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Part 2 of 3 You cannot find anywhere in the Bible except the one time Jesus said this where people were baptized with the preacher calling out those names. One last thing, if a preacher calls out the name of the Holy Ghost over you while baptizing you example I will now indeed baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost , that preacher has lied to you. Because no man on this earth can baptize you with the HOLY GHOST, no man can give you this gift. This is gift that only God himself can give.

Part 1 of 3 Hello James Did you really read what you are quoting? Jesus said it, Peter clarified it on the day of Pentecost, and there is nowhere in the beginning of the church age that anybody was baptized with the preacher saying the words over them Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Those same 12 men that Acts 19 1 thru 7 is talking about were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. To correct you it was verse 5 were Paul baptized them, When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus .

This is the reason why they were rebaptized in Acts 19. Look at ch 18 vs 24 Apollos was preaching in Ephesus knowing ONLY the baptism of John see vs 25. Then Aquila and Pricilla expained that Christ had came and died for our sins in vs 26. Then vs 27 he is preaching grace through faith. Now in ch 19 Paul came to Ephesus and they havent heard of the Holy Ghost there. They were not saved!!!! Read Romans 8 vs 9 and in verse 2 they had not even heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. They were not saved!!! Jesus gave the command to the disciples on how to baptize in Matt 28 19 and the Holy Ghost is mentioned there. So Paul baptizes them correctly in vs 4. Now Acts is a transitional book and Doctrine wasn 't straight until the N.T. was written that 's why you have the sign gifts for the Jews who require a sign see 1 Cor 1 22 and they were to confirm the word see Mark 16 20 see confirming the word with SIGNS following. We don 't need signs today, we have Gods word.

Hello Bro. Cliff You are absolutely correct. The other significant point is that these men were rebaptized the correct way in the name of the Lord Jesus. They were not baptized with the preacher calling Father, Son, and Holy Ghost over them. They were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. This is the proper baptism.

acts 19 vs2 here the bible make us to understand that as a child of GOD, our heavenly lanquage is speaking in tongues and is our spiritual lanquage to overcome the davil becos is the only language the davil dont understand

One of the most significant points in these passages of scriptures is the rebaptism of the 12 men who Paul encountered. The baptism is so significant to the salvation process that these men were rebaptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They were baptized and them received the Gift of the Holy Ghost with the evidence in speaking in other tongues as the Spirit of God gave them utterance. Now this does not mean that you cannot get the Holy Ghost before the baptism, this just confirms that the correct baptism is essential for salvation.

The message in Acts 19 is huge, and its defining power critical to our understanding of salvation, even to this day. In Acts 2 38, Peter clearly defines God 's plan for salvation, including receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit. The New Testament clearly documents conversions being accomplished based on those same Acts 2 ideals belief, repentance, baptism, and receipt of the Holy Spirit. Acts 19 makes it clear that IT DOES MATTER how salvation is approached accomplished. It is as important to us today as it was to those Christian disciples in Ephesus, and as it was to Apollos in Acts 18. Jesus was baptized, He commands us to baptize, a Spirit filled Peter includes this in the plan of salvation, conversions in the New Testament document it, and Acts 18 19 further define the intent of baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ as being one of salvation 's essential ingredients. Belief in our Lord and repentance of our sins, coupled with an objective study of God 's Word will naturally lead to baptism for the remission of sins and receipt of the Holy Spirit. As seekers of the Truth, we need to read the whole Bible.

Even though the Ephesus converts and others in the book of Acts received the Holy Spirit after water baptism, some converts in the book of Acts received the Holy Spirit before water baptism. However, I don 't believe that this was proof that they were saved. Let 's use the apostle Paul 's conversion as an example. Acts 9 17 18 proclaims that Paul received the Holy Spirit, and then was baptized. But notice in Paul 's testimony in Acts 22 that Paul 's sins were NOT remitted until after water baptism in the name of Jesus. Acts 22 16 And now why tarriest thou? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Paul repented, received the Holy Spirit and had his sins remitted when baptized in the name of Jesus, just like Acts 2 38. Some converts in the book of Acts receive the Holy Spirit before water baptism, and some after, as it still is today. This saving gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ that was first delivered to the saints is still the saving gospel today. Whether Jew or Gentile, it is the same gospel for everybody.

The Bible says the gospel is to go to the Jew FIRST Rom. 1 16 , so they are the FIRST to receive the gospel in the book of Acts chapter 2 , but they are not the last to receive it. Acts doesn 't end with chapter 2, so we should be cautious of anyone who develops their doctrine in Acts 2 while practically ignoring the next 26 chapters! If God didn 't stop in Acts 2, then why does anyone else? Could it be that the later chapters in Acts contain information which the cultists want hidden from us? Could it be that there are other scriptures in Acts which do not agree with the wording of Acts 2 38? Could it be that Peter himself, the one preaching in Acts 2 38, says something different when speaking to individual Gentiles like you and me? One only has to read Acts chapter 10 to get the answer. Peter is preaching again in Acts 10, except only to individual Gentiles, and something very interesting occurs. In Acts 2 38, the Holy Ghost was promised to be given to the converts AFTER they were baptized, yet in Acts 10 44 the Holy Ghost falls upon the Gentiles BEFORE they are baptized! Now, Paul tells us in Romans 8 9, " . . .if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. " Having God 's Spirit is synonymous with belonging to God or being saved John 3 6 8 , so the Gentiles in Acts 10 were saved BEFORE they were baptized in water. Why don 't the Acts 2 38 cultists ever point this out? Answer It destroys their perverted doctrine that water baptism is essential for salvation.

I do not have problem with the baptism, may I know Who really did the baptism.

The beginning of chapter 19 1 7 shows the way of salvation. Simply put it was believe repent baptism in the name of Jesus and receiving the Holy Spirit speaking in other tongues as the spirit gives the utterance. This is the same message that Peter preached in Acts 2 38. Notice that the Ephesus disciples received the Holy Spirit after water baptism. If baptism was only an outward expression of an inward change showing what 's already happened on the inside a person would never receive the Holy Spirit after water baptism, but always before. Belief did not save the Epesians, for if it did, they would have already been saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. If one automatically receives the Holy Spirit upon believism, which is commonly taught, than there would be no need to even ask the question "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed? " No, it wasn 't until after water baptism that they received the Holy Spirit. These Ephesian disciples were saved by the death, burial and ressurection of Jesus Christ. Death repentance, Burial baptism ressurection receiving the Holy Spirit. The same saving faith of the Samariatans in Acts 8, Gentiles in Acts 10. Paul in Acts 9 also read Acts 22 Jews in Acts 2.

I think this verse shows that these people really wanted to repent, and that they didnt care how much money they threw away, they just wanted to be with the LORD

Acts 19 reflect the power of God through all who will believe and live according to the word and doctrine of Christ. It is not wise nor safe to try and imitate the power of God.

Please give one Scripture reference where Peter and the apostles were baptized in Jesus name.You can be the best Christian by doing what Jesus says in Matthew 28 verse 19. There are several different ways people were baptized in the book of Acts which is a transitional book by the way. We are Gentiles and Paul the apostle to the Gentiles see Romans 11 verse 13, says you are saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH. It 's not of yourselves and an example would be water baptism. Please trust Christ alone for salvation. Baptism comes after being saved.

Acts 19 5 states that believers must get baptized in the name of Jesus. Paul did in Acts 8 19 22 16. He got baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Peter and the apostles of course baptized in Jesus name. Are you going to be a new testament Christian or a disciple of some church. God or baal. Who do you serve?

This gift is just as strong today as it was then. When you receive the HOLY Ghost it is same gift today as all those thousands years ago. I have Holy Ghost praise JESUS he said his words and teachings are Forever

Earlier this evening I did a Bible study with two Christian men One of the questions I asked was about baptism I was baptized young 12 and did not understand the significance of it They told me to read this chapter These Ephesian Christians believed but had only been baptized with the old baptism of John They had not yet received the holy Spirit but after they were baptized in Christ they received the holy Spirit They were saved

To whom it may concern,I'm sorry that you are missing the only saving message in the word of God but if you do not obey what Jesus himself spoke to Peter and told him he was giving him the keys to the kingdom of heaven and whatsoever he bind on earth may be bound in heaven and whatsoever he loose on earth will be loosed in heaven Matt 16:18-19 if someone give me a key to open any door for safety I'm not the one to stand and debate about what I think, I will make sure to at least try it for sure and if it don't work then I will have to seek futher (but) your heart has to be sincere to get in with God. JESUS is the Name above every name under heaven Phil 2:10, how could anyone go wrong by giving it a try for themselves before being critical or speaking mean toward each other about the word of God. Read these scripture's with an open mind Acts 10;44-48, Acts 19:2-9 there is lots more but enough for now. I pray in the name of Jesus that he gives anyone and everyone the understanding that read these scriptures.

NKJ Version Acts 19:16-I believe it was much worst then that, you might say it was a G version on what really happened; more like Genesis 6. The evil spirit leap on them and overpowered them, they were raped. That is why they were naked.

On one hand, burning the books were a proof of real repentance;on the other hand,counting the 'PRICE' is uncalled for, as it relate to counting the cost before following the Savior.

To my own point of view,word of God is what can make christian triumph in life circumstances.

The Holy Ghost is a Free Gift to the beleiver. It only comes after Salvation. Some have received almost immediately after being saved. Its a gift and is not possible to receive before Salvation. The evidence of receiving the Gift of the Holy Ghost is evident by the speaking in tongues.

Isaiah 9:6 tells us who Jesus really is. He is the Son, Father and God. Jesus is the name you should be baptized in.( Acts 2:38,19:5,10:48,8:37-38)( 2 Cor 3:1) Out of the mouths of two or three shall the word of God be established. Many times did the scriptures say Jesus name baptism but only once did it sayin the name of Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost( Matthew 28:19) If you put them all together you get the name and that is Jesus. ( Luke 24:47) tells where and what name should remissions of sins and repentence should be preached. Matt, Mark, Luke and John are the books that tell of Jesus's birth, life ,death and resurrection and the resurrection begins in the book of acts and is the beginning of the Church. Jesus gave Peter the authority to speak on the day of pentecost in St John(21:15-17)( Acts 1:2) as well as the first chapter of Acts, whom Jesus chose the apostles.
People try to say well who told the apostles to go and baptize in Matthew 28:19? Jesus of course, I agree but who stopped Saul/Paul on the way to Damascus? The same Jesus? YES! Paul baptized in what way and name? Jesus.( Acts 19:5) No other name( Acts 4:12) as well as One Lord, One Faith and one Baptism ( eph 4:5) People will jump over the book of Acts because of what ever reason. Acts opens up the name. If you don't believe me see what is done in Jesus name in the book of Acts. Do a study but before you do it pray to Jesus and ask for wisdom.

Jesus Bless

@Jean;The power of The Lord was strong upon Paul it permeated his clothing to te extent that if a person that believed touched him or if he touched a hankerchief or piece of clothing, the sprit of the Lord would remainon that garment and would heal the sick or persuade people to believe in and accept Christ.

Paul touched the items adn teh spirits and diseases departed?

i feel the kingdom of God is Spirit, God is a Spirit
john 4:24 the kingom of heaven is a relm not place
to enter a person must be born of water. (Baptism)
acts 2:38 and born of the Spirit the (Holyghost)
acts 2:38-39 acts 10 acts 19:5 acts 16 acts 8 read for your self. thanks.

I don't believe in adding my opinion to the Word of God, rather accepting it and obey it all. There is a command to teach nations and baptizing them ( Acts 2:38, Acts 8:16, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:5, Acts 22:16, Romans 6:3-5), and even in 1 Corinthians 1:13-15 and Colossians 3:17 that all we do in word or deed should be in the name of Lord Jesus. To me, it is not about what I think, it is about obeying the Word.

@Saleem,
We have two kinds of baptism:
1. Baptism of water (which is the first after people have received the word);
2. Baptism of the holy spirit. I want say it clear that all believers must be baptized of water and of holy spirit. If you are only baptized of water (that is not enough) read Acts 1:5, Acts 19:1-6, and Acts 2. Some people think by praying for themselves they can be baptized of the holy ghost, NO . One needs to be laid hands on the head by the apostles, then will he/she be baptized. As same applies when one person is baptized of water, no one goes to the river by himself and deep himself in water, then comes out and say I am baptized, no. But one needs an authorized person/pastor to deep him/her in water and get baptized. Also in baptism of the holy ghost, only the apostles today can baptize people of the holy spirit. AND MANY PEOPLE TODAY ARE BAPTIZED OF WATER, I Thank God for the baptism of the holy spirit offered to him by his apostles and I pray that all people could be baptized.

@Ces,
Please read Acts 19:6, you will find that the apostle Paul baptized people with the holy spirit, read also Acts 1 and Acts 2:8.

Today, many people and the pastors are only baptized of water. We have 2 kinds of baptism which all Christians must be baptized with:
1. Is the baptism of water (which is the first to receive after you have accepted the word);
2. The baptism of the Holy Spirit (which is the second one after you are baptized of water); read Acts 1:5; read again Acts 19:2. Paul asks some Christians if they are baptized of the holy spirit, and their answer was NO, we are not and we don’t even know about that kind of baptism (they only know the one of water). He baptized them (NOTE: it is the apostle who does this and his name is Paul). Acts 8:16, when they heard that the Samaritans have accepted the word, they sent the apostle to that country, none of them has received the holy spirit, though they accepted the word. And they were then baptized of the holy spirit by the apostles. Acts 8:18, Simon the witch saw that by being laid on the hands by the apostles, the holy spirit was received he then wanted to buy it with money. Guys my concern and I pray that people must meet the apostles in order to receive the holy spirit. You can be baptized with water by almost every pastor but when it comes to the baptism of the holy spirit you need to meet the apostles for this task. Once you are only baptized with water, that’s not enough, even if you are a pastor or a leader in the church you need to be baptized with the holy spirit. People think that by reading a bible or by praying for yourself you can be baptized with the holy spirit. NO. if you think so, why when you need to be baptized by water you call the pastor to baptize you? WHY don’t u just pray and Deep yourself by yourself in water. But instead you need someone to deep you in water and baptize you. Same Rules applies to the baptism of the holy spirit. You need to get an authorized person (AND THAT IS THE APOSTLES ONLY) to baptize you. Please try to look for the apostles they will help you free. I thank God for is grace that he showed me. Today I am baptized of both water and the holy spirit. I pray that you meet the apostles. We are going house by house preaching the word and those who accept us, are getting help. They have built the church of God in me. Their Role is great. May God be with you, until you receive this power that I am talking about. Lots of pastors from different churches today have come to the apostles to be baptized.