Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 934

Hi.

Maybe a stupid question but...,

Who is speaking here??

I can't tell if it is God or not.

Dear Predestination,

I'm going to take John 15:26 first, and this is one that has been taken out of context to show that God predestines people to heaven or hell.

Jesus says, You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: So people use this text as a text to show that predestination, that God chooses people to be saved, and that He chooses some to not be saved.



The problem is that the Greek word for chosen here, and please keep in mind that He's talking to his apostles, the final 11 or 12 that are with Him, and it's the same word used in Luke 6:13 that has a do with the Lord choosing the apostles from out of the disciples and that is what the text means in context.



He hasn't chosen them to be saved and leaving everybody else to be lost. He has chosen these apostles from out of His disciples. So these people were already His disciples but He made choices who would step up and become the apostles.

I am off to bed. I will look at the other verses and respond tomorrow.

And then if we have the Holy Spirit it produces fruit. Gal. 5:22,23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love....... joy...... peace...... longsuffering..... gentleness....... goodness....... faith........ meekness........ temperance.........: against such there is no law. and also Eph. 5:9 For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness........ and righteousness......... and truth.........; I put some space behind each one so we don't pass by them too quickly without considering our lives. We cannot have the Holy Spirit and not have this fruit.

Sister Suze:

Happy belated BIRTHDAY, I have four children, 3 girls, 54, 52, 50, one son 48.

God Bless you.

Hello, thank you for this reply! it really helped me understand some verses. But what about verses such as John 15:16, or Proverbs 16:4 and Romans 9:22-23? these verses seem to say that God predestines us from my understanding.

Hello Beck,

I did some research on this term: soul ties and also on soul links.

I would refer you to the site Got Questions on these two terms.

Also, these sites:

Compelling Truth-article on soul ties.

Fighting for the Truth: Soul Ties? I & Soul Ties? II

An attempt for further response to the question.

Question #1-It is entirely possible that Lot knew that there weren't any men who were actually interested in women anymore; hence it was either a stalling tactic or meant to show some sort of accommodation in order to save his own life or perhaps keep the son in laws from being attacked. We shouldn't forget Lot's original desire to go the fertile valley which was visually appealing. Clearly; the men were called in because Lot was familiar with this type of behavior; perhaps he had tried this before.

It is obvious for the sake of his own family he should have left there a long time before that; and more so since Abraham would have been there to support him if necessary. It also should be noted that Lot's wife isn't mentioned in this account which seems odd as well. We need to keep in mind how it is stated that Lot was "vexed with the evil" ( 2 Peter 2:7-8). He chose apparently not to speak out so the world's riches for a time had paralyzed him. (also answers question #2).

Question #3-Actually; it was the other way around; his son in laws acted like he was mocking them; they took it lightly. They were probably too comfortable there as well; certainly they didn't harbor a fear of the Lord as THEY were not mentioned either as trying to stop the mob; clearly something was amiss there.

Question #4. The other comment is good with reasoning and scriptures. We need to remember; that first of all these women had lost eligible men which likely took quite some time to find; and they may have thought the whole world was destroyed. They wanted children; without which at that time would make them sense they lost all value. It was also before Moses laws on marriage or relations with family and his wife was dead. Perhaps they thought almost all men had no interest in women anymore as well; living there. Not excusing it; but fear was their primary thought; not illicit sex for the fun of it.

Question #3

Are you possibly searching for similarity between: Genesis 1, & John 1,

Romans 12:19,

Genesis 34, Levi & Simeon took vengeance, then were cursed by their father Jacob "Israel", Genesis 49:5-7,

2Samuel 13, Absalom took vengeance for his sister, was away from his father & home several years, I counted 5 yrs, 3 in exile 2 more not allowed to see his father's face. 2Samuel 14:24,28,

2Kings 24:4, Proverbs 6:16,17, Deuteronomy 19:10, Deuteronomy 27:25,

There are several people who were conceived by rape, that have been amazing people to this world: Pastor James Robison of Life Outreach International who helps, feeds thousands & digs wells for clean water around the world in worst poverty-stricken places. Pastor Jack Hibbs,

Dr. Mark Sherwood, who helps people achieve wellness & better health, written books also for better health. Julie Makimaa life activist, Layne Beachly 7 time World Champion Surfer, & several more Pastors, Martin Sheen's (the Actor) wife Janet Sheen, mother of Charlie Sheen, Emilio Esteves, Renee Esteves, & Ramon Esteves all Actors.

Let's not disregard the right to life of an innocent human

Hopefully these are all helpful

Suze,

Happy Birthday to you, too. May you be blessed over and over again by the Lord this year. I am praying for you and your Mom and step-father. How is it going for you?

Mishael,

...continued

I am to be loving, because God so loved me first. I can do all of these through the power of the Holy Spirit at work in me to conform me to His image. Do I fail at times, yes. But as I age, I can know that I am not the same person I was 50 years ago, 30 years, 5 years, or even a week ago. I am every changing in a good way. I am sure that is true of you, Mishael. Happy 71! May you have blessing upon blessing each day you live with us here in this life.

In Gen. 1 : 24....God commanded every living thing to multiply after its Kind...in the heavens and earth and in the seas....And this was also addressed to Christ Jesus....Thats y he wants to sow his seed in humanity,...He wants to multiply himself after the Spirit kind, THE GOD KIND ...Thats how we know without a doubt that Christ is truly God th Son ...Simply b/c he multiplies after the God kind...Spirits...The H.G. is his offspring....When he breathe on them he was propagating very God....His breath was his word and his words are the good seeds....Then he told them b/c i have spoken these words ( his seeds ) sorrows have filled your hearts...A woman when she is in travail has sorrows, but after the Child comes her sorrows are turned into Joy....The Child is the H.G. the Joy of the Lord...Thats y Isaiah refers to Jesus as everlasting Father...Simply b/c his seed sires the H.G. Emanuel

......After he breath on them he said receive ye the H.G....That did not come till some 50 days later at Pentacost...Thats When he said receive ye the Promise of my Father which was baptism of the H.G...Thus we see that the spirit can be born in us who hear his Words....What i am trying to say is SPIRITS can be born in us via his seed the word which is spirit and life....Thats y he has to know us that when the good seed is sown in our hearts...initiating a birth of Christ in us....The Son of man

.....God even makes his Angels Spirits and knows them by Name.. Hebrews 1 : 17...And his ministers a flame of fire.....The H.G. Fell on them that heard his words... Acts 10 :44....Simply b/c Jesus is God the son...And able to propagate very God with his seed the word....Jesus cd not tell us To whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods...If he were able to propagate God with his seed the living word....They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin....The Babes and Suckling that are able to PRAISE GOD with a PERFECT Praise are the result of his seed ...our new innerman the H.G. SPIRITS.

Well Mishael,

I hope your birthday was a good one. I am 6 years younger. We are getting closer and closer to living out the last of the days God has appointed for us to live (even before we even lived one). I agree, when I recall the sins of my past I cringe, too. I hate these things I did and the way i tried to justify them. But I also remember that all of these sins are forgiven and cast into the sea. Satan wants us to still feel guilty about past sins, but we are not guilty! Praise the Lord. But when we do remember sins, we should agree with God that they are wrong and hate them as He hates sin.

We are getting older, hopefully wiser. We have more time to think deeply about matters and develop a mindset that aligns with the Lord's mind and will. We have people in our lives that may be gone tomorrow, so I try use the opportunities I have with them to help them in their journey towards eternity. We witness by what we say, do, and don't do. Our countenance shows the joy and peace of God and the calmness that comes from being assured of our acceptance with God. Our mannerisms show whether we too busy to stop and be helpful to someone or just keep going an overlook others.

I hope to look out for the interests of others and not just my own. I am to think well of others and not too highly of myself. I am to be patient and generous with others, whether time or sharing what I have. I am to be self-controlled so that I exemplify the character of Jesus and not give anyone a reason to doubt that believing in Jesus is the best way or see me as being hypocritical. I am to be abound in doing good and turn from doing evil. I am to be kind and willing to ease another's burdens. I am to be longsuffering, accepting what causes me to suffer with the knowledge that God is using it for my good. I am to be faithful to my words to others, keeping my commitments, being true to my words. I am to walk in faithfulness to God and His ways. I am to be gentle in my demeanor, not harsh-

The Antichrist System, Satan is "The Antichrist", the head of all Antichrists and there are many....

1Jo 2:18 (KJV) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Does the commandment, "remember the sabbath and keep it holy", apply only the jews as it is in the old testament? What does Jesus say about the sabbath?

I'd like to add, if your friend is talking about Jesus being somewhere literally "to go out to see him" Jesus warned the Disciples & us 'not to believe it & not to go' please read Jesus' Words: Matthew 24:4-51, note Matthew 24:4,5,11, Matthew 24:23-27, again in: Mark 13:5-37, note: Mark 13:5-6, Mark 13:21-27,

Other than that, Adam & "Old Man Wilson" gave good scripture.

The Holy Bible is all about Jesus.

Sister Martha:

John 4:24 God is Spirit .....

Ephesians 4:4 ONE SPIRIT ...ONE BODY ...

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL .....

Man, born of woman, (FLESH), is like a Beast of the Earth, NO KNOWLEDGE.

The Holy Ghost came to GIVE MAN KNOWLEDGE.

So we can be BORN OF SPIRIT.

God IS SPIRIT, no beginning and no end.

God created a IMMORTAL BODY, and put inside that IMMORTAL BODY, HIS SPIRIT (Himself), and called that BODY, Jesus Christ, the first man, the TRUE ADAM, with no beginning and no end.

Here is a PROPHECY in Genesis:

Genesis 5:2 Male and Female created he them, and blessed them, and CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM. in the DAY they were created.

That day (of that creation), is called the DAY OF THE LORD, the day you come out of darkness into light. You come to the KNOWLEDGE that by the RESURRECTION of Christ's NEW BODY (YOU and I) and the NEW LIFE by the SPIRIT of THE FATHER: we become ADAM, Christ was the first ADAM, before the flesh and blood Adam, we are the last, ADAM, created in Christ Jesus

Revelation 1:8 ... Revelation 22:13 I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY .......

There is only ONE BODY that can exist in the next age, and THAT BODY is the BODY OF CHRIST.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who only (Christ only) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT ......

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth IT (the new creation in Christ) a BODY as it hath pleased him, and to ever SEED HIS (God's on body), God's BODY IS JESUS CHRIST.

WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, The Father (SPIRIT) being THE LIFE, of the BODY.

This NEW BIRTH happens when your body of FLESH and BLOOD DIES.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN (Alpha) among many brethren (Omega).

God Bless You.

Happy Birthday Mishael , hope you had a nice one , I was 55 on July 3rd , much love to you in Christ .

Roman's chapter 1 should answer your questions.

Also, Sodom and Gomorrah were actually melted with liquid sulphur balls. I saw an archaeologist showing on video above the area where those cities existed. No bones were found I think. They found more of the balls underwater too.

It must've been like a Bowl of liquid sulfur emptied on the ciities. It's a great discovery because no one had been able to pinpoint it on aerial maps. I hope it's on Google soon.

I mention this because we can be pretty sure of God's view of cities full of homosexuality and lesbianism. (sorry Ellen). It is what it is. And it's clear in Romans 1.

As a Streetpreacher I've heard all the arguments. When Obama lit up the White House in rainbow colors, I cried. He made our nation's Capital a joke to snicker over.

I don't argue with them. It starts riots.

I love my Country and I honor every soldier that fought and died for this nation!! They deserve more than they got. Please let us reverence our military.

It's legal to change your party affiliation as often as you want. The House, Senate and Congress counts CONSTITUENTS ever morning over coffee. Well, we are the constituents! We're registered on one side, or the other. We need to "clean" house. They stomp on our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and salute the Flag?!

They've taken our oil reserves and gave it to China this week! Every week they give billions to Overseas countries. They haven't done a thing about our infrastructures. They've hijacked our baby food and formula and give it free to millions of illegal immigrants. I live in Texas and it is horrible to see this every day.

We pay triple at the grocery and gas stations. While the Congress gets FREE LUNCH, every day on taxpayer money. Again-Reregister and vote against this madness.

They just want our votes and step over us to get what they want. It's too expensive to ignore anymore.

Adios Amigos, Love You!

Thank-you, that helps of me understand better.

Lots greed made him leave Abraham his uncle and a man of God. His greed made him do business with Sodom and eventually move there. He was a man of means and had some authority. He lived there for many years and raised and married off some daughters,no boys,but still had two girls at home. His wife almost certainly was from Sodom and grew up there. He apparently never witnessed to his family and he did not live a clean life hence his son in laws mocked him. The two girls grew up in the filth of Sodom and their morals were non existent. I suspect he wanted to leave but the wife would have none of it, she probably had all her family there. The reason I say that is Hebrews said it vexed his righteous soul being there. Also, keep in mind I think he rarely kept in touch with Abraham.

Aww thank you. I smushed my little toe on a wall to help me remember: handle life with care. Be watchful, your adversary the devil sneaks around like a roaring Lionor a stationary wall.

It's all good.

I don't believe it's an oversight that God did not tell us the names of Lot's two daughters. Their story is inextricably linked to their father's actions and has implications not only for young people who find themselves in difficult situations, but a warning to every parent. It's a sad story in many ways, but also reveals God's merciful and redemptive character. We don't know their names because they could be any of us, were we to find ourselves in the similar circumstances.

[Don't Underestimate the Power of a Sinful Environment to Sear the Conscience]

In our modern culture, we are quick to judge these two young women and assure ourselves we would never resort to such desperate actions. We would be wise to learn from their experience.

Lot's daughters had grown up in a city where sexual immorality was commonly accepted. They were engaged to young men who scoffed at God's warning. God told Abraham, "The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave" ( Genesis 18:20). Apparently, there were not even ten righteous people in the city. Being surrounded by such influences had obviously seared the consciences of these two women; their idea to have sexual relations with their father seemed a logical and acceptable solution.

Left to ourselves, the human heart is deceitful and desperately wicked ( Jeremiah 17:9). Without the restraining and redeeming influence of God's Word and His Holy Spirit, we can't imagine the depths of sin to which we might go. Lot had failed to teach his daughters the truth about who God is; they were simply acting in accordance with the lifestyle and knowledge they had been given.

Titus 1:14 To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.

Deuteronomy 30

[TEACH your children Bible morals]

Similiarities between John Chapter 4 & Genesis Chapter 4

Mr Priday, you never answered my question. The beast lived and was one of the 7 kings he dies and goes to hell. He is allowed to live again and yes an assassination attempt is made probably set up by him and most likely he is shot in the eye (Satanist have an obsession with what's called one eye).He cannot die because he has always died once. That's why there are 2 men whose knee will not bow or be judged because they had 2 bites of the apple--they lived and died and lived again and that is why the beast and the false prophet go straight to the lake of fire ALIVE. I would appreciate a direct answer from you and a anyone else who would like to comment!

John, I'm 71. I've been a Christian for 37 years now. You know there is a Link out on the red page you entered the website on: Become A Believer. It really understands those first months and years of being a Christian. No one is perfect, except for Jesus. We are in good company.

There was a dry time in my life, when I wasn't hearing the Lords voice. He told me to go sit in a cave; another time under a shrub. He was wanting me to turn to Him in darkness, for my Light. He fed me my food from the Bible. He taught me to depend on Him and quit trying "to make things happen" faster.

Learning to be quiet with grace, is hard. Over all the racket; to hear that still small voice say: here I am in the midst of your storm. Peace. Be still.

I remember those nice days, going to Church with friends, then going to lunch together; movies, miniature golf etc. Jesus has much bigger work for us to do. Ask Pastor or his associate Pastor if there is anything you can help with. If helping others is beneath our skill set, we're not teachable yet. The Potters clay has to be moist and malleable for Him to make it into something useful or beautiful. Finally he thinks it's ready: into the fire we go. We are becoming useful to the Master Potter.

No matter how lonely sometimes, or a quiet room that shouts; He's always there with us.

Branch out and find someone who needs a kind word; a scripture; be someone who believes Heaven is a real place. Jesus will be there when we arrive.

Tell others how to get there. The Bible says earth is not our home. We are aliens. Our home is in Jesus. Someday to see Him as he is.

Our work isn't done yet.

Streetpreacher

Hi Melvin , Genesis Ch 4 V 26 , Seth begat Enos : then began men to call upon the name of the Lord . The sons of God are those who believe in Him and call upon His name . Cain is a murderer , Abel is dead , I believe that the children of Seth would be the sons of God and the children of men would be the offspring of Cain . Others may disagree .

Hello Martha GBU.... But let me give ya slant on Spirits....They are individual....As the Trinity is Father Son and Granson...They are all 3 related...As Father Son and Granson...But 3 distinct beings...As the bible speaks of God being the Father of Spirts...As his good seed is his Word...Jesus himself was the word ( Gods Seed made flesh and blood )... Just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas...Father God swore by himself that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....Thus an Israel of God which are individual Spirits...b/c of his seed...not the written word but the living Word...Thats y the sower of that good Seed a spiritual seed will multiply very God....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the Word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods plural thus we see that Spirits can be born in humanity.

...When Jesus breath on them he was propagating very God ( spirits ) with his breath which was his Word...And the H.G. was born in them some days later...Thats y he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit...They don't call Jesus the bridegroom for nothin, He has a seed to sow in humanity...And the Child is the H.G. THAT WAS THE GREAT PROMISE THAT CHRIST WD BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN IN MULTITUDE...And when God swore by his self implied this multiplication wd be the Regeneration of VERY GOD...And Hebrews 9 : 12 Refers to God as the FATHER OF SPIRITS.which are th New Born babes desiring the sincere milk of the word,..Thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed ( the word ) in humanity...That we might birth a Baby Christ the H.G. that Child of PROMISE...Natural Israel were humans...But the Israel of God are Spirits that are gonna be born in us sinners...Our New HEART and New Spirits are the result of his seed the words of that New Covenant living words...meaning living spirits all distinct living beings..Each Spirit an indiviual living being ..The Babes and Sucklings he mentions are SPIRITS that are gonna BE BORN IN US SINNERS.

Hi Fred , I always took it that the 'sign of Jonah ' was the three days of darkness , in the fish for Jonah and in the tomb for Jesus . Thanks for that different perspective .