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  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    In my last update; I mentioned "decisional regeneration". My final statement on that subject is that we all must truly make the "decision" to verbally and in the heart confess Christ; but we must continue believing and test ourselves to see if we are in the faith after such a commitment. ( 2 Cor. 13:5). John 3:16 as I have said before is in a tense that means a CONTINUING faith; not just a one time experience where we can dwell with those of heaven and continue to live as before; therefore still on the wide road leading to destruction. If we have decieved ourselves; of course there is some crossover with the other points I have made in regard to not taking specific sins seriously; or being a tare. In the three cases examined under point one so far the Bible is used at face value; so to speak; and the poison basically comes from within ourself. Satan is by no means excluded from this process but doesn't have to do as much as in the other two cases I am about to discuss.

    Case #2 Twisting scriptures

    Ah; now we are getting into the enemy's camp. Most of us probably are familiar with Christ's dialogue with Satan when being tempted in the wilderness ( Matthew 4:1-11). Here there was no issue with the LITERAL interpretation of scripture but it's application. Satan wanted worship for Himself so he first used the temptation to satisfy hunger; then that of ending suffering through self destruction and finally worship for himself. In the first two cases he used scripture as his ammo. In the last case his true intentions came out; i.e. for him to be worshipped as God. Christ did the "knockout punch" there with the command to worship only God alone. Satan didn't have to use scripture to prove his point as later verses in the N.T. indicate that he has been given temporary power over the world system and Principalities in high places ( Eph. 6:12). He also knew that Jesus wouldn't be fooled by some other "religious" writings since He was the Son of God. ( James 2:19
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    I am putting dangers of scripture used with lethal additives. I subdivided 3 categories; with the first primarily focused on a correct reading of scripture but lack of belief in reality. The tares may or may not add heresy but as I stated previously it seems most are unaware of their desperate state but are content in themselves because they are "covered in the blood" somehow.

    Those who are justifying sin may or may not be believers (such as "hyper-grace" people who somehow deny that sin still is sin after they are "saved"; or those who choose to ignore certain passages or hope God will forgive them somehow for continuing in sin.

    The third part is what I called "confessional regeneration"; I meant "decisional regeneration". Again as in the first two examples of the first error the Bible is used in proclaiming the truth in question (in this case the way to salvation) correctly although it is not APPLIED properly. Perhaps if it truly IS confessional which involves the "believing in your heart" part of Romans 10:9; then a verbal affirmation has more hope of being genuine.

    Sadly enough; in my own experience I know of someone who hands out a rather large sum of money for those who can correctly pass a Bile trivia question. I suppose that would save "rain man" from having to have a career loading decks of cards to make money at the casino who is quite a savant person to make a living. There are articles describing some of the sickening methods used at "altar calls" such as money for those who can invite the most people so as to obtain the most "conversions".

    Sounds like a great way to promote the "Judas's" in the midst waiting to take over as the new kid in town if you get my drift..

    Ignoring those gross offenses; there are some as myself who didn't understand the doctrines of election; or how God has to grant repentance and change someone for genuine conversion. I'm sure there are others who made a confession as I did and are truly saved. But many aren't
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    The three dangers of misusing scripture to allow sin to enter into the camp.

    1. False converts, Justifying sin; "confessional regeneration".

    a. False converts: There are those who deliberately enter in whether Satan worshippers or those attempting to fleece people for money that know how to recite scriptures and use it to their advantage to reel unsuspecting people in and attempt to manipulate them. I have seen these things in a former church; I won't get into details here. Many who are "tares" aren't aware themselves that they are and therefore we must "know them by their fruits." ( Matt. 7:16).

    b. Justifying sin: In order to get others to approve of wrong actions as well as justifying certain behaviors; we see error today ( Romans 1:32). This is again another thing I have seen from previous experience in church where those living in obvious sin (including shacking up as well as in same sex relations) thought that they could somehow become church members. In my opinion when there is sin within the camp and a lack of fear of the Lord such individuals are given latitude to "slip in unawares" and wreak havoc. There was enough scripture taught that eventually these people stopped attending or it became more infrequent. Thankfully; one couple decided to marry after being convicted of living that way; or at least upped the ante some.

    Again; it is easy to look at sexual sins and obvious failings and not look at pride and jealousy and gossip as being dangerous elements threatening to tear apart the unity in a church. ALL of these things; of course are covered in scripture and in this case you can't make a "literal vs figurative" argument. To look at how one path has led to a domino effect we only need to examine increasing divorces post WW2; followed; of course by increasing numbers of remarriages. Then we see the next generation more likely to be single parents; then the 1970's free love; and now today's LGBQ etal trends.
  • Myra spring on Hosea 5 - 3 years ago
    Dont quite understand fasting what do you do ? Go all day without eating or give up someing you like for a day or just a meal explain --Please if it mean go with out food all day and cant do that Im diabetic , so what do I do
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    The Gospel: Pure and uncompromised

    Matthew 12:34 states that "out of the abundance of the heart; the mouth speaketh." Isaiah 8:20 speaking about those who are false Prophets says "to the word and the testimony". They are said if not to speak the truth to have "no light of the dawn". Contrast this with Revelation 12:11 where the word of their testimony of the Tribulation martyrs indicates that they "loved not their lives unto the death." With today's churches having doctrines as skewed as they are we aren't safe to assume that occultic demonic "doctrines of demons" haven't already infected many congregations as 1 Timothy 4:1 warns. But for the remainder of this discussion I will assume that at least a respectable version of the scriptures is being preached in the churches I am examining here.

    The Lord stated how "a little leaven ruins the whole loaf". ( Galatians 5:9 and other verses). No one is going to offer arsenic with a little inert ingredient to temper the flavor as an appetizer; but if being devious will put a little poison in something that is tasty. Satan won't come along saying that he is a deceiver; liar and murdurer and by the way wouldn't you like to join my cause? Admittedly there are a few who are sadistic enough to play the fiddle with the Devil as it were with some fantasy that they are so vile that they can command the Devil what to do; and there are some who despite knowing his nature think that Satan won't grind them into powder as was requested by Satan to Christ in the case of Peter.

    The greatest danger; therefore lies when sin enters within the tent; the congregation of meeting and scripture is mixed in to instill false confidence in one's spiritual standing; or twisted to justify what eventually becomes a festering cancer after initially being toyed with by a few in idle conversation. There is also the ever present danger of trying to justify a doctrine; either true or false by turning literal scriptures to figurative.
  • Mike Goldbach RN on Matthew 21 - 3 years ago
    This "stone" that Christ says "those that fall on it will be broken and those it falls on will be ground to." ; what is it and why the difference in severity?
  • Kathy jackson on Matthew 28 - 3 years ago
    Pray for the United Kingdom's leaders they would be good men having compassion on others and be saved with eternal life thanks retired nurse
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying for you
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Oh and. Whatever you do, do it as unto The Lord with all your might and the Lord will bless it Im sure. Pray also for His counsel.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying for you.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying for Juanita. Lord please heal her and may it be evident to all as a witness to Your great mercy Lord! In Jesus name.
  • BOB W - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thank you, God bless
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I'm praying for you Courtney. In Jesus name. God bless you.
  • Mary B. on 1 Kings 1 - 3 years ago
    In the book of Acts is where they were born again. Jesus said water & Spirit. They were baptized in the name Of Jesus Christ and received the holy Ghost. Therefore Acts 2:38.

    That is the gospel to be obeyed.

    Matthew 28:19 & John 3:3-5 is fulfilled in Acts 2:38.

    The epistles from Romans- Jude was not written to the world, not written to the sinner. It is written to the brethren.

    To those that disagree, you need to ask the Lord for a revelation.

    Believing in Christ is just the beginning. Amen
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen Anna! The Lord be magnified! I AM praising with you!

    The Lord is great and greatly to be praised!

    He has done so much for me. He brought me out of a deep dark pit and I will be forever grateful!

    :-)

    Psalms 63:3-4

    Psalms 103:1
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    You and your fur babies are in my prayers this morning.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying for your friends home and family.
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Praying for you
  • Alberto - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen. God bless thee, and thy family, pray for me.
  • Alex1939 - 3 years ago
    Alex1939...Why did Jesus have to shed his blood on Calvary ?..There are 2 facets to the Cross...1st was the blood of the lamb..Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...But there is a 2 nd facet which is multiplication of his seed ..Smite the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the lil ones,..The babes and sucklings..A lil one is gonna become a 1000 and a small one a strong nation...An Israel of God...Spirits the H.G. PLURAL That was the great Promise i will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the Messiah wd have to be a bridegroom always ready to sow his incorruptible seed in humanity as the field is the world,...John the Bap. said he that has the bride ( humanity ) is the bridegroom...God so loved the world...The Greeks wanted to see Jesus...And Jesus told them unless a seed falls in the ground it abides alone...But if it dies it will bring forth much fruit..Thus many Christ that was the promise I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus all men will see Jesus not just the Greeks...Not only will we see Jesus but we will see his seed the H.G. the Children of PROMISE...Thats what Jacob told Joseph...I had not thought to see thy face but lo God has showed me also your seed...Manasseh and Ephraim....Thats y Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the Children of Promise the Gift of God...The Elect is the H.G. that will show judgement to Jews and Gentiles alike...Flesh and blood are not the Children, its only the Children of Promise the H.G. that are the real Children of God...Which is our new hearts and new spirits...We are just a joint heir with the H.G...That Christ in you via his seed the words of the book...Read Romans 9:8 kjv...Not all israel is Israel thus there is gonna be an Israel of God via the seed of Jesus..That New Covenant in his blood.. Psalms 48:6 Great fear fell on them there as a woman in birth pains..And they shall be afraid pangs n sorrows.
  • Sammi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I agree .
  • Geraldine on Matthew 18 - 3 years ago
    It is sad to be so selfish to other u see u never no!!who u will need to help u in your life. so we need to treat other like we want other to treat us thats the way jesus want us to be. do u agree??? i agree, amen. think before u do things u never no who u will need in this life.peace out. we shall reap what we sow out to others be it good or bad. thats the truth.
  • David Allen - 3 years ago
    please pray for Kristie and me and my family
  • World - 3 years ago
    Please pray for me and for my family. I feel like I am starting to become lukewarm again. I've also had many dreams where my sister kicks me for my faith. Please pray for us. I also struggle with cowardnes. I am a big coward I admit . Please pray for me to have more courage in the name of Jesus Christ. Thank you
  • Ironhorseemery - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear Morrisbrada, simply let the written word of God be your guide for all things and study to show yourself approved to minister God's plan. Do not add to or take away from his written word, Amen.
  • Buste2u - 3 years ago
    Please pray for me I cosigned for my step son to get a truck his payments are behind we don't have the money

    Please pray that God will open up doors for us.
  • Buste2u - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Lord God I speak Healing into Natasga life in Jesus name

    no weapon formed against you shall prosper
  • Helen - 3 years ago
    Needing a lot of preys to remove evil from my friends home and probably.


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