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Hello Kristianna The whole key to the understanding the word baptised or baptism, here's a good example. In

Acts 2:38 the word for baptized everyone of you and ye shall receive Holy Ghost, the word baptized means to

or set apart also it is either external or internal. When a person is born again it is internal spiritually it is by

Gods Gift Holy Spirit internal it is in us. Now the translators used the same word alo for water that's why I said depending

on context external or internal. In John 3:16 both are used first one I'm baptising you external for consecration or

preparation, second one Jesus Christ shall future baptise with pneuma Hagion or holy spirit which will burn up

the chaff because its internal. So in Regards to spiritual baptism I'll let you decide what the Word of God says.

Then You have Ephesians 4:4 remember Jesus Christ gave Paul how and what and where and when and to whom

concerning His Church the Body of Christ in the Age of Grace. Make up your own mind on It Is Written when

all scripture concerning subject matter are considered and understood. P.S. I didn't cover all of them due to

tht' a lot too cover.

What chapter and verse in the old testament says that even a righteous man will fall seven time ? And in the new testament I believe it says that even the elect shall be deceived . My point I'm trying to make to a friend is that we all fall down and it's not the fall that matters , but what we do when we get back up, keep marching on for Jesus Christ. The elect part I believe is during the tribulation and deals with the anti christ and all the false prophets claiming to be the real Christ .Please let me know, and God bless you all

Hi Donna,

There were only two people given the opportunity to receive immediate salvation. Both of them dying on crosses next to Jesus. One declined, the other believed and accepted Christ as Savior, confessed, and repented.

There is numerous bible scripture by Jesus and the Apostles directing us to be baptized in order to gain our salvation. Jesus tells us we need to believe in Him, repent, be baptized, and refrain from sin while striving to follow Christ.

Jesus was the ultimate teacher, he came to this earth to instruct us, and he was baptized. He not only told us to be baptized he also instructed his Apostles to perform baptism on all of the new Christian converts.

In summary, there is a ton of scripture instructing us to be baptized, and "0" telling us "not to be baptized".

Read and believe!

Bro Dan In the Gospel of John 3:5 the reference to being born of water is is regards to human birth of the

fetus in water which has nothing to do with water baptism. This i just explaining the context not to argue.

If the serpent or satan is or was a lier then then the first lie ever told must have been in Genesis Chapter 3 Verse 4 Ye shall not surely die . That must be the first lie . Do we still believe that lie ?

Does anyone know what the prayer of faith is as in James 5:14?

Luke 21:1-3

Amen Grace,

Well spoken!

God bless.

God bless Carol Mark 12: 40-44 The point was sha gave what she had from the Heart in private as,

in contrast to putting on a self righteous show or look at what I'm giving. Totally different heart!

Adam Something else to consider and this is not satan or any such junk, there is a difference between

honest heart for scripture and deceptive intent to Get someone to deny Gods Word. If you choose not to

discuss because you think it maybe deceptive I'll stop, but then nothing is learned on either end.

Adam I never view sharing any of the scripture as I'm right or there wrong my priority is to better

understand to bless others and vise versa. Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law which he did then in the completion

of that it opened up on Pentecost the age of Grace. You couldn't even get born again when Jesus was on earth because

that's what he came to make available. Even Jesus Christ had to be baptised to fulfill all righteousness which

was the law. Don't think it will offend me continuing the conversation again brother I never argue scripture it to

shared and intent is to get a greater understanding my position.

The Cross was the beginning of the NEW COVENANT The greatest event to ever grace this planet. Ever thing pales

in comparison to his Blood ....Most everything was done away with Circumcision , the levitical Priesthood. The temple

,

Thats y the veil was rent from the top to the bottom. No more sabbath day ,Now everyday is the Sabbath day, he wants

everyday holy, Abide in me and i in you 24/7..No more feast days , No more soleome assemblies...No more blood of

bulls

and goats ,....Behold I make all things new...Thus we get a new heart and a new spirit, Which is the H.G. the CHILD

OF Promise...We get a NEW Priesthood after the order of Melechezedec,...And the very Kingdom of God is gonna be with

with in us ....No more levitical priesthood. No more Blood of bulls and goats ....Behold the lamb of GOD that taketh the

the sins of the world....no more water baptism is required.....The enorimity of the cross ( his blood ) overshadowed

every thing ....We cannot even look at any other offering for sin....When you tell folks they need to be water baptised

you are in essence saying his blood was not sufficient a slap in the face of God....Thats y God told Peter what i have

made clean do not call common or unclean....When Peter was commanding water baptism in that vision for the remssion

of sins....3 times the lord rebuked Peter with that sheet knit at the 4 corners which is the blood knit with the 4 gospels.

All the unclean animals are the CHURCH that was made clean by the blood of the lamb, Not water baptism that Peter was commanding....Peter does not command water baptism again after acts 11....Peter says after he understood the vision then remembered I the words of our lord John baptised you with water but i will baptise you with the H.G. AND FIRE...Mis ojos son solas para Christo.

Hi Jake Context Isaiah 42:1-7 is prophesy concerning the messiah, the figures of speech bruised reed or

smoking flax represent weak or crippled or spiritually lost people. This middle east thought in representation.

I wanted to find the verse, where Jesus was telling the disciples that the widow's

mite was all she had and the others gave from the overflow.

Hi Rick,

My interpretation of Acts 1:5 is that John only prepared the way for Jesus's ministry, so once Jesus came I believe baptism had a greater significance. So, my interpretation is before Jesus: water only. After Jesus: water + Holy Spirit.

"but its not a requirement for spiritual baptism, I was born again many year ago and was never water baptised."

When I read John 3:5 and Acts 2:38 I know exactly what it says and feel if it wasn't important it would not have been said. I think if baptism wasn't a necessary or important step of obedience, then Jesus wouldn't have baptized people and He clearly would have said to not get baptized. But He clearly said to get baptized. I don't think satan is deceiving me into believing I need to be MORE obedient to Jesus than I truly need to be, but the opposite would seem more likely.

Given that its a commandment from Jesus, it seems like an easy decision to me. And lets say you're right and I'm wrong, then there's no downside to getting baptized and honoring Jesus, is there? But if my interpretation of John 3:5 and Acts 2:38 is right and yours is wrong then you have an enormous downside to deliberately disobeying Jesus, do you not?

God bless...

Could you please tell me where in the new testament the deciplws were asking jesus about tithes were being paid in the synagog especially what jesus said about the womans mite.

I work in an elementary school in the U.S. Today many "celebrated" Winter Solstice, made Solstice

cards, gave gifts and said Happy Holidays or Happy Solstice. But no one said "Merry Christmas."

I was the only one in the faculty that gave cards with the image of Jesus's birth on it, and had some

scripture. Our culture has become so secularized. It is now not at all PC in public schools to mention

Christmas, much less "Jesus.". One 3rd grader today saw a word in the dictionary, that mentioned "beliefs of

Christians." She said to me, "what's a Christian?" I heard another 4th grader who said they drove by

a building with a huge "T" on the building, and did not know it was a symbol of the Cross, and did not know

what that symbol meant. Are pagan traditions coming back to the "one world order"???

Ray V. jones Sr. Your first step Is To Confess Romans 10:9+10 and start changing your lifestyle to Gods Word.

Hi Kristianna The only requirement in the Age of Grace which you and I live in to be born again of Gods

Spirit is to Confess Your sin and Confess with Mouth the Lord Jesus Christ and believe in thine heart that God

Hath raised Him from the dead and thou shalt absolute tense be saved, for with the heart man believeth unto

righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. It Is Written!

Adam If water baptism is necessary or required to be spiritually born again , explain Acts 1:5 where it says For John truly baptized with water but meaning in contrast ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

I'm not advocating don't be baptized in water, but its not a requirement for spiritual baptism,

I wa born again many year ago and was never water baptised.

Ludie Smith Mathew 11 verse 12 Before John the baptist there is a 4-500 year gap where there was

no men of God taking a stand. The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence or is always under attack, the

adversary Is always accusing Gods people who take stand on His Word.

The enemies primary purpose is to eventually shut up or stop Gods

Word from being held forth, which is why he thought eliminating Jesus Christ was all he had to do.

Can you comment on a bruised reed ?

Hello Bill,

Thank you for bringing those scriptures forward. I look forward to that day. I am 65 and may not be alive wen this happens, but will be one that is raised from the dead. But then again, it may happen in my lifetime. Each day, week, year that passes does bring us closer to that wonderful day when Jesus appears to claim His bride and rule and reign on earth.

So, we probably be prepared spiritually for it as much as we are able to be sanctified in this life by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we are exhorted to not resist the Holy Spirit and what He wants to accomplish in us in this life to serve and help others lovingly, and to prepare us for when our time in eternity begins.

1 John 2:3, James 2:19, Luke 11:28, John 14:15, James 2:14

This Bible been on my my competer for a long time and I have not use it.

Hello,

You have to believe the gospel and put all your trust (believe) in the Lord Jesus for your salvation, its that simpel.

The Gospel:

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep

Once you are saved u can never loose your Salvation ever

Praying for you sister :) Dont give up. The Lord will come and rapture us, thats another hope for you / us !

1 Thessalonians 4:17

"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

John 14

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

What did god mean when he said "honor thy father and mother so that their days may be long on the land that god has given us?

Hello, as per your question the Bible doesn't say you "don't have to" be baptized. It says you do, but of course we have freewill to choose who we want to follow in this life- and whether to do good or evil.

Here is Jesus's command to His followers: John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

So, the real question is: if someone claims to be a Jesus follower (a Christian), but doesn't follow what Jesus says, how serious are they about following Jesus? And do they really love Jesus? John 14:15.

Would a genuine Christ follower always be looking to do the bare minimum they assume is required to "be saved" -or- give everything in their life to Christ, perhaps beyond what they assume is required?

Matthew 7:22 - this seems to be an unpopular reality for some believers who are uncomfortable with Jesus's words that many will assume they're "saved" but will not be. Given this scenario already predicted by Jesus, and given that someone desires to go to heaven, is it safer to obey Jesus or look for ways to disobey Him?

God bless...