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Hi Thomas.

I would like to second our brother Chris, It would take a powerful force to restraint the work of Satan,

1 John 4:3-4. And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN YOU, THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.

We witness the same restrainer mentioned here in our lives, in our everyday walk in this world.

I think it's not just Satan will turn up his activity, those left behind will be more receptive.

Nolonger equipped with the armor as mentioned in Ephesians 6.

Thanks, Chris,

It's interesting about Gadara being the center of pagan and demonic worship in that region. It was the most active place in the inhabitable world back then for demonic activity and worship. In their demon worship, they sacrificed pigs. I used to wonder why those pigs were there.

The demonic man cutting himself with stones is interesting. He wasn't just doing that because he was under a demonic spirit and trying to destroy himself. That was part of the pagan worship. You cut yourself, and you offer the blood to the demons. What an awful circumstance!

I would say that this is in the category of this man can't help himself. And Mark has told us that nobody else can help him either. It is beyond human ability. But it seems that the demons in this man cause him to come and just fall right before Jesus. The demons weren't worshipping. They were acknowledging that they were in the presence of God.

The confession of the demon speaking through the man in Mark 5:7, "What have we to do with you?" In other words, we have nothing in common! Notice the confession: "Jesus, thou Son of the most high God." They make the proper confession. They confess the truth about who Jesus is, they know who He is, but it doesn't save them!

Verse 10, the demon appealed to Jesus not to send them away out of the country because it was the center of demonic activity and they didn't want to go anywhere else. This is where all the action is. The demon didn't want to leave. He says "Don't send us out of the country!"

These people that lost their whole herd of swine come and see the man that was possessed who is now in his right mind. Mark 5:15 says they were afraid. You can see why. They weren't afraid because of what they saw. They weren't real happy about all this "deliverance" going on. They were afraid because of what's going to happen to their demon worship? They were afraid of Jesus because Verse 17 says they appealed to Jesus to depart from their coasts. Very interesting!

1 Corinthians 7, says to get married. If you don't want to marry the man you're with...but do hope to get married some day... I hope your someday husband isn't sleeping around too. See the thought?

We have to follow Jesus on the narrow road. Sexual impurity is a ditch. You know to do right, but you are stuck in this ditch of compromise.

Climb out, chin up, and have that conversation with your guy and find out once and for all, if he's your forever husband or not.

I know this sounds so harsh and I do not mean to hurt your feelings. I do understand. Many of us have been in that ditch. I can say with great conviction that following Jesus brings great joy in the end. I'll pray for you tonight.

Chris, When I was a new Christian (born again) and before my marriage I had a year and a half of what I thought was a successful separation of willing sin in my life until one day I fell. As far as I know I never so it coming. It was like in one second I decided to return to my old life. Within a few hours I realized how far I had fallen and wanted repentance and restoration and yet my flesh was re-awakened. Satan attacked this little lamb and really it was the help of the brethren particularly elders that helped me return to the fold. I was outwardly separated by the Church as it was proven that my sin was too grievous until I had found forgiveness. This was lovingly and carefully done with me. The desire to be restored in the brotherhood was immediate but I had to fight my flesh for several months. Finally I persevered turned from the sin and found forgiveness from Jesus and had the peace of the Holy Spirit again leading my life. Soon thereafter I was restored in the church at a different location due to work than the one where I was separated from (there was communication between the two regarding my repentance experience). I learned that Satan is always ready to devour and Jesus and his bride are always ready to restore. Within a year and a half of this experience I was married in the Lord and have had the grace to remain faithful from willing sin till this day many years later. I am not sure how it would have gone if I had not had the brethren by their very lives of peace and joy before me to convict me enough that I could not stay in deception and feed my flesh. When my brethren first found out of my fall which I immediately brought forward my loving elder told me in simple words "first things first" and I knew what he meant, no excuses. I had been once bought for a price and I needed to honor that commitment to Jesus and his bride again at any cost to my pride and for for my eternal life to be continued in Him.

2 Thessalonians 2:6,7: "And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."

The Apostle Paul had spoken about this matter to the Corinthians earlier (2:5), so they knew what Paul was referring to & had a fuller understanding of this narrative, but it has been kept hidden from us. As a result, there has been much conjecture as to who or what this 'restrainer' is.

It has been suggested that it is some prominent individual (whether in the Church or in the World), but we know not of anyone who fulfils this position or holds such power to prevent the incarnate Devil from appearing.

Another suggests that it is civil government with its administrations that bring cohesiveness through laws to unify a country in its diversity. That these would be eroded over time (as we even see now), where laws & permissions are given that are becoming increasingly anti-Christian, anti-biblical, when it would be easy for a civil authority to fall under the supreme control of a one-world dictator, lending them full support.

And yet others see the Church in these verses: that the Holy Spirit is the One, Who by indwelling His people, remains as the great restrainer against the tide of evil. If the Spirit "is taken out of the way", so must the Church (the Body of believers) be removed, as it would be an impossible & unbiblical position to hold, that a believer could ever remain as such on the Earth without the indwelling Spirit. I tend to follow this belief as the most tenable but as always, open to other opinions which might shed more light.

That's a great assessment- the soul seat of our emotions and the spirit working together. My testimony is this the scripture The Lord gave me when I was afflicted in my body. I kept healing scriptures before me, but this one scripture showed me that He cares about my situation and that He was EAGER to heal me. Surely it happened but I now see this scripture in a different light. He is a source of life and love. He doesn't come to condemn us but to set us free.

hi everyone. im really scared. i dont know whats going on with me. i never been through anything like this in my life. i need prayer and lots of healing. thank you!

That was a timely clarification brother. I thought to myself, 'surely this can't be our dear brother Jesse writing the figure 6 instead of the actual greater number'. And that was interesting to note that those swine were raised primarily for devilish sacrifices & the connection with the demons desiring to inhabit the swine. Thank you.

I must reply with a question, in reverse: would the 'Christian' living in fornication actually be a part of His bride? There are too many today who believe they are Christians going to Heaven (whether from their own imaginations or false teaching), yet they resemble the world of the sin-ridden, rather than the Holy Spirit infilled children of God.

"God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting." Galatians 6:7,8.

"but (the Lord) is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9.

Paul's stern word is to: "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" 2 Corinthians 13:5.

So hope remains to the misguided 'Christian' that he or she may turn from sin now, truly repent & seek the abundant forgiveness of the Lord. "Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon." Isaiah 55:6,7.

Hi Cary, at the personal response level, you're quite correct in saying that repaying evil for evil doesn't make one any better than the perpetrator. However, we also need to study the Scripture & context.

Jesus, in Matthew 5:38,39, was referring to the Old Testament commandments that God gave ( Exodus 21:24, Leviticus 24:20, Deuteronomy 19:21). These directions were given for the proper judicial outcomes when God's Laws were disobeyed. So if it was found (by confession, by clear evidence or by witnesses) that a murder had taken place, then it was the proper judgement to mete out similar punishment as the crime. And this applied to a whole variety of offences, but such judgement was in the domain of the judges.

What was happening amongst the Jews in Jesus' day, was that those Scriptures were being applied to personal vengeance & retribution. The classic case is found in John 8:3-11, with the woman being accused of adultery to which the law required death. We see three things here: it was the religious leaders that demanded & would oversee the stoning rather than her going through an official judicial process (The Jewish Sanhedrin or the Roman Govt, depending on the crime). The person who should have cast the first stone (a large stone to the head to kill or bring to near death the criminal, & then others with smaller stones casting them at the lifeless body) failed to come forward. Jesus Word brought conviction: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Fortunately for the woman, the leaders & the people realized that they were sinners, as she was, & were not entitled to administer punishment. And since none accused her, the matter was dropped & didn't make it to the judiciary.

So the "eye for an eye" rule was not to be carried out by the people filled with anger, set upon vengeance, but from a legally constituted system (though they too could have erred in judgement). Likewise, we too, cannot repay evil with evil rather with good.

Penny Bell,

I typed six thousand in my post. I am not sure why this website changed it to six. But where you see 6 soldiers, it is supposed to read six thousand soldiers. Also, it should read six thousand demons, not six. Maybe the website didn't like the comma after the six with three zeros, I'm not sure? Anyways, I wanted to point that out because I do not want to be misleading on the word legion.

I think the writer has no meaning on that but to just mention the name nabal's just to specify the subject who is Abigail

what does Accept no person against thy soul mean

Hello S Spencer, Thank you. I can barely use an ipad must less a phone for communication. My wife however is a natural. I am happy that you had a safe road trip and can rest at home again. I appreciate your Biblical instructions in the way and the manner of such. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and they can even appear at different times in a day.

God bless this run that we are in.

Is it not a run of sanctification because of His continued love?

Carleton

If Jesus comes to get His bride in the Catching away and you are living in fornication will Jesus take us

Atlantis

I love you heavenly father with all my heart mind soul and strength amen

I have a prayer request. I was following the religion of Islam but I converted back into Christinity. Please pray for me.

Thank you!! :)

Nope, completely defenseless, but the Word is my life.

:)

Penny Bell,

A legion refers to 6,000 soldiers. This man in Mark Chapter 5 had 6,000 demons. And it was those demons that asked that if Jesus was to cast them out of the man that they would be allowed to enter into the herd of swine.

Now here is something interesting to know. These are a special kind of pig. They raised these pigs, and they were all black pigs, and they used them for demonic sacrifice.



If you study through the history of the Jews, you'll find that down through the history, when Antiochus Epiphanies came in and actually desecrated, or defiled the temple, he sacrificed a pig on the altar.



Leviticus Chapter 7 Verse 11 says that the pig is unclean to the Jews. But these are not Jews. These are Gentiles, and they are demon worshipers. And they raised these pigs for their worship.

So it is interesting and it sort of gives you an indication as to why these demons would ask permission to enter those pigs, and why Jesus allowed it!

Who/What Restrains the antichrist

Does God love us more than those who came before us? From Pentecost to now, have we become more holy or more worthy that we should be spared from what all the believers in Christ had to endure that came before us? The body of Christ in the past have been stoned, beheaded, crucified, impaled and dipped in oil, lit as lamps along roadsides, burned at the stake, fed to lions, killed by gladiators, and tortured beyond imagination. Inflicted by kingdoms, empires, and countries throughout history even by the Roman Catholic Church, and is still going on. Do we think the end times will be worse than they have had to endure?

Why should the last generation be spared? "Take heed that no man deceive you"!

The great tribulation and the wrath of God, are not the same thing. We will be spared the wrath of God, but we have been promised tribulations, the wrath of God is after the second coming of Christ when there is no more repentance.

Acts.14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Matthew 24:21,29 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Out of love, Ron

what is divine election?

King James tried to make the Bible available to common lay people, so they could read it themselves, rather than have a priest tell them what he thought about it.

Key this into Google: King James Bible history

(tip: skip Wikipedia. They aren't Bible Scholars)

Bringing the KJV Bible to the public, cost many lives. They were captured and burned publically at the stake for this crime. Remember those that paid the ultimate cost.

For some, their Bibles are in a closet gathering dust; some Bibles are taken to goodwill with other old books. Or they sit on a spotless side table for show; not being read daily.

King James paid dearly for this atrocity against "the Church". Bible smuggling was huge at that time in History. Our Lord Jesus commanded us, GO YE into all the World... and ordinary monks and people did that! Praise God.

The King James Bible has less errors than any other version of the Bible. It's an original: not interpreted, simplified or paraphrased. I'm not saying all other Bibles are not correct to use. No way.

What IS important, is the Bible that is INSIDE OF YOU. How MUCH Bible have you ingested into your mind, heart and immortal soul. It cant grow up big unless you feed (read) it every day.

I read big chunks every day because I love to follow the stories; the progress of events. Yes it means I have to turn off the tv so I can concentrate. Less tv qualifies as a FAST unto the Lord. It's as hard to fast from food, as it is to silence the tv. Proclaim the fast and make it count. Set phones to vibrate only.

We all have to know that Satan doesn't want us to actually read our Bibles. That's why I often read Bible OUT LOUD, so Satan and his creepy demons have to listen too. Jesus fasted 40 days and nights and when Satan tempted him, Jesus said: IT IS WRITTEN: and He put the right scripture for that particular temptation. He was showing us, that is HOW we are to do it. Got ammo?

Mishael

Hi Carleton,

Thanks for your reply, I just come in from a road trip and had to rest before I can get in front the computer, I'm the worst I have ever seen when it comes to replying or submitting a comment from my cell phone, I have left out whole words by mistake often.

God bless

Hi Karen.

PG 2

Now I'm not sure if all Israel and the prophets and priests knew that all the sacrifices and works in the old tabernacle was pointing to Christ but i believe John the baptist knew, that's what his baptism was about and it was for the Jews, he prepared the way for Christ.

And maybe Abraham, he dwelt in tents looking for a city whose maker was God.

Hebrews 11:9-10. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

This would perhaps be the New Jerusalem,

I believe their veil we being taken away is what we see in Hebrews 11:8 when God says he will write his laws in their hearts, "not stoney tablets" for ALL shall know me, That's the work of the Holyspirit, "spirit of truth" Jesus told the disciples to wait on the Holyspirit before they go on with there mission.

So the promise was not to be completed under the old covenant because it could not be complete without the new heart.

Hebrews 11:39-40. And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

Hebrews 8:10. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

I hope someone can help us both as I am green in this study.

It's interesting to view the daily earthquakes around the world, in light of Matthew chapter 24.

The frequency and intensity of them are predicted by Jesus. There are volcano maps on another website. You can actually see Texas sized icebergs breaking free from Antarctica. Great is technology so we can see THE END OF ALL THINGS is really approaching.

Can all the Presidents of the world solve rising ocean temperatures REALLY?? It's your tax dollars that will fund their lunacy. If the Bible says it's going to happen...thus Saith the Lord God! Amen.

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the ELEMENTS shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Malachi 4:1

For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day THAT COMETH shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Nahum 1:5

The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

Habakkuk 3

5 Before him went the (pandemics)pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet.

6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.

Prophesy will be fulfilled. Global Warming is a TOOL of Satan to UNITE the nations, to bring forth One World Money System; One World Government; a One World Religion Of Global Warming, UNITES in belief that they can defy what the One And Only God has said, would happen on this earth. THEN THE ANTICHRIST.

Pay attention to this! The news media is in on this secrecy. Do your own digging into money institutions i.e. Forbes, Bitcoin and other similars.

Decide now to go with Jesus.

Hi Mishael, I do not know if you drink iced coffee, right now it is full on spring, sitting on my adobe front porch looking across the ivy and poppies cedars and pines to table mountain. Lots of birds singing. Wish we could visit here together for awhile with some iced coffee or mountain river water.

:)

Hi Karen.

PG1

The New covenant spoken of in Jeremiah 31:30 and Hebrews 8. Everthing in the old covenant and tabernacle was pointing to Christ. This new covenant was spoken of in Genisis Link and Link

Romans 11:8. (According as it is written, GOD HATH GIVEN THEM THE SPIRIT OF SLUMBER, EYES THAT THE SHOULD NOT SEE, AND EARS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HEAR;)UNTO THIS DAY.

Romans 11:26-27. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

( For this is my COVENANT unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

2nd Cor. 3:6-16. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

But even unto this day, when Moses is read, (THE VAIL IS UPON THEIR HEART.)

Nevertheless when it (their hearts) shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

In Ps. 9:10 When it says @they know thy name will put their trust in thee. What do they know by thy name will put their trust in thee?

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