Discuss Ezekiel 36 Page 3

Hi Jema,

I may be different, but in my understanding of the Bible, I approach scripture simply and do not try to complicate things with preconceived ideas and let the Bible and the Holy Spirit do the interpretation. To me, a symbol will have a non-symbolic meaning.

A symbol represents something real, a real person, a real thing, or a historical event. When I read, I understand words in a literal sense first, then in a figurative or spiritual sense if the literal doesn't make sense.

Are the Christians now the Israel of God? Have the promises to Israel and the church merged into one common heritage? If so that brings up.

Will the promise of the land given to Abraham's seed, Isaac then Jacob be fulfilled? Isaiah 11:11-12 Ezekiel 37:21-25 Jeremiah 24:5-6 Ezekiel 34:11-12 Ezekiel 36:24-26 Hosea 3:4-5 Micah 4:6-7 Zechariah 13:8-9

Will Jesus the Messiah return and reign on the earth, with a rod of iron? Isaiah 2:1-4 Isaiah 11:1-4 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:14 Zechariah 14:1-4 Jeremiah 3:17 Revelation 2:26-27 Revelation 11:15 Revelation 12:5 Revelation 19:11-21.

Will there be a literal millennium during which Satan will not deceive the nations and Christ will reign on earth? Revelation 20:1-6 2 Timothy 2:11-12 Isaiah 2:2-4 Isaiah 11:5-16 Isaiah 65:19-25 Isaiah 51:4-5 Zechariah 14:16-21 Micah 4:1-4 Psalms 46:7-11 Matthew 19:28.

To me there are too many scriptures that are showing God has not replaced Israel with the Church. We see in Romans 11:24-27 a day when God will again turn to Israel, the day Jesus returns. Forgive me if some of the scriptures do not fit.

God bless,

RLW

Brother SSpencer;

I quoted scripture, is scripture a false witness, the name at the top of the page is not the one speaking.

Is scripture deception, or is the carnal mind the one that deceives.

John 16:8 And when he (the spirit of truth) is come, he will reprove the world of SIN

Do you believe he (the spirit of truth) will reprove THE WORLD of SIN?

You know he has eternity, is that long enough to reprove the world of sin?

If you believe man has to accept God's gift of his own self, then your don't really believe we are saved by grace and not works of ourself.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit IN YOU and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statues, and ye will keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

One of his statutes is to BELIEVE his words, Now, is he CAUSING you to believe, or is you carnal mind rebelling against his word.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

These are not my words.

Is it sin not to believe his words, is he going to REPROVE the WORLD of SIN?

God Bless you, my brother in Christ.

Gigi.

You stated.

Yes, God will do this for Israel. ( We do not know exactly when He will do this, perhaps pre-tribulation or earlier or perhaps just after the tribulations starts. We just don't know. But dispensationalist have pigeon holed this into their system in ways that are not explicitly stated in Scripture as to when this will happen.

You seem to be unsure of your viewpoint but rebuke the dispensational viewpoint.

I said in my earlier posts it's after the tribulation and wrath of the Lord.

Here's one of many reasons why.

We know it's not before the Tribulation because the verses I mentioned.

Ezekiel 36:30. And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, THAT YE SHALL RECEIVE NO MORE ( REPROACH ) OF FAMINE AMONG THE HEATHEN.

The Antichrist is going to bring REPROACH

AND AN IDOL! Ezekiel 36:25.

HERE'S WHERE ASSESSMENT GETS CONFUSING.

In your second statement you stated.

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As far as Ezekiel,

This is a figurative prophecy of God regathering all of Israel (Both houses) by resurrecting them to life when Jesus returns after the Tribulation is over. Or perhaps figuratively re-establishing Israel to the land that they have long been away from...( AND WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT WILL BE (the second option.)

Now I know you say the Millennium is in heaven, but your second opinion you suggest the restoration of Israel is after the tribulation here on earth.

Do you separate the restoration of Israel from the Millennium?

Earlier in my replies I stated to you the Millennium is here on earth pointing you to Revelation 20:6-8.

What makes this dispensational is Jeremiah says God is going to do something in a NEW WAY. ( In terms of Knowledge and virteous practice.) Jeremiah 31:33-34.

That's what I believe. .

God bless.

Gigi.

Continued.

Ezekiel 36:24-32.

For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.

And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

NOTICE VERSE 32.

Vs 32. Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

NOW REWIND A FEW VERSES AND READ Ezekiel 36:21-23.

WAS THIS FULFILLED IN THE NEWTESTAMENT? NO! ISRAEL COMMITTED ABOMINATIONS IN THE OT ON INTO THE NT AND STILL DOING IT TODAY.

WILL GOD FULFILL HIS UNCONDITIONAL COVENANT? YES.

WHEN? IN THE MILLENNIUM!

DID YOU NOTICE THE LOCATION THIS COVENANT WILL BE FULFILLED? EARTH.

( THAT IS DISPENSATIONALISM.)

We take those promises literal.

One of the worst and most dangerous heresies is to call God a liar and subscribe to replacement theology.

Romans 11:25-26. is DISPENSATIONALISM.

God bless.

Cathy,

I don't know what your doubt is. But if you are struggling with your relationship with God and whether or not God has saved you, that is NOT a bad place to be. It could be a very health place to be.

First and foremost, spend time reading the Bible knowing that when you do, you are sitting at the feet of God Himself, listening to God as He speaks to you through His Word. Do not worry if you do not understand much of what you are reading. You will be in the environment where God saves and leads us into Truth.

You might read the Book of Jonah which is God's account of how He saved many of the Ninevites. Nineveh was the capital of Assyria, a very wicked nation with essentially no knowledge at all of the Word of God. But as Jonah preached to them and declared that God would destroy them in 40 days, they humbled themselves recognizing that they were in deep and terrible trouble with God, and they cried to God for Mercy that maybe God would repent and not destroy them, in other words that God might save them. And we see that God did save 120,000 of them because He was all the time drawing them and causing them to come to Him with no righteousness in themselves what so ever. In other words, God must do all the work in saving us. And God does not save us based on what we know about the Bible nor because of anything we do. As the Hymn goes "nothing in my hands I bring, only to thy Cross I cling". Our trust must be in Christ ALONE and the work that He has done in saving any one of us. Christ came to save sinners deserving of His Wrath; not people who think they are worthy in any sense.

You might also read Ezekiel 36:24-31 which is a beautiful picture of Salvation with God doing all of the Work to Save us.

Most importantly, spend time reading the Word of God, the Bible, recognizing that the Bible ALONE and its ENTIRITY is the WORD OF GOD and is the authority for our life.

May God richly bless you.

Virgil Birkenfeld:

PROPHECY:

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep MY JUDGEMENTS, and DO THEM.

You DIED with Christ, YOU WERE RAISED with Christ, this is the POWER OF THE RESURRECTION.

You are now the BODY of Christ, everything you say, will to do, or do is CAUSED by the spirit of TRUTH and LIFE WITHIN YOU.

Very FEW BELIEVE God's word.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (spirit) which WORKETH IN YOU, both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in you .....

Matthew 7:14 ...narrow is THE WAY .....FEW there be that FIND IT ....

John 14:6 ....I AM THE WAY .......

1 Corinthians 12:27 ...Ye are the BODY OF CHRIST .....

FEW BELIEVE God's word.

Psalms 82:6 I (God himself) HAVE SAID, ye are gods, the children of the most high.

Your the dwelling place of GOD, your are doing the very will of God 24/7.

The question is? Do you believe God's word?

God Bless YOU, as our Father brings us to TRUTH.

Brother Chris:

Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall burn with fire a THIRD PART (the called out) in the misdst of THE CITY, when the days of the SIEGE are FULFILLED

Chris you have to go back to Ezekiel chapter 4 to understand the SIEGE of Jerusalem, it's what made all the houses desolate, there was no activity of the Holy Spirit for 430 years.

Then Jesus came to Jerusalem, but they didn't understand, there houses (we are the house of Christ) were left unto them desolate, void of any understanding of the scriptures, because there was no spirit to interpret the scriptures for them, NO ONE UNDERSTOOD until PENECOSTE and the Spirit was poured out, now Jerusalem can understand, but it is not the OLD, it's the NEW JERUSALEM, the mother of us all.

Ezekiel 5:1-5 is talking about those that were chosen to have the Spirit CAUSE THEM ( Ezekiel 36:27) to come to the truth: Christ is calling out a priesthood of the house of JUDAH ( Zechariah 12:7) to JUDGE all those that will be RAISED at the second resurrection.

Ezekiel 5: ....thereof shall a fire COME FORTH into all the house of Israel ....

Prophecy can be inside actual historical events.

God Bless YOU!

Sammi:

May I add to the truths Alex has given you.

Christ said flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God, you must be born again.

This birth can not take place till this body of flesh dies, we can only come to truth of what God is going to fulfil.

Christ said I am the way, the truth, and the LIFE, the LIFE in you is CHRIST, man will not die to themselves and believe this truth.

You are the BODY OF CHRIST.

Alex quoted you Revelation, he who lives by the sword, the sword is THE WORD OF GOD, Christ the WORD, the SEED is the WORD OF GOD, Christ is the SEED, the SEED is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, this is the LIFE in YOU, so he who lives by the sword must died by the sword, the WORD has to destroy deceptions, lies and falsehoods, all of these are born of Satan, your carnal mind.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust (flesh and bone body) return to the dust it was, and the spirit shall return unto God that gave it ----your are BORN AGAIN.

You are the BODY OF CHRIST, you do what the spirit causes you to do, Ezekiel 36:27, Philippians 2:13, your the body, the spirit of Christ (the SEED) is the LIFE.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God (has the mind of Christ) doeth not commit sin (the body only does what the spirit of Christ causes it to do, 24/7); for his SEED (truth and life); remaineth in him (his body): and he cannot sin (thy will be done), because he is born of God.

Jeremiah 51:19:24, Isaiah 41:15 ----God always uses man to do HIS WORK, Christ said of myself I can do nothing, he knew he was the body of the Father, he could only do what the spirit of the Father caused him to do, he said we can do nothing without him, we are only the body that the spirit of Christ uses to perform all his pleasure.

Can you be angry and not sin? Christ was continually anger with the Pharisees, yet he was without sin, why, because he was only doing what the spirit caused him to do.

God Bless You as we are driven to truth.

Daniel 2:34 shows how the stone will crush all world empires (symbolized by the various metals in the human figure from Nebuchadnezzar's dream). This shows the stone as symbolic of Christ; THE Rock who will come back and vanquish His enemies and grind them to powder (see Malachi 4:3). Those who are stubborn will be broken suddenly; and without remedy. ( Prov. 6:15).

We are to have a broken and contrite spirit ( Psalm 51:17). That is "falling on the rock". Again; those who would not have Him rule over them will be killed ( Luke 19:27). Thence; our rebellion needs to be broken and our old selves made dead through a new heart replacing a stony one ( Ezekiel 36:26). This allows purification and refining through sanctification whereas a stone remains hardened and is thus crushed to powder. This will be the fate of an individual as well as a nation (or empire) as a whole that is left behind in the Tribulation ultimately; those "earth dwellers" used in Revelation 3:10 and apparently in 8 other verses in that book. That shows where the heart of men as well as their physical presence is if they are "not written in the Book of Life" ( Rev. 13:8) and the end result is to worship the final "Beast" who is an amalgamation of the previous 4 empires (Babylon; Greece; Persia and Rome). This also is shown in a prototype with the image in Daniel 3 which was commanded to be worshipped.

Hi Tim.

Agape!

Matthew 22:38-40. This is the first and great commandment.

And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt LOVE thy neighbour as thyself.

ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.

And only one way this is done.

Ezekiel 36:26-27. A new heart also will I give you, and ( a new spirit will I put within you:) and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and ( I will give you an heart of flesh.)

AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU,

(( AND CAUSE YOU )) TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, AND YE SHALL KEEP MY JUDGMENTS, AND DO THEM.

This is what separate Agape from the other loves you mentioned. .

Thou WILL love the Lord and thy neighbour.

God bless.

Hi Prosperity.

The law was given to Israel but let's set that aside.

You are right in that you say, "The Commandments must be kept" Israel couldn't obtain salvation thru the keeping of the law and neither can we.

Christ came to free us from the curse of the law, that doesn't mean he did away with The Law.

In the old covenant "under the law" there was sacrifices made for sin. Those sacrifices pointed ahead to the only sacrifice that could take away sin AND regenerate the believer by the Spirit. Hebrews 10:3-10.

The old covenant had no power over the incurable heart. The new covenant humbled the sinner and pointed him in the right direction. "CHRIST" Ezekiel 36:26-27. Jeremiah 31:31-33.

The old covenant slew us and is called the ministration of death. Romans 7:5-11. 2 Corinthians 3:6-14.

The new covenant gave mercy. Why mercy? Because no one could keep the law, and no one is able to do so today. Putting ourselves in chains and grinding our teeth while restraining from sin isn't keeping the law. Galatians 2:21.

The commandments given didn't say keep the commandments as best you can.

You're breaking the law in your heart You're still a sinner. There's no sanctification. Christ came to give new birth and a new heart accompanied with mercy and grace.

The second you broke any one of them you were forever lost if there was no sacrifice that could take away sin. Hebrews 10:1-5.

It was the sacrifices that pointed to Christ that made atonement for those sins.

Israel having God in their midst with all the providence showed the world that the heart of man is incurably wicked.

The law showed that there was a need of a savior that could regenerate the believer and give a new heart and life.

The commandments are Holy and was given to a nation that was set apart to show man with God in their midst was nothing like God being "IN" them.

That's what's available today.

Read Galatians 3:10-26.

Perhaps more on this later this weekend God bless."

Psalm 35; once again describes the state of David in distress; trusting God to defend him as well as encouraging those who support his righteous cause (v. 27). Once again; the interplay of the prophetic is so intertwined with David's own experiences and that of the Messiah that it is hard to find examples where one or another can definitively be extricated from the dialogue.

We find examples such as verse 11 discussing false witnesses; and verses 16 through 18 about "hypocritical mockers" and particularly verse 17 about rescuing the "darling" from the lions is definitely directed toward Christ at the crucifixion as seen in Psalm 22:20.

The "Aha, aha" theme is seen in Psalm 40 and 70; and also Ezekiel 36:2 in regard to the capture of the ancient heights from the north in the last days (likely the Golan Heights area).

Whether with an individual or the nation of Israel; God will bring victory for the remnant who are truly faithful according to His many promises. Going back to earlier in the Psalm in verses 5 to 6 we see how the angel of the Lord persecutes the wicked leading them to destruction. We see in 1 Chronicles 21 how an angel was sent to cause wholesale destruction. We do well to heed to the fact that God is in charge of all things; and in a sense creates good and evil for His purposes. Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6 discuss these things; calamity is under God's liimitations. Let us be under chastisement not judgment; and let us fall on the Rock rather than being crushed by it! ( Matt. 21:44).

I would encourage you to knee down and repent your sins before the lord, the sins of jealously the sins of anger and ask God to show you any hidden sins in your life and repent anything he will show you

I want you to understand the wicked have no rest because they have unrepeated sins hence they try all they can to find rest

and ask God to remove this spirit of anger in your heart.

as it is written

Isaiah 57:20

20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.

21 There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Read this word

Psalms 18:6

In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.

Pray for an

Ezekiel 36:26

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Make your request known him to his God is faithful

Chuck:

This is one of the hardest things for man to grasp.

Christ is the body of his Father and his God. Christ said of myself I can do nothing, It is his Father, the life of Christ, that CAUSES Christ to do the Father's WILL.

When Christ was crucified he commended his LIFE back to his Father, and Christ's body died because the Life of the Father departed from it.

His BODY was all mankind, sinful flesh, it died, sinful flesh died on that cross, CHRIST'S body arose because the Father put his life back into Christ, all mankind arose, as a new creation, we are the body of Christ, Christ is the LIFE IN US, we do what the life of Christ CAUSES us to do.

Philippians 2:13 For it God (Christ in us) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements, and do them.

Jeremiah 51:20 Thou (my body) art my battle axe and weapons of war, for with thee (my body) will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee (my body) will I destroy the kingdoms.

Revelation 2:26 He that overcometh (deception) and keepeth MY WORKS unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations.

If you understand this, then Philippians 4:13-19 will make more sense to you.

God Bless You!

Deborah:

Since you are saved and a born again Christian, what are you saved from?

Is Christ not the passover lamb of God?

Does not death pass over those covered by the blood?

John 5:24 ....he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath EVERLASTING LIFE, and shall not come into condemnation, but is (present tense) passed from death into Life.

John 8:51 ......if a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Lukewarm Christians don't keep his sayings, his words.

Have you come to truth of what being born again is?

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the life in you) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and you shall keep my JUDGEMENTS, and do them.

John 16:8 And when he is come (Christ in you, the new creation) he will will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of JUDGEMENT.

John 16:11 Of JUDGEMENT because the prince of this world (lies and deception in you) is JUDGED.

Matthew 12:28 But if I (Christ in you) by the Spirit of God, cast out devils (lies and deception) the the kingdom of God has come unto you.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO (his statutes and his judgements) his good pleasure.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN OR GOD (truth and life) doth not commit sin (It's Christ in you working both TO WILL and TO DO his statutes and his Judgements)

Most Christians want walk in this truth and that makes them lukewarm.

God bless you.

I think what is missing in all of this theological discussion is the personal role the Spirit of God plays with an individual believer.

1 Corinthians 3:16 states that we are the Temple of God now. Thus; as Colossians 2:9 states the "fullness of the Godhead bodily" showed how Christ was fully God and fully man; but also he had the "Spirit without measure". ( John 3:34). We as believers in the N.T. times since Christ's atonement go immediately to heaven after death (see Hebrews 9:27; 2 Cor. 5:8). We are "sealed with the Spirit" ( Eph. 1:13-14) from the moment we are saved (that is TRULY saved); hence the Spirit dwells in us (see John 14:23).

We can look at the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) as the pneuma in some extent; or what is breathed into us from above much as the soul of man had life given to it when we are born the first time. God therefore rules over all and determines times and seasons; Christ is the 2nd member of the "Godhead" hence in accordance with God's plan became the sin offering for our redemption and thus was "given" all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18-20).

When He humbled Himself a man; he trusted totally in the Spirit to do His miracles as an example for us to do the same. Clearly; there were certain things which are at least primarily limited to the Apostolic era. Nonetheless; we are told to "bear fruits worthy (meet) of repentance ( Matt. 3:8 and elsewhere). There are characteristics of a Spirit filled life; and also various gifts or manifestations given by God to every believer (see 1 Cor. 12). PRIMARILY; the Spirit of Christ brings forth to convict the world of "sin; righteousness and judgment to come." ( John 16:8-11). We know we are one of His children if we have a new heart ( Ezekiel 36:26); and of course if we trust God; obey Him and obey Him to the best of our ability. We desire God and the Spirit will convict us (he chastises all He loves). ( Heb. 12:6 etc).

I pray that you have a personal experience with the Lord

Concluding thoughts continued in Rev. 22

Therefore; many may be genuinely shocked when the Lord says that He never knew them and they ask for entrance into heaven. ( Matt. 7:21). Sadly; many never will know the depths of their own depravity until they enter hell; surely then they will know how helpless they are; although there will be no love and appreciation for a Holy God. The biggest message I can see here is that we must in this life be saved; as well as love God. Mankind in his natural state can fear God but cannot love Him; nor Christ who the Father sent to die in our place. All believers are called to share in the sufferings of Christ; and to bear their own cross daily. ( Romans 8:17; Matt. 16:24). Only believers can understand being part of the Body of Christ and fellowship of the saints. ( 1 John 1:3 and many other passages). We must die to ourselves daily ( Galatians 2:20). This involves selfless acts; but also has to have a heart change ( Ezekiel 36:26). To be drawn to the light is the state of those who He has called to be His children and chosen ( John 3:21).

As my last commentary stated; we are not to worry about whether we are elected by God; at least as some curiousity or intellectual concept. Our responsibility is ultimately ours to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5). His Spirit communes with our spirit to show us if we are of God ( Romans 8:16).

Verses 18 through 19 reminds us of the seriousness of God's Word. No other religions or other writings that change the Word of God or create another method of salvation; another Christ etc. are to be tolerated (See Galatians 1:8). Such a reverent fear of God's Word today is sorely lacking. Many probably don't believe these things are really going to be this bad; sadly a former Pastor of mine used to have these thoughts when reading the Book of Isaiah. If the rich man in hell is any example; no one there will be grateful for our lackluster witness here now.

Hi Fred.

You stated "The apostles chosen, were favored because of their faith , looking for the Messiah, this is the heart that Jesus wants!"

I have to disagree.

The faith they needed was faith in what Christ done on the cross.

"It hadn't happened yet". They all looked for their Messiah but didn't understand what was to come. (The Church and salvation by the death and resurrection of Christ )

Thus was a stumblingblock for them and this is what John the baptist ministry was all about. Baptism of repentance.

They was still under the old covenant, Christ hadn't died to bring in the new covenant. Hebrews 9:15.

You stated "this is the heart that Jesus wants!,

No man's heart is right until the Lord gives him a new heart.

Jeremiah 17:9

Ezekiel 36:26.

The Cornerstone wasn't laid yet, so the foundation couldn't be laid and there was nothing to build on and there was nothing to build with until after Christ rose and they were inpowered.

What was the duties before the resurrection? They tried following him but couldn't.

Paul was seeking to kill Christians until he was converted.

BUT!! When they were filled they had strength and died a mortars death.

Here's they're duties before the resurrection. John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

They were chosen to be Apostles but the didn't function as an Apostles until They were filled with the Holyspirit.

God bless.

John 3:7, John 3:15-21, 1Peter 1:23, John 3:5-8, 2Corinthians 5:17, Ezekiel 36:26, Galatians 6:15, Ephesians 4:24, Luke 9:23, Matthew 16:24,

1Corinthians 6:9-11,

Hopefully these are helpful

Further thoughts on Revelation 17

The beginning of the chapter in verses 1-5 has been defined traditinally by many Reformers in particular as the Roman Catholic church. There is much in the color of the robes and ornate processions and the overall grandeur of Vatican City which certainly at least partially defines this apostate religion. However; we need to see the future and final fulfillment; and realistically assess the whole ecumenical movement in the last 20 years or so to realize that much of what were bastions of the faith in mainline churches such as Presbyterian; Baptist; and Methodist congregations are just as far gone; and often have traditions very similar to this. This would encompass certain elements of the Greek Orthodox and probably Coptic churches as well.

There is no reason to exclude the mystical branches of Islam (who are considered apostate by other Muslims). There is much eastern occultic influence among those who call themselves Jews today; many of which follow a cultural type of religion; and/or steeped in the Talmud which really had its roots with some of the Parasitical doctrines as well as other gnostic teachings which crept into both Jewish and Christian circles since the time of Christ.

Verse 8 is revealing because not only could it refer to the apparent resurrection of Antichrist in Zechariah 11:17 but also could refer to the appearance of Satan at the end of the Millennium period after being hidden in the bottomless pit the whole 1000 years. In either case; unregenerate men not in the Book of Life still will be drawn into the rebellion. Time simply doesn't change a man's heart; only a supernatural change (see Ezekiel 36:26). May we see that was OUR state when we once were enemies of God ( Romans 5:10) and live changed lives accordingly; fearing God and testing to see if we are inthe faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5).

Agape.

Please Lord help Cesar by opening open up opportunities to have a deeper relationship with you and to be a better dad. Please Holy Spirit guide Cesar away from the foothold of the devil with this addiction and affections I pray in the name of Jesus Christ!!

Please consider reflecting on these Bible scriptures: Psalms 37, Psalms 91, Jeremiah 29:11-13, Ezekiel 36:26-27, Isaiah 43:2, I Corinthians 10: 13-14.

Nelson:

Your not understanding the truth of God's word.

The blood of Christ COVERS ALL SIN.



John 16:8 And when he (the Holy Spirit) is COME (he came at Pentecost) he will reprove the world of sin ....

John 16:9 Of SIN; because they BELIEVE NOT ON ME (truth);

No knowledge of God's word.

Zechariah 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua (Christ in you) the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD; and SATAN (unbelief, deception) standing at his (Christ's) right hand TO RESIST HIM (TRUTH).

Christ is now THE LIFE in you.

You; Nelson (sinful flesh), died on the cross of Christ.

The LIFE now IN YOU is the LIFE OF CHRIST.

Christ cannot sin: your his body, the body ONLY DOES what the LIFE causes it TO DO.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN of GOD doth not commit sin (because the new birth in you is CHRIST); for HIS SEED (the Holy Spirit) remaineth in HIM (the new creation in Christ Jesus): he CANNOT SIN, because he is born of God.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put MY SPIRIT (GOD) within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and you shall keep my JUDGEMENTS, and DO THEM.

Few find the WAY:

Matthew 7:14 ...narrow is the WAY, which leadeth unto LIFE, and Few there be that find it.

Nelson; walk in the TRUTH and FREEDOM of Christ's words.

God Bless YOU, his (Christ's) BODY.

All people, Jew or Gentile, that have been circumcised in their hearts; that BELIEVE on Jesus for Salvation.

" Ezekiel 36:26 - A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Psalms 51:10 - Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me."

Book of John 3, also 1-2-3 John at the back of the Bible.

It has nothing to do with religions. It has everything to do with relationship and obedience to God.

According to Christ; "His sheep hear His voice." ( John 10:27). 2 Tim. 2:24-26 indicate that repentance indeed is a gift from God.

The basic premise is that we are all "children of wrath" by nature under condemnation apart from Christ. ( Eph. 2:3). If we cannot understand that man's heart is estranged from God; and that at best we try to avoid the consequences of sin rather than have any true remorse for offending a Holy; righteous and just God then we simply are living out a works based theology. Titus 1:15 shows further how our best actions are contaminated and defiled.

Human love only shows true affection for those who love us ( Matthew 5:46-48). To love those who "despitefully use us" ( Matthew 5:44) takes a change of heart; a Divine intervention and infusion of the Holy Spirit again which is given by God ( Ezekiel 36:26).

From OUR perspective we see ourselves drawn to the one from all eternity who created all things. ( Ecclesiastes 3:11). This verse shows again how even THIS is instigated in man's conscience by God. We need to realize that there is a process involved; as the parable of the seed and the sowers indicates. The seed from God (again planted on His initiative) is introduced; and ultimately must progress until "fruit is produced" (see also Matthew 3:8). TRUE repentance will overcome temptations that the Lord uses to prune us; as He "chastises all those He loves" ( Heb. 12:6; etc). God therefore initiates salvation; and the whole sanctification process ultimately leading to glorification ( Romans 8:17).

When we are saved; we have new desires to serve God and rejoice in the thought of service to Him now and in eternity. We begin a process of mortification of the deeds of the flesh ( Romans 8:13). From our perspective; we need to accept the truth about ourselves and our utter hopelessness apart from Christ in our own strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom ) Proverbs 9; Psalm 111; etc). Jeremiah 32:40 shows God gives that

Romans 8 is how the born again experience happens: by the law(governing of the Spirit of Life). There is nothing that I am aware of in Roman 8 that refers to the blood. Study the verse you quoted "there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh by after the Spirit". I would think that returning to immoral sin is walking after the flesh. Ponder this simple verse. Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." If we miss the transition from Romans 7 (the old life) to Romans 8 (the new life) we have missed the meaning and goal of the Bible. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Isaiah 30:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a shame, and also a reproach.

2 Samuel 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And the people gat them by stealth that day into the city, as people being ashamed steal away when they flee in battle.

Hebrews 2:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Isaiah 33:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits.

1 John 2:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

Micah 3:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.

Ezekiel 36:32 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

Hebrews 11:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

Genesis 2:25 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Job 6:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

They were confounded because they had hoped; they came thither, and were ashamed.

Isaiah 20:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And they shall be afraid and ashamed of Ethiopia their expectation, and of Egypt their glory.

Trusting Jesus Today:

Those things you SEEK.

Knowing the WILL of God answers what YOU SEEK.

Matthew 6:10 Thy Kingdom come. Thy WILL BE DONE.

Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ......Christ in you .....

1 John 5:11 This is the record, that God hath GIVEN TO US ETERNAL LIFE, and THIS LIFE is his SON (the Holy Ghost).

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you, eternal LIFE) that WORKETH IN YOU (you are his body and he is the LIFE, not you, him) both TO WILL and TO DO his (the LIFE's) good pleasure.

John 14:6 ....I am truth and life ....

Christ himself, in the form of the Holy Ghost, THE SEED of God, is the Life in YOU, causing you HIS BODY to Do his good pleasure.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God (truth and life) doth not commit sin, for HIS SEED remaineth in him (you, his body), and he (you, his body) cannot sin, because he (you, his body) is born of God.

Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come (it's HERE, Christ in you), thy will be done.

Peace has arrived.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit (Christ's LIFE) in you, and CAUSE you (my body) to walk in my statutes, and to keep my commandments and DO THEM.

Hebrews 4:10 For he (the body of Christ) that has entered into MY REST (God's Kingdom, Christ's Life)) has CEASED from his OWN WORKS .....

God Bless You.

Dgjot: YOU ARE SAVED BECAUSE YOU ARE CHOSEN, God says he CHOOSES YOU!

You came to God because GOD CAUSED you to come to him.

John 12:32 If I be lifted up, I WILL draw ALL MEN to me.

You BELIEVE because God CAUSES you to BELIEVE.

Philippians 1:29 For unto you IT IS GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to SUFFER for his sake.

Everything that has happen in you life has been for A PURPOSE, That we come to TRUTH that ALL WORKS are of GOD, we are just the vessel.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (his life) that worketh in you (the body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

John 14:6 ....I am the LIFE ......

Rejoice in the past, it's CAUSING you to be conformed to the IMAGE OF GOD (the Divine Nature).

Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put MY SPIRIT (LIFE) in you and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and to keep my judgements and DO THEM.

Matthew 6:10 Thy will be done .....

Everything in your past (as well as the future) is God's will, you are just now coming TO KNOWLEDGE, that GOD KNOW whats best for HIS BODY.

2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are GIVEN TO US exceedingly great and precious PROMISES: that by these you might be PARTAKERS of the DIVINE NATURE ......

God Bless You!

Hi Giannis.

I had the feeling early on we had more we agree on than what we disagree on.

It's difficult to nail down replacement theology these days because they seem to keep evolving. Some say Israel rejected their Messiah so they blew it. One would say well what about the promises to restore Israel during and after the tribulation on into the Millennium. While noting many verses like Ezekiel 36:32-33.

In order to harmonize their theology they spiritualize everything they can't explain.

Some has went off the charts saying there is no hell, there is no Millennium, Everyone is going to be refined by fire and go to paradise.

You and I are going to be impregnated and have a little baby Jesus.

I use these absurd examples of what is literally recently being said to warn of the danger of using poor hermeneutics. It renders Gods promises and the work on the cross as worthless. The sacrifice of Christ was meaningless if there's nothing to be saved from. This deception is demonic!

Here's a precise article:

Replacement theology teaches that the church is the replacement for Israel and that the many promises made to Israel in the Bible are fulfilled in the Christian church, not in Israel. The prophecies in Scripture concerning the blessing and restoration of Israel to the Promised Land are spiritualized or allegorized into promises of God's blessing for the church. Major problems exist with this view, such as the continuing existence of the Jewish people throughout the centuries and especially with the revival of the modern state of Israel. If Israel has been condemned by God and there is no future for the Jewish nation, how do we explain the supernatural survival of the Jewish people over the past 2,000 years despite the many attempts to destroy them? How do we explain why and how Israel reappeared as a nation in the 20th century after not existing for 1,900 years?

Galatians 1:8-9.

God bless.

Hi Giannis.

Part 2.

"Notice the Highlights."

And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE LORD, AND ARE GONE FORTH OUT OF HIS LAND.

BUT I HAD PITY FOR MINE HOLY NAME, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I DO NOT THIS FOR YOUR SAKES,

( O HOUSE OF ISRAEL, )BUT FOR MINE HOLY NAME'S SAKE, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

AND I WILL SANCTIFY MY GREAT NAME, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

A NEW HEART ALSO WILL I GIVE YOU, AND A NEW SPIRIT WILL I PUT WITHIN YOU: and

(( I WILL TAKE AWAY THE STONY HEART OUT OF YOUR FLESH, AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN HEART OF FLESH.

AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Ezekiel 36:19-28.

A new heart has been given to the Church, BUT NOT TO THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. That's the Nation, Paul's kinsman in the flesh.

Amos 9:-914.

and

And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

Amos 9:15.

They've been moved out of the land SINCE Joshua brought them in!!

See part 3.