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I've heard Christians say things like "I can not understand why God would love someone like me." I think that statement is rooted in too high an opinion of self, sort of like Peter's statement to Jesus, "Though all men forsake you I will never forsake you." Peter saw himself as at least as good as or better than the other disciples, which was a misunderstanding of himself and God's word.

The reason I believe saying "I can not understand why God would love a sinner like me" is wrong is because it must either assume I am worse than other sinners, or I cannot understand why God would love any sinners. Either way, that is simply reflecting a lack of understanding that Christians should grow out of.

You are a sinner, true, but so is every other Christian and no Christian is more special or loved than any other believer. There are Christians who walk in disobedience which displeases God but those Christians are still loved by God. I have 8 living children. Some may have more problems than others but I love them all equally as much.

God loves the Christians who walk close to Him as much as He loves the prodigal in the pig pen, but the prodigal in the pig pen is not pleasing God as much as the Christian walking close by His side.

Hello,

Blessings, For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John: 3.16.. Psalms 139 :18-19, How precious also are thy thoughts unto me,O God! how great is the sum of them! If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake ,I am still with thee.The Love of God overtakes all unworthiness, in Jesus Christ ,to you and all the Lord will remember by you in him by Jesus Christ the way given to mankind to the loving heart of God

Dear, i have to get involved :) even if you have received good answers here. We must not forget that we have received grace. The grace ikke live in has mirrored my wisdom and gives me the power of God to testify, pray for people, be salty, be a fellow human being, it is never in compulsion, but the Lord we test our strength. See where you want to go?

Grace dear "Ms. Jackson" is what we should lean on in difficult situations. And we must never forget and do to others as we want others to treat us. This is so that we will walk wisely without bad thinking. I can see your darkness because I've been there myself. That said, the Lord will help greatly. But if there are unforgivable things, you can only help yourself. Such is the rule. We must forgive ourselves first, to clear and forgive others what injustice they have done to us. Get light now!

And never go back to that dark place! We must capture every thought. In order not to let in evil spirits that distort reality and we are bound in chains of sin and misery that only grow. For example, when we see disease in our ranks, there is a possibility that they have not thrown away evil thoughts. But allowed for example doubt, greed, forgiveness, unloving, even further in their lives. That is why we must read the scriptures every day, For encouragement, for peace of mind, not to allow evil thoughts. But openly to the work of God.

In scripture we learn about Jesus' state of mind the same we should have in all purity! Jesus love you i in Christ. John 7:17

May God bless us abundantly with wisdom and the spirit of revelation so that we all will be able to resist the evil day, as you describe. Start your service in this moment, do not wait, you are valuable and do not forget where you were before.

Consider this scripture. If God forgives u when we confess our sins-ought we not to do the same?

One of Satan's names is ACCUSER. He accuses us and then we accuse ourselves .

When we confess our sins and ask for forgiveness; what does God do with those sins we confessed?

Psalms Chapter 103

10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is HIS MERCY toward them that fear him.

12 AS FAR AS the east is from the west, so far has HE removed our transgressions from us.

13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.

note: that is a straight line which is INFINITY. God doesn't keep records of sins we confess and repent of.

Get out of yourself by " Action" doing for those in need. It's what helps me. If you do things already, do more and more. You can say you live your neighbour, but what have you done to show. Like James states faith without works is dead. God judges us on our actions, he knows our intentions and our hearts. When you feel like that you are playing God. God Bless

Matthew 25:31-46, John 12:25, Psalms 139, 1John 4:19, Ephesians 5:29,

Hello Ms. Jackson. If I may consider the second part of your comment first, i.e."I struggle loving myself and consider myself an individual not deserving of God's mercies & graces." "Loving myself" can mean different things to different people. To one, it may mean a lack of self-esteem, often shying away from people. To another, the opposite: believing they're God's Gift to the world, or the world revolves around them. And yet to another, meeting the needs of one's body, mind, emotions, & spirit. If your 'loving yourself, is only confined to 'feeling undeserving of God's Mercies', then you're not alone; if we truly believe that we have sinned & grieved God by our selfish sinful ways & are deserving of nothing but His Anger & Retribution, then that 'feeling' is warranted & given by the Holy Spirit. And yet, we continue to 'love' ourselves by giving due care to our bodies, not only for survival but also for enjoyment of this God-given life.

However, if you have a sense of 'low esteem', then that can arise from a genetic disposition, or even from forces you've faced in your earlier years. I tend to have this sense of having a low regard, not seeing anything of worth about me that would make me of even the slightest value to another person. And yet I know, that in God's Sight, I'm precious, for He has not only sent His Son to pay for the sins of all mankind, but also identified me as one to receive this great blessing of redemption & being fully accepted by Him.

And when I truly understand & believe what has taken place in me by God, my response to Him can only be of real joy & desire to worship Him, please Him, & share His Love with those who would give ear to His Words: 'a devotion with my whole being', as you wrote. And with such love in your heart towards God, with His Holy Spirit continually energizing you produce holy 'fruit' in your life, that love will be manifested also to 'your neighbour'. Let the Spirit work in you to bring out His Fruit of Love to all.

How can I Love God with a holistic devotion with my whole being, love my neighbor as myself, when I struggle loving myself and consider myself an individual not deserving of God's mercies & graces?

DEAR RICK

Your question made me think of the passage in Philippians 2:5-8 stating "Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross." (NIV)

And Philippians 4:8 which says, "Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy-meditate on these things."

I am sure that others will have something to add.

Fred, Chris & Tom,

While reading your comments, I'm reminded of Saul. 1Samuel 10:1-12, 1Samuel 10:26, 1Samuel 11:6, even 1Samuel 19:19-24,

1Samuel 18:12

I guess that's where "we work out our own Salvation with fear & trembling" comes in. Philippians 2:2, Paul writing these also while in bonds Philippians 1, Philippians 4:23,

Even, Solomon 1Kings 11:9,

Rejoice in the LORD always, Philippians 4:4, Romans 5:2, 1Thessalonians 5:16, 1Peter 1:8, Psalms 118:24,

John 16:22,

Revelation 19:7, isn't quite here yet

You asked "how" to find Philippians 4:13, it should link you to this verse on the website. Also on the site top it has tabs for KJV version & 1611, if you click either, you can search Books, either in Table of Contents page, or by name, in search bar on right under header/heading on page.

If you're asking how to find how, [To do all things through CHRIST who strengthens me.]

1st, please read the verses prior in Philippians 1, note Philippians 1:6,9,10,11, &

2nd, Philippians 4:4 "Rejoice in the LORD always, again I say rejoice." meaning we can "rejoice" cheer up, (hail) enthusiasticly acknowledge The LORD's accomplishments. Knowing His Power, Truth, Love & compassion & purposes for us. If we Believe & have Faith in HIM & The WORD. For HE has a will & purpose for us all, Philippians 2:13, Philippians 3:21,

Philippians 4:6,7,8,9 are all actions we are to take. Philippians 1:11, Philippians 2:4,14,15, Philippians 3:13,14,

3rd Paul in bonds in Rome it appears, Philippians 1:12,13,14, Philippians 4:23,24, & in context of what he's saying in Chptr 4, verse 13. He says "I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound, every where and in all things. ...." in Philippians 4:11,12,13,

Note Philippians 1:19,20,21,23,24,

He's speaking I believe; the ability to endure even the worst of circumstances. Paul being an example of this: Philippians 1:29, following Jesus' example: Philippians 2:5-8, Philippians 3:8,10,

Hopefully these are helpful to endure any & every thing you have to face

Wendy, you find it by finding what TRUTH is.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Wendy, you are a new creation in Christ.

Christ came as sinful flesh (you were that sinful flesh) and DIED, Wendy, you, sinful flesh died on that cross, and as you died with Christ, you also arose with Christ, a new creation.

Colossians 1:27 ....that mystery....Christ in you ....

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit)(Christ in you) that WORKETH (Spirit)(Christ, not you, you died) in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I (Christ) will put my spirit within you, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statues, and ye shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

And truth shall set you free.

Philippians 4:13 I (Wendy, the new creation) can do all things THROUGH Christ which strengeneth me.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the (works of) the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us that are saved it (the workings of the cross) is the POWER OF GOD.

GBU

How do I find philippians 4:13 ?

I think 1st: it's helpful to be ready personally for our personal "time" of accountability. Romans 14:12, Matthew 25:31-46,

When people push end-times fear it blinds the perspective of our personal lives & robs joy, & time. This is the day the LORD has made, let us rejoice & be glad in it. Philippians 4:4, Psalms 118:24,

Matthew 24:36, no man know the day nor hour, not even the angels in heaven. Jesus gave us much to understand closer to that time. Matthew 24, Mark 13, 2Thessalonians 2, if you notice a common command in these "be not soon shaken, in mind, or be troubled...."

Hopefully helpful

Hello Bridgette, I've liked that name since I was a child & I had a friend named that.

Looks like you said the "gift of worrier" I've had Southern family that would say that. It's probably also called something like "gift of burden " in some churches, sometimes like a discernment that something isn't right, & prayer, intervention is needed. Romans 11:29, 1Corinthians 12, & 13, it seems more like the prophetic gift, to me. You've had great answers about warrior.

But we are not to worry, Philippians 4:6-7,

We are also given talents & things we all can do individually that we ourselves can do well, others aren't necessarily as well at. Those also are giftings of GOD. I don't think we usually know clearly all our giftings but sometimes people see those easier because the things that's 'easy' for you, isn't 'easy' for them. Philippians 1:6,

Hopefully these are helpful

I would drop to my knees and cry like there was no tomorrow.

I would keep my face buried in the floor of the earth with such humiliation of the world and what we are and what they did to him. I am crying now. I would not be able to look up at The Face Of The Lamb As He was,(slain). Him Knowing and sacrificing Himself for my sins yesterday and that day, I out of such humility, would not feel worthy to look upon Him. I so Love LJesus , My Lord, My God, My King, My only salvation.

Looking at Jesus and knowing what pure evil that He took on from the beginning to the end of the world. Really think about that.

Just not being crucified, they, His own People denied Him and acted and watched and spit and called him vile, filthy names, and beat and tortured Him so viscously, beyond recognition, like no other man in the world. He took all that and Jesus could have bailed out. And His Father in Heaven had to watch and could have ended the vile abuse at any time but did not. "For God So Loved The World". Him ransomed 4 us.

Nether Jesus or His Heavenly Father bailed on the world. They should of.

The world is more vile than ever.

I Have committed almost every sin in the Scriptures. But one I have not. I have not Denied My Father in Heaven nor Jesus, The Selfless Lamb.

This kills my heart! For my sins and the sins committed against then and to Him today. I am not worthy. The world is not worthy.

But I want to believe that Jesus would lift my chin and just say with out words, that I am His and He gets Me as He created me. He Knows i love Him. I am seeking His Heart today.

But each day He sees and knows that i seek His Heart like a little child. " I know your heart, I created it. When you cried out, why did I give you that big heart and big shoulders and why you suffered from so

Many and so much , from a little one on,

"Because, you gave those gifts to all." I will see you soon and Keep seeking my Heart. I still Love You." I pray He says.

Deborah

The Greek word "PANTOTE" that is translated in English as alway/always here has the meaning "at any time, at all circumstances".

Of course you don't feel happy when you are ill or hurt or when you loose a person you love.It is impossible to rejoice 24 hours a day, 30 days a month, 12 months a year and so on. The verse doesn't have this meaning As i see it it has the meaning to always trust God snd have faith in Him that no matter what problems come into your life He will never let you down. And even if He decides for His own good reasons to not move away a problem you must still trust Him because His purpose is to get us into His kingdom in Heavens. His grace is on us and sustains us when we face difficult situations.

And His Spirit gives us joy. The fruit of the Spirit is love, JOY, peace... Galatians 5:22. So it is a necessity for God's childrey to ask for and get baptised in the Spirit of God. And get filled with the Holly Spirit when praying so to have God's power available when needed.

My take on alway verse always, is alway means now, before, and in the future. Always could be referring to works like All ways.

Paul in Hebrews words uses the word let slip instead of falling away, slip is different than falling way. It is the little things in scripture that have the most meaning. Especially as you say, during and in the time of temptation.

Steadfastness while in temptation is essential, looking only unto Him!

Beware of those of the concision! Beware vs. in other translation "watch out".

Beware means be aware, verses watch out meaning works again! Watching.

The Holy Spirit will do the being aware for you ! Remember that the Holy Ghost moves and moves within you, keep your eyes on the prize, the race before you , now, and before, and "ALWAY".

In Christ, Fred

Rejoice is English translated, from Hebrew & Greek meanings research indicates= "cheer up, make glad", "make joy", "thrive", "to be well" "to gladden ",

It also means to "Hail" HIM meaning "to greet with enthusiastic approval", "salute", " acclimation of great success "

Understanding these meanings, we can take comfort & even joy in knowing HIS accomplishments, we can rejoice in all things. How would we react if HE arrives in the room? I imagine Jesus walking into a room in the flesh, wouldn't we "rejoice"? Wouldn't we salute Him, cheer or clap? Yes for sure!!! We would jump out of our seats rejoicing! Better than any sporting event, star etc.

We know there's power when Jesus was around & HE makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25, Romans 8:27,

It says Matthew 18:20, HE is with us, John 16:23, John 14:14, Matthew 10:26-32,

When we look at the history of GOD's miracles, deliverances, love & provisions. We can "make glad" & salute HIM, rejoicing in THE LORD, what HE has done, what HE will do, Who HE is

Hopefully this is helpful & encouraging

Dear Deborah , it might be a good idea for you to get a concordance , Strongs Exhaustive is fab , you are going to come across lots of old English words in the Bible as the KJV was compiled and published in the 1600's , the English language has changed quite a bit since then . Most of the words you should be able to figure out for yourself based on the context but a concordance is very helpful . May God bless your efforts .

In the case of Phillipians 4:4 the word translated alway is Greek 104 aei; ever, unceasingly.

Other verses that use this Greek word translated "alway" are:

2 Cor 4:11

2 Cor 6:10

Col 4:6

1 Thes 2:16

2 Thes 2:13

Tit 1:12

Heb 3:10

This Greek word is translated "always" in these verses:

Acts 7:51

1 Pet 3:15

2 Pet 1:12

I hope this helps.

Always means at all times; ever; perpetually; throughout all time; continually when used as an adverb.

Alway is an archaic word that means all along; for all time, perpetually when used as an adverb.

There are several Hebrew and Greek words that are sometimes translated alway and other times translated always in the KJV. The Strong's Concordance dictionary number for each word, its transliteration, definition and the number of times that word is translated either alway or always are given below.

Hebrew

3117 yom; day - alway (4), always (4)

5331 netsach; eminence, perpetuity, strength, victory, enduring, everlastingness - alway (1), always (2)

5769 olam; long duration, antiquity, futurity - alway (2), always (3)

6256 eth; time - alway (0), always (2)

8548 tamid, continuity - alway (4), always (6)

Greek

104 aei; ever, unceasingly - alway (8), always (3)

1275 diaparatribe; always, continually - alway (2), always (3)

1539 hekastote; each time, always - alway (0), always (2)

3842 pantote; at a times - alway (1), always (29)

3956 pas; all, every - alway (1), always (4)

So if you really want to understand any subtle differences in the meanings of the words "alway" and "always" that actually may have been intended by the original author for any given verse you really need a Strong's Concordance with a Hebrew and Greek dictionary.

Deborah, no translation from one language to another is perfect. It matters not whether it is alway are always, we know from other scriptures through God's Word that thanksgiving and praise to God should be unending, in the fire or out of the fire.

Isaiah 24:15 Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires ......

Romans 8:28 For we know that all things (even evil) work together for GOOD to them that love God, to them WHO ARE THE CALLED according to HIS PURPOSE.

GBU

I want to know the difference between the word "alway" and "always". Bible dictionaries state that "alway" is no longer used so it essentially means the same as "always". But I know there must have been a good reason for the KJV translators to originally use the word "alway" instead of "always" in the first place. I believe there are 23 instances in the Bible where "alway" is used. In Phil 4:4 does alway mean to rejoice at the beginning and at the end of a trial - during the course of this trial you won't rejoice because of the pain or suffering but because grace sustains you, you will rejoice at the completion of the trial. You rejoice during the trial because grace is sustaining you but you don't rejoice because your are sick, injured, etc. Am I right?

To always rejoice means you rejoice at every thing that is happening all the time. ??

Thank you...I'm teaching a class and the use of this word will need to be addressed.

Sincerely...all help appreciated...Debbie Eads

Philippians 4:6-7, Psalm 103, Psalm 19:14, Colossians 3:17,

Hebrews 4:12-16. Kjv.

Isaiah 40:31

but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

1 Peter 5:7

Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

Isaiah 12:2

Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The LORD, the LORD himself, is my strength and my defense ; he has become my salvation.

Isaiah 41:10

So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Isaiah 43:2

When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze.

Jeremiah 29:11

For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

John 16:33

I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart, I have overcome the world. (The Cross)

Mark 10:27

Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.

Joshua 1:9

Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.

Philippians 4:13

I can do all this through him who gives me strength.

Psalm 31:24

Be strong and take heart, all you who hope in the LORD.

Psalm 46:1

God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble.

Romans 15:13

May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with HOPE by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Comment: in this world we are aliens. Our true home is in heaven. We can't "fix" this world. God has plans for the ultimate "RESET". 2 Peter 3

We must be careful in how we regard our service to the Lord. As we learn to walk and trust in the Lord God through His word, remember that all good things originate from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Before we start to expect things are due us because of what we do, or what position we hold: God always knows best. Like the old time tv series "Father knows Best." I just dated myself - LOL

Baruch felt he was due better things instead of being dragged around the country side with the remnant that remained in Jerusalem. After all he was the personal scribe to the prophet. He knew the prophecies given to be true and will come to pass. He just thought he should be treated better.

We as believers of Christ the Lord are not entitled to anything. Galatians 2: 20; Colossians 3: 1-3 We have the privilege to seek the wisdom of the Lord God and worship at His feet. We know what the Lord is fully capable of doing and giving. 2 Cor 10: 5 By filtering our thoughts in the Word of God, I can rejoice in Him, be at peace, and have comfort even though we are going through this current Pandemic, Ukraine - Russian war, supply hick ups; soaring gas/oil prices. Philippians 4: 6-10

No matter what happens we can be assured of our salvation in Christ Jesus if we believe and trust in the Gospel. Luke 10: 20; 1 John 5: 11-15. We have confidence in the Lord.

The only solution before us is the salvation of the leaders of world. 1 Timothy 2: 1-4 "...that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty." We must continue to carry out God's will for us. Matthew 28: 18-20.

May the peace of God shine on all on this forum. Know the Lord Jesus Christ, know Peace. No Lord Jesus Christ, no peace. Praying for all as we have the occasion to do so.

Praise His Holy name. March 10, 2022

James 4:13-16

13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.

Faith is not presumption that your will and God's will are the same. Jesus taught us to pray:

Matthew 6:10

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Faith is submission to God's will as Christ submitted His will to the Father's will ( Matthew 26:36-46)

39 And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

44 And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.

True faith looks beyond ourselves. Philippians 4:4-11

4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Please Lord God allow the process for Shirlyn to go smoothly that she can be with her family. Please allow Your healing hand her family member with cancer and her son find peace in You with his separation I pray in Jesus Christ name.

May I suggest you reflect on John 16:33 and Philippians 4:12-13.