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Thank You for your response GIGI

The reason I asked is because I have heard people discrediting a pastor for saying they were twins and am wanting to find out how they can discredit someone for something that may very well be true.

Thank You Again

Hi Ruby Lea Read,

In addition to what you are correctly stating; everyone has a tendency to stand guard over their ideas because we want to protect our thought systems as they are, and learning something different means change. In out current state of mind, we can only perceive, which is open to degrees beyond calculation. God is Knowledge and it is ONLY Him Who knows. Knowledge is all ONE and has no separate parts; no degrees, levels, variations, and no conflict whatsoever. When we KNOW, we obviously will quit debating and asking questions. All will arrive to that time when we know. When that time arrives, time will be over and eternity will be reality. Until then though, we need to persevere towards perceiving from sick perception towards perceiving correctly as we open our mind to what the Holy Spirit is teaching. If we are not continuously learning and adjusting our system of thought, we only prolong time, and time is not a concept in the Kingdom. I will not fear changing my mind about changing my mind. Thus I will continue to grow.

Peace,

GOD IS

GiGi;

Daniel 9:25-28

The prince is Christ.

Daniel 9:25 ...now the MESSIAH the PRINCE ......

Daniel 9:26 ....and the people of the PRINCE (Christ) that SHALL COME ----those born again, the New Creation in Christ ....

Daniel 9:28 And he ( Messiah, the prince) shall make a COVENANT with many for ONE WEEK (the week of PASSOVER), and in the midst of the week (of passover) shall he cause the sacrifice and offering TO CEASE, and for the OVERSPREADING of ABOMINATION shall HE MAKE it DESOLATE, even until the consumption, and that DETERMINED ( Joel 2:28) shall be POURED on the DESOLATE.

God Bless YOU!

Asking for strong protection and breakthrough for us and all in need.

Ruby Lea Read You just made my point exactly! We have to be lead by the Holy Spirit, He will teach us all things. We can not believe things that were taught to us by man! I do not allow any man to teach me. I do my own studies in a KJB and pray to be lead by the Holy Spirit, every Believer should do the same. (1.Jn.2:27) But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, ((and ye need not that any man teach you)): but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. For one to allow the Holy Spirit to teach them all things, we cannot think we already know until He shows us. We truly need to be completely opened minded to the truth, and allow the Holy Spirit to lead us into His Truth. (Heb.4:12) Tells us the Word of God is Alive today. Scripture will interpret scripture, there are no lies in them. Thank you, Ruby for your reply.

Chris The great tribulation in Mt.Ch.24 is shortened for the elects sake. The time period of the mark of the beast will be during the great tribulation Chris, which will be a time such as was not since the beginning of the world, no, nor ever shall be. God shortens this time period, or no flesh would be saved so ((who is responsible for the persecution of the elect in this time period))? Satan, the devil will be. (Rev.12;12,17) (12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. (17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ((This will be the time of great tribulation, the devil's wrath will be against all Believers in Jesus Christ, (Rev.13:16-18) The mark of the beast is during this period! If God would not shorten this time period no flesh would be saved.)) God pours out His wrath on all non-believers of Jesus Christ. While True Believers are at the marriage supper of the Lamb the wrath of God is being poured on the disobedient ones left on the earth. (2 Pet.2:9) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished. Read (2 Thes.1:7-10) also (Zeph.1:14-18) The wrath of God, the day of Gods vengeance comes the same day as the return of Jesus, the day of the Lord. The great tribulation and the wrath of God are not the same time period. Also in Rev.15:8 We are told "And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, (till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled) During the seven vials of the wrath of God no man can enter into the temple. Believers are at the marriage supper of the Lamb at that time. Thanks Chris.

Hi Gigi.

Yes, some say that but if we examine the text closely it groups Titus with "The People" who destroyed the city and the sanctuary.

Let's highlight what the people shall do.

AND THE PEOPLE of the prince that shall come SHALL DESTROY THE CITY AND THE SANCTUARY; (That's what Titus did.) He's part of the people.

They are the people of the prince that SHALL COME. ( This means after the destruction.) And he haven't come yet.

vs 27 continues on about this prince.

'(AND HE) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate".

This Parallels the work of the Antichrist in Revelation and Jesus makes reference to this as end times prophecy in Matthew 24:15.

"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Jesus was answering the questions of the disciples from vs 3.

(And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?)

This puts the work of the prince in Daniel 9 far future.

Daniel 9:24 is the scope of things.

Daniel 9:25 details the 69 weeks.

Daniel 9:26 details the interval. (What's to happen after the 69th week but BEFORE the 70th week.

Daniel 9:27 details the 70th week.

I will elaborate more on this over the weekend.

God bless.

I have looked at the spelling you provided about letters changing over time to other letters.

In Joel 2:24 and 3:13 where it says "your fats will overflow with wine and oil". Seems it should

be "vats" not "fats". I did not see in spelling anything about the f changing to a v or vice versa.

Thanks and hope to hear from you.

Jimbob:

We are constantly seeing; but not seeing.

This is all God's doing, we repent of our seeing; but not seeing, as he causes light to shine into darkness, if your not constantly repenting of you beliefs an growing in wisdom and understanding, your not maturing in the word.

We started learning by what our elders taught us, they most often are still in darkness, also, it's hard to repent of mans teachings, because we think our parents and pastors KNOW, which is probably not true.

As you study ask yourself; did I learn this from MAN, or the teaching of the SPIRIT.

Remember the whole world has been deceived, only the Spirit can bring you to TRUTH: It'a all the WORK of God, not man.

God Bless YOU!

Renee Olson:

Revelation 6:6 ...and see thou hurt not the oil and wine.

The OLD is a SHADOW of the NEW.

Numbers 18:12 All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and the wheat, the FIRSTFRUITS of them which they shall offer to the LORD, them have I given thee.

Numbers 18:13 And WHOSOEVER is FIRST RIPE in the land, which they shall bring in to the LORD, SHALL BE THINE; everyone that is clean in THINE HOUSE shall eat of it.

Romans 8:23 Not only they, but WE OURSELVES, which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the Spirit ....

Revelation 14:4 ...being the FIRSTFRUITS unto God and the Lamb.

1 Corinthians 15:23 .....Christ the FIRSTFRUITS ......

Notice Christ the firstfruits is PLURAL.

Galatians 4:19 .....till Christ be FORMED IN YOU ....

Revelation 6:6 ....and see thou not hurt the oil and the wine (the firstfruits).

God Bless YOU!

Jesse As we have discussed before, nobody has all the answers. One could be on the mark in many different parts of Bible prophecy, but be mislead on a few things, or just misinterpret certain things and be lead away from the truth. If anybody is believing something that's not Biblical, their eyes are not open to that truth, Or you could say they are being deceived! The subject of when Jesus returns could be the biggest deception with us today, IF the pre-tribulation rapture is not truth. If we allow the scriptures to interpret themselves, then I do not see how one could come up with pre-trib being truth unless its what was taught to that person first, and then they would see all scriptures in a way that fits, or aligns with that belief. You asked what would be the role of the church during the wrath of God? When Jesus returns in the clouds for the church, all True Believers will meet Him in the clouds and be taken to the marriage supper of the Lamb. (Mt.24:29-31) (1.Thes.4:15-17) (Rev.19:7-9) At the same time, the same day the wrath of God is being poured out on those non-believers left on the earth. Read Zeph.1:14-18 The day of the LORD is also the day of His wrath. Jn.3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: (Believers will be caught up to meet our Lord in the clouds on that great day) and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (The wrath of God will be poured on those who believeth not the Son, all non-believers or disobedient ones, it will start the same day Believers are taken from the earth. The church will not be here for that Jesse. 1 Thes.5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. (The great tribulation and the wrath of God are not the same.) Rom.1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness. Scripture interprets scripture. Thank you Jesse.

Thank you

Please Holy Spirit intervene and open the spiritual eyes of Eie that they be filled with peace, patience, prosperity in stewardship and servitude for the Glory of God I ask in the name of Jesus Christ!

Please consider reflecting on 1 Chronicles 4:9-10, Psalm 23, Psalm 121, 1 Corinthians 15, and Hebrews 11.

Ruby Lea Read Do you mean it's better to not know the truth?

Thaddeus was called Lebbaeus & what was his other name

Freemasonry/Shriners show themselves as "angels of light" ie. "love Shriners children's hospital". It is a secret society of which the only way the to "know" their inner workings is to become a Freemason/Shriner. They do not give credit to Jesus Christ for their "good deeds", but rather to themselves through self improvement or rather, illuminating one's self through "good deeds". From all my research on this subject I do not see how a born again Christian can have any part in freemasonry. Something for us to think about.

how can I member bible verse

Dear Eie, to have a closer walk with God:

1. Root yourself in the Bible. Read it and study it and memorize it and share it with others. You might have or seek an opportunity to teach it in Sunday School or a class on Wednesday nights or other special meeting days or nights.

2. Pray without ceasing. Pray when you're joyful, when you're sad, sick. In all things praise His name.

3. For the habit of daily devotions, during which you pray, read, study, quote Scripture, sing, and pray for others and for events such as an upcoming revival, a birth, like that.

4. Rest in Jesus. Surrender your all to Him, do His, will, seek him when you're afraid and when you are joyful.

5. When you sin, confess that sin(s) to Him ASAP.

6. Let His mind be in you.

7. Serve others in paying tithes, feeding the hungry, visiting the sick, and praying for them.

8. Lit your light shine upon those who walk in darkness.

There's so much more... But to do His will is to walk closer to Him.

please remember me and my family

Lord Jesus, You know the span of Jeff's days. We ask You to prepare his eyes

And ears to receive witness this day if he is still here, from whoever You choose.

You understand this urgent need, and how to reach him in Spirit and Truth.

Thank You that Gigi has shared this burden. Thank You Lord for Your Intervention

in this situation, and for All You are doing right now. By Your grace. For Your

glory.

Alleluia. Amen.

Lord Jesus, thank You for all You are doing to help us personally and our families.

You understand our needs. Help us to focus to pray for the needs of others

also. Thank You for these opportunities. By Your grace. Alleluia. Amen.

I was lonely on valentine's day. i usually never felt this way. valentine's day is a evil man made holiday but i was lonely. i have no friends or a boyfriend. i hope one day God give me one of these things.

Hello again Frank,

I just would like to know if you two are married or not. It will help me to pray for your situation more specifically. I am not in touch with any other prayer group or organization. So perhaps one of the other people on this forum can help you in this area.

Just so you know, my husband and I have been married 43 years. There have been bumps along the way, but overall, we have had a very harmonious go of it. We have had Jesus be the center of our relationship from the start and have similar outlooks on life, politics, etc. So, we do not have very many arguments.

We do "bug" each other often because of our differences in personalities. I am an extrovert, he is an introvert. He is a perfectionist. I am ok to do trial and error. He likes to be in charge, I am happy to follow his lead most of the time. I am a very strong minded person as he is, but I temper that down to submit to what the Holy Spirit wants for me to say or do, and especially concerning my attitudes, motives, and secret thought.

I want to be godly and I know that I am to be submissive to my husband in love. I know that I am not to demand my own way, but to wish to please him and help him deal with the situation in the best way. I know that I am to look out for the best interests of him and my family over my own. I know that I am to be wise to discern when I am to take a stand on an issue and insist to be listened to or to refuse to go along. This is rare. I want to choose these "battles" (if they can be called that) according to the word of God and what is best for all of us. There has been a lot of growth along the way, but we are looking forward to getting to 50!

Hello Seeking Truth.

I think it may be very likely that they were twins by the way the original Hebrew (to Greek and then to English) has been translated. But,, not knowing what the original Hebrew actually said, the case should be that they were not twins.

I am sure that Adam and Eve had many sets of twins. So, for me, it doesn't matter either way about Cain and Abel.

S. Spencer,

I am glad he is getting good care in this difficult time for him and you and your family.

I've doing an extensive study on the resurrection of the dead (or body) this past week. It comforts me to know that we all will be resurrected to a grander, perfected life with our Lord with bodies that have been made new by the power of the Holy Spirit.

I am glad to hear that you and your brother pray together. What a beautiful thing to share in the relationship that has existed for decades and decades.

Hello S. Spencer.

Perhaps the Prince is the antichrist or perhaps it was Titus in 70A.D.

What do the oil & wine of vs 6 represent?

Hi Brother Ronald.

Sorry for such a delay in getting back to you.

I've been very busy at work.

I enjoy our discussions.

In vs 26 I believe where it says

"AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;

The people is the Romans.

Their Prince "THAT SHALL COME" is the antichrist.

What do the oil & wine of vs 6 represent?

Hi Gigi.

He's hanging in there, They're doing a great job making him comfortable.

I went to see him and talked and prayed with him.

We continue in prayer and accept God's will.