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  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I think if you trace out commentaries on Judas in the Gospels and Acts you get the answers to both of your questions.

    The set of scriptures that speak about Judas before he committed himself to betray Jesus are: Mark 3:13-19, Luke 6:13-16, John 6:61-71

    The event that triggered Judas to act on his decision to betray Jesus: Matthew 26:6-16, Mark 14:3-11, John 12:3-8

    Judas identified as betrayer at the last supper: Matthew 26:20-25, Mark 14:17-21, Luke 22:21-22, John 13:18-31

    Once his betrayal was set in motion: John 17:9-12

    At the betrayal: Matthew 26:45-50, Mark 14:40-46, Luke 22:45-48, John 18:1-9

    After completing his betrayal: Matthew 27:3-10, Acts 1:16 and Acts 1:20

    We must acknowledge Jn 2:24-25 was true of Christ before He chose any of His disciples. He was never deceived by anyone that temporarily followed him but fell away, including Judas, John 6:64. No prophet had been in Israel for centuries, so Christ alone had this ability when He came until Pentacost. After Pentacost the hearts of certain individuals could be revealed by Christ's Spirit to born again believers that are specially given that gift, such as Peter ( Acts 5:1-13, Acts 8:1-25) Note, Jusas, Ananias and Saphira, and Simon all had their hearts exposed as false thru their follies with money.

    Judas was a disciple and he was broken off the vine, but he never had the fruit of the Holy Spirit and was never pronounced pruned/cleaned by the Father or Jesus. We know this because Judas was broken off by the Father before Jesus told the disciples they were pruned/cleaned branches abiding in Him, the true vine, who would bear fruit in John 15. Judas was marked unclean, he was never born again of the Spirit at Pentacost or made an Apostle for the great commission. He died a disciple without the fruitful presence of the Holy Spirit. He is proof that false fruitless brethren can be among us who depart 1 Jn 2:18-20, but not proof some are broken off by God who actually bear fruit by abiding in Jesus.
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply on Romans 1 - 3 years ago
    (Not duplicate-other post deleted for edits)

    The Apostle Paul ( Romans 1:1), who was originally named Saul ( Acts 7:58) of Tarsus ( Acts 22:3), but eventually became known as Paul ( Acts 13:9), dictated the letter to Tertius ( Romans 16:22). The account of most of what is known about his life story was written about by Luke in the Book of Acts. Acts 7:58-60, Acts 8:1-4, Acts 9:1-31, Acts 11:25-30, Acts 12:24-25, Acts 13 to Acts 28.

    The Apostle Paul is recognized as the author of most of the Epistles (Apostolic letters) in the New Testament, which include Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians. Ephesians. Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon. Some also consider him the author of Hebrews, but the authorship of that book is not known for sure.

    Peter also speaks about Paul in 2 Peter 3:15-16.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Psalms 139, Isaiah 41:10,

    Psalms 130:4, Colossians 1:14, Ephesians 1:7, Acts 26:18, Luke 7:47,48, Psalms 32:1, Acts 8:22, Psalms 85:2,

    Ephesians 4:26,

    Proverbs 11:3,

    Psalms 119:16, Hebrews 2:18, James 1:12, 1Corinthians 10:13,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Free - In Reply on John 3 - 3 years ago
    Hi "Ruth" all answer is right, a personal experience here, i did not know where i stood. I wandered here and there, and unfortunately i also followed the spirit of the times in this world, the antichrist.

    Because since we that time still where "children", we have every right not to know everything, every right to ask, explore, learn and so on. We still do Everyday. 2 Thessalonians 1:12 Acts 8:16

    But when the Spirit in us awakens, we will no longer go around making mistakes. The Holy Spirit helps us if we let Him lead us where we do belongs. Namely with God in our Spirit where we can find strength, courage and forgiveness Spirit and the Spirit of love. And everything else good is there.

    That Spirit makes us living Sources who speak right and do right because we believe in Jesus Christ Is the Son of God. Nor will the Holy Spirit ever stop and give us words in our mouths to preach about Jesus Christ. John 7:38

    So when i walked around there in the dark before God found me. I did not have this Source because i was not filled with the Holy Spirit.

    But here we come to something central and important. All God gives us is Grace over Grace. Because when i look back on my life without Him and my life with Him, i understand that i have been under Grace because He has been with me from the first day of my life.

    Because when we are lost or confused, we can not even say the Lord Jesus name. Only if we are in the Holy Spirit can we say that.

    1 Corinthians 12:3

    At this stage i am also comforted since He has been so gracious to me. I want to believe that He is just as gracious with everyone else. When we can not say Jesus Christ from our mouths if we are not in the Holy Spirit. So i hear people say Jesus Christ with their mouths, is not it a confession in a way? Therefore, i attribute these people to the Lord. And He saves them to Himself after His will, i'm moving on. Hallelujah the Lord is near. Acts 8-9 Chapter. God bless us in Jesus Christ.
  • Sean - In Reply - 3 years ago
    It's simple to get saved, but the process of sanctification is hard. Before I elaborate, I assume you're referring how a sodomite can get saved; "gay" biblically means cheerful, "sodomy/sodomite" means those who practice same sex fornication.

    You meet God in his own terms:

    1.) You have to be in a broken and contrite state.

    Psalms 51:17 "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise."

    2.) You call upon Jesus to save you.

    Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

    3.) Put your faith in the Lord. (Take note that the eunuch called upon the Lord, he didn't just believe his way to salvation)

    Acts 8:37 "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

    If you followed these steps, then you are saved; you will have assurance of your salvation as it'll come through chastening, if you don't have any chastening in your life, then you're not saved.

    Hebrews 12:7

    "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?"

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    If you're still confused, ask Jesus to show you the way to salvation, he'll give you wisdom.

    James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."

    John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    This is my name.

    It's alright if you don't wish to respond to me, which ever the reasons may be. Please read: John 19:28, 1 Peter 1:20,

    John 19:36, prophetic fulfilled by Isaiah the same Prophet that declares GOD's recompense, vengeance, punishment. Romans 11:2,

    Luke 4:18,19, Isaiah 53, Luke 4:23-27, Galatians 3:8, Acts 8:32, Mark 15:28, Psalms 22, John 19,

    John 19:37, John 20:9, 2 Timothy 3:16, Mark 12:10, John 13:18, John 7:42, John 17:12,

    Luke 8:28

    Jude 1,

    Matthew 25:31-46,
  • Free - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hallo dear "Ryan". God is Spirit as u know. This day i read in peace from Acts 8:33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

    34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

    35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

    36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

    37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

    Amen.

    How quickly things can happen when we turn too the Lord, He delivers whoever it may be. Be blessed in His Holy Name Jesus Christ and have a very merry Christmas with Him that understand everything.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Rick,

    I agree that quarrelling should be avoided and its best to avoid any "I'm right/you're wrong" discussions, however, there is only one truth. If something is publicly posted that is not truth and might lead someone else to stumble there is an obligation for believers to gently share the truth, in attempt to reverse the damage done.

    So, you wrote: "its not a requirement for spiritual baptism."

    But Jesus said: " John 3:5, Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    "water and of the Spirit"

    Not just Spirit.

    "cannot enter into the kingdom of God"

    And God's Word in Acts 2:38 says: "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

    "be baptized"

    But who, surely not me?

    "every one of you"

    But there's more scripture: Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Acts 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

    Acts 8:36-39 - And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

    So, if I'm honest with myself, even if I didn't want to be baptized or was taught it wasn't necessary, or was embarrassed, or had any other reasons for not wanting to obey, it would be a very tough sell to read all these verses saying to be baptized and instead claim that we should NOT be baptized.
  • How to be free from Oppression - In Reply - 3 years ago
    What you're dealing with is demonic. Unbelievers don't know they've been taken hostage.

    Believers know they've been snared. The Holy Spirit is the only one who can break the ties that bind us. We pray and ask for HELP to break the bonds and be freed. We do that by depending upon what Jesus did on the Cross to set us free. He paid in blood. Satan nor demons have AUTHORITY to cross that blood and take a Christian captive. Whom the Son sets free, is free Indeed.

    Faith in Christ stands up and takes that authority back! Ephesians 6. The Helmet of Salvation. Start pleading the blood of Jesus when THE TEMPTER shows up. The more scripture you know__the more ammo you have to shoot back at the evil. Read about Jesus 40 day fast after his baptism. "IT IS WRITTEN_____ " you fill in that blank with a verse, like He did. It absolutely works. We're weak often because we fill our minds with television, novels and video games.

    FILL UP ON JESUS.

    Spirit of Bondage

    Manifestations - Fears, Addictions (Drugs, Alcohol, Cigarettes, Food, Etcetera...), Fear of Death, Captivity to Satan, Servant of Corruption, Compulsive Sin, Bondage to Sin

    Scriptures: ( Romans 6:16; 7:23; 8:15; 2 Peter 2:19; Hebrews 2:14-15; Luke 8:23; John 8:34; Acts 8:23; Proverbs 5:2; 2 Timothy 2:26)

    Roots... "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

    "By their fruits you will know all men," Matthew 7:20. According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18 BIND: Spirit of Bondage

    LOOSE: Liberty, Spirit of Adoption:

    Spirit of God: Pure Spirit, Holiness, Commitment, Insatiable

    Ever Increasing Hunger for the Holy Spirit.

    You're going to feel silly, because demons are invisible. Eph.6

    On YouTube, watch Charles Capps: Authority of the Believer. Take notes. When you get free, tell others how to be free.

    Don't be anesthetized by television. Read more New Testament Bible.

    ** Luke 11:24-26 garnish means Bible and Faith
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part 2. Baptism.



    Now let us look at a few more scriptures people like to use on the subject, water baptism a requirement for salvation.

    Another in Acts 8:35-38.

    Vs 35: Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, AND PREACHED UNTO HIM JESUS.

    Philip preached the gospel according to those scriptures!!

    "Same as paul."

    Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

    By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    AND THAT HE WAS BURIED, AND THAT HE ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY, according to the scriptures:

    Vs 36-37. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? Did you notice the eunuch asked for the water baptism, Philip didn't require it.

    NOTICE VERSE 37.

    And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Believest what? THE GOSPEL THAT HE PREACHED!

    And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

    And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, AND PREACH THE GOSPEL to every creature.

    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;.; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; ect: How are they baptized? BY BELEIVING! This is the baptism of the Holyspirit. That's why Jesus says: "And these signs shall follow them that believe;"
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part 1.

    Hi Grace Ambassador.

    That is the question to be asked! it seems to be 2 arguments here.

    Brother Chris gave a good sound take on this. I would like to add to it. First of all how many on the site have the Holyspirit? Did you receive him by the laying on of the hands or when you received Christ as savior? Perhaps this power was done by only the Apostles.

    Should a believer be baptized? Yes I believe so. Is baptism a requirement for salvation? NO. And the scriptures presented doesn't say so. Baptism means to identify with. who does the water baptism? Who does the baptism of the Holyspirit? The lord himself. Who are we identifying with and what are we identifying with? Christ death and resurrection on the cross. When are you Identified with Christ? When you are water baptized are when you receive Christ as your savior? Its when you receive Christ as your savior. Water baptism is an outwardly profession of what you believe in.

    Acts 8:14-117.

    Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had "RECIEVED" the word of God,

    PAUSE. See Mathew 13:23.

    RESUME. ( they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:) PAUSE. Did Peter and John come down to water baptize them? No the next verse says they were already baptized. You see in water baptism doesn't slay the "old man". Romans 6:3-4.

    NOTICE THE DISTINCTION.

    ( For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: "ONLY" they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. There is 2 baptisms shown here, and It doesn't sound like water baptism was required, if so what need of Peter and John?

    John the baptist makes that distinction in Mathew 3:11. Johns baptism was a baptism of repentance. " to go from unbelief to belief. and when they believed they were put in the body of believers. "baptized by the Holyspirit.

    see part 2 God bless.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} various washings on Hebrews 9 - 3 years ago
    Part 2 More baptism questions for today's water adherents:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance:

    c) Is this baptism "for today"? IF this baptism is For us Today, we have Several More Questions:

    c1) Why does No one Today, "teach, as John ( Under The LAW! ), Claimed": it is For "making CHRIST Manifest To Israel" John 1:31?

    c2) Why does {Almost} No one Today, "Confess their sins," when they come to water baptism Matthew 3:6 Mark 1:5?

    c3) Why do not ALL Divided "denominations who Water baptize" today, agree As ONE, And "teach" water as John, CHRIST, And The Twelve ( Under The LAW! ), "taught" That "water baptism Is For The Remission Of sins!" Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 Acts 2:38 { instead of each one's own "symbolic Re-Interpreted Traditions!" }?

    10. Baptism Of Anointing?: Pentecostal Spirit baptism; This is the baptism "WITH" The Holy Spirit, BY JESUS CHRIST, From Heaven, Poured Out Upon the believing remnant of Israel with signs and powers following. Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Mark 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16.

    And, is not This The THIRD Requirement For "priesthood induction" = Anointing? Compare Exodus 29:7 Leviticus 8:10-12.

    Is God Performing "This" Baptism On us TODAY? IF so, Why NO "signs and powers"?

    Conclusion: IF any water adherent, today, Under GRACE, believes he/she has been water baptized into the 'Israeli priesthood,' is he/she Absolutely Sure he/she Has Met The other Two Requirements Of God? IF he/she has Not "met them," then does not The Following apply To us Today?:

    God Superseded Two baptisms, Under Law, With ONE Baptism, Under GRACE! Link

    Further Note: Paul, in Romans through Philemon, has No doctrine of 'priesthood' for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE, Today, hmm...

    Prophecy vs MYSTERY: Link

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Carleton - In Reply - 3 years ago
    But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all of Judea, and Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

    Acts 1:8

    Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?

    Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.

    Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part in me.

    John 13:6-8

    Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Excepta man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

    John 3:5

    And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Phillip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

    Acts 8:38

    And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Phillip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

    Acts 8:39

    That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word.

    Ephesians 5:26

    Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

    Acts 10:47

    But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

    John 19:34

    This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    1 John 5:6

    In that day shall the branch of the LORD ne beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.

    And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even ecery one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:

    Isaiah 4:2-3

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  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} solving water confusion on Acts 2:18 - 3 years ago
    Part II

    1 Corinthians 12:13 God's ONE Baptism for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE/Mystery:

    Precious friends, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" if you wish...} Mat 3:5-6 Mrk 1:4 Luk 3:3 John 1:31 Luk 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Mat 28:19

    Mrk 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Eze 36:25 John 18:35 Exo 19:6 +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! Isa 44:3 Mat 3:11 Mark 1:8 Mark 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided 2Ti 2:15 From Things That Differ!:

    2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! Eph 4:5 Col 2:12 Gal 3:27 Rom 6:3-4

    1Co 12:13

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the sinner "believes in CHRIST, that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friends, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    2Ti 2:15 Rom 16:25 Eph 1:3-9 Eph 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' for All to "See," today?

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} repent for remission - In Reply on John 3 - 3 years ago
    Part II OR: Baptism Of Repentance For The Remission Of sins?:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve 'Were Sent' to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25 John 18:35 Exodus 19:6 ) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Mark 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16 )

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15 ) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul 'Was Not Sent' to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4 1 Corinthians 12:13 )

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God Saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    More spiritual understanding of 'Prophecy vs MYSTERY':

    Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on 1 Corinthians 12 - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 12:13 God's ONE Baptism for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE/Mystery:

    Precious friends, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the sinner "believes in CHRIST, that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friends, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Hello Lily. If we say that the Holy Spirit is a person, some people might think that we believe in two gods. So that word (person) can often be unsuitable or confusing to some.

    It's best to understand the Holy Spirit (& Jesus) as living parts or emanations from the One God. Just as Jesus, before His incarnation (i.e. coming to Earth in human form) was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14), so to the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God sent out to accomplish God's Will. Neither the Word of God (Jesus) nor the Holy Spirit are ever independent of God - all are equally One & eternally One - God wouldn't be Who He is without the Word & the Holy Spirit.

    But when we read in the Bible of the Holy Spirit's Attributes & Work, we are actually seeing God manifesting Himself in the out-working of His Spirit. If you look up the following Scriptures, you can see God the Spirit manifested in a few ways:

    a. He is intelligent ( 1 Corinthians 2:10,11)

    b. He has feelings ( Ephesians 4:30)

    c. He has a will ( 1 Corinthians 12:11)

    d. He teaches ( John 14:26)

    e. He guides ( John 16:13; Romans 8:14)

    f. He commissions ( Acts 13:4)

    g. He commands ( Acts 8:29)

    h. He contends ( Genesis 6:3)

    i. He intercedes ( Romans 8:26)

    So, the Holy Spirit is not simply a force or a power of God, as some want to believe. He is God Himself because He goes about His Work as God desires (i.e. as if God was on Earth doing it). Nothing the Spirit does is contrary or independent of God, just as Jesus on Earth, perfectly fulfilled God's Will through His Words, His Life, His Work, & His Death (you can read Jesus' wonderful prayer to His Father in this respect). I hope that has been a little helpful. May the Spirit (the Living God) help you as you meditate on these things from the Word.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Acts 4 - 3 years ago
    Precious Yunda, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friend, Yunda, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

    Prophecy/Law: 15) The Two "Main" (of 12) baptismS = A) water, For remission of sins! ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25)

    B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8, 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18, 38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From {RDf} "Things That DIFFER!":

    Mystery/GRACE!: 15) Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13) 'ONE' = not two...

    Prophecy/Law: 16) Forgive others First, Then God Will Forgive! ( Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 16) Forgive others Because CHRIST Has Already Forgiven us! ( Ephesians 4:32)

    Prophecy/Law: 17) Taught how/what to pray! ( Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!" ( Philippians 4:6) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

    17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought," But "The Spirit Intercedeth For us, According To The Will Of God!..." ( Romans 8:26)

    Prophecy/Law {earthly!}: 18) "watchmen," {as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth!}, looking for The "wicked one, the deceiving man of Sin" And "signs" ( Matthew 24)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE {Heavenly!}: 18) ambassadors {As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven!} Looking, Watching, & Waiting For The Holy One, The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven!} ( Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11; 2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13)

    Please Be RichlyEncouraged!

    Heavenly GRACE/Mystery fellowship, today? ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious Dan:

    " Mark 16:14-17 So, yes Jesus does confirm that we must believe and be baptized! Amen"

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on Galatians 2:7 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, IMKane: "Paul seems to be saying there were TWO gospels." Yes, Biblically Correct! Note the following 'Dispensational' Differences Between God's TWO Gospels:

    Part I Gospel of the kingdom =

    Gospel of the circumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

    Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 ( Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

    The Prophecy Program for the Jews ( Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26; Daniel 2:44; James 1:1)

    Preaching of The Cross as historical ( Acts 2:23,36; Acts 3:14-15; Acts 5:30)

    Gospel to be believed = Christ's Name ( Matthew 16:16; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13)

    Salvation by faith and water baptism ( Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

    Justification without works is dead ( James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

    Repentance emphasized along with faith ( Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

    Reconciliation not mentioned.

    Covers Matthew - Acts 8, then Tribulation ( Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12; Matthew 24:14)

    Under The Law ( Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

    Good works will follow salvation ( Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5; 1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7,10)

    Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    Gospel Of GRACE

    to be continued...
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, Meaningful Questions: "does that mean I don't have to be baptized?...I don't want to do something just because everyone else does." This is A Very Good Point!

    Two things concerning "water baptized to be {or not to be} saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST: Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    -------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! So, Meaningful Questions, we don't do it "Because Everyone Else is" {disobeying God, In Confusion?} Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!

    More Relevant water baptism Discussion is here: Link
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Rick. I agree with your understanding of Ephesians 4:5. The 1 Corinthians 1:15-17 passage, I believe speaks of a water baptism, as in almost all cases of baptism, it refers to water baptism (e.g. Romans 6:3-5; 1 Peter 3:21; Colossians 2:12). Where the "hands of the apostle" were laid upon someone that is clearly a reference to an impartation of the Spirit (Spirit baptism) ( Acts 8:14-17; Acts 9:17; Acts 19:1-6). Or, as in Ephesians 4:5 (as you showed), plus 1 Corinthians 12:13. And yes, re-birth happens after one repents, believes, calling upon the Lord Jesus - there is no Grace communicated through water baptism.

    Indeed, Acts 9:17,18 mentions the word 'baptism' & it could go either way, though I see it as Paul being water baptized. And then Acts 22:12-16, Paul rehearses the same event & speaks of him being instructed to "arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord". Do you see water baptism here or is still Spirit baptism?

    The Acts 15 account, was about those men from Judaea & the believing sect of the Pharisees (v5), who wanted Gentile converts to be first circumcised & to keep the Law before they could be saved. But the decision was that neither was required (by the New Covenant in the Blood), except "that they (the Gentiles) abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." (v20). Those are my thoughts anyway, in response. The Lord bless you.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thank you brother ChrisE, I was afraid that I did understand you, as you wrote about this in your comments.

    Re: 1 Corinthians 1:17. I believe that Paul "was not sent to baptize", as his calling & ministry was specifically to the preaching of the Gospel & for the establishing of assemblies of believers particularly among the Gentiles, to whom he was called. However, he did baptize Crispus ( 1 Corinthians 1:14, Acts 18:8) & Gaius ( Romans 16:23), & others, such as the household of Stephanus ( 1 Corinthians 1:16), though this seemed not to be the thrust of his ministry. So the fact that he did baptize (& I doubt if we could interpret the word to be 'baptize with the Spirit'), it must prove that water baptism was still performed as prescribed by the Lord in Matthew 28:19. How else would you read this?

    I can understand where Ephesians 4:5 & 1 Corinthians 12:13 (as examples given by you) refer to baptism by the Spirit, however, the other references ( Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; & Romans 6:3-4) clearly imply that believers were baptized in water. So yes, I see two baptisms: one for identification & the other, for bringing into the Body of Christ & infilling.

    In your mind, would Scriptures such as Matthew 28:18; Acts 8:13; Acts 8:36; Acts 9:18; Acts 10:47,48; Acts 16:15; Acts 16:33; Acts 18:8; Acts 19:5; & Acts 22:16, be speaking of Spirit baptism? I ask, as I've attempted with great difficulty to reinterpret those verses to mean anything other than immersion in water. Yes, there is the ONE Baptism that is important, that from the Spirit, yet the Scripture is replete with examples of water baptism following repentance as an act of identification. Now if I could find a verse to show the annulment of it, I would be forced to re-think this matter. Thank you for sharing those thoughts brother.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part 2 More baptism questions for today's water adherents:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance:

    c) Is this baptism "for today"? IF this baptism is FOR US Today, we have Several More Questions:

    c1) Why does NO ONE Today, "teach, as John ( Under The LAW! ), Claimed": it is FOR "making CHRIST Manifest To Israel" ( John 1:31)?

    c2) Why does {Almost} NO ONE Today, "Confess their sins," when they come to This baptism ( Matthew 3:6) ( Mark 1:5)?

    c3) Why do not ALL Divided "denominations who WATER baptize" today, agree AS ONE, And "teach" water as John, CHRIST, And The Twelve ( Under The LAW! ), "taught" That "water baptism Is FOR The Remission Of sins!" ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( Acts 2:38). { instead of each one's own "symbolic Re-Interpreted Traditions!" }?

    10. Baptism Of Anointing?: Pentecostal Spirit baptism; This is the baptism "WITH" The Holy Spirit, BY JESUS CHRIST, From Heaven, Poured Out Upon the believing remnant of Israel with signs and powers following. ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16). And, is not THIS The THIRD Requirement For "priesthood induction" = Anointing? (compare ( Exodus 29:7) ( Leviticus 8:10-12).

    Is God Performing "This" Baptism On us TODAY?

    Conclusion: IF any water adherent, today, Under GRACE, believes he/she has been water baptized into the Israeli priesthood, is he/she Absolutely SURE he/she HAS MET The other TWO Requirements Of God? IF he/she has NOT "met them," then does THIS apply TO us TODAY?:

    God Superseded TWO baptisms, Under Law, With ONE Baptism , Under GRACE!

    Further Note: Paul, in Romans through Philemon, has NO doctrine of priesthood for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE, Today...

    Exhausted by "study"? Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Clayton, Precious friend. Two things concerning "baptized to be saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    -------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 7 - 3 years ago
    Mark, Precious friend, there is NO water baptism, today, Under God's GRACE. ie:

    Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?

    However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:

    "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?

    Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Romans 8 - 3 years ago
    Gerald, my Precious friend, I'll take your question "2: How should we be baptized?" Better

    is to first ask: Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then find out "how."

    IF not, then no need to find that out, Correct? Here is my "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli"priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITHThe Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things ThatDiffer!:

    Mystery/GRACE! =our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul WasNot Sent to water baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,Spiritually Identifying members Into The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) MYSTERY/GRACE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONEOR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God'sAnswer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely "Solves" theMany Severely DIVIDED denominations' Confusion!?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • Cindy - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear Ash,

    1. Pray as long as it takes for the scales to fall away from their blinded eyes. Psalms 146:8 "The Lord opens the eyes of the blind. The Lord lifts up those who are bowed down; the Lord loves the righteous."

    2. Pray for God to remove whatever Satan is doing to influence their blindness toward needing Christ as savior. 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

    3. Tell them about Jesus Christ or, if you cannot reach them, pray for God will send someone to them who can. A good example: God told the apostle Phillip to go to the desert of Gaza. Once there, he saw a man sitting in a chariot. God led Phillip to tell the man about Jesus Christ, and the man was saved and baptised. Acts 8:26-39.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 3 years ago
    Hello Chelsea. Further to what Adam has written & what I had earlier written to someone else who was in a similar situation to you: there are some Churches who will want you to fellowship with them & even participate in their Bible studies so that they can know you & establish your testimony by your witness & faithfulness before they will baptize. However, that is not a biblical requirement - generally Christians of the New Testament churches were baptized very soon after believing/being saved upon the testimony of salvation - baptism by the Spirit (being born again) & water baptism essentially go hand-in-hand.

    Since you have now felt the need to be baptized, have you spoken to the preacher who first led you to the Lord? Even though he may be old or possibly incapable, he can verify your faith & even suggest/appoint someone to baptize you. And baptism does not need to be done in a baptismal font in a Church building - a river, a swimming pool, the beach, etc. would do just fine. Generally, the one who shares the Gospel & leads that person to salvation should also take the responsibility to see to the baptism ( Acts 8:27-39) - but I realize that nowadays, that's certainly not the case & baptism becomes just an added-on appendage.

    And continue to be a loving wife to your unsaved husband - I can hardly imagine how difficult & distressing such a situation can be at times. Let your devotion to the Lord & your love & faithfulness to your husband always be evident to him, that he would have no accusation against your life & witness, & perchance, by your exemplary behaviour, your witness might speak mightily to his heart of the power of Christ & the Gospel. Remain strong in the Lord, sister.


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