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  • Bongz on Colossians 2 - 12 years ago
    regarding verse 16

    it is unfortunate that some try to justify this clear statement, to only mean what might make them feel better. "...or of the sabbath days:"

    it is also funny to know that Jesus Christ somehow after resurrection appeared on the first day of the week more than once. Romans 14 also seems to be problematic for everyone that seems to honour a single day. romans14:23 "23 And he that doubteth is ****ed if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."
  • Linda on Colossians 2:9 - 12 years ago
    If the Word says In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead then it is true- Gd is not a man that He should lie 8)
  • Ed on Colossians 2:16 - 13 years ago
    God also said " If you love me you will keep my commandments", Also, "Faith establishes the Law".

    Well, first of all it mentions "Judge" To me this means that you can be found guilty of something.
    So, this passage is saying make sure no man can find you guilty of violating these things.
  • Bro. Daniel FC on Colossians 2 - 13 years ago
    @Rob,
    Regarding Colossians 2:16: “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days”. You say: “This is why we Christians do not keep the Sabbath, it is of the OLD covenant”. The “Old Covenant” contained the Ten Commandments written by God on two tables of stone. It included the forth, which begins with the words: “Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy”. Are you saying that “the New Covenant” written on our hearts would have only nine commandments? So, you are taking out the only commandment that says “Remember”, and tell me to forget it? Some Christians imply that under the “New Covenant” we don’t have to keep any commandments, because now we are under grace. That cannot be so. Here is what Apostle Paul says about the Law, in Romans 7:7: “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law”. Verse 12: “Wherefore the law is holy and the commandment holy, and just, and good…” Jesus Himself declared: “If ye love me, keep my commandments”, John 14:15. Not only that, He bids us to: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations… Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you…”, Matthew 28:19, 20. My conclusion is that the statement of Colossians 2:16 must mean something else.
  • MUNYARADZI on Colossians 2:14 - 13 years ago
    Mankind was subjected to eternal death through the fall of Adam and Eve, but the coming on board of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and His subsequent crucifixion brought back our rights to the heavenly inheritance. He nailed our failures, loosed the chains that connected us to the world and He connected us to Himself. Praise the Lord. Oh! Come on let us rejoice; He is the Commander of the armies of heaven, He blotted everything that was fighting us. Yes, he won the battle for us at the Cross. Believe me He did it. Yes, He suffered it for us, He carried the humiliation in our positions. Paul rightly pointed out that to the Philippians in Philippians 2:6-10. After all He was given the Name above every name, believe me. Mordecai and Esther did it, they reversed the cruel anticipation of the king's aid Haman. He cancelled them for us, yes, for us. FOR YOU AND ME. AMEN.
  • Jay on John 3 - 13 years ago
    @Ken,
    The scripture that you can read and get a visual picture of salvation is Colossians 2:9-13.
  • Rob on Colossians 2 - 13 years ago
    Verse 16, This is why we Christians do not keep the Sabbath, it is of the old covenant.
  • Enrique on Colossians 2:8 - 13 years ago
    That is the trap mystics display, don’t apply reason, I know better, the mystic says, to establish the boundaries of reality out of reach! Trust me.
  • Jay on Mark 12 - 13 years ago
    @Bethany and Bill,
    On verse 29, the 3 distinct persons of the godhead ( Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9) do always act as one in unison, they never act separate from the other persons in the godhead. 3 in 1 person ( I John 5:7-8).
  • Jay on Mark 11 - 13 years ago
    On verses 13 and 24:
    1. The fig tree represents the nation of Israel;
    2. Jesus saw it afar off like when people view religion, but when a person takes the time to investigate religion closely they begin to see it for what it is (false Christianity). The leaves represent religion that is drenched in the law and dressed in the unbiblical traditions of men ( Colossians 2:8). True spiritual fruit ( Matthew 7:16) comes from the grace of our lord Jesus Christ working through us, after being born again ( Galatians 5:22-26). Of course Jesus did what he always does to nations, denominations, and individuals that are trying to produce heavenly fruits through fleshly seeds, he places an ichabod curse on that unfruitful religious situation.
  • Jay on Mark 4 - 13 years ago
    @ St Daniels,
    This individual is correct in that we must be born again to receive the truth of understanding and wisdom of God's holy word ( John 3:3-5; 4:24).
    1. The bible is written for believers after they have been regenerated;
    2. But one does not stay saved by their works of goodness (righteousness);
    3. We are saved by the faith of Jesus Christ ( Hebrews 12:2), all we do is ask for it ( Romans 10:10-13). It is his (Jesus) faith that saves us and keeps us saved ( Hebrews 12:2);
    4. Anyone that believes you can lose your salvation after being born again, does not comprehend the meaning of being born again ( Colossians 2:9-13);
    5. Jesus is eternal and when you receive him as lord and savior, your become eternal (new nature II Corinthians 5:17). Your flesh is still able to sin, but the new seed you have received does not sin ( I John 3:9). Flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God ( John 6:63; I Corinthians 15:50). A new baby is born with a live body, live soul, and a dead spirit. When a person is born again they now have a living soul, a living spirit, and a dead body. There is a trade off at the moment of salvation ( Ephesians 2:1-10).
  • Mas on Isaiah 45 - 13 years ago
    @Chris,
    1 John 1:5 says “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.” So God is not the author of bad things.
    But as people in the Old Testament had very little knowledge Satan, who is the author of evil, they attributed all; and the good, and the bad to God. And that is a Figure of Speech (way of expressing an idea that may be different from its literal meaning). And the Figure of Speech is called Idiom of Permission.
    That Idiom is found in places like Matthew 6:13 where it says “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.‘’ Which would literally mean God may lead us into temptation; which the Bible denies God would do in James 1:13, as it says “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:”
    In fact the devil is responsible for all evil, and Jesus Christ made him known to the public (Church), Colossians 2:15. Satan can no more hide.
    God bless you.
  • B G Drake on Colossians 2:18 - 13 years ago
    I agree that the simple behaviour of men who worship other spirits and things than the true God are to be rejected as false. I have seen the mild mannered sadhus and priets who walk about barefooted and barefaced teach things that ought not be taught, including privileges of the so-called "holy ones" to have access to the women who come to the temples in early mornings, etc. Teachers who say they love God and walk (in false humility) contrary to righteousness and to the teachings and life of the Saviour, and exploit people of earnest faith in God, will be abandoned to eternal darkness, and the lake of fire, though I do not understand there terms fully, but they set terrible alarm-bells in my spirit.
  • Alexander Payne on Colossians 2 - 13 years ago
    Hello, Colossians is one of my favourite writings in the Holy Bible. Colossians is great to share with people and study. Colossians is short in length and not as complicated as many of the longer New Testament writings. Colossians chapter three verse eleven addresses: the equality of all mankind under God and Jesus. Colossians chapter three verse thirteen addresses: salvation in great detail. Colossians chapter one verse 27 states: Christ is our hope of glory. In my own personal opinion, Colossians is a divine book buried in Paul’s work. Paul was in prison while writing Colossians; as a result, Colossians proves to show Paul’s enduring faith. The book should not be overlooked. This is a interesting webpage. Thanks for maintaining. -Alex
  • André on Leviticus 11 - 13 years ago
    @Casey,
    Colossians 2:
    16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
    17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
    God bless you.
  • Dsgl on Ephesians 4 - 13 years ago
    @Exjupiter,
    Grace is given to ALL, JESUS died for ALL of us! and all the water in the world will NOT save a single soul, neither will following the Law. Jesus NAILED the law to HIS cross. Colossians 2:14. We are saved by GRACE through FAITH plus NOTHING! ONLY the CHRIST Jesus has ALREADY saved us. We need to be more careful with our Lord and Savior's word and beware not to lead anyone astray.
  • Elder Vann on Colossians 1 - 13 years ago
    Isaiah 9:6 Tell us his name shall be called wonderful counsellor,The Mighty God everlasting Father prince of peace.God said in ( Isaiah 43:19) Behold I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth shall ye not no it? well I guess that being proven.As far as Christ being a man and God at the same time and not! being able to govern the Universe that's a misconception of the human mind. Jesus said to Nicodemus a man who was confused like many here today StJohn 3:12 If I have told you of earthly things and you believe not how shall you believe if I tell you of heavenly things and no man hath ascended up to heaven but the same that came down from heaven even the Son of Man which IS IN HEAVEN!!hello. The Bible dose not say God the Son because The Godhead is not divide because the Son is only the (Word) which is God's prophetic description of himself which he incarnated into flesh. Not another person!! bur the expressed image of his!! person.Hebrews1:3( John 14:9-11) Jesus did not say he that seen me hath seen God the Son he said hath seen the Father ( Colossians 2:9 for in him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily Christ is not a fallen man like us. We can't limit what he can do; because of what we! cant do or don't understand that's why 1Tomothy 3:16 say's its a mystery. Not every one will understand; that's the book that is called the Revelation of Jesus Christ says blessed is him that readeth and understands.( Philippians 2:19)say who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God; But made himself of no reputation and took upon him the form of a servant. Yes he dose pray to his own spirit Deity!( Ephesians 1:9 says Having made known unto us the Mystery of his will according to the pleasure which he purposed in himself. Hello!!11th verse who worketth all things after the counsel of his own will.( Isaiah 40:10)Behold the Lord God will come with a strong hand and his arm shall rule for him. verse 13 who hath directed the spirit of the Lord; or being his counsellor hath taught him? with whom took he counsel Who instructed him and taught him in the path of Judgment and taught him Knowledge,and taught to him the way of understanding. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered to me of my Father and no man knoweth the Son but the Father neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son and HE to whom THE SON WILL REVEAL HIM. So there you no nothing of the father but what Jesus has revealed blessed is he that readeth and understands.
  • Pastor Titus Asuk-enim on Numbers 23:23 - 13 years ago
    The defeat of the devil on the cross has rendered what ever 'power' the devel had before now( Colossians 2:15).
    Therefore no through child of God, washed by the blood of his cross can be bewitched, charmed or manipulated by any spell,hex or jinx. Hallelujah ! Praise God.
  • Timothy Wayne George on Colossians 2 - 13 years ago
    We often ask the question why do bad things happen to good people? The opposite of that is why do good things happen to bad people? God is a good God, and he causes his rain to fall on the just, and unjust alike. Also he causes the sun to shine on the just, and unjust alike. So thank
    God that he is good, and will always cause all things to work together for our good to those who love the Lord, and are called according to his purpose. Which is Christ in you the hope of glory, and thank God that he has crossed out those ordinances that were against us by nailing them to the cross. So be careful of the philosophy of men, and be filled with the wisdom of God. Thank God for everyday, for each day is a holy day. We are called to be holy as our father in heaven is holy.
  • Adekunle adesiyan on Colossians 2 - 14 years ago
    colossians 2 v 14The blood of jesus had blooted out ,( done away) with hand writings and ordinances(way its should be) written against us.This explains we are free or rather discharge and aquited.Having blotted out the evidences that initially made us quilty.
  • Carlton Le Grand on Acts 2 - 14 years ago
    @ Anonymous: In the bible there are verses that support the baptism of water for remission of sins, for example: Mark 1:4: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the BAPTISM of repentance for the remission of sins". But this does not mean that you were headed to the kingdom of God; there is a little bit more to that. You asked what is the procedure to enter the Kingdom of God:
    1: Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the BAPTISM of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
    2: Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by BAPTISM into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
    3: Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    And summing it all up for us to understand clearly: John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    So Baptism of water is needed for remission of our sins and the baptism of spirit is needed for the faith in the operation of God. In other words your sins has to be "washed" away and professed publicly (baptism of water) and the baptism of spirit has to change your lifestyle into one of Faith in God (Baptism of spirit).

    I hope herewith to have answered your question as to the meaning and function of baptism in water and what the procedure is to get into the kingdom of heaven.
  • Ann johnson on Revelation 18 - 14 years ago
    Saints, Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power. Colossians 2: 8-10 Remember: whosoever hath the Son, hath the Father also. Praise the Name above every Name. Jesus Christ
  • Nene Bax on Acts 2 - 14 years ago
    To answer the anonymous person, I'm sorry I did not answer your question. Here is some scriptures that maybe helpful to you. Matt 3:7,20:33-23,21:25. Mark 10:38-39, 11:13. Luke 3:3, John 3:1-7, Romans 6:4, Eph 4:5, Colossians 2:12, 1peter 3:21 Jesus gave commission and we must obey, alot of scriptures are very easily to understand if you pray and ask God to give you knowledge from above as I ask he gives me the word with knowledge. God Bless!!
  • Cynthia Greene on 1 Peter 3 - 14 years ago
    Baptism it is not a symbol. Why? Because it doth now save us . This is why we cannot do away with it. It is also a burial, not a sprinkling, or pouring of water over one’s head. Why? Because Romans 6:4 and Colossians 2:12 Speaks of Baptism as a Burial ( Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.) ( Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.) I just want to stop right here for a minute. Here is where most get it twisted. The operation Of God is Baptism, we are risen with him through the faith of that operation---(Baptism) A real life view—If you go to a cemetery to bury someone, you just don’t sprinkle soil on top of them, nor do you pour a pitcher of water over their heads, that is just not a BURIAL! Now for the question of who should be baptized? The scripture plainly states: in Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. I want to shorten this you can ask me for scripture / or look them yourself. This is God’s mandate for baptism. One must hear the word of God, believe the word of God, repent of sins, confesses Jesus Christ to be the Son of God and thence forth be baptized. Question can a baby do any of that? I must leave now feel free to get back to me on that.
  • MARYLYN on Colossians 2:18 - 15 years ago
    WE ARE NOW ON THE STUDY OF THE MIND.I DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS SO MANY VERSE IN THE BIBLE ON THE MIND
  • Sajubel on Colossians 2 - 15 years ago
    verses 9,10

    We are perfect in Christ.
    Man who is imperfect from Garden of Eden has now become perfect.

    And most imp thing is we must make others perfect in Christ.

    Pray for their sins to be washed away,
    Sickness to be healed,
    hatred to be replaced with love and peace.

    And remember always the perfect person the Christ.
    Praise be to Him always... bel
  • Bel on Colossians 2:9 - 15 years ago
    In Christ a man is perfect, perfect in Character, Passion, Compassionate, Love, and in natural, heavenly figures all that a man want.

    It is most important that one should increase in Christ to experience all that He had.

    Praise Be To Him Always.
  • Adelo daguit jr on Colossians 2:9 - 15 years ago
    ITS MY FAITH AND BELIEF THAT THAT HOLY GHOST THAT WAS IN VIRGEN MARYS WOMB WAS OF THE FATHER. WHEN HE WAS BORN WITH THE CHILD HE BROUGHT WITH HIM AS GODHEAD ALL THE FULNESS OF GOD AS WHAT THE FATHER HAS SO THAT HE HAS TO DECLARE IN JOHN 10:30 I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE IT IS THE HOLY GHOST THAT SPEAKS THROUGH THE FLESH OF A MAN JESUS.
  • Jake on Isaiah 9:6 - 15 years ago
    In what sense is Jesus a “Mighty God”?
    Isaiah also foretold that Jesus would be a “Mighty God.” Before coming to earth he was “a god” in the sense that he was “the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.” ( John 1:1; Colossians 1:15) After dying as a human and being raised as an immortal spirit, he is a god in the sense that he partakes bodily of “the divine quality.”— Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 6:15, 16.
    However, there is an authority associated with the title “Mighty God.” In the Bible certain men were called gods. Why? Because they served as judges in the nation of Israel. ( Psalm 82:1-6) Jesus, the “Mighty God,” is Jehovah’s great appointed Judge. He himself explained what this meant: “The Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son, in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father.”— John 5:22, 23.
    Among the judgment acts entrusted to Jesus is the judging of his own congregation—both those who had died prior to his return in Kingdom power and those still alive—at the period of his presence during “the conclusion of the system of things.” ( Matthew 24:3) He also does the judging of the nations today, separating “the sheep” from “the goats.” In addition, he will preside over the thousand-year judgment day of all mankind after Armageddon. A “Mighty God” indeed!— Matthew 25:31-46; Revelation 11:18; 1 Peter 4:17; Revelation 20:4, 5, 13.
    “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah
    Deuteronomy 6:4
  • Ben weaver on Colossians 2:21 - 15 years ago
    V. 21, "touch not, taste not, handle not" is defined as being the commandments of men which show man made religion, rather than an O.T. injunction by God. The previous v. challenges us not to be subject to such ordinances. Established churches in my own religious community have many such binding rules to help guide their members. After (don't associate with the world) comes (no cars allowed). Since modern tractors and wagons might be used to go to worldly places, more rules were needed. (No rubber tires allowed). Now abusive jolting of equipment brought on homemade tractor wheels with rubber in the structure to absorb the shock. More church rules needed. (Not over a certain percentage of the wheel may be of rubber). Do you see how such man imposed rules perish with the useing. Even well-meant religious rules eventually require more regulation, and the victims are distracted from new life in Jesus to worldly religion. This whole chapter 2 is devoted to contrasting; the kingdom of our Lord against the falacy of well-meant religion. James 1:27 gives a very limited description of pure religion that is not defiled before God. Let's keep our eyes on Jesus.


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