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The Lord Jesus Christ prayed in John 17 that his disciples would be one even as He and the Father are One. When I see anyone who loves Jesus Christ, I will treat him/her as a brother/sister in Christ. By this shall all men know you are my disciples if you have love one to another, He said. Tragically, even among those of like minded theology have divisions among them, and the Apostle Paul said such divisions are the result of carnality within the church. Those who want the pre-eminence lord it over those who either wish to remain nuetral, or those with whom they disagree. If we read the 17th chapter of John, we can't ignore our Savior's impassioned plea for the Father to give us certain advantages that stem from His love. Life is too short, Jesus Christ will judge everyone, and He only left one commission for the body of believers, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel, making disciples, commanding them to observe what I have commanded you: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.

If we do get angry with our brother or sister we should forgive as our father has forgiven us which is in heaven.

Blessings my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. Such a powerful sentence, yet direct and to the point; here is my understanding to what Paul is telling the Ephesians and to everyone that reads. “Be ye angry” is not alone in context here, and is not referring to the demonstration of anger towards others. Paul says, “Be ye angry, and sin not”, a single phrase referring that the individual being their own worst critic, because we are all sinners.
Second part: “let not the sun go down upon your wrath” refers to; as we realize we have sinned and are “angry” at our lack of self control, we need to ask God for forgiveness and be at peace with it. “let not the sun go down upon your wrath” It is important the moment we realize we have sinned that we ask God for forgiveness and not put it off for another time.

This scripture shows that as humans we will get angry, but how we handle that anger makes a difference of whether we commit a sin. We have to have self-control and not have uncontrolled anger. We should take time to remove ourselves from the situation and take the matter to God in prayer.

My Comment is a response to Joel's comment on Ephesians Chapter 4, Verse 11. I don't actually know, myself, but I think There's Some More Criteria on being at least an Overseer, and on being a Bishop of a Church in either 1 or 2 Timothy, and I think anyone wanting to be a Pastor, could learn from That. But like I say, I don't really know. There are Ways you can test whether or not you're in the Faith in 1 or 2 Corinthians, 1 and 2 and maybe 3 John as well, cause I know you've got to be in the Faith to be a Pastor. I'm more familiar with God's Calling on my life to be an Evangelist. God just started Telling me to tell strangers on the street that Jesus Loves them when I was 17, and that He was going to Train me to Hear His Voice. And I later got some training and human qualifications to be an Evangelist, much of this training though, I don't remember. I only remember What God Taught me. We have an Anointing, Which is not a lie, but the Truth, and have no need of any [human] teaching us, according to the Bible Somewhere. Once you figure out Knowing God's Voice, It should be easier to know whether or not, God has Called you to be a Pastor, or for That Matter, Anything Else. I hope This Helps.

We must be made new in our minds. We can't just patch up our old mental attitude, but we have to put on a new one. This involves reading God's Word, praying to God for His holy spirit, and then putting forth the effort to be made new in the spirit of our mind or our dominant mental attitude.

This verse shows how important it is to watch what we say. People say so many vulgar and filthy things today and they completely disregard this scripture. This shows that God judges us not only for what we do but also for what we say.

walking in self-righteousness and not in God's righteousness caused them to have their hearts and minds darkened. This leads to a reprobate mind if not repented of in sincerity and truth.

Sometimes it can be difficult to forgive, that why we have to pray for help to achieve this.

ephesians 4:26 is saying to me i can be angry at sins in a person but not at the person,and if i have a wrath with someone, i must confess my sins to that person before i go to sleep, because tomorrow is not promise, jesus may return while i am a sleep! i dont want that to happen.

To be very honest, I struggled with this particular chapter at first. Only because I'm always a person who wants to negotiate. I didn't like the first part of this chapter, but the second part I could do...lol; it was just a process. By the grace of GOD I'll get it together.

All scriptures are inspired by God, and is good for teaching for those that believe.Amen

Am happy for a good job done,may GOD bless you much that i can read my bible wherever i am and find anything i want to know.

This comment is fro Actavius; I want to help you with as much as possible according to scripture please read Leviticus 19:28 which discourages this practice. God is the same yesterday and forever, ask the Holy Spirit help you understand His word. I recently commented on this subject, and encouraged all who have made this mistake to not allow the Devil to trip you into thinking just because you made this mistake in your past to keep you from giving your life over to Jesus because you did not know what God's word said about it. This is a forgivable sin, and God winks at our ignorance when we are void of the truth. But you see that's why its important to read your Bible; and ask God to lead you to a Church that teaches the whole truth about God's word. There are some out there. Read ( Psalm 32:8-9) and also read ( Acts 17:24-30) ( Ephesians 4:11-14) and finally ( I Corinthians 6:17-20) and you will find out that your body belongs to God, and if he wanted you to have a tattoo he would have given you a birth mark (Smile) Love You with the Love Christ Jesus!! You shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Make You Free!! Amen!

COMMENT ON EPH 4;13 Till we all come to the Unity of Faith.- Let Understand that in Eph 4;5 The Bible speaks of one Faith. Jude, in Jude 1;3, he says he we should earenstly contend for the faith which was once delivered to the saints, which p***ed through the process from prophecies to do***entation that is from part to perfect 1cor 13 ;8-13. to the hand of every Christain to read, study and understand Eph 3,3-5 under the guidiance of The Evangelist, Teachers and Pastors who preceed Apostles and Prophets that did the do***entation under the guidiance of The Holy Spirit, Eph4;11-12. Thus the "Unity of Faith" is within us now to enable us attain the full Knowledge of the Son of God unto a Perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ "according to God's standard as revaled in the Scripture. 2Peter 1;3 That we hanceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of men,and cunning craftiness where by they lie in wait to deceive Eph 4; 14.

In 1 Peter 3:9 it states that the Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. When you once repent having a sorrow and a contrite spirit for the sins that you have committed, then the Lord will give you an understanding of his word, once you have done first thing first. You have to study to show yourself approved, and you cannot get away from water baptism. In Ephesians 4:4, the word clearly states one lord, one faith, one baptism. If Jesus was baptized, then we surely need it; no other men than Jesus and John were born with the holy ghost.

I want to say Tonia's accusation to the trinity as a false doctrine is out of this world wrong, if she wants to use biblical proof then she should look at other texts like Matthew 28:19... Jesus says to baptize in the name of the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. or 2Corinthians 13:14, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1Peter 1:2,but there is one thing i want you to do... actually to anybody is to read it for yourself... you do not know if i could be lying to you, know i would never lie on something as serious as this. another thing is i am not criticising you for your thoughts, i just want you to know the truth

I love the book of Ephesians, it is a great book of what, and how God wants us to be. and what Christ sacrificed for us. to know the truth of his word.

I love this whole book. So many instructions on how to live and be acceptable to God. So easily understandable and precise.

Neither give place to the devil.
A popular conception of the Devil originated during the middle ages as a red demon with a pitch fork, cloven footed and horned. But this is not at all the Bible description. The Bible says “that Satan himself is transformed as an angel of light.” 2 Corinthians 11:14.

The Devil will never walk up to you and say Hi I am the Devil. I am out to destroy you. He does it in a more settle way. He does not throw spears, he throws darts. Takes you a while to realize that you have been hit.
He causes us to walk in darkness, and we don’t even know it. He does not turn off all the lights at first.

What we must not loose sight of is that Satan although a fallen angel is still an angel, a rebel angel. Satan’s fall did not deprive him of his angel nature, or his original beauty, only his character changed.

1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.”
The silliness of this world some people are continually laughing and treating everything as a comedy, as though they are drunk on silliness.

17-24it talks about ghange,we no longer have to crave the things of this world,our old selfish behavior put it away,it talks about being changed buy renewing our minds,the way to do this is buy spending time in Gods word study/prayer/and meditation we have to replace the bad habits with new good ones.it will not happen over night,but if we do this daily you will begin to change

@William,
Of course the wages of sin is death ( Romans 6 :23), and that death is not always capital punishment as it is carried out with man’s justice. But also and mainly (in this section), it means separation from God.
Just like Adam and Eve ate the fruit, and that same day both died, but not physically.
It’s spiritual death. Like we find it in 1 Timothy 5:6 “But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth”.
Yes, we as Christians ought to stoop down to them to finally lift them, but while doing that, we have to keep the demarcation lines clear and distinct, just like Jude 1:23 says “And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh”.
No complacency at all, “but speaking the truth in love”, Ephesians 4:15.
God bless you.

Since John 17:3, Philippians 3:8-10, Matthew 7:21-23, verse 9 covered by a thick cloud, Jeremiah 29:13 that the people might hear when I speak with you, and believe you forever. John 6:17-8; 8:12. Jesus marveled in Matthew 8:10. Is there a greater marvel elsewhere? Is the only disease (BELEVING A LIE) caused by either Deception, or Pride. 1 Corinthians 4:7 there is only One God Who cannot lie, Hebrews 13:8. Who says there are no absolutes? The statement is an absolute, humble unselfish FATHER already knows everything, and is the answer, yet humanity is so wrapped up in their shallow little plans they miss the mark. His Glory Revelation 4:11, Galatians 2:20-21, Genesis 15:1, Philippians 3:12 Came here to understand this veiled verse 19:13 but got sidetracked. Sound unfamiliar 2 Corinthians 3:18, Ephesians 4:13.

Ephesians is my book of life. It reveals my true identity. I am always exposed to my real self; it gives me confidence in the word as I read this book. I recommend this book to all Christians. Ephesians 1:4.

Great to forgive.

I am in love with the book of Ephesians, it emphasizes on how much Jesus sacrificed for us and how we should always appreciate his love.

God called Prophets anciently both during the time of Christ's mortal mission and long before (Moses, Noah etc.). God is the same yesterday, today and forever. God continues to call Prophets today for which I am grateful.

@Tonya,
We should always examine ourselves ( 2 Corinthians 13:5; 1 Corinthians 11:31, 32), according to the scriptures, in order to find out how we measure up in God’s eyes. To be careful about making blanket statements about what we think on how God views us. It is a known fact that most humans see themselves as better than they really are. The measuring standard is Jesus Christ ( Ephesians 4:13). This is why we must be born again in Christ Jesus and grow in the grace and knowledge of our lord Jesus Christ ( 2 Peter 3:18).

All this chapter is centered around the Unity in the body of Christ. How essential it is!!!

@Jan,
About verse 18- when Jesus states that upon this rock I will build my church. Jesus is making a direct reference to himself as the rock using 3rd person singular. Christ is the head of the church Ephesians 5:23, I Corinthians 10:4. That's why the church is also called the body of Christ, Ephesians 4:12-16. As for Peter being the 1st Pope or holy father, Matthew 23:9 states to call no man on earth your (spiritual) farther, for one is your (spiritual) father in heaven. That church is building on the rock of Peter is in serious trouble when Jesus states 4 verses later that Peter is become like Satan momentarily (verse 23) and Peter is married. Matthew 8:14 which makes me ask the question why priests, bishops, cardinals and popes do not marry? I Timothy 3:2 states that a bishop (Pastor, Deacon) to be the husband of one wife which is where one would find the criteria of a bishop, deacon.