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Did you reply to the right person? Your topic seems very different.

Why did God walk them around till all of the older generation died off ?

He gave them everything: clothes and shoes that didn't wear out; manna from Heaven and water.

God was good to them, yet they still whined.

Finally, they were ready to go over into the Promised Land. Moses was not to go with them, but he did get to see it as he climbed the mountain where he died. He gave everything he had to Joshua, to lead the people over.

Why did the older people never go inside of the tent of God's presence? Why did they stand outside and never go in?

God created Adam in his image and likeness. He gave Adam DOMINION over the earth and all the creatures on it.

He did not give Adam dominion over other humans.

There were "inhabitants" living on earth, who were the 1/3 of created angels who revolted and followed SATAN to the earth. They had bodies at that point. However all of them DIED in the flood of Noah. They no longer had bodies. Their spirits survived to become principalities and powers; DEMONS.

Their desire now is to find human bodies to inhabit.

Jesus cast out devils from one possessed man, and the demons begged Jesus to let them possess some pigs. He did but the pigs ran over a cliff and Died. No bodies again.

There are lots of people on earth that invite demons to inhabit their bodies: people in the occult. ie: witches, warlocks, card readers, phone-a-psychic, astrologers, people who read their horoscope every day!

The Bible mentions 'familiar' spirits (demons). They have no bodies so they can look through your past history and give you the info and then people believe people who give readings are the real deal.

They want to turn people away from God and His Word (The Bible) to get a word of encouragement; as we do in here. We encourage and teach others what we have learned. I know God doesn't want us to read our horoscope and later, read a chapter of the Bible. That is a MIXTURE, and God hates mixtures. Look it up.

Most Churches do not teach on these matters! They don't want to scare your Tithe, elsewhere. Pay for silence. Then you experience some horrid things in your life and you wonder why God doesn't love you? Why doesn't He answer your prayers?

Put it together! Why should He speak to you if you're going to run to an occultist or psychic, to get a word too??

Throw out your idols! Your heart will lead you to them. If you have extended family that does that stuff; stay away. If your church won't mention it? Find another who does. Get free.

Mishael I forgot this companion scripture to the church with Moses

Acts Chapter 7

36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years.

37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and [with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sinai

39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust [him] from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

proverbs 14:26

Mishael - Paul says to the Corinthians (A city in Greece) that the church was with Moses in the wilderness.

The church did not start in Acts, it was already there under Moses.

1 Corinthians Chapter 10: 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all OUR FATHERS our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto MOSES Moses in the cloud and in the sea; (Red Sea)

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; (Manna)

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

So was Paul the apostle to the "Gentiles" and it seems he was not speaking to Jews? After all Paul is in Greece.

2 easy questions for you

1. Does God love everyone? (exclude Satan) Humans only

2. Would the Lord deceive people?

Scriptural proof only please. the answers might surprise you.

The first church is mentioned in ACTS 2:47

(2:40-47)

"And THE LORD added to the CHURCH daily such as should be saved."

People build big buildings with great beauty, art; sculptures, but they can be dead as a door nail without Jesus in it by the Holy Spirit.

Get a grip. The people are out in the streets now. No apathy. Everyone's turned on to a cause. The Church needs to be out in the street too! Hand out some tracts. How do we know this isn't a move of God going on right now?! We're all banished from going to church so we're hiding out in the house.

You just want to hash for days how much you can expound on churches of the past.

Guess what? It was in the news how all the ancient churches have been sold to pay Taxes, so now they are reborn as event centers, restaurants with real art. Google it! Maybe we should consider what Peter said: it's all going to burn.

Is the hourglass full or empty?

Cris, your statement: "Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Isreal not the whole world", indicates to us that you hold little or no regard to the rest of the New Testament. Am I right? If so, I can't offer further comment.

But if I'm wrong & you do believe in the NT as well, then please consider these few verses (to which matter there are many more verses): of Paul, Gal 1:15,16; Acts 9:15,16; Rom 15:15-18; etc. Why was Paul sent by Christ to minister to the Gentiles? Apparently, so that they too could hear the Gospel & be saved (1 Thes 2:8-16, especially verses 14-16), therefore fulfilling the Lord's Word that He had 'other sheep' that still had to come into His fold ( Jn 10:14-17).

You might be "for my people 12 tribes of israel" & that is wonderful, but since Israel was cut out from the olive tree because of their 'blindness to the Messiah' ( Romans 11, especially verses 18-25), they are in desperate need for the "fullness of the Gentiles" to be accomplished before they will one day be saved. It's not possible to rule out clear & abundant Scripture showing that Christ came for all people, Jew & Gentile alike, rather we ought to be concerned for the many who are going into a Christ-less eternity having never heard the Gospel & opportunity to be saved (I speak here not of God's election but man's concern & responsibility).

I disagree with the color agenda. But I also disagree with the reference of scripture. If you will read that part of Revelation it is speaking of Jesus as a judge. The White Hair, The Bronze Feet. The Bible says that Jesus was from Nazareth. A place in Israel that was commonly Hot and Dry. Yes all of these men had a tanned skin. But Cris, the Bible does say that Jesus came into the world not to condemn it, but that it might be saved. He did not only come for the Israelites he grafted all into the vine. So that all men(women) might be saved.

Jesus said otherwise in the Bible. Luke 19:10, Acts 17:26, John 12:46 - he came to save the lost of all people, not just who you claim are your 'own people'. Why do you care about skin color so much? Why not eye color? Why not height or weight? We're all individuals of equal value, not members of fictional political tribes. Satan is deceiving people into believing they are unequal and trying to divide everyone and some are believing the lie.

Lamentations 4:7 - you know Jesus was from Nazareth, right? This says they're white so that counterbalances the assumption that because someone's hair is like wool it must be black. Other races can have wool-like hair too. There's plenty of hair variety within the races.

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire: (Ruddy means reddish as in blush)

Revelation 1:14 - His (Jesus) HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

(Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. The world hates white Christians especially it seems today.

Who printed the Bibles and built the churches? Europe and the USA or Africa and asia?

Revelation 14 hair like wool only black people have hair of wool I know that people like to always say middle eastern because they can be more comfortable with that than saying Jesus was an israelite from the tribe of Judah a black man Color does matter to me because my people have been lied to and still being lied to about the physical appearance of the Isrealites Lord and savior he did not come to save the world only the Nation of Isreal before just reading only John 3 16 also read Mathew 15:24 you have to read the bible precept upon precept Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Isreal not the whole world every one has their own interpretation but I'm for my people 12 tribes of israel

Middle Eastern Jews today are medium olive skinned just like Jesus and others were 2,000 years ago. But most were probably very tan and dark, because they walked outside long distances. That opinion is based on scripture and evidence. However, I also don't care what the exact color is. It makes zero difference what his skin pigment is nor anyone else's. It's like people are trying to earn political or social points for their own team by convincing themselves someone they like is a certain skin color. I think doing so is wrong. Jesus died for everyone- he already said that in the Bible, so pigment is irrelevant and it really detracts from the message to keep talking about it.

Edomite with black feet as if they were burnt in a furnace how so Jesus was a black man i know its hard to digest because of the false truth that has been the portrayal since The Roman Catholic church which is the synagogue of Satan Jesus Christ is a Black Man from the tribe of Judah

Ok thank you Jesse GOD bless you love to everyone x

Jon,

I am going to assume that by you saying you really want to be saved that you are not saved now? I don't know if that is a correct assumption or not, but if you have not yet called upon the Lord Jesus Christ for His mercy, and ask for Him to come into your heart and save you, you need to do so if you truly are seeking salvation. Anyone can say the words "Jesus is Lord" with their mouth, but calling out to Christ to save you needs to come from the heart.

There is no magic formula that I can share with you on how to be saved other than telling you to call out to Christ. You need to receive Him. He has promised to save anyone who comes to Him asking for forgiveness and mercy ( Romans 10:13). As for the drug issue, there are professional agencies probably where you live that can help you with this issue, but you need to seek the help. However, the main concern is for your spiritual welfare. That must come first. Please call out to Jesus Christ to come into your life. Cast all your cares on Him. Everything else will work itself out in His timing. We serve a very powerful Savior who is able to take on all of our troubles, no matter how big or small.

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The SEVEN STARS are the ANGELS angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Seems to me that each church has an angel for protection

Jon,

You say you were recently born again? If so, then you have God's Spirit in you. You can't be born again without His Spirit. When you receive Christ, His Spirit (Holy Spirit) comes into your spirit and seals you. That is a spiritual birth. That is what it means to be born again. So when you say you are born again, that is proof that you have His Spirit.

How do I know if I'm blessed with the holy spirit I was recently born again and I'm not sure ?

Greetings Linda, you ask "where does it say in the bible that white people have to kiss and bow before all black/black Isrealites feet and ask for forgiveness for being white."

Easy that is in the gospel of Judas 66:6 (sarcasm)

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire: (Ruddy means reddish as in blush)

Revelation 1:14 - His (Jesus) HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

(Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. The world hates white Christians especially it seems today.

Find out who owns the media that HATES JESUS and Christians.

Easu is the Europeans...red, Edomites......ok

Ira, you write prove you wrong Jesus was not white? Well here you go but I am not sure you shall believe the Bible.

Revelation 1:14 - His [Jesus] HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

(Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN, not black) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

My Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem and you claim your Christ was crucified in America? what?

so did whites transliterate the Bible?

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Revelation 1:14 - His (Jesus) head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

(Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN) as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Awesome ,bob ,im so thankful peep are out there ,giving truth , just want to say spot on ,thank you holy father for giving us discernment!! on yeshua true day of crucifix!!

Carlos ...

The entire Word of God was written by Jews and was written to the Jews, with exception of The Apostle Paul, The Apostle of The GENTILES.

That is YOU!

The Revelation is a book of PROPHECY ... to The 7 Churches of Asia that existed during Paul's day.

Revelation 1:3

Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this PROPHECY, and keep those things written therein: for the time is at hand.

You see, The Tribulation was right around the corner for those Jews living during Paul's day, and the books Hebrews through The Revelation are written to prepare the Jews for the SOON Tribulation.

BUT, what happened? How come it DID NOT happen right away?

Answer: Paul and The Body Of Christ

These 7 churches of Asia were JEWISH . . . 7 Candlesticks, Angels, Works, Synagogue, Doctrine of Balaam, Hidden Manna, White Stone, Jezebel, White Linen, Priests, Key of David, New Jerusalem, The Lamb, Lion from The Tribe Of Judah, and on and on.

None of The Revelation has anything to do with YOU!

Thank goodness!

Hebrews - The Last Days, Prophets, Throne, Anointed With Oil, Heirs Of Salvation, Signs and Wonders, To Call Them Brethren, Seed Of Abraham, Bondage, Make reconciliation for the sins of the people, Moses, House, Provocation, and on and on . . . ALL JEWISH.

James . . . To the Twelve Tribes Scattered ... JEWISH!

Peter . . . To the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia . . . ALL JEWISH!

123 John . . . Unto The ELECT Lady ISRAEL . . . JEWISH!

Jude . . . Feasts, Error Of Balaam, Egypt, Moses, Angels, Garment spotted, Last Time, Looking for the Mercy . . . JEWISH!

The Tribulation . . . The Time Of Jacobs TROUBLE!

WHEN did Jacob have TROUBLE?

The 1st 7 years Jacob worked for Leah... the 2nd 7 years Jacob worked for Rachel, whom he loved, that was TROUBLE! The Kingdom promised to Abraham and David will come and The Jews will inherit The Earth!

God is going to KEEP HIS PROMISE!

Greetings Yes: I do not like images depicting Jesus as you mention that many post on fakebook.

However Revelation 1 has a description of Jesus.

Revelation 1:14 His (Jesus) head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a FLAME OF FIRE flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN BROWN as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. (California surfers have a golden brown tan)

Eyes as a flame of fire could well be blue, since a gas stove flame is blue, with shades of yellow and red.

some push this to become racial pride and the Bible speaks against pride.

I was demon possessed at one time: an astrologer. I knew God had all the answers to life, but I couldn't hear Him. I turned to stars & planets to explain why my life was so painful. When you serve Satan, he's not satisfied with just deceiving you. He's got you and he'll keep you busy till you miss out on the Rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

Does weird stuff go on in your home? That would be the demons.

I didn't have a normal Baptist type of salvation experience. I was interpreting a horoscope for a friend. God just peeled back the room like a page in a book and let me see, Revelation 1:14-16; parts of it:

" His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes as a flame of fire! And his voice as the sound of many waters (the scariest part). And out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shining." I was blinded for a second and my ears were hearing my friends voice: IT seems to have some truth, but the Bible says it is wrong! She made a hasty exit out of the house. I was still hearing 2 Timothy 3:5, over and over.

I went to the bookcase to read my Bible I had never used. WHY was it wrong? I read every verse on stars, planets, astrology and the Death Penalty for doing it. I closed the Bible and laid my head on it, saying, I deserve to die. Then the floor became a vision of hell.

I crouched on top of the chair, my eyes seeing gross and unclean to the 10th power.

I'm trying to look for an escape! I become aware of an invisible Hand, held out to me from the ceiling. I stood up to take the Hand. Then I fell on the floor, but the vision was gone! I know that is when I was delivered from the demons in me. It was VIOLENT and I lost consciousness. Next morning, Everything looked the same but more peaceful. I saw the astrology books & immediately wanted them gone! I rid my house of all idols that day. I told my friend what happened. Saved on Yom Kippur '85. You get saved too, now.

I need more information on Reverlations.

What race was Jesus? well maybe this shall explain. Revelation 1:14 - His [Jesus] HEAD head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass,

[Brass is made of copper which is REDDISH GOLDEN, not black] as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

In Daniel 10:21, Gabriel makes reference to the Book of Truth and what is written in it. Is what is written in the Book of Truth or Book of Life, as it is called in the NT, what God knew would happen or what God wrote He would do? Are the names written in the Book of Life those God knew would believe, or those God decided to save? Are the vessels of Rom 9 what God knew He was going to do, or what God determined to do? Are God's Plans, plans or things He knew would take place?

God created with a Purpose. He created with a Plan. Can an architect design a house without a Purpose? Can he build it without a Plan? To say that God only knew what was going to happen, make His statements about what He is going to do, meaningless. Did God just simply know the earth was going to be flooded and warned Noah? Or did God do it on Purpose? Did God promise not to destroy the earth again with a flood, because He knew that was what He was going to do? Is God a seer that merely reveals what He sees in the future?

There is a misconception that because God is eternal and not subject to time and space, He can observe past, present and future. And that therefore, He knows everything. Is He like the train hobbyist that builds a train set with hills and roads and stands over it observing everything that takes place. So, did God create the universe and mankind, or was it something He just happened to know would happen on its own?

If the Future has control, does God? I can be omniscient and know how everything functions, yet not know what I am going to do tomorrow. God is neither limited by His omniscience, nor by the Future. Have a look at Isa 23:8, "Who planned this against Tyre...? The LORD of Hosts planned it, to defile all its glorious beauty, to disgrace all the renowned of the earth." Not only is God telling us that He Planned it, He is telling us He Planned it with a Purpose.

Your thinking is that God created, then stepped back and let things happen. But is that the case?