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  • Jesse - 1 year ago
    (1 Peter Part 8a):

    1 Peter 2:7 - Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

    Unto you therefore who believe he is precious: but to them which be disobedient, and it's interesting that it's one Greek word (APEITHOUSIN) that means refuse to be persuaded. Disobedient is somebody who refuses to be persuaded by God's Spirit. The stone which the builders rejected, this same stone became the head of the corner.

    1 Peter 2:8 - And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

    A stone of stumbling, and a PETRA of offence, a rock of offence. The way they built their buildings in those times, they took a cornerstone and put it in the corner of where the building was going to go and then used other stones and built off from that in order to make the house.

    So, the cornerstone was the head focus of how that building was put together, so that when Christ came, He came as the chief cornerstone, and that all of His people, the ones who believe upon Him, are being built up in Him into this spiritual house. But for those who disbelieve, He is not the chief cornerstone, He is the stumbling stone, and a rock of offence. Interesting that Peter is writing this and he calls Jesus Petra. He's not calling himself that!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (1 Peter Part 11):

    1 Peter 2:12 - Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

    Having your conversation, that is, lifestyle, honest among the Gentiles:

    They really have trouble with the words good and bad. The word honest is the word KALOS for TOV, the Hebrew word we went over earlier. It literally says have your manner of life functioning in the purpose for which it was made among the Gentiles. In order that (Purpose Clause), whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, again KALOS, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

    So, you function in the way that God meant you to function. That's having a good lifestyle. We make mistakes and we sin, but he's talking about function. Before I received Christ, I was not functioning according to the purpose that I was created for. So, what God has done, He has saved me, and I am now involved in His administration system, not the worlds. We've got the world's administration, and the Lord's administration functioning together, two different administrations.

    So, what am I to do with that other system out there? I have to live in it and not be of it. What he's saying is, function in the Lord according to the purpose for which He created you. And if they speak evil of you for it, then they're going to glorify God when He comes back because they're going to know that it was all of the Lord.

    1 Peter 2:15 - For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

    For so is the will of God, that with well doing you may silence the ignorance of foolish men: The "well doing" is TOV in Hebrew. You're functioning in the way that God has created you to function in a dysfunctional world. One day, the ignorance of foolish men will be silenced.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (1 Peter Part 10):

    1 Peter 2:11 - Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

    He says dearly beloved, or literally beloved. It is interesting that as soon as you get into submission, you call your readers beloved. The word beloved is AGAPETOI, which means people who are the objects of God's love. So, he's reminding them. He says those who are the objects of God's love, I appeal to you. That's what beseech means.

    He says I appeal to you as to strangers and pilgrims. I mean, they were literally strangers and pilgrims. They were living in countries that were not their own. They knew humanly what it meant to be a stranger and a pilgrim spiritually.

    This Greek word for stranger (PAROIKOUS) means to live alongside of. And you might say don't we live alongside of each other? What this literally means is that it's showing a separation. It's coming and living alongside of people who are already living there.

    I know I'm throwing out a lot of terms here, but I share these things in order to set things up when we get to Revelation. I know this has been long and some of you might be saying please hurry up and get this over with. But the book of Revelation says that there are only two kinds of people. There are people who belong to Christ, and the other people are called earth dwellers.

    So, we're living alongside of earth dwellers. But we're just passing through. We're strangers here and we're pilgrims. And that's the word for traveler. I might be alongside of them, but I'm not of them. I'm passing through. I'm a pilgrim!

    He says abstain from fleshly lusts, which are warring, and notice the translation, are warring against the soul; The word war is a Present Participle. It is continuously warring. The believer is continuously in a war. His fleshly desires are continually warring against the soul, constantly!

    The word soul is PSUECHE, your psyche, the arena of your mind.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (1 Peter Part 9):

    1 Peter 2:9 - But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

    In this verse, we see a lot of Jewish terms. You are a chosen generation. The word generation in this verse (GENOS) means race. The Jews are God's chosen race. He says you are a royal priesthood. And that's not for Gentiles. That's for Jews. You are a holy nation. You are a peculiar people. Sometimes I think this could apply to us because I've come across some pretty peculiar people that are not Jews!

    But the word peculiar (PERIPOIESIN) means people of a possession. That you should shew forth the praises of him who has called you out of the darkness into his marvelous light: So, he's bringing up this stone of salvation.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (1 Peter Part 8b):

    1 Peter 2:8 Continued

    To the ones stumbling at the word, being disobedient: again, refusing to be persuaded, and to which also they were appointed, that is, to stumble because of their disobedience. Now it's interesting about this stone. We've seen PETROS, we've seen Petra, and we've seen LETHOS as we have here. But it's interesting what Jesus said in His public ministry using LETHOS.

    When Jesus saw them, beheld them, He said what is this then that is written, the stone, the LETHOS, which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner. He's quoting from the same Isaiah Chapter 28 text. Whosoever shall fall upon this stone shall be broken. But on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. So, a person only has one of two choices. You voluntarily fall on the stone, which is Christ, and be broken, or if you reject Him, He will fall on you and grind you to powder.

    Is it A, or is it B? That's basically the Lord's presentation. There was no C, or none of the above. And for every person's life, those are the two choices. Lay down your life, surrender to Christ to be broken. Or if not, He will fall on you and grind you to powder in the great judgment.



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