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Hello Deborah. If you look at the following verses, your query should be answered: Revelation 1:1; Revelation 22:8,9,16; which then answers Revelation 19:9,10.

One could compare this to the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai ( Deuteronomy 33:2), when the LORD God came down upon the mount with ten thousand of His saints (angels), of whom it was said (in Acts 7:53), were present & used of God in some way in that delivery. There are various interpretations of this verse, but it can be seen that angels, at least certain angels, played an important part in the impartation of God's Message, which were actually voiced & given by the LORD & the risen Savior.

Hello again, Jimbob,

As you asked, here is what I can share on Matthew 24:29-31. I will need more than one post to give you, my understanding.

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These verses speak of the promise of Jesus' second coming. Understanding the 7-steps of a Jewish wedding helps give a better understanding of Christ's second coming, and also some of the Jewish views about when Christ is coming back. If you would like for me to send you what the 7-steps are, I will do so. It is very interesting, I promise! They are literal steps of a Jewish wedding, and they parallel the things spoken of in Matthew's gospel.

So, reading through Matthew 24:29-30, it says that immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give any light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn.

Now the word "tribes" is very important. That tells us that we are talking about Jewish people. It is a Jewish term. All the tribes of the earth shall mourn. And they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. All the tribes! Again, that would be Jews.

In Revelation 1:7, it tells us that every eye will see Him, even those who have pierced Him. Zechariah 12:10 is a prophecy that the Jews hold to, only they don't understand its application. It says that when Messiah comes, they will look upon Him whom they have pierced.

So, at this time when Christ comes (at His second coming), the Jews who are left on the earth, they are going to mourn, and they are going to look and go "Oh no, we crucified our Messiah, and here He is!" They are going to recognize Him. And we see in Verse 31 that the Lord's going to round them all up. It says in this verse that He's going to come upon the clouds of heaven. That's given to us in Daniel 7:13.

To be continued...

Hello Richard. Although the English language has had continual changes over the years, it is generally accepted that the KJV, translated in 1611, eventually was revised in 1769 into today's (Modern) English.

According to a bar graph of the history of the English language, when the KJV was first translated (in what was called Early Modern English), this era began in the late 1400s till the early 1600s. So, in a sense, had the 1611 KJV translation work waited a little longer, it might have made it into the Modern English era. I wonder how those translators & printers would have felt when that change, however gradual, happened!

What year was the 1611 translation updated to todays english

God wasn't created. He's always been. This includes Jesus, who has always been as it says in John 1:2. Jesus wasn't created, but is the creator as the Bible says. Some falsely assume begotten means something other than what it means. Jesus chose to become a man and be born in the flesh and lived and died among us for the forgiveness of our sins. The Bible says Jesus is the King of Kings and Alpha and Omega and Almighty God. Revelation 1:8, 1 Timothy 6:15, Revelation 19:15-16.

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Hi Ani. GiGi has shared accurately with you and I would like to add some more thoughts for your study & consideration.

I'm unsure where you obtained this particular Bible study book from, as it's clearly slanted towards 'keeping of the Law'. Does your Church support this teaching or are you doing this study by personal choice?

Firstly, the Jewish Sabbath has always been the Saturday (from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) & was given to Israel as part of the other commandments for them to observe ( Exodus 20:8-11). Why was this particular Command given? It was the seventh day when the LORD ceased from His Work of creating & it was for a remembrance when God brought out His people "with a mighty hand & a stretched out arm": i.e. from the perennial state of bondage & hard labor in Egypt to a time of liberty & rest. Even when Israel collected their food (Manna) while in the desert, they were not allowed to gather it on the seventh day ( Exodus 16:19-30), indicating the sanctity of the Sabbath Day.

Secondly, the Christian observance of Sunday, is not a redefining of the Jewish Sabbath - it is what is termed, the Lord's Day ( Revelation 1:10), or the First Day of the Week ( Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2) - never the Sabbath.

Thirdly, the Church is not required to observe the Jewish Sabbath as we were never in bondage in Egypt & brought into Canaan. We were however, once in bondage to sin & the flesh & now given a glorious forgiveness & release into the Lord's Rest. See Matthew 11:28-30 and Hebrews 4:1-11. Not only is the Christian given Christ's Peace in his heart, but also a resulting rest that comes only from Him. And yet, there is also a coming rest ( Hebrews 4:9), where the word here is 'sabbatismos', or Sabbath Rest: a rest in God's Presence that will be one continual Sabbath Rest, when our earthly toils & hardships are finally over.

Hello Kobe Southern,

Interestingly, after studying scripture I've noticed, GOD gave mankind dominion, on Earth. Genesis 1:26,27,28, GOD didn't take that dominion away, people have misused their powers. They/we will all give account: Revelation 1:5-8, Romans 14:12, Daniel 4:3,34, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18,

Jesus was here to show us how to bring His Kingdom the Kingdom of GOD on Earth, with Love, John 3:16-21, John 13:34, Romans 12:10, 1John 4:7,12, 1Peter 3:8, John 15:17, James 2:13-17, Luke 13:34,

one day all dominion will go to Christ: 1Corinthians 15:20-28, Romans 16:20,

Galatians 4:1-8, Colossians 3:21,

Matthew 20:25-28, Ephesians 1, (whole chapters) 1Peter 4, Jude 1,

Jesus gave all that believe in him, authority under heaven: from GOD ALMIGHTY: Matthew 28:18-20, Matthew 6, Luke 11, Mark 3:15, Acts 4:30,31, Luke 9:2,

We all have power in the natural if even just to comfort someone else, & as we grow in faith, supernatural power in prayer, through GOD & Christ Jesus our Savior.

Hopefully these are helpful

Hi Renee.

We learn a lot about the 24 elders Revelation 5:9-10.

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast REDEEMED US TO GOD BY THY BLOOD out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

And hast made us unto our God KINGS AND PRIESTS: and we shall REIGN ON THE EARTH.

1) We know they were redeemed.

2) They were made Kings and priests.

3) They shall reign on earth.

I believe this represents the Church.

Here's why.

They were redeemed out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation. Ephesians 1:7.

They were made kings and Priests.

1st Peter 1:9.

These kings and Priests shall reign on earth.

Revelation 1:5-6.

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Hi Giannis.

I believe Alsie is asking about "the image given" in Revelation 1:13-16. Is the description literally as what Christ really looks like.

Are you saying the vision John is seeing is the angel in verse 1?

If so, I believe the person "who I believe is Christ answers this in the text especially in verses 17 and 18.

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

17) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

18) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

God bless.

Hi Alsie.

When we read Revelation 1:14-16. we see a symbolic picture of the Glorified Christ in his royalty.

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

: His head and his hairs were (white) like wool, as white as snow. This speaks of his eternity, his the ancient of days.

: His eyes were as a flame of fire. That speaks of his penetrating insight of the total life of the church. He even knows our thoughts and intentions.

: And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace. This speaks of his Judgement.

: His voice as the sound of many waters. I believe that speaks of his authority.

I hope this helps along with the others contributing to answer your good question.

God bless.

That's a great question, Alsie. I sort of take the middle road on that. Though the Book of Revelation has a lot of imagery in it, which was what was revealed to John so he could comprehend or make sense of it, there are also real people & real events depicted in it which have to be accepted factually. When I read Revelation 1:13-16, clearly we have the Person of Jesus before John, Who both looked at John and touched him. Jesus had a garment on with a chest sash and His Voice had a tone & pitch unlike anything he had heard. Although, certain aspects were possibly hid from John, so that Jesus' Hair, Eyes, Feet, & Countenance could only appear as unusually radiant, sufficient for mortal man to see. Maybe the heavenly beings see the Father & Son in some other way; the Father Who is Spirit & Jesus, the Man, God's Word made flesh, now glorified.

When we all get to heaven,

What a day of rejoicing that will be!

When we all see Jesus,

We'll sing and shout the victory!

Hallelujah.

The angels are the pastors of those churches. As the angels are God's messengers, similarly they are the pastors who bring God's messages(Word of God) in the church.

Who are the 7 angels to the 7 churches

Matthew 6,

Possibly they forget or don't know Jesus said not to.

Why do people chants specific men's

Michael,

Revelation 4:1 is the verse that's used by those who believe that the believers will be raptured prior to the Tribulation Period, because number 1, the door had been opened, and number two, a trumpet was talking to him (John).

It's the same as Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 4:13, I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that you sorrow not, as others which have no hope.

He had just said in this chapter that the trump of God would sound. It would be a great shout, and the trump of God would sound. And so here is the trumpet talking to John saying come up here.

And those who hold the Pre-Trib. position see that as equivalent to the rapture of the church that is happening.

And from here on, John will see everything from heaven, and the church will no longer be on the earth, but the multitudes will be in heaven.

And many believe that's an indication, among other scriptures, especially 1 Thessalonians Chapter 5 where it gives us the Tribulation Period, and he says this is for the wrath of God, and we (believers) have not been chosen for the wrath of God.

Yes. come lord jesus christ!

Please read Mark 13, Matthew 24, Jesus words about His return, Revelation 10, 1Corinthians 15:52, 2Thessalonians 2, 1Thessalonians 4, Revelation 6,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

Is Ch 4 of Revelation when Belivers are raptured? God bless..thank you.

The Spiritual Dimension

...The life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God..." That is part of Galatians 2:20. His Spirit also testifies with our spirit that we "are children of God" according to Romans 8:16. Scripture cannot be read alone with mental faculties and understood as God's truth unless these realities exist; namely being Born of the Spirit ( John 3:6-8) makes the Word living and active in our hearts ( Hebrews 4:12).

Scriptural truth also is what separates the God of truth and His angels from the fallen angels and demons that are the ruling principalities and powers of this world in this age ( Ephesians 6:12). Thus; we can experience God whether "in or out of the body" ( 2 Corinthians 12:2) as Paul did and by extension a demonic spiritual "trip" can occur much in the same way.

Anyone realistically wanting to understand 2 Corinthians 5:8 on being absent from the body; present with the Lord will understand that being in His presence as a believer is overwhelming to the extent that John fell at His feet as though dead ( Revelation 1:17). This is all the more telling since he was the disciple who always was closest to Jesus and even in his own testimony most loved ( John 13:23 and apparently in 4 other verses).

If we are NOT truly in Christ then there is only the terror of the Lord and of course immediate judgment and condemnation for those who are goats rather than sheep. Thus; those who promote a false gospel even if they were brain dead and came back to life God allows them to continue here for a while for His purposes. It would seem that it is possible as long as a body can be resuscitated for a few minutes that this can occur; that is a far cry from Lazarus being raised from the dead or the Lord Himself.

In any case, anyone preaching a gospel other than the truth let him be "anathema" ( Galatians 1:8); and that includes angels as well. To know we are hearing from God being saved is a minimum requirement.

Tim,

It tells us that out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices:

This will be the expression of God's judgment whenever He judges. We see it throughout the book of Revelation. There will be lightnings and thunderings and sounds coming out from the throne.

It says, and there were seven lamps of fire before the throne, which are the (seven spirits of God).

We see these seven spirits back in Revelation 1:4. And if we follow it through in Chapter 4, along with Revelation 5:6, it tells us that these seven spirits of God are the seven eyes of God going throughout the world.

It is the seven fold complete ministry of the Holy Spirit held by both the Jews, and of course the scripture itself teaches that.

In Zechariah Chapters 4 and 10, it also tells us that the seven lamps are the seven eyes of the Lord, the all-seeing one.

So before the throne, the seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of God (The 7 eyes of God).

In Revelation 5:6, we have a Lamb that had been standing there as it had been slain, having seven horns and (seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God), sent forth into all the earth.

Daniel Chapter 7 tells us that the horns represent power and authority. And of course the eyes, again, Zechariah tells us that the Messiah has seven eyes. I don't believe it is talking about the literal eyeball.

The word seven in scripture means complete. It means that He (God) is in complete authority, and He sees everything fully and completely.

Hope this helps!

Dear Joyce: It should be kept in mind that only Christ is worthy to open the seals (starting in Revelation 6:1). There are many novel explanations today including some ridiculous assertions that somehow the seals are some sort of symbolic reference to evil in believers lives that we are to conquer. Others insist that the seals already are in operation.

If we take the literal meanings we can easily see that we have never seen a WORLDWIDE (pardon the shouting) judgment in which 1/4 of the population dies has ever occurred. The first seal clearly IS Antichrist; not the "church" overcoming the world during the church age. If that were the case why would it state that no one was found worthy except for Christ to open them? God has purchased His bride; and will redeem them from the earth as "kings and princes" (see Revelation 1:6).

The judgments of war; famine and pestilence are seen many times as themes in the Books of Isaiah; Jeremiah and Ezekiel among other places. In any event the first seal certainly IS judgment; as Daniel itself indicates a man of intrigue who signs the Daniel 9:27 covenant; and the theme of conquering through submission is a common theme in Islam; hence their Mahdi is "coincidentally" said to rule for seven years at the end of the age. This will involve someone who will probably introduce a gold standard and or worldwide financial system tdhat will essentially redistribute wealth as well as eliminate debt; give Israel promised protection from it's enemies (which we can see starting with the "Abraham accords" and will come into final fruition when the covenant is "confirmed".

The second seal involves a removal of whatever peace there was. With the "restrainer" removed ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7) men will simply start acting out with murders; and then famine will occur followed by "death and hell" with the fourth seal. The horses behind it probably are demonic forces controlling regional areas or the "4 corners" of the world.

It's Israel, because the twelve stars represent 12 tribes. See Genesis 12:9: "And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.". The church does not have 12 stars, but SEVEN: "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches." ( Revelation 1:20). And as for Mary, she does not represent all twelve stars, save in the fact that she's an Israelite.

Oh Lord Jesus your the saven star's and the wind of my since and my family and my heart and my life and my way i pray with your name in my heart Lord your the son of God and your haw father in heaven and earth and truly Lord open doors for me and guide me every time

Hi Joyce,

We have been living in the last days since Jesus ascended to sit at the right hand of the Father. If you read the Epistles and Acts you will find verses that say that they were living in the last days then.

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Regarding the 7 yr tribulation , Jesus said "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." ( Matthew 24:21,22) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. The one who gets taken out of the way is this anti-christ here in 2 Thessalonians 2:7

No man knows the day or hour of the Lord's return. In the book of Revelation, we are reading about the prophecy of events pertaining to the seven-year tribulation which will happen after the church (Body of Christ) is raptured to be taken out of the way of God's judgment to come upon the earth. Things we are seeing today are happening on a global scale and are the beginning of the end as I see it. The focus would be on Israel for the Bible tells us about the times of the Gentiles coming to a close and God turning back to Israel to fulfill His promise to Abraham as a people of earthly inheritance. Israel did become a nation in 1948 and has flourished as a people returning back to their homeland and the land has blossomed as prophesied in the bible. All these signs are before us today and we can say we are in the generation to see the Lord as mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24:34. My heart rest in the fact of what Jesus said to not let your heart be troubled for where He is there you will be ( John 14:1-3). Promise is; where I go, He goes, and I can rest in the fact that He will never leave me nor forsake me. So, as a Child of God greater is He that is within me than he that is in the world. We are not on the losing team so why worry about tomorrow when we have now and can look forward to our eternity with Christ. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh (Luke21:28).

Are we living in the last days?

Amen Adam.

I would like to add Revelation 1:8

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

I also like Malachi 2:17- Malachi 3:1.

"Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, WHERE IS THE GOD OF JUDGMENT?

BEHOLD, I WILL SEND MY MESSENGER, AND HE SHALL PREPARE THE WAY BEFORE ME: AND THE LORD, WHOM YE SEEK, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

Now fast forward to where the prophecy was fulfilled.

Mark 1:1-3. The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

As it is written in the prophets, BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE THY FACE, WHICH SHALL PREPARE THY WAY BEFORE THEE.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Matthew 11:7-10. And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.

But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

John the baptist prepared the way for God to as prophesied.

God bless.