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Please first praise the LORD with me for Who He is and His faithful, trustworthy and good work. And please knock the door of Heaven with me, for more breakthroughs in my life , family and work situation.

2 Samuel 23:3 is THE prayer for America.

alex1939...Gerald GBU but let me remind you its what Jesus did at Calvary that saved all of us...His blood that New Covenant in his blood... Romans 5:8...While we were yet sinners Christ died for us,all of us...If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me...The 2 theives were made Clean by his blood and the words he spoke to them...That New Covenant in his blood You are made Clean by the Words i have spoken unto you...Abide in me and i in you ...They didn't need to be water baptised the old covenant Johns water baptism...This was a new COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD...Remember what Peter said to whom shall we go lord thou has the Words of Eternal life...Jesus had a conversation with these 2 theives and it was his words that made them Clean... Hebrews 10:20 I was found of them that sought me not and i was made manifest unto them that asked not after me...This New Covenant is a different covenant then the 1 st covenant...God Almighty says i will know them ALL from the least to the greatest... Jeremiah 31:34...And this knowledge is an intimacy that is gonna form Christ in everybody...Thus the babes and sucklings he mentions...And Isaiah says that this Knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...Thats everybody...As Bro Paul mentions the whole creation groans for the manifestation of the Son of God (birth pains) ...The Children of Promise the H.G.... Romans 8:22...Real Faith is a spirtual pregnancy...They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin his words are his seeds that are gona fulfill that great Promise of Multiplication and regeneration...But these things are hid from the wise and prudent and revealed unto babes...Spirits the H.G. a living being our new heart and new spirit...An Israel of God...That New heaven and new earth...His seed and his name sake the H.G...27 times in the O.T. the Prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains...And thats y Elijah has to come and turn the fathers hearts to the Children...The Children of Promise...gbu Gerald

Hi Cindy, thank you and I agree with you but I must say in this case they absolutely know what they are doing. I happen to know these people well enough and I found out they run a brutal pedophile cult and it involves psychics and satanic priests and they openly blasphemy Jesus Christ. Kind of like how the abortionists say "Thank Jesus for abortions", It is the same kind of thing here. I can't help but think that they deserve some kind of hurt - If I could save those children by force I would. Anyways I thank you for your prayers, please take care.

The two thieves on the cross either side of Jesus , while of course they were two individual human beings , they are in fact representing the whole of humanity , us , me and you . For starters , under Jewish law , thievery was not to be punished by death . So when one of them says that they are recieving their due punishment for their deeds , he's not talking about their thievery , hes confessing his human state of sinfulness , the wages of sin is death , he's confessing that he is a sinner and as such deserves to die . This should be part of our confessions also . Then he asks Jesus to remember him in his kingdom , he acknowledges Christ , that Christ will not die and stay dead , Christ will be ressurected , Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verse 5 , he acknowledges that his only hope is that Christ will remember him and have mercy on him when Christ is ressurected . Thus , these two and their words are there solely for our learning and understanding , they represent the whole of humanity . It pays to read everything many many times and very carefully and also to listen to what others have to say , even if we don't agree , those little brain sparks can start firing off in lots of good directions if we allow ourselves to be stimulated into continually open to learning . I've been so inspired by this site , thank you all !

I want to thank you . Your posts have inspired me in my studies . This is why this site is so great , lots of different people with different perspectives bouncing of each other can only be invigorating to all of our brains and hearts . I notice that people disagree sometimes but I think that's good ! It gets our brains going ! It doesn't do for a Christian to never have their beliefs and understandings challenged , we can all learn from each other and maybe even teach each other something new . Have you not noticed , particularly in the Gospels , how the personalities and different perspectives of the writers come through ? This is not an accident !

I have always thought that the words the thief said were not his own , but that they came from the Holy Spirit . They are the words of all humanity crying out for help : Luke chapter 23 verse 40-41, these are all of our confessions . They are us . We are condemned with them , we hang either side of our Saviour . These words were spoken for us to hear and understand that they are our words , describing our state .

Excellent post , thank you .

Yes . Many of my friends and family are quite stupid I think . They put their faith in their jobs , in their bank balances , in other humans ( politicians , bosses , partners , parents , children etc ) they think I'm the crazy one ! These are for sure the blind leading the blind and we know what's going to happen to them . It's sad to be honest , so many people walking towards the pit . We , as humans , are supposed to learn from the past and from our own life experiences . Still people just don't get that this life is nothing and it's taking them nowhere . Buy this and you will be happier , you will feel superior to others who don't have what you have etc . Utter nonsense . Have faith in God and the promises that He has made to those who believe and trust and don't buy into the vanities of this world . There are wonderful eternal days to come , and we can be there . That's better than a new car any day ! Where your treasure is is where your heart is . Make Christ your treasure .

Thank you to all who prayed for me while traveling. I am home. God is good ALL THE TIME! And ALL THE TIME GOD IS GOOD!

Our trials and tribulations are only for a little while here on this earth.

And I recommend that you DON'T sin because we will reap that which we have sown. If you sin your still gonna reap. I'm reaping, so I rejoice in everything because I'm forgiven. But I still reap. David reaped. It's God's righteous judgement. So don't sin!!!

God bless all who use this site.

In Jesus name. I'm praying over all prayer requests here.

Peter, I'm praying for you tonight but I want to ask you if you are a Christian?

Is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior? Do you believe that He came down from the Heavenlies and was born of a virgin?

That He died on the cross for your sins and rose again on the third day and that His blood sacrifice makes you free when you believe and repent?

If so, His blood also coves and protects you even now.

Devils cannot cross the bloodline around you. Read the word ( the Bible) out loud. Make sure you have zero known sin in your life to the best of your ability. And love the Lord your God with your whole heart!

Ephesians 6:11 and so on explains about the armor of God. You need it. Put it on.

We love you here at KJBO and we're praying for you.

alex1939....Gerald love ya but disagree a bit about faith under the new Covenant...You say that Faith is nothin but thats not what Peter says about Faith...Peter said being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God that liveth and abideth for ever...Without his seed which are his words we cannot be bornagain...And Faith comes by hearing his words which are his seeds that initiate Faith...Thats y he has to know US thats when the good seed is sown in our hearts...We all got here by a microcoptic seed and thats the way it is in the Spiritual realm...My lil Children of whom i travail in birth til Christ is formed in you.When a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for and the Evidence of things not seen...Which is the fetus the Evidence she has known the bridegroom...Christ is our bridegroom and he that sows that good seed in our hearts initiating a spritual pregnancy and the New Birth...And Jesus said the good seed are the Children of the Kingdom which is the H.G. As Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit (via his WORDS) thats the H.G. The Child of PROMISE.

....You are failing to understand there is a Child involved in his seed the contents of the book that he wrote with his own blood Even back under the O.C. there was a Child involved that Child of Promise ISAAC...That was multiplied as the sands of the seas the Nation of ISRAEL...it was Abrahams FAITH that brought this Child and the 12 tribes into being....Plz neva say Faith is nothin "everybody has it" thats not true...Faith is the result of his word and it was his word that formed the planets...Faith can only come by hearing his voice his seed...Today if you will hear his voice his seed the very seed of God...To whom the word came it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken..Which is the H.G. the Child of Promise...Plz remember it was God Almighty that made that Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of Heaven..Thus the Woman and her Children.

I agree, that from the perspective you've presented, specifically from your statement, "The faith itself was the evidence of his hope but the assurance came from the Lord", I would agree. However, I sought to bring up the Hebrews 11:1 definition, discussed at length in another thread, which I believe gives a more narrower view of the faith that believers are to have & that expected of the Lord.

Even though the mention of 'faith' can bring up thoughts of the different aspects of expressing faith, such as the one you earlier gave of the London bus arriving at a bus stop, or even one having faith that someone would keep a planned appointment, etc., there's always that element of doubt, or a 'faith' that is more accurately described as 'hope'. There are many Christians, too many I suspect, that only entertain a hope that their salvation is secure, or that they will be found worthy at death to gain entrance into Heaven, and so they teeter on the edge of uncertainty. They might still call it faith, trying with all that's within them to believe that all is well, but in reality hoping that they're good enough or have done enough. Would we say that such folk have the faith that the Lord accepts & as described in Hebrews 11:1? They have trusted in the Lord, faithful in Christian exercises, but when tested on the firmness of their conviction, they falter, knowing that some doubt, even a little, causes them uneasiness.

Whereas Hebrews 11:1 to me, appears more explicit in describing real faith. The use of the words, 'substance' & 'evidence', essentially describes a reality when nothing in the human make-up would permit or entertain such a unswerving belief. Yes, we all go through times of doubt which sometimes brings on fear, but the earnest believer will resort immediately to the Word & prayer to find assurance that what was said & done can never be undone. The thief on the cross had lost everything; his faith in Jesus' Word was not just a word of comfort but of reality.

Thank you sister! God bless you!

I just got home last night. There's nothing like the feeling of coming home, walking in the door. It makes me think about that final homecoming. Leaving this life and walking through the door to be with Jesus forevermore! What a glorious day that will be.

Yes, it's good to be home!

Man was created in the image of God but he IS born in the image of Adam .

Man is not now a creation again each time out of the dust of earth .

He is born of a woman but that does not make the woman his creator either .

For it is God that forms us in the womb according to those laws already predetermined in the creation of Man .

We are now Born .

But not in Gods image .

If man had not disobeyed God and sinned he would also have been born in the image of God . The only one born in the image of God was the Lord Jesus Christ Himself . For He was and is the Word of God made flesh .

We then or anyone true born of the incorruptible seed which is the Word of God that image of God is once again found in them and is it not written " renewed daily in the image of Him"?

If a man or woman finds themselves in hell it will not be so much because they have sinned ( for all have sinned) but because they bore another image than Gods and are then rejected as His sons even as they rejected Christ . For he who receives me receives Him that sent me " it follows they who reject Christ reject also Him that sent Him.

GB

Thank you.

Mary the mother of Jesus :

She did not remain a virgin for she clearly had relationship with Joseph her husband who had sons ; James being one of them and sisters as mentioned .

There is no record in scripture nor any theological foundation for the idea she was immaculately conceived .

But like all mankind of the seed of Adam and thus born in sin and shapen in iniquity .

Do not the scriptures in fact show her liniage ?

Nor was she transported up to heaven that too is not supported by scripture .

But would have died as all men die .

For it is appointed unto man once to die but then comes the judgement .

Might I suggest that an ' immaculate conception ' might well dazzle the imagination but it blinds mens minds to the truth .

Blessed above all women no doubt but we should not put people above what they are not .

Mary the mother of Jesus :

Much has been made of Mary over the centuries that then as now has no basis in scripture .

Mary was not the mother of God ,she was the mother of the Lords flesh the mother of Jesus the Word made flesh.

While he was growing up Jesus was under the authority of His father and mother and obediently submitted to them as recorded when they all went up to Jerusalem and he stayed behind in the temple . When finally found he said I must be about my Fathers business but nevertheless submitted to them and returned home for His time was not yet come .

But from the moment He was baptised the record shows He never gave ground or suggested or allowed His mother to have any authority over Him. For He came not to do her will but the will of Him who sent Him.

Thus at the wedding feast of Canaan when his mother said they had no wine ,He replied ; not ' mother' but Woman what hast thou to do with me seeing that mine hour is not yet come ?"

Later in John he spoke of His hour had come when man would take Him at their will and do their will albeit Gods will was done ias foreseen and recorded in the Old Testament.

When Jesus was talking in a house and His mother according to his flesh was outside with his half brothers and sisters seeking to talk with him . He in effect denied his flesh and said His true mother and brethren are " they who do the will of God"

While on the cross and His mother and John were standing looking up watching . He said to His mother , "behold Thy son "

Not as some religionists would have it ,' look at me' but clearly in the context He was saying that John was now her son and tyen said to John behold Thy mother and from that moment on she lived with him at his house .

Even in his sufferings he made provision for His mother .

She was a virgin when Jesus was conceived in her womb . That does not make her sinless .

She herself confessed her " saviour" . The blood of a child is determined by the father not the mother .

2b contin

please pray for me and my family please pray for my son in law Adam to find a job

Dear InDanger, I have prayed that God will protect you from evil. But I must say, that wishing harm on them is against God's WORD. Nothing that threatens or happens to us is as horrible as what was done to Jesus and He forgave those who crucified Him. Luke 23:34 "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do..." And we are commanded to be like Jesus Philippians 2:5

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:"

God Bless!

Dear God the Father in Heaven. You who are Singular and Almighty God. Hear our cry Lord, look down to us people who are struggling with purification and freedom in Your Holy name Jesus Christ. We honor You, and want to be with You Lord. Forgive us our sins and lead us into the path of the righteous. No one should be able to stand up to Your children, no one who that is washed clean in Jesus blood dear God. Your children whom You have predestined will come into Your kingdom. In Jesus Christ holy name we throw away All evil devilish spirits that will damage us! We throw them into the darkest abyss, Stay there and never come back! In Jesus holy name Amen.

Stay strong in the word of God and He will do His Godly work in you. 2 Timothy 2:14-26.

Love u in Christ

I'm hoping I can find someone group of people who teach new comers to innerstand how to read the bible

Amen

I hope you can feel me though these words bless you I know you feel it too

Today I will with all my heart pray Jesus finds his way to show me how to forgive

As gay man I now know Jesus loves me as I am, you will innerstand how I have looked for him with truth and finally now in the last days I find him hidden and and I struggle with forgiveness not just for me all souls being sent around the samsara again and again

I plead the blood of our lord and saviour I find the keys to forgiveness

So may better serve him and find the happiness I long for Amen

Big hug

Thank you

Your words are true

For me as a once catholic which I now renounce all of the teachings Horrified with the evil which still hurts .

However I'm blessed to know the truth of the king James which I need to study

I hope to find the help I need here, if that's possible

Acceptance will equal forgiveness? If so pls include me in your prayers

Owen

Dear Gerald

You say Gerald - in Reply

You will have to back that up with scripture and more than one verse at that .

This is more than just a verse, it is the foundation of the understanding of man and his situation in life.

That man is created in the image of God and the meaning of this, you do avoid to reply to this and when you do not reply I will not reply either.

So please do display what is the right view on the fundamental fact that man is created in the image of God.

Arnfinnius

Thank you . In danger of thinking I simply quibbling over words forgive me .

But unless I have misunderstood you . Faith in of and by itself is nothing . He clearly saw a king if only dimly and one who was going to conquer death and " enter into His kingdom" it was what the thief saw and understood that made him put his faith In Christ . His confession ( in the truest sense) gave substance to his hope in Christ and calling Him Lord was the evidence of things hoped for .

"Without faith it is impossible to please God " but that too is a gift of God and it was the Lord that inspired that faith in Himself.

The assurance as the promise given in reward to his faith .

The faith itself was the evidence of his hope but the assurance came from the Lord .

It is quite a difference .

Like many other things in the religious world faith has been misunderstood misapplied in some cases and blown out of all proportion of what the scripture says it IS.

Everyone has faith . Even those who mocked the Lord .

As does everyone today and use it every day that is according to what faith IS .

Faith in God works by the same principles as real faith does in anything else .

It is how ever if put in Christ a sure and certain hope of our faith being rewarded .

GB .

Was not saying that to accuse you but rather for any other readers who might jump to that conclusion .

I've been a child of God ,born again for over 40 years and still find the Bible inexhaustible.

A well very deep but with clear pure water for the drinking if you take the time and trouble to go for it .

Is it not written "they who hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be filled"?

Keep on keeping on says the scripture for " then shall ye know as you follow onto know".

Waters up to the ankles . Safe enough for a child to paddle in .

Waters up to the loins . Safe enough for " young men" up to their loins who if their honest at first are a little afraid ,because they feel the power of the waters and know it could destroy them .

But to their delight and joy find ,

There are waters to swim in and the sea bares them up .

But even here the same scripture does not stop .

For while a man can swim the English Channel he is not going to be able swim the Atlantic or indeed the Pacific .

But what does the scripture say?

But I " could not go on and the angel led me to a river on who's banks trees were planted whos leaves were for the healing of the nations .

Keep eating keep studying keep thinking or meditating on the scriptures for no time spent doing so is wasted nor unfruitful if we do so prayerfully .

For we do but give the Holy Spirit the means to work in you that which pleases God to do .

Psalm 1 . Blessed is the man who meditates on Gods Word day and night ,"he is like a tree planted by the rivers of living waters ".

It is line upon line and precept upon precept and your right we cannot understand what we are not ready for or " able to bear"

But you would be surprised what God can do .

"The purchased possession ready to be revealed "

Is the body

Those who are not redeemed their body perishes becomes unusable ot fit for purpose .

One aspect of hell is that the unsaved have no body it has perished . But "every good and perfect gift cometh from the Father above" When we are thirsty he gives us water when we are hungry he provides the food .

In hell you will be thirsty but cannot drink being cut off from God on the one hand and unable to drink on the other .

Hungry but cannot eat .

The soul is saved ,the mind willingly renewed and the body redeemed .

It is the redeemed and transformed body that is to be revealed when the mortal shall put on immortality and the corrupt shall put on incorruption.

Another way of looking at it is that where as death reigned in our bodies when Jesus died he took the keys of death and hell and put them on his belt and when He was raised from the dead we who believe are raised together with Him and now life reigns .

But even as Adam was created with so much life took 800 odd years for that death ( after the fall) that now reigned in him.

So that utter defeat of the devil by His death will not be totally manifest till much later . Nor then we who are born again where Christ now reigns and theclaw of life . That life will progressively or should manifest itself in our mortal bodies .

For if this body is dead because of sin ,"if the same Holy Spirit that raised Christ Jesus from the dead dwell in you He shall quicken your mortal body"

Consider also Paul's prayer for Christian's thst " the eyes of our understanding being opened that we may comprehend with all the saints what is the exceeding greatness of His power that is towards us even the same power that raised Christ Jesus from the dead"

Have you ever stopped to consider how much power is needed to raise the dead?

Though me thinks it's not a strain to God .

GB

Hello John. As Richard has given you the requested Scripture ( Ephesians 1:14), I will simply share my understanding of the verses 13 & 14: "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

The Apostle Paul is writing to the believers that they also had put their trust in Jesus after they had heard & believed the Gospel. They were sealed by the Holy Spirit - the Spirit is given to all who love & trust Jesus for their salvation & their lives. The Holy Spirit, by His residence in the believer, ministers to our hearts in every way. Some of the ways are: teaching ( John 16:12-15); Guiding ( Romans 8:14); Assuring ( Romans 8:16); Praying ( Romans 8:26, Ephesians 6:18); Comforting/Helping ( John 14:26).

But the foremost Work of the Spirit in the believer is to "seal" him, or 'set a mark' that we belong to Christ. And that is why Paul states in Romans 8:35-39 that nothing, absolutely nothing, can ever separate us "from the Love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord". And here in Ephesians, Paul is stating that our sealing (or, eternal security) by the Holy Spirit is our "earnest", or God's guarantee/pledge until our redemption. Some might say, 'I thought we were already redeemed when we believed & bought by Christ's precious Blood?' Yes, we were fully redeemed spiritually, i.e. inwardly, when we were born again, given a new Spirit, which is of God. But our flesh (body), still tainted with sin & prone to failure before God waits for, rather longs for the day when our redemption is made complete ( Romans 8:23). So Paul says in Ephesians, that our redemption will be made complete when we are taken from this Earth, given new bodies, outfitted for Heaven. And all praise & glory goes to the Lord Who has done all this for us.

Dear Peter, I will pray for you tonight.

Dear Heavenly Father, we ask You in the name of Jesus to come to Peter's aid right now and break the power of the evil these people are devising against him. We ask that You protect Peter's life and faith. Keep his mind safe from evil influences and turn these wicked people away from him and cause them to remove themselves far, far away from him. Father, renew Peter's sense of safety and peace as You intervene mightily in this situation. Give Peter wisdom and discernment to correctly evaluate this situation and be well aware of what is happening. Be his fortress and guard, protecting him from harm each and every moment. Amen.