Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 151

Rev.5.6 "The Lamb slain"

"And in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes." Seven Spirits explain the fulness of God so the emblem is the only one worthy, " And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon." This fulness in heaven makes the Lamb of God in human likeness worthy. In this case where did the heresy of 'Limited Atonement' come in and people under a delusion say Calvin was right. The lying spirit came before God to seek permission to make man stumble. "Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee." to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd. (1 Kgs.22.23; Ps.18.26)The same spirit works with Dispensaionalists and the Southern Baptists and all those imposter pastors who swear by Israel. CUFI had the POTUS make a public show of allegiance and we see these churches trying to foist a theocratic nation to please all denominations. Well we saw them testing the waters of public opinion by an AI image of him dressed as a Pope to coincide with the death of late Pope Francis.

Israel rejected God as their king and they openly declared they have no king but Caesar. Yet imposter churches claim that they looked into the book no one in heaven, nor in earthy was worthy to look thereon. The devil and Israel must be laughing in their sleeves at the enormity of folly they are trying out. It shall happen since they chose the way to damnation themselves.

The Lamb slain as an emblem in heaven is worthy to set the Word which was with God to empower the saints called by the Word was God and it is what the angel declared to Apostle John. In the book of Revelation Jesus Christ assures," And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." Seven horns of the Lamb signified power,perfect.

Hallo again "Dddsam87" Thanks for your reply, my first impulse was of course to call you, :) but that's something we should never do. But now we have a thread here and can use it. Of course I believe that you have Jesus. That being said, there are many ways to approach Jesus. In short, I will give some key words. Congregation, make one or find one. We in a congregation pray for everyone every day and night. Right now I am in the state church. Because I have a long way to drive. But there are people who take Christianity seriously there too and they fold their hands and pray. And I believe that all the people here on the web pray for me, as I do for them. next

Praise the Lord, Love the Lord and have respect for everything God has created and fear God. Pray and be prepared, because right now it feels like you are a little off the beaten path. Pray that all the lost will come home to God. We are living in the last hour. You know it is only in God's word and through the Holy Spirit that you can be trained to become the men God wants you to be. And then it takes practice, in your practice lies boldness. Confession always remember and stand up before the Lord wherever you are. So when you have had all this work seriously, then you should also have received gifts. Spiritual Gifts 1 Corinthians 13. And where the love of God and spiritual gifts are in you, it means that then there can be no spiritual obsession other than that which works for God, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit. The gifts you have then are so strong that you can chase out every unclean thought in your mind. As said earlier, Jesus says where such things come from. Matthew 15:19 and it is frightening for anyone who has been enlightened. Guard your heart above all else! So as a believer, I recommend you to become a believer. Stand up for yourself and confess to the world that you are a believer. I got one word for you today Luke 9:1-6 Take God'swordseriouslyandeverything willworkoutforyouasthe Lord Jesus want

I Sam.8.8-10 "So do they unto thee"

Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them."

People complained of the sons of Samuel. In our time we call them nepo babies, but Samuel was appointed by God and the people who complained were meddling with the commandments of God. "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand." (Rom.14.4)

"for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them." God saw through their complaints but the root cause lay elsewhere.' now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.' The nation wanted to be like in their likeness and not after the likeness of the Son, the Priest-King of whom God said,"The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."(Ps.110.1-4) For this reason Melchizedek brought bread and wine to Abraham and the patriarch paid him tithes. This in fact was binding on both parties since he gave as a token of receiving the blessings. " And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of al."(Gen.14.20)

God sent his only begotten Son in fulness of time. He came into his own but they received him not. Before Pilate they solemnly declared the had no king but Caesar. So God had foreseen through their sham revernce, "According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods" Unto this day is a phrase the Spirit to set the context in terms of the Son to whom God has decreed the day. The nation of Israel is refuse in the eyes of God yet we have CUFI the work of the devil to deceive Christians,- 'my name is in him' is the definition of a Christian.

Heb.7.9-10 "Yet in his loins"

"And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham./ For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him."

The writer to the Hebrews annotates the encounter between two worlds. On one hand we have Melchizedek, the priest of the most high God'. On the other we have Abraham. What brought heaven to the man? Blessings stipulated in the everlasting Covenant. So he refers Abram as thus,"Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth."(14.18-20).Blessings like rain come from the greater to the lesser. Abram paid 'tithes of all'. He paid tenth of all to God. There was no such law of Moses, for that matter no Israel to speak of. The key verse asserts, nevertheless, he paid it on behalf of Israel as a nation as well as for all families. The Spirit tells us that God had blessed him, 'and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.'(Gen.12.3). The Spirit included bread and wine as offerings that Melchizedek gave the man. He as the Priest- King represented Jesus Christ whose body will be broken in due time and blood shed for the redemption of many. This is confirmed by the Lamb slain as an emblem in the will of God.

This emblem never changes. So the writer to the Hebrews refers to Levi as though he were extant since the will of God is complete and requires no modification whatsoever. By the same token, where were we when Adam sinned? We were dead is it not? By the same token, where were we when Adam sinned? We were dead is it not?The emblem being extant we are called by God and in the book of life all our members accounted for. (Ps.139.16). But our election is from the throne of God and of the Lamb, so the book of life of the Lamb is the vindication that without shedding of blood there is no redemption. After conniving with politicians,, kings and the beast do not say, there is only limited Atonement. You are treading the blood of Jesus underfoot afresh.

Psalms - The Importance of Remembering

A few days ago, I was watching a sermon-which, in truth, I could hardly call a sermon. During that message, I felt prompted in my heart to read ( Psalm 140). It wasn't a coincidence; it was God calling me back to His truth. In the face of so many empty sermons, I found myself asking, "Does God know?" and "Is there knowledge in the Most High?"-just like in ( Psalm 73), where the psalmist also felt surrounded by injustice and the apparent prosperity of the wicked. Then I remembered how ( Psalms 138) and 139 reveal that God searches and knows our innermost being.

Therefore, I sent these psalms to a brother who had shared the sermon with me. I don't know if he read the chapters, but my pastor often speaks about these sermons with special effects-lights, sounds, catchy phrases. 20As a dreame when one awaketh; So, I tried to respond by sending another sermon. And it happened just as she had said; the brother's response reflected that.

This morning, I sent a song because I know that God is not cruel. I remember that in ( 1 Samuel 16:23), David played the harp for Saul, and the evil spirit would depart from him. But Saul didn't just need healing-he needed to remember God's presence.

That's what ( Psalm 136)does for us: it transforms the memory of divine goodness into a chorus of collective gratitude, uniting the faithful in one voice of praise. Perhaps that's why I prefer worship songs over sermons. Worship speaks directly to the heart. It cleanses, heals, and brings back to memory who God is.

False Prophets Addendum

The end of the last post ran out of room (what else is new)

Anyway; the Catholic church made these decisions back in 1969 to remove certain individuals from who they would say are definitely saints. We have to take care that those attributed to miraculous signs that are anything besides scripture aren't some imaginary persona. Even Mary from the Bible was elevated beyond where she should be and that occurs in other places besides the Catholic church. Peter is known to be a "saint" as are all who are Born Again in reality; but surely not to be worshipped as he made many mistakes including in Galatians where he had to be publicly rebuked by Paul for insisting on following Jewish customs.

Again; this sort of idolizing of long deceased individuals all too easily allows demons to impersonate people or manifest some sort of "miraculous" sign.

I need to note that along with total control false prophets or cult leaders will at times credit their followers for miraculous things happening as well; no doubt a sort of self fulfilling prophecy as their actions only that bring exaltation to the leader are venerated. Free thinking or criticism is never an option; whereas those of the Lord are encouraged as "iron sharpens iron" to build each other up. (see Proverbs 27:17). Also faithful are the wounds of a friend ( Proverbs 27:6). Probably a good idea to read all of Proverbs 27 I would think...

Scripture should never; therefore be read as a curiosity; we may start off in ignorance but in faithful service to the King we need to mature and realize that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. There is no place for going beyond scripture. If there is a prophetic utterance scripture is the buttress and on this side of the Rapture and beyond the completion of the Bible things are at best subject to change or delay. Repentance for now allows for conditional predictions; nothing is complete until Revelation as to the fate of nations.

(2 Peter Part 4b):

What Peter is trying to do is to say this is actual participation with, and interaction with the very divine nature of God Himself in all of His fullness. And that's what he's calling "like precious faith." What is the Christian faith according to Peter? It is somebody who participates in their inner man with the divine nature of God, nothing less. It's not religious!

Then we have in Verses 5 through 7, the participation in the spiritual growth process. And again, this is a participation. We'll see here soon that there are two kinds of Christians. There's one that's participating with the growth process, and there's one who has forgotten that he's been forgiven for his sins and doesn't see the need.

Now here's where we get into the tricky part, and I'll share with you the details so that you will have this information, so that when you re-read it in the English text, you'll know what it's really saying in the original language.

First of all, this section, Verses 5, 6 and 7, there are seven stages of growth. Next, all of these stages of growth are based on Verse 4. That's why it says what it does in Verse 5. There's a lot packed into Verse 5 so I will go over that tomorrow, Lord willing!

(2 Peter Part 4a):

2 Peter 1:4 - Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these, and here's the line: you might become partakers of the divine nature. The first thing a believer is, and we call it saved, we call it received Christ, we call it born again, but a person who is saved is someone who has become a partaker of the divine nature of God Himself, His qualities, His virtue, and His glory.

Now I like the way Peter says it because our terms are kind of loose and religious. "Have you believed in the Lord? Have you received Him?" and whatever these phrases mean to people. But Peter gets right down to the nitty-gritty. Like Paul says, if you don't have the Spirit of Christ, you don't belong to Christ. That's the nitty-gritty. Are you participating and interacting with Him?

That's what it means to be a Christian. It doesn't mean to be part of a religious system called Christianity. It means to be partakers of the divine nature. And Peter is emphasizing the divine nature, His very qualities, His morality, His holiness, and His glory. I am interacting. I am participating with the divine nature of God. That's who a believer is according to the bible.

And then it says after having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. That's called an Aorist Participle. I have become a partaker of the divine nature, after I was saved from the corruption that's in the world that is produced in lust. God delivered me from that. God put His Spirit into my spirit. He has sealed me with His Spirit to belong to Him forever.

(2 Peter Part 3):

2 Peter 1:3 - According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

Peter says according as His divine power has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness. So, this little phrase or parenthesis, and he's going to get to the main point here in a moment, but God's divine power gives to us all things pertaining to life and Godliness. We have everything. We lack nothing. Godliness means reverence.

Secondly, this all comes to us through the knowledge of Him that has called us to glory and virtue. Now the phrase "to glory and virtue," there are some Greek manuscript differences. And the manuscript that I am working out of (the Textus Receptus), it doesn't say to glory and virtue, it's basically of glory and virtue.

He's not calling us to it. In fact, the oldest manuscripts have the additional words "His own." He has called us of His own glory and virtue, it is not ours. Divine power, the virtue and glory that belongs to God, He has called us to that, and in it.

(2 Peter Part 2):

2 Peter 1:2 - Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

Grace, and literally since the word multiplied is what is called the Optative Mood (a wish), it should read may grace and peace be multiplied unto you through, or in the full knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, indicating one person.

But it is interesting that he was praying for grace and peace to be multiplied to them, but this grace and peace is multiplied in coming to know the full knowledge of God and Jesus our Lord. And so, the more we learn, if we're learning properly from the scriptures, grace will increase, the peace of the Lord will increase, the more accurately we learn about Christ.

Please remember the term faith, a like precious faith. When we get into the second phase of the Christian life which is the growth process in Verse 5, he's going to make reference back to the phrase faith in Verse 1.

The first 11 verses of 2 Peter Chapter 1 is the most difficult Greek in the whole bible. There are catch phrases all through the first 11 verses. And if you are not able to read the Greek text, these first 11 verses will minister to you, but you'll miss the whole point of the purpose and the teaching of what he's trying to say.

As I go through this, I'm going to mention these catch phrases, and mention to you the manner in which these 11 verses are written so you can benefit from these 11 verses from now on whenever you read them. Verses 3 through 11 are the phases of the Christian faith. And there are three phases that a true genuine born-again believer participates in.

Peter emphasizes participation. A genuine believer, someone born of the Spirit of God, is participating with God in three areas. The first one is in Verses 3 and 4, the participation with the divine nature. That's a different phrase. It's speaking of the Spirit of Christ, but Peter uses different terminology.

Biblical Greek Perspectives:

(2 Peter Part 1):

Second Peter was written to warn the believers about the threat against the Church from inside the church, the false teachers, and the false teachings.

2 Peter 1:1 - Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

He says Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ. He introduces himself as a DOULOS, a slave, and he also tells them that he's an apostle. That puts him in high ranking in the church. So, this comes from one of the original people who have been with the Lord.

To them that have obtained like precious faith with us. He's writing to believing Jews. But he's telling them, writing to you who have obtained like precious faith with us. The word precious in the Greek text (ISOTIMON) is the word valuable. Peter is saying that every believer, when they receive Christ, they receive the same valuable faith as Peter and the others.

It's not a lower faith. It's not a lower version of Christianity. It is a like precious faith. He's using the term faith to describe the Christian life. It's not just something that a Christian lives by. In fact, in the book of Acts, it was said that those who follow Jesus Christ were of the faith. They followed the persuasion of God's Spirit, which is what faith means. Believers follow the persuasion of God's Spirit, and they follow the Lord, but you can't see Him. So, they called the people "of the faith," or literally of the persuasion.

False prophets: Final thoughts for now

No one in hell will be happy to find out that the prophecies about it came true. Antichrist and the False Prophet and all the lost men and angels should be aware of their fate by now; yet scripture states that men will be deluded by demons to fight Christ; something no doubt taking the mark of the Beast already will have them conditioned to do. Much of the true prophecies resulted in death; Luke states Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. ( Luke 11:47).

Things didn't go too well for Isaiah or Jeremiah or most of the prophets. Nonetheless; in the end those on the Lord's side win.

While a true Prophet such as Christ as our best example suffers greatly and is largely rejected and cares for the sheep; the false prophets are the classic definition of a narcissist. The warnings of such individuals are designed to instill fear and exercise control over their subjects if not for financial reasons for the sake of power in being the "spokesman" for God. The name of Christ is often invoked in such individuals in order to attempt some sort of scriptural justification while naturally twisting the original meaning to suit their own selves.

Let us not set up any hardness in our heart; Hebrews 12:15 says Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled.. The passage goes on to talk about immorality tied in with Esau. Cults often are involved in sexual deviations.

In this whole lesson I have intermingled the concept of cults with false prophets. There seems to be much intersection of these actions and behaviors. We have to also be careful to avoid extrabiblical texts which exalt people to some sort of sainthood which apparently can be eliminated if the heirarchy seems fit to do so. An April 26, 2014 ABC report discussed 93 individuals who were technically reduced from that status.

Techniques of false prophets

Those who preach of the delusions of their own minds is mentioned in Jeremiah 14:14

Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

According to Webster's Dictionary divination is defined thus:

1: the art or practice that seeks to foresee or foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge usually by the interpretation of omens or by the aid of supernatural powers

2

: unusual insight : intuitive perception

Apparently the above scripture shows how easily our own hearts can conform with the stoking of the enemy in bringing about things that appear to come to pass at times. Clearly the easiest thing we can say is that any prophecy that DOESN"T come to pass clearly is from a false prophet. If it comes true then we need to discern whether the individual is truly of the Lord or a deceiver as mentioned in an earlier post and the warnings from the book of Deuteronomy.

If we think of the Lord for a minute; all things He does are beyond our comprehension; fulfilling prophecy is no more miraculous than his sustenance of our mortal bodies of flesh until the determined end in this life and sustaining our eternal souls in heaven if we are saved. God doesn't have to prove anything to Himself; and really doesn't have to prove anything to us either. Certain things are hidden ( Deut. 29:29) but those who are wise seek things out from Him. His predictions are for His purposes; whether bringing about the conditions necessary for His first or second arrival on earth as the Son of God or the fate of nations.

What is more important is spiritual realities; like mentioned earlier in the extensive passages about blessings and cursings; for instance seen in Deuteronomy 28 and numerous other places.

False Prophets:

The King of Israel as we started studying in the last posting died in the end attempting something the false prophets told him he would succeed in.

30 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, I will disguise myself, and enter into the battle; but put thou on thy robes. And the king of Israel disguised himself, and went into the battle.

31 But the king of Syria commanded his thirty and two captains that had rule over his chariots, saying, Fight neither with small nor great, save only with the king of Israel.

Thus Ahab met his end in a very strange manner being singled out and everyone else being left unharmed. This reminds us of another foolhardy campaign as we see in 2 Chronicles 35

20 After all this, when Josiah had prepared the temple, Necho king of Egypt came up to fight against Charchemish by Euphrates: and Josiah went out against him.

21 But he sent ambassadors to him, saying, What have I to do with thee, thou king of Judah? I come not against thee this day, but against the house wherewith I have war: for God commanded me to make haste: forbear thee from meddling with God, who is with me, that he destroy thee not.

22 Nevertheless Josiah would not turn his face from him, but disguised himself, that he might fight with him, and hearkened not unto the words of Necho from the mouth of God, and came to fight in the valley of Megiddo.

We see in this case a pagan nation invoking the name of God and correctly warning the King to stay out of this battle. In this case bad judgment seemed to only be the issue but perhaps the enemy was influencing the king; which is sad after all the good things Josiah did as one of the truly great kings mentioned in scripture.

We can't ignore the fact that many were influenced by the occult in wars. In fact we can see all 3 major players in World War 2 affected; from the worship of Hirohito as a god to Hitler's Ayrian race madness and Mussolini's cult like status.

False Prophets: Examples from the Old Testament

Forsaking the right way, they have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved gain from wrongdoing, ( 2 Peter 2:15).

Balaam was mentioned as a warning in the book of Jude as well as in Revelation 2:14 to the church of Pergamum which apparently did some of these practices. We note that divination was one of the things done as Joshua 13:22 states Balaam also, the son of Beor, the one who practiced divination, was killed with the sword by the people of Israel among the rest of their slain.

Thus we see the sobering end of such characters. We see another example of how a false spirit affects multiple people as we see in 1 Kings 22:18-23.

18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?

19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.

False Prophets: Deciever and being decieved.

"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived ( 2 Timothy 3:13).

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. ( Matthew 24:11).

As we get closer to the time of the end; and the approach of the Antichrist's appearance; more and more false prophecies will seem to be fulfilled. It is only expected that if a man deceives the whole world as Revelation 13:8 says And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Surely a false Messiah will appear to mirror many aspects of the true one; and reading Revelation shows how miraculous signs from heaven and most importantly an apparent restoration from death ( Revelation 13:3) after the deadly wound mentioned in Zechariah 11:17. The events of the first seal in Revelation 6:1 and also mentioned in the Daniel 9:27 passage and other verses from that book in particular show how he arises. It only takes a little homework to see that Islam teaches of an eventual 12th Imam who will arise and bring forth a time of peace; which echoes New Age; the Maitreya and other manifestations of a utopia believed to arrive after we have "evolved" to the next level.

For this study; I just pass through the final manifestation of evil on the earth in this age and will now focus on the false prophets of today as well as in the past to see characteristics. The first thing I would say is that a false prophet usually has false "profits". Titus 1:10-11 states For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. There are some who clearly are fleecing the flock for exorbitant living that are in megachurches; but other times cults will declare a vow of poverty but bilk funds.

False Prophecy: How does it work?

The concept of generational curses fits into a basic theme of scripture; as per warnings as we see in Deuteronomy 28:15-68 there are 53 verses as compared to 14 verses on blessings in the beginning of the chapter; a 4 fold increase in ramifications. Many such warnings are tied into worship of the false gods of the other nations in scripture and alternatively; abandoning the true God. Deuteronomy 5:9 states that Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,,,

but as we see in the next verse And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments. Thus; the ill effects of any omens or occult practices will be eliminated if someone is pursuing a true walk with God.

As we see false religions we see that they too have what are called prophetic sayings. If we look deeper we can see in worldwide religions a common theme; that of a primary or strongest God involved in some method of creation of the world; a story of giants and strange races of people in the distant past and finally some sort of apocalyptic ending to come. We also see the theme of generational records and how God brings teachers; prophets or sages in certain lineages; most commonly seen in Islam along with their more mystical hadiths as it were. The fact is; God also gave blessings to Ishmael; but that was in part because of Abraham's prayers but the covenant was made with Abraham (see Genesis 17 and 18:17-19 for reference). As we see with King David; God chose those least recognized son of Jesse (see 1 Samuel 16). The people had made the mistake of choosing a king for themselves with Saul and these scriptures explain his downfall as we see in 1 Samuel 16:7.

Thus we begin this study with how someone who is thrust into prominence becomes a false prophet.

Little children ye know the Father and yiur sins are forgiven. Praise the Lord . Your BORN again and have got out of Egypt and from the power of Pharaoh.

But we are meant to grow in grace and in the knowledge of zGod

There must be growth and development .

" Ye young men the Word of God dwelleth in you richly and you have overcome the wicked one "

Now that is something you dont hear much of !

But it is something that is desperately needed in the church today. Young men!

They key to overcoming the wicked one is to be filled not only with the Holy Spirit but also with the Word of Ood.

Jesus grew in stature and wisdom and you can be sure he studied and THOUGHT about the scriptures a lot .

Then He was filled with the Holy Spirit at His baptism.

Let it be understood that the eternal resting place of the Holy Spirit is the Word of God .

For the Spirit in the form of a dove rested upon Him .

Noah sent out a dove twice . Te first time it found no place of rest and returned to him who sent it .

The second time it found a place of rest and came back with a token of that rest .

So likewise in the Old Testement the Spirit of God came upon peopl but never abided . But in the New Testament it only found that eternal resting place but all who are in Christ who so honour the Word of God he " abideth with them forever ".

Thus Jesus was driven /led into the wilderness and tempted by the devil but overcame him by the Word of God " It is written" . But also by h he Spirit of God for is not the sword we have been given the Spoken Word ofGod?

So then the children of Isreal were ked into the wilderness to be tried or proved that they might know " that man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceedeth from the mouth of God "

The wilderness was to be boot camp!

Where they were to be transformed from slaves and no people to an army of Gods people .

Who lived and walked not y sight ut by faith in God.

To be continued .

Unless a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die it abideth alone . But if it die it brings forth much fruit. John 12;24

What sort of fruit? After its own kind .

Acorn or seed of wheat does not by some abstract or fanciful act produce the harvest . One seed produces another stalk of wheat which in turn has an ear of corn some with 30 ,60 or a hundred seeds. If they in turn are sown each corn of wheat will produce another 30 60 Ora hundred stalks of wheat . Which in turn if sown produce another 30 60 hundred etc etc etc etc etc .

The woman at the well went back into the city and out came a harvest

Joseph went into Egypt and out came over 2 million .

The original blessing of God first to Adam then to Abraham is one of multiplication .

Jesus being the One seed fell into the ground and died . There was a 150 in the upper room on the day of Pentecost and then ther3 was 3000 converted

The gospel preached and the numbers multiplied .

If you sow sparingly you will reap sparingly .

O what shall we liken the kingdom of God

If ye are Christs then are ye Abrahams seed ( one) and heirs according to the promise.

Jesus is The One seed from which if His are we afters His own kind .

And by their fruits shall you know them " The fruit is determined by the seed that is sown .

" The Word of God is the seed " a seed has this property it is not the fruit but I tha everything that is needed and nothing that is not needed to reproduce the fruit.

Add to the Word and you produce no fruit . Take from it and produce no fruit.

We are called to be sanctified unto God and let no corrupt communication Coe out of putouts .

He who sanctifieth and thry who are sanctified are one,

Truly Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life.

Gen.14.23 "Faith wiith works"

Satan disputed over Moses' body(Jude v.9) Abraham's passage to the ''city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God,' would have been ever fraught with Satan claiming credit for his largesse.

The encounter with Melchizedek is inserted in verses before.(14.18-20) In his refusal we see the enormity of Abraham's faith. It was hinged on the blessing that goes with the everlasting Covenant. It is what God promised to whosoever believed in the Covenant by faith and abided in Christ. "And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth."The heavenly blessings come from God the Father and the Word which was with God. This heaven and the earth is framed by the word of God.(Heb.11.3)

My testimony is that I have not taken a single thread or shoelatchet by 'Donate now'. Among the white Evangelical and ethnic minorites all they heard was my exposition of the Bible as inerrant. According to the counsel of the holy Spirit I served the Lord. St John referred to Christ,"He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. ( Jn 1.27) In my case I can only say I prefer abiding with Christ than cadge 'donations' from reprobate sons of perditions who founded a new Canaan over the first nations, Chinese coolies and cotton picking slaves and have invited wrath of God on themselves. Grace of God saved me from ever wanting their favours.Is it from pride? Oh no. I learned to be content as with Paul, in whatever circumstances I am. Amen.

Gen.14.23 "Faith with works" (1 of 2)

"And that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich."

Proof simple of any one blessed is what Abraham demonstrated in his short colloquy with the king of Sodom. It serves as a criteria what makes the difference with the temporal world and the world framed by the word of God. Abraham believed therefore it was counted to him for righteousness. On the other hand Gehazi reckoned,'Make hay while the sun shines'. Rather than let go worldly advantages he ran after Naaman received this rebuke, "And he said unto him, Went not mine heart with thee, when the man turned again from his chariot to meet thee? Is it a time to receive money, and to receive garments, and oliveyards, and vineyards, and sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and maidservants?"( 2 Kgs 5.26). Mind tou the double portion of the Spirit was from the Son as well as the spirit of Elijah as the double for the Word was with God. So the latter Spirit refers to his hold from the word of God. The indwelling Spirit is the Spirit shed on a believer according to the promise of God. Whosoever despises this world framed by the word of God is not blessed as the prosperity theology claim, from God but from the devil. Similarly in the Parable of the unforgiving Servant, the servant did not value the debt he owed, ten thousand talents simply because he got it cancelled. But he was loath to forgive his fellow servant that owed him a hundred pence. It is what Gehazi chose not to remember. He was afflicted with Naaman's leprosy. The windfall that the devil kickes in your way can be counted in dollars and cents. Along with it you are branded 6-6-6. This is the difference between the world of smoke and mirrors, the temporal world and the world framed by the word of God. Abraham would not touch even a thread or shoe latchet and forever is counted as recipient of devil's favours.

Rev.12. 15 "The flood"

"And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood." As a flood from the serpent certainly is not a blessing but a curse. From the preceding verse it is clear the time, times and a half is applied to Israel. In the woman cast out from her elevated position as the Mother of all living we have the left out church and Israel. There has to be further refining needed so the Vision of the 144,000 applied in Ch.7 recovers from them a remnant.

So what is the flood? The enemy has a way as the Lord has. Unlike the rivers of Shiloa, the flood of enemy opens the floodgates of lie and we see the signs of it. So much so there shall be a famine, not for th bread but for the word of God. Two millennia has merely created a surge and the heresies have created a tsunami and it has made hearts not steadfast lose whatever little they had. The enemy works with those who want God as well as mammon, Their ways side is neither here nor there."When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.:(Mt.13.19)The gospel of God shall again be preached. Rev.10. tells the little book that the Apostle was to eat and preach 'again', 'Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.(Rev.10.11) Here are two verses, "When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him."(Isa.59.19)b"The Lord sitteth upon the flood; yea, the Lord sitteth King for ever."(Ps.29.10)

So how does the earth help? God create behemoth along with man, "Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.( Job 40.15-24) He is under the leading of the angel of the waters,"And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord."(Rev.16.5)

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GBU for your kind thoughts. Amen,

Ps.84.5-7The river of God

"Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; In whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; The rain also filleth the pools. They go from strength to strength, Every one of them in Zion appeareth before God."

Quality of the River is in its gentle flowing water like Shiloa,(Gen.49.10).It passes through the valley of the shadow of death. The key verse conures up visually the quiet assuredness having the Good Shepherd by as in Psalm 23

The Spirit records the ark among the bulrushes from which baby Moses was lifted and he is set as a forerunner of the Prince of peace and he is synonymous with the river Shiloa. Contrast it with the waters of Noah whose ark significance is much more than that of Moses as a law giver. This ark looks forward to the ark of the testimony which St John sees in a vision, "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."(Rev.11.19) The river of God in short is the river of time either end marks time outside the frame of earth time. Thus when we speak of now it is set against the eternal will of the Father whose testimony to the natural world is, 'This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.'

Blessedness of abiding in Christ is that they go from strength to strength. That is what grace does. God commanded Moses to go forward,"And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest." Similarly the Son promises us, "And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.". This is the rest of God.(2 Cor.12.9) This river of God whose streams shall make the city of God glad because the Holy One is in midst of it.(Ps.46.4-5)

Rev.14.7 "Fountain of waters"

"And worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." The Bible gives us, river, streams water and the flood? What do the fountains signify? In the book of Genesis we read " the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened./And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights." Here we see the Father Son relationship both working in tandem. "My Father worketh hitherto, and I work".The key verse gives us the context and it is about the hour of judgement.so where it began with the old world Sodom Egypt shall lead to Jerusalem and Babylon. It works periodic cleansing and for this reason we have the angels with trumpets and with vials are given in series of sevens in the book of the Revelation." And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood."(Rev.16.4) This has been going on since civilisations began about the great rivers and what with Industrial revolution it has hit the panic button,and the 'drill, drill, drill' cry oil is not shooting up from the wells but from the water taps. Sin world has thus fouled their fountains of rivers with fracking and mining. "And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus./For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy." (vv.5-7) God has made them drink and one of the 10 plagues associated with Egypt falls under the judgment.

In Noah's case the rain lasted for forty days and nights. Judgment was according to the Word of God. (Gen.7.12) The Spirit also gives Noah's age as 6x100.. God found Noah as righteous before God. He is set as a double for his Son. The Ark he made has a certain volume and it gives every creature he took along, a certain volume of 'living space' does it not?

Dear Dddsam87, Sorry for the late reply, but I had to take some time to think about it. And there are so many nice people in here who pray for all people every day, night and hour. Even if they don't appear on the web. So don't believe anything else even if answers come late. But we have 1 who doesn't come too late. It's Jesus Christ, He who went through hell for our sake. When the Light of Jesus fills a heart, that light drives out fear, hatred, and all that is evil and sometimes everything bad. We are talking about Healing for spirit, soul and body. And it's wonderful to read that you started praying to God! And you see, do you think that you and I can change anything without having the Lord with us? When you prayed back then, to God and didn't really know who you were praying to. Then He was there. Still, isn't it nice? So that was the best and most natural thing you could come up with. What you are talking about is possession by evil spirits. As clear as day, they exist now as never before. Because when Jesus was here on earth, He did nothing else but cast out diseases and evil spirits from people, everyday.

So these are real issues.

What you can do for yourself is to get to know Jesus Christ through the Word of God. And personally I think you have to be a personal Christian. Be filled with the Holy Spirit. You will find here on the web page how to be saved, read the words loud and clear. And believe them If you are, you are safe. Sometimes you can talk to the spirits, and you need to know who you are dealing with. For example: Everything that is of evil Jesus Himself mentions in Matthew 15:19 Remember that the person in question knows nothing about it. You don't need to gape and scream. It is enough to say things like - Come out of her/him now, you blasphemous spirit, in the name of Jesus Christ. For in His Name He Himself says. HEhas all power in heaven and on earth. Jesus has allpower. AllspiritsareafraidofHim.

2 Peter 3:9 Hebrews 4:14-16 Joh 8:12 Acts 2:38

My wife a few years ago we were in the kitchen of her grandmas house since then I work and pay all the bills but I heard a voice come out of her that wasn't her that said get out I grabbed her by the hand and we went to the storage room and I began to pray to God for the first time in front of her I asked God to please take the angels that he had for me to give them to her and a friend of ours that died a few months later began to talk through her to me and at the end of the conversation there was a tear in her eye that fell down im not making none of this up I promise u...I need to talk to u bout the kingdom please but after this I basically dragged her around town till her grandma got out of church that evening and once I told her what happened she called her pastor and he come by and I stood between her and two preachers that began to cast out demons out of her I remember laying on top of her and telling them to go back to hell remember that I have never been open bout my faith to any of them if u want the whole story for the next couple of years we need to talk i can't type it all but I began to talk to spirits through her for the next year I got clean during this time for 4 months than began to do meth again and the spirits began to talk still i know that in the Bible it talks about the kingdom of GOD coming once u cast demons out idN what to think its been years and its been silent from the other side im clean for a year working and taking care of my wife and 4 kids im working making 20 a hr good job but im fighting in my mind everyday and have no one to talk too please help

Agreed, Mother Mac.

As believers we are to love Christ's church, His body and bride. We are to have an attitude of being helpful and uplifting to others. I pray with you that this attitude and approach to discussion will prevail here.

Hi again Just want to remind you in all the time we don't have, that your reference to scriptures here has rules on how they should glow red. So that we can see scriptures without looking them up. You ref. to John:51-56 it is not in the King James, at least not in mine. When you mention the time when Jesus rebuked his disciples because they did not know what spirit they were of. So it says in Luke 9:54. Thank you for your attention. And may the Lord Jesus give us light as the day is.

ps. it's easier to read you now, thanks. Exodus 12:29-30

Please stay calm in Jesus name.

May God Bless us All!

One thing I have enjoyed about this site is that in the discussions,

everyone shows respect for others opinions.

It is my prayer that this kindness shall prevail.

Romans 14:19

"Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another."

Galatians 6:9

"And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not."

Matthew 5:16

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

Let Love Abide !

May God Bless us All!