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If you go back to the original question that I was answering , you will see that it was about wether we should pray to the saints to ask them for their help . It was not about us , alive Christians praying for each other .

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thanks so much Earl for your heartwarming reply.

That is not quite right dear Jacqui.

Romans 15:30-31

"Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;

That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints;"

Ephesians 6:19-20

"Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."

Colossians 4:2-3

"Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds"

1 Thessalonians 5:25

"Brethren, pray for us (Paul says)."

Acts 12:5

"Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him."

And many many more. If Perer and Paul needed prayers from others how necessary it is for us to pray for each other?

James 5:16

"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

GBU

Hello Curious.

You are right saying that the saints are those that have made a covenant with God by sacrifice. Haven't we, christians, made a covenant with God by the sacrifice not of a lamp or a bull but with the sacrifice of God's Lamp, the Son of the God, Jesus Christ? If those who were not sanctified by the Spirit were called saints, how much more appropriate is for us who are baptised in the Spirit to be called so?

Please read how apostle Paul calls the believers in every church he addesses.

i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:2 "Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be SAINTS, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:"

Ephesians 1:1 "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the SAINTS which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus"

Colossians 1:2 "To the SAINTS and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."

And he calls saints all the LIVING BELIEVERS in all churches he has written letters to. So the saints are God's people from all over the nations through all the ages, dead and alive. GBU

Brother Ronald:

I also believe that somewhere in the future, after the second resurrection, God's kingdom will be here on earth, and the saints will rule over them and judge them, and give to them the inheritance that was given to them, all this is in the prophets.

I do not believe it will only last 1000 years, but for eternity.

I believe the 1000 year reign, is for the firstfruits of the spirit, and they are reigning with Christ NOW, as they are harvested from the earth into the kingdom of God, men (angels, ministering spirits) in glorified bodies, the royal priesthood, and they will return with Christ and sow and reap the harvest of those in the second resurrection.

We all see dimly through a veil now, but we shall see clearly, when we we are harvested.

We should declare what light has been given to us and share that light, and as we become more mature, more light will be given to each of us.

All will result in:

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things SHALL BE subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him who put all things under him, that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

God Bless you! and keep sharing.

To answer your question, we should let the Bible tell us or define "Who" the "Saints" are. For the Bible says to lean NOT unto thine OWN understanding.

"Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice." Psalms 50:5 KJV



- according to scripture, The Israelites of the Bible are the only nation to make a covenant with God by sacrifice - "And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the COVENANT, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words." Exodus 24:8 KJV. Refer to Exodus 24:7 as well as they made a blood in, blood out agreement by the blood of an animal - sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD.

"He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the LORD." Psalms 148:14 KJV - The word "even" throughout the Bible means "indeed". Knowing this, this is another verse that tells us the "Saints" of the Bible are the Israelites, which is all twelve tribes. The Bible defines itself for the most part if not all parts. Hope this helps, as the scriptures are the truth.

what about the tribe of Dan

Hey Zapenter,

There are many opinions on this, my understanding is Jesus is coming back to set up the kingdom on earth and I believe scripture supports a literal 1000 years. The events in Revelation skip around in the chapters which if we read straight through seem confusing at times. When Satan is cast down from heaven in Rev. 12 it starts, and in Rev.13 we see the beast rise out of the sea, which the sea can represent the abyss or bottomless pit. The beast was given 42 months not seven years.

We see the bottomless pit in Rev. 9, Rev. 11, Rev. 17, and Rev. 20. This place is the deepest darkest place where God has put the angels who left their first estate, 2 Pet.2:4 and Jude 1:6. This is where the beast will ascend from that is told us in Rev. 11 and 17 and where Satan will be for the 1000 years, Rev. 20.

If we see in Rev. 13 the beast has 42 months and we see in Rev. 11 that the two witnesses are given the same amount of time, 42 months so they are here at the same time. When the beast kills the two witnesses and that gets us to Rev. 19 the second coming of Jesus when heaven was opened, and we see Jesus on the white horse coming and the angel calls and gathers the fowls for the supper of the great God.

After the battle of Armageddon, the beast and the false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire and Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit and the 1000 years will begin, the first and only time Satan is put in the bottomless pit. After the 1000 years in Rev. 20:10, Satan is gone forever.

There is a lot more, and much I have left out this is just a very short kind of outline that I hope helps and does not confuse your study.

God bless,

RLW

Blessed be God,blessed be Infant Jesus,blessed be Our Lady in all her different forms,blessed be all the spirits,saints,apostles,martyrs,all the guardian angels of my life and family members,all the guiding and governing angels and spirits at my work place,all the governing forces in the Universe,all the God's in the entire Universe and beyond. Thunderously praise and glorify Infant Jesus in the entire Universe and beyond

"Great falling away": Revelations 9:15 talks of a third of mankind died. What could have happened? I think that the covid mRNA vaccines are just that. The chapter talks about demons having a King over them ( Appollo) and scorpions giving poison and being the cause of the deaths in revelations 9:15 or thereabouts. These are vaccines and the king over them is the Hippocratic oath that doctors take.

This , I believe is the mark of the beast of revelations 13 and 14. Why? The most crucial reason for this belief is that the vaccines change the human DNA by a process called reverse transcriptase. Thay add something to God's creation of human DNA and it is forever passed on through the lineage of anyone who takes the vaccines.

Christ said in Matthew 24 that as it was in the time of Noah so shall it be in the time of the coming of the Son of man. In Noah's time the "sons of God" (demons cast out of Heaven) liaised with women and the human DNA was corrupted. In Genesis chapter 6 only Noah was perfect. The word "perfect" is the same word of the Exodus where an unblemished lamb was sacrificed. It refers to physical perfection... God's creation.

This is what the great falling away refers to. Over 5,000,000,000 people have taken the vaccines that change the DNA. Equally doctors have said that ANYONE who has taken the vaccines WILL die soon. This refers to the "four winds ( Moderna, Pfizer, AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson)" that are kept for a particular hour, day , and year in Revelations 6 , I think. They are told not to hurt trees or grass but ONLY those men who don't have the seal of God in their foreheads. In other words , those who reject Christ. Revelations chapter 9 says a third of mankind died. That's 2,500,000,000 people. That , I believe , is the great falling away.

Sitting in the temple of Christ... are our bodies not the temple of God. He has already done the deed

I meant to say that we are sinful. oops

Way to go, Earl. Such a good post!

Hi Lat, my perspective is that what God created is good, but we have a choice in how we use God's gifts for good or for evil. Emotions aren't inherantly bad. Jesus expressed anger for example and that wasn't bad. If someone hurt one of my family members I would be ok with being angry for a period of time, but what actions people may take as a result of their feeling can be good or evil. Anger is not the same as hurting someone, for example. Those are 2 separate things.

People always have a moral decision to make and we always have a way to escape sin. Also people have more control of their emotions than what most people admit. People even have totally opposite emotions for the exact same circumstances. For example, someone may get a flat tire and be furious, but someone else may not care and be happy and content. For example if you were just married you would probably let it slide. If you just got a promotion or just won the lottery right before getting a flat tire I doubt you'd choose to have too negative of emotions over it. I don't know if this is common knowlege or not, but I'm surprised how many people I observe who assume they have no control over it as if they are a victim of their emotions that they themselves choose to have. God bless.

Chuck:

This is one of the hardest things for man to grasp.

Christ is the body of his Father and his God. Christ said of myself I can do nothing, It is his Father, the life of Christ, that CAUSES Christ to do the Father's WILL.

When Christ was crucified he commended his LIFE back to his Father, and Christ's body died because the Life of the Father departed from it.

His BODY was all mankind, sinful flesh, it died, sinful flesh died on that cross, CHRIST'S body arose because the Father put his life back into Christ, all mankind arose, as a new creation, we are the body of Christ, Christ is the LIFE IN US, we do what the life of Christ CAUSES us to do.

Philippians 2:13 For it God (Christ in us) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 I will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements, and do them.

Jeremiah 51:20 Thou (my body) art my battle axe and weapons of war, for with thee (my body) will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee (my body) will I destroy the kingdoms.

Revelation 2:26 He that overcometh (deception) and keepeth MY WORKS unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations.

If you understand this, then Philippians 4:13-19 will make more sense to you.

God Bless You!

Why does God give us emotions and then not want us to use them?? I'm having angry issues and trouble with jealousy! Not as bad as I use to but still there!

In philippians 4:13 i have strength in jesus!!!! my questions is verses 19 god will supply all my needs do to his riches !!!!!!! is it okay to ask for good friendships and company an a loving helpful companionship in my sometimes overwhelming struggles !!!!! or maybe i need to leave as overall overwhelming powers as this is difficult so to distracted me from god's plan ?????? how am i to knowing ????? please please pray so that i may find the answer !!!! and possibly i had an didn't realize it !!!-????

Zapenter:

What is the bottomless pit?

It is the grave.

Who has the keys to death and the grave?

Christ has the keys to the bottomless pit.

Who arose out of the bottomless pit?

Christ arose out of death and the grave.

Who is Satan that is cast into the bottomless (the grave)?

The princes of this world, that die still in deception of the gospel of the kingdom of God

Who is the beast?

The beast is the forth kingdom on earth, the kingdom of God. ( Daniel 7:23)

What is the 1000 years?

It's the day of the Lord, one day is as a thousand years, so far it has been 2000 years, and those that have departed during that time have been reigning with Christ, study the parable of the workers in the vineyard ( Matthew 20:1-16).

Revelation 11:7 And when they (the two witnesses, the law and prophets, foretelling of Christ) shall have finished their testimony) the beast (the forth kingdom on earth, the kingdom of God, Luke 16:16) that asscened out of the bottomless pit shall make war with them and shall overcome them and, kill them (they prophesied of Christ's death on the cross).

Revelation is the revealing of Jesus Christ, there is not a seven year tribulation, God's children are caught up to him one at a time.

Revelation is all symbolic of the fulfillment of the kingdom of God.

All the answers are in Mosses and the prophets.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

I was raised in a Baptist church, they are as deceived as are all the other churches.

You learn God's word by going into the wilderness ( Mark 1:12)

God Bless You!

Len hoffman:

Psalms 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he REMOVED OUR TRANSGRESSIONS from us.

All by the shed blood of Christ and his resurrection.

God the Father sees you, Len, as the righteousness of Christ, Christ has given you his righteousness, it's your inheritance, Glory in the works of God.

It's your gift from your Father.

God Bless you!

what God is telling us in this verse is not to be anxious in our time of need

a lot of Christians (believers) panic immediately problems and pressure the devil our adversary try to insert on us

See most believers pick up their phone and start calling friends or someone they call man of God or prophets( false teacher and pastors)

so here the lord is telling us to be still and know he is God and Blessed is the man whos trust is in the lord.

Jeremiah 17:7

("Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, And whose hope is the LORD.( Jeremiah 17:7)

instead of panicking kneel down make your request know to him and God who if faithful our rock and deliverer will renew your strength and mount up like eagles.

(this is for me as well as for us)

repent and believe in the lord Jesus Christ

Our Baptist church believes in the pre-millennial rapture of the church. In Rev 20:1-3, Satan is bound for a thousand years, and tradition states that Jesus rules on the earth for 1000 years. However, when reading Rev 11:7 says that the east ascends out of the bottomless pit to kill the two witnesses. Don't the two witnesses die during the seven year period prior to the 1000 year reign? So when was he bound and put into the bottomless pit. Did he go twice?

91 years old and realized jesus died for all our sins past present and future and not just original sin as i always believed. Lot of

reading that God knew world was sinful and all sins are forgiven, is a work in progress as we are not perfect but we will receive heavenly reward if we believe Jesus was the messiah and died for forgiveness of sin. now i read where once we believe, repeating a sin cannot be forgiven. which is correct?

Psalm 28 is alluding to an imprecatory mindset; in regard to verses 3 through 5 which basically states that the wicked should be allowed by God to be judged according to their deeds (like works in Great White Throne Judgment in Rev. 20:11-15.

The Psalm begins with a plea that God will not be silent; or perhaps that the Spirit of God would remain with David. In some ways today as we are sealed with the Spirit there is the promise that He will never leave us nor forsake us that is different than the role that the Holy Spirit had in the O.T. times where it tended to be more transient. It is hard scripturally to know what is referring to a temporal manifestation of the Spirit just as we sometimes experience now; and the permanent presence. Today; of course we no longer go to "Sheol" where all the dead went in the O.T. (see end of Luke 16). It is certain; however that a prayer not to be drawn away with the wicked (verse 3) is good advice even today as if we are not gazing upon Him we will be distracted by the world; flesh and the Devil and their voices.

The assurance of God hearing David (v. 6) gave him hope for that time and all eternity (v. 9).

The trickly part in verse 8 when he uses a plural term "their strength" could represent all anointed or a characteristic of all saints; it seems odd with the surrounding verses. Perhaps someone can look up the original languagae for clarification.

May the LORD be magnified and praised in everything we say or do in HIS name.

We are called to go forth and tell others of the salvation of the LORD. Matthew 28: 18-20

Romans 10: 14

We testify of the great and wonderful things that the LORD has done for us.

Psalms 126:6; 2 Timothy 4:2

GOD bless all on this platform.

October 20, 2022

I love Jesus

Sam Abia:

Isaiah 40:31, not Psalms 40.

What happened to some of the verses ? -- Psalms 40 verses 18-31 ( 31-- but they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.)

Deborah:

Your question, who are the dead in Christ that rise first?

They were the Old Testament Saints, they died not having received the promise, eternal life through the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

When Christ was resurrected, they also were resurrected.

Matthew 27:52 And the graves were open; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves, after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, (NEW Jerusalem) and appeared to many.

They were caught up into the air, and when we depart this body of flesh, in the twinkling of an eye, we are caught up, as they were into the presence of God, because you are married to him and have become one with him.

Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a lamb stood on Mt. Zion, and with him an hundred and forty four thousand (symbolic, not literally 144,00), having his father's name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:4 ..... the are the firstfruits (of Christ resurrection) unto God and the Lamb.

Romans 8:23 And not only they (Old Saints), but ourselves also, which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the SPIRIT (life and truth in us) ....

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection .....

God Bless You!

B. Reiter:

By saying no disaster shall come near my daughter or me, is to disagree with God's word.

Look at the world around you, do you think all the people in Florida that lost everything, some even losing family members, do you not understand some were God fearing, born again Christians.

God's wrath and indignation has been poured out on the earth, no one is immune, all will go through it, it's the righteous judgements of God.

Psalms 78:49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.

Job 10:17 Thou renewest thy witness against me, and increaseth thine indignation upon me; charges and war are against me.

Micah 7:9 I will bear the indignation of the Lord, because I have sinned against him, until he plead my cause, and execute judgement for me: he will bring me forth to the light, and I shall behold his righteousness.

Don't be deceived by mans teachings, Christ's children are going to go THROUGH THE FIRE.

God bless you.

Jude:

To understand Matthew 17:21 your going to have to study and understand Isaiah 58.

May God give you his understanding.

God bless you.