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Sanctification.

Part 3.

What God does in sanctification is give us more of Himself. He is the gift of the fullness of our salvation.

2) Sanctification Is Not Works Righteousness

I have an acquaintance from Knoxville, Tennessee, who was a senior pastor at a Presbyterian Church. He participated in a prayer summit and came to know Christ during that time. Strange, right? A man in the pulpit, teaching God's Word, and by his own testimony, God brought the revelation of Jesus during that prayer summit.

If it can happen to a Presbyterian minister, it can also happen to you.

Until a person knows Jesus, the kind of joy, happiness, and holiness we've described is impossible. Minister James H. Aughey said, "Holiness is not the way to Christ; Christ is the way to holiness."

Entire sanctification is not an achievable goal but a gift to be received. Like justification, sanctification is the gracious gift of God received by faith.

"I have continually testified in private and in public that we are sanctified as well as justified by faith. And indeed, one of those great truths does exceedingly illustrate the other. Exactly as we are justified by faith, so are we sanctified by faith. Faith is the condition, and the only condition, of sanctification, exactly as it is of justification. It is the condition: None is sanctified but he that believes; without faith, no man is sanctified. And it is the only condition: This alone is sufficient for sanctification. Everyone that believes is sanctified, whatever else he has or has not. In other words, no man is sanctified till he believes: Every man when he believes is sanctified." John Wesley.

We see very clearly in the writings of Wesley that this is a faith based upon Scripture. He also maintained that he was preaching no new doctrine but simply recovering an old doctrine that the Church had long forgotten. With great zeal, Wesley and the early Methodists obeyed God's call "to spread Scriptural holiness over the land.

See Part 4.

Sanctification.

Part 4.

3) Sanctification Is The Gift of Being Perfected In Love.

"Entire sanctification, or Christian perfection, is neither more nor less than pure love; love expelling sin and governing both the heart and life of a child of God. The Refiner's fire purges out all that is contrary to love, and that many times by a pleasing smart. Leave all this to Him that does all things well, and that loves you better than you do yourself." John Wesley, Letters to Mr. Walter Churchey, of Brecon

How is one sanctified? Wesley often had to defend this doctrine against charges of preaching some form of works righteousness.

"It is thus that we wait for entire sanctification; for a full salvation from all our sins, from pride, self-will, anger, unbelief; or, as the Apostle expresses it, 'go on unto perfection.' But what is perfection? The word has various senses: Here it means perfect love. It is love excluding sin; love filling the heart, taking up the whole capacity of the soul. It is love 'rejoicing evermore, praying without ceasing, in everything giving thanks.'" John Wesley, Sermon 43, The Scripture Way of Salvation.

To take on God's character is to take on a heart at peace.

To take on God's character is to take on a Spirit of joy.

To take on God's character is to take on Love. And not just any love, but the endowment of perfect love and the abiding fullness of the Holy Spirit.

When Christ comes into your life, He takes your dead spirit and makes it alive. Therefore, faith in Christ is not merely your arrival but your new beginning in a new world.

Why do we say that sanctification makes us blameless, not faultless? Because the Grace of God working in us does not make us infallible. Sin has so perverted our moral and spiritual powers that we shall never in this present life be free from the infirmities of human nature.

The only perfection possible on earth is the perfection of love.

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Sanctification.

Part 5.

Salvation, which is when you come to know Jesus Christ, is only the beginning of our Christian journey.

Sanctification: being made or becoming holy. To sanctify is to literally be set apart for particular use in a special purpose or work.

What is Sanctification?

Sanctification Is The Gift of the Fullness Of Your Salvation

Sanctification Is Not Works Righteousness

Sanctification Is The Gift of Being Perfected In Love.

Written By Rev. Paul Lawler.

Giannis

One of the Quakers beliefs, Rom 8:14 a continuous revelation of God's will; correct!

This is the 2nd time you admonish me to pay attention, ok; lets look at the Scripture you refer too!

Gal 1:15-17 "call me by His Grace, to reveal His Son in me" Which is John 1:9 Titus 2:11 God spiritual appearance within him, both Scriptures says to "ALL MANKIND" so everyone has this experience, which is fulfilling 2Cor 4:6

What was Paul doing in Arabia? Living & working just like we do, its in our everyday ordinary experiences in life that God works out His great salvation, the sanctification of the Spirit unto obedience & sprinkling of the Blood/Life of Jesus within us, which is the washing of regeneration & renewing in the Holy Spirit, as we seek to be led by the Spirit of God everyday to know His holy will. Matt 6:11 the revelation of Jesus Christ, diffusing the fragrance of His knowledge in "EVERY HEART".

Friend, your missing out on your personal revelation of Jesus Christ unto you! That you may experience 1John 1: 1-4

2Thess 3:9 for them to follow their examples requires them to be enlighten & empowered by the same Power that they themselves walk in, though everyone doesn't walk in the same measure of the Power, according to their calling within His body. 1Cor12:18

This answers your opinion, what are the ministries for?

I, by no means are saying that God has not a purpose for these gifts that He has given, but they must be subjugated in their proper places. 1Cor12:25 is this case in the government structure of today's Christianity? No, by no means!

Christ is the Head, who speaks directly to the whole body. John 1:9 Titus 2:11 1John 2:27 Isa 54:13 John 16:13 Hebrews 8:10,11 which happens in our everyday ordinary life experiences in relationships, works etc; that God maybe Col 1:18

In Love & Truth

I am starting to study the Spiritual Gifts. The only ones that I can find are listed in I Corinthians 12:1-9. Does anyone have any other findings in the King James Version on the Spiritual Gifts?

Hello LaNora. The way that I read Psalm 90:2, is that even before God formed the Earth (i.e. the physical parts of the Earth) and the World (i.e. the inhabitable parts of the Earth; cf Nahum 1:5)), God is a God Who lives in eternity. That is, God was always present even before He determined that the worlds (the universe) would be created by Him. So, I don't read that verse in Psalm 90:2 as God forming an everlasting or eternal concept, rather that He is a God Who is without beginning & without end, because He is a God Whose eternal Presence demands that space & time have no ends (or limits) in eternity. For us humans, space & time are observable & we live according to its limitations & impositions upon us. But God ever exists within all of space & time, so that neither can control Him, rather He is the Creator & Sustainer of all things within those dimensions.

Awesome, thanks I really appreciate it. Jesse was a huge help too. God bless & be with y'all

Hey guys my name is Andrew and my testimony description isn't a comfortable one.

At about 16 or 17 yrs old I was constantly having a strong urge to curse, blaspheme and disrespect God and anything about him. I followed Satan and did a lot of bad things to myself and others. I soon decided that doing what I was doing tearing up scripture, burning bibles wasn't the life I wanted. I became so evil I could not sit or be inside a church without my eyes burning. A few yrs later I had an urge to go to church again and that Sunday morning was sitting with the congregation and as the pastor gave the best sermon I have ever heard I felt jesus's hand on my shoulder then seconds later I rose out of my seat and walked to the alter and accepted christ as lord and saviour of my life after spending the first part of my life following Satan I ran Jesus's open arms and he led me through the right path.

Anyone that thinks the devil controls their life will continue with it unless you come to realize Jesus Christ is God and nothing will stand in his way if someone wants to go to him. Tell Jesus everything give him everything we owe him our lives.

13"....;HE SHALL LIE ALL NIGHT BETWIXT MY BREASTS.

I translate those words into a prayer inviting Christ to dwell in the very midst of my heart as a fragrant odor, as an encouragement for my spirit to keep my mind on the things above, and as a refreshment to draw from for the new day to walk in, for each day has its own evil to contend with.

I am so thankful for help of the Holy Spirit as He leads me in the way that God would have me go... In Jesus' Name I pray...Amen.

Bless you all in Christ!!!

It most definitely did, thank you so much.! How you explained the splinter/beam analogy was awesome. I had never heard it put that way, Amazing.! I knew about 1 Cor 2 yet obviously took it the wrong way and I will use this or yours, if I may, about being a 'fruit inspector'..lol. Yes, I've read we are to take any concern of wrong doing in an order by talking to said person (which rarely works) 1st then to the church. I learned Proverbs 25:8-9 first hand that "If you take your neighbor to court, do not betray another's confidence, 10 or the one who hears it may shame you & the charge against you will stand". Because my daughters dad twisted everything. So now I can say first hand why Acts 5:29 says "We must obey God not man". The pain is far worse doing it mans way. I think it was 1 Cor 4:4 that gave me the idea we had the right to judge spiritually so obviously learned it wrong as well. Your a blessing, thank you Jesse. Was fixen to get back on here yet getting a job 3rd shift so may not. God bless & be w/you and yours.!

I don't think you have properly understood my question.

Thanks.

1 Corinthians 6:1-3 indicates that we should judge things within the Body of Christ rather than taking each other to court (secular). That is something that I wish I had investigated sooner when it came to my own divorce; namely Biblical separation and counseling which I only availed myself of after the divorce itself. Not too many talk of this aspect; but we make a vow to God with witnesses and a Pastor; shouldn't the church be at least involved in these decisions? That is a whole other matter; as I personally don't believe in divorce and remarriage when a spouse is still alive which my church at the time wasn't holding to as an essential doctrine.

Anyway that example shows me how disjointed we are in general with the lives and actions of those who have committed themselves to Christ (with the New Covenant scripturally); as well as with a public statement of faith for church membership.

Our actions affect ourselvs; our children but also others who we fellowship with. It seems that a lack of judgment is a bigger problem today; with very few admonishing others; or building one another up as iron sharpens iron today.

Another issue is that we see a symptom with a person's behavior but not necessarily the root causes. It reminds me of a lady today in a personal care facility who was very testy and had a few unseemly words to say in anger; but admitted that she was going through spiritual attack and responded well in prayer; and was willing to seek forgiveness. As with anything else we cannot change anyone; merely explaining the problem isn't enough; the Spirit must work in the person; or through us to convict the soul of the individual. We also run the risk of focusing on someone's eccentricities (such as an annoying personality) and can judge something as sinful when it really isn't. As others stated we need to show the love of Christ; those who are His children will sense when we are genuine in concern. Hope some of this helps outta room!!!

The Gospel preached to Abraham, for our sake.

Romans 4:19-25.

And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:

He staggered not at the PROMISE of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

And being fully persuaded that, what he had PROMISED, he was able also to perform.

And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

NOW IT WAS NOT WRITTEN FOR HIS SAKE ALONE, that it was imputed to him;

BUT FOR US ALSO, TO WHOM IT SHALL BE IMPUTED, if we BELIEVE ON HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS OUR LORD FROM THE DEAD;

Who was delivered for OUR OFFENCES, and was raised again for OUR JUSTIFICATION.

Galatians 4:28

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of PROMISE.

Galatians 3:29

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians 3:16-19.

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by PROMISE.

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

CONCLUSION

Galatians 3:27-29.

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Genesis 22:18.

God bless.

Texsis, 2/2

So the problem is not seeing my brothers fault, we must be blind not to see it. But with what intention do I see it? To condemn or to correct? Without love there can be no help to them.

And one final thing. It is better not to see my brother's fault at all if that can cause a problem/judgement in my heart for him. Let it go, don't think about it at all. Mainly we must protect our hearts from wrong doing, like judgement. If I can not carry a load, let's not carry it at all.

GBU

Hello Texsis, 1/2

Some thoughts of mine about judging our brothers and sisters..

1. Jesus calls a hypocrite one who judges his brother. Why? Because obviously he does the same. So it is clear that we should not judge the others for things we do as well. And we usually do that all of us, dont we? Like eg the people who brought that woman who was doing adultery and asked Jesus if they should stone her. What did Jesus say to them? "The one who is without sin let him stone her". Nobody was left behind at the end, because they were all doing the same thing, maybe not with their body but definitely with their spirit. This is hypocrisis. By the way the word judgement here has the meaning of judging someone in order to condemn him.

2. Often I have found out that when I am very strict about my brother's behavior, then God passes me through the same path, under the same conditions. And what do I see? I see that my behavior is often worse than what I saw my brother doing. So to be able to judge rightly one must understand the conditions his brother is under, to be in his shoes. And when he realizes how hard those conditions are then he acts with mercy. We all wish others to show mercy to us about our faults, don't we?

3. Probably the best explanation I have heard so far about this commandement is the following.

What is the beam in our eyes that hinders our spiritual sight? The most common answer is our faults, weaknesses, etc which are bigger than my brothers, right? But what I have heard is that that beam is the judgment/condemnation itself. If I see my brother with eyes ready to condemn him for what he has done, then I cannot help him at all. But when I remove that beam/judgment/condemnation from my eyes and instead look at him with love then I can help him to see his fault and correct himself. I can see my brothers fault in both cases but I can not help him to remove his fault when I condemn him, instead I can help him being a better person when with love I help him.

GBU

In 1 Corinthians 1:23-24 Paul says "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Those verses I posted describes what Christ crucified means and the result of that preaching.

Justification and Sanctification by way of the Holyspirit.

No spirit filled Christian should have a problem with this preaching.

It's what the Apostles preached.

Paul also says in 1 Corinthians 1:18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Thanks Brothers David and Jesse.

I left out one of my favorites.

Titus 3:3-7.

For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

God bless.

Greetings Scotty, Romans 1:16 is Paul announcing he is ready to proclaim what Jesus wanted Paul to relay to us.

At that time is "the transition" to include all us gentiles = of all nations was in play.

Romans = doctrine

As Paul progresses in order in his gospels with doctrine Reproof & correction mixed in..

Note: We are truly justified in Romans 3:24-26 equals Gods free gift!

(Please also note Ro. Chapters 9/10/11 where Paul is speaking to his brethren/ Israelites/ at that present time beseeching them & only them to perform Ro. 10:9 as we know praying is a work & how the Jews at that present time in their life THEY would be accepted by The Lord. Some of that (rightly dividing of course) is for both!

Scotty as you read God inserts into the reader his understanding bc God knows who is serious & who is not. God knows the beginning to the end and the end to the beginning!

Knowing that God is a God of order & the simplicity in Christ Jesus!

Jesus tells us to follow Apostle Paul & His "establishment commandment." Romans 16:26 Thus, we read daily starting in Romans & when we are done for that day take a tassel & mark that ( where we will begin to read the next day) & do our daily business

Later, we read again in Genesis & when done tassel that page. So, each day we continue this (and will read Ro to Rev.) many times more as we progress through the scriptures of the prophets

Then when we completed Acts, "Proclaiming God wins and the devil loses"! Restarting the same process again

That's Gods Establishment Commandment!

Also, Romans through Revelation guides us in what's going on these days. Example Romans 1:27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Thus read Ecclesiastes 1:9

Asking for strong protection and breakthrough for us and all in need. Lord Jesus please fight our battles ( Ex. 14:14).

Amen David & Greetings!

Knowing that God is a God of order & the simplicity in Christ Jesus & Jesus tells us to follow Apostle Paul & His establishment commandment.

Thus, we read daily starting in Romans & when we are done for that day take a tassel & mark that ( where we will begin to read the next day) & do our daily business

Later we read again in Genesis & when done tassel that page. Romans 16:26 so each day we continue this (and will read Ro to Rev.) many times more as we progress through the scriptures of the prophets

Then when we completed Acts, "Proclaiming God wins and the devil loses"! Restart the same process again

I had alway wondered why there were 2 tassels for years & that is why

We are truly justified in Romans 3:24-26 equals Gods free gift! (Please also note Ro. Chapters 9/10/11 where Paul is speaking to his brethren/ Israelites/ at that present time beseeching them & only them to perform Ro. 10:9 and know praying is a work & how the Jews at that present time in life THEY would be accepted by The Lord.

Many publishers like Gideon's for example had in the beginning of there book (1941-1958) where to find Salvation also listed Romans 3:24-26 !!! Then satan got more involved derailing souls to Ro. 10:9 in 1960's until present day! 2023.

My soul would be damned doomed for leading you wrongly

1 Corinthians 16:22

If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

Luke 17:2

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Hopefully David, you do understand I wouldn't be with my brothers & sisters in Christ and in His Kingdom later in time, if i was leading any soul wrongly

The writing of Paul's gospels = Doctrine Reproof and correction

Romans doctrine Corinthians doctrine with reroof & correction and such

Being only one writing to the Galatians & not knowing how many of them are above!

Falling away

David,

I have prayed for you and your family today.

Thank you Mr. Spencer for those beautiful verses. God says it so much better than we ever could.

Praise God, for so great salvation!!

Adam,

I would suggest, Adam, that it is impossible for someone who has become "Born Again" to continue in a lifestyle of sin as you have described. Why?

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Read again the verses that Mr. Spencer quoted. The Miracle of l the New Birth is an action that God takes in applying Salvation to our life. It is not the result of any action that we take, or any Work that we do. And once we have become Born Again we will have a "want to" in our Soul to do the will of God and to be obedient to the Law of God and we will Grow in Grace.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

And we are no longer "under the Law" in the sense that Christ has paid the full penalty demanded by the Law for every sin that we have and will ever commit and has freed us from bondage to sin and Satan that was our condition before Christ saved us.

And he will complete our salvation at the Last Day by giving us our resurrected, spiritual body, in which we will live and reign with Christ forever more in the new heavens and a new earth. 1 Corinthians 15.

the chiefpriest discussed with there elders about jesus and then they decided to bring him to pilates and when they where there pilates said if he was de king of jews and then they said that he said it and then the chief priest accused jesus of alot of things

and he did not say anything then pilate asked Jesus and he did not awnser and then pilate said unto the people wich one should i let free Jesus or barabus they awnserd barabus and he then said what should i do to him and then they said for him to get crucifyd and he asked the same question again and they anwserd the same for him to get crucifyd and then pilates said what evil has he done and they did not reply they where shouting for him to be crucifyd and then the soldiers led him away they put a crown of thorns on his head they clothe him with purple clothes and then he got mocked and smote his head with a reed and then they removed the purple clothes and put him his own clothes on and when he was carrying the cross somebody came and help him carry it and then he was crucifyd with 2 other thieves and then the veil of the temple was teared from top to bottom and then when jesus died they gave the body to joseph and he wrapped him in fine linen and put him on top of a sepulchre

please remember me and my family today in your prayers

Brother Spencer,

Those are some very powerful verses you've shared. Salvation is of the Lord!

Thank you!!!

Texsis,

(Part 2)

Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:3-5 about the splinter and the beam.



This was carpenters terms from out of His father Joseph's carpenter shop. Now if you can imagine this, that if you take a toothpick and you held it up to your eye, it looks like a beam. But if you hold it up to someone else's eye, it looks like a splinter. But you see, they are both the same.



So Jesus said to them (Jewish Leaders) in Verses 3 to 5, why do you behold the splinter in your brother's eye when you have a beam in your own?



How are you going to say to your brother let me pull out the splinter in your eye, and you have a beam that is in your own? You hypocrite, first cast out the beam from your own, and then shall you see clearly to cast out the splinter out of your brother's eye.



Many of us have heard that before, but please take notice in Verse 5 that it's only (after) the beam is removed from your eye that you are able to go to your brother about the removal of the splinter in his own.



Jesus is saying this, and it is all a reference to the law and salvation. So, here is a Jew under the law, going out and judging other people according to the law, and he is not even saved!



In 1 Corinthians Chapter 2, Paul says that the spiritual man judges all things. Why? Because he has the Spirit of Christ.



In 1 Corinthians Chapter 6, Paul talked about Christians taking other Christians to court. He says don't you have any wise men amongst you that can judge these things?



We are supposed to be judging. Judgment is supposed to begin at the house of God, and we have a responsibility.

I hope this helps some? Blessings to you in Christ Jesus!

Hello, Texsis,

I have actually had someone use Matthew 7:1 on me before. They said "don't judge me. The Bible says judge not lest ye be judged."

If there's one verse most nonbelievers know, it's this one. How do we respond to that? I can share with you what my response was. I responded by saying, "yes, the Bible does say judge not lest ye be judged," but it also says ye shall know them by their fruit. So, I'm not judging you brother, but I am a fruit inspector.

Here is my understanding of Matthew 7:1-5 which gives us the correct understanding of judgment. And Verse 1 is also the principle for the whole chapter. Judge not, that ye be not judged.



Well, how many times has someone told you that, or you have told other people, "don't judge me, I'm not under the law, I am under grace?"

For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged: and with what measure you mete out, it will be measured back to you again.



This is the same thing that Paul said in Romans Chapter 2 Verse 1. Paul says, you are inexcusable oh man, whoever is judging another because you condemn yourself; for you that judges another person, you do the same things.

That is an insight to judging. You see, I judge other people for committing my sins. And I am very merciful to people who commit sins that are not mine.



That is what it is saying. I see you committing my sins, and I am harsh on you. But somebody can come along who is a serial bank robber and I might say "Oh lets have mercy on him." Let's witness to him. But if they commit my sins, they are in big trouble!



If you stop and think about that for a moment, the next time you see someone committing an act of sin and what your reaction is to what this person is doing, it all make sense as to what this is saying.



I am running out of space but would like to share my understanding of Verses 3-5 with you.

I will send a (Part 2).

Ezekiel 36:26-27.

a new heart also will i give you, and a new spirit will i put within you: and i will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and i will give you an heart of flesh.

and i will put my spirit within you, and ( cause ) you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.