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  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Gen.17.8-9 "Everlasting possessions"

    "The land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God./ Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations." God referring to the Covenant makes the land for an everlasting possession. 'I will be their God. So the land is not a certain land with geographical boundaries but earth that abides forever. So he who has the Son has the Father as well. Thus circumcision is instituted as a covenant, a sign for the body. Thy seed after thee in their generations includes Ishmael as well.

    God specifies the heir of promise,"And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him."(v.19) On the other hand Abraham gave him the name of Ishmael. There is a lot of difference in this. Abraham and Isaac fill the Father Son relationship and the basis of the Covenant is not circumcision but faith. The land therefore has a different ephasis. The worlds framed by the word of God has faith as the DNA. So God is specific: "But my covenant will I establish with Isaac." In the case of Ishamel, "And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation." (v.20) Where faith is insisted upon entering into the rest of God constitutes as the works. Abraham undergoes circumcision as the token of the father many nations. v.10 "This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you."God renews it third time with regards to the Body. In Ch.15 we have the Covenant where Soul is the emphasis. Melchizedek, the high priest of God validates the Covenant in terms of the Spirit.

    Jesus Christ the Word born of flesh has made circumcision superfluous. His "perfect sacrirfice" (Heb.10.14)
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Correction:

    "On the other hand Abraham gave him the name of Ishmael. There is a lot of difference in this."

    There is a factual error here.This should be ignored. Instead, "And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction."(16.11)



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