Discuss Matthew 5 Page 5

  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Page 1.

    Thanks for your explanation of 'abrogation' Daruled. Though I understand what you're writing, I still can't see how if 'you don't believe in it' (i.e. in this instance by my use of it), yet I can still "use it correctly". Therefore, Matthew 5:18 as you quoted, is of no problem to me as I read that Jesus was born "under the Law ( Galatians 4:4), to redeem them that were under the law" ( Galatians 4:5). He came as a Jew, abiding by the Laws & all the ceremonial requirements, as the Old Covenant was still in force. And as He said, "I am not come to destroy (the Law), but to fulfil"; His purpose was not to remove the Law but to fulfil its demands perfectly (and so He did in His Life & in His Death). He could not be accused to have broken any Law, even though the religious leaders had much to accuse Him of according to their interpretations & inclusions within the Law. They might even have thought of this Man, with this new teaching, as an opponent to 'their brand' of Laws & thus undermining their hypocritical regime. But Jesus said that the true Law's destruction wasn't His purpose of coming.

    But when the Work at the Cross was fully accomplished, the Law that once only led to death giving no hope, was nailed to the Cross ( Colossians 2:14), thus bringing an end to both it & the Old Covenant under which it was enshrined. To Page 2.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This scripture is true. Let's analyze it.

    "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Romans 8:1 KJV

    No condemnation for who? "to them which are in Christ Jesus"

    How about those who aren't really "in" Christ Jesus, but just familiar. Maybe someone's "saved" 30 years ago and inactive since? Maybe doing worldly things here and there, but hey we're all sinners, right? Maybe I'm just following the holy spirit, so its not my fault for indulging in sin sometimes, right?" [satan's deception]

    "no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh"

    "I'm still saved if I walk after the flesh though, right?"

    "who walk not after the flesh"

    This is a qualifier. It doesn't say there's no condemnation to anyone and everyone. It also says those who walk not after the flesh. Those who aren't actively, intentionally sinning. Sinning is turning your back on God. Sinning is like slapping Jesus in the face. Satan is trying to convince Christians that the law doesn't apply, that it's ok to sin. It's not ok. Sin leads to death and still will without Jesus. That is not a license to sin, however. Following Jesus means being a "slave" to righteousness- an intentional effort to take Jesus seriously and truly follow Him. Many say it, few do it. Just because you strive for righteousness and strive to walk in Jesus's example does not mean you're trying to earn heaven. This is the number one straw man argument people keep repeating over and over. Some even take it to the extreme where they say God doesn't want you to obey Him. "It's bad to obey God, and good to NOT obey Him." Who does that sound like?

    Some cherry pick scripture and ignore the following and obedience part. We're still saved by grace.

    "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Matthew 5:17 KJV

    "not come to destroy"

    Luke 6:46 - real followers obey
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jcubria

    To believe as you do you would have to be very deceived to completely ignore tons of bible scripture regarding God's commandments.

    1 John 2:4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him

    Matthew 5:19 "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

    1 John 3:24 "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."

    Jesus knows who really loves Him. John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Jesus kept His Father Commandments, and if we are REAL Christ Followers, we will pick up our cross and follow Christ including doing what He did - and follow God's Commandments.

    Lastly, here is Jesus telling us that we need to follow God's Commandments is we wish to have eternal life. Revelation 22:14"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

    So, you are basically telling others on this site to ignore Jesus and God, and much of the bible scripture!
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesse,

    God hates sin! We need to learn to "hate sin" as much as God hates it!

    Very true..you will not need a Savior when you overcome sin, because you will have have listened to God, applied his commands to your life, and allowed Christ to perform His marvelous work in you, to help you overcome the sins in this life - that you and many Christian's believe is impossible. Nothing is impossible for God! And yes, you will then be ready to enter into the Kingdom and "you will not need a Savior as you say"you will have allowed the Savior to do His miraculous work in you at present!

    Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

    If we keep sinning because we feel that we can't stop sinning we are not following Jesus/Gods commands, nor embracing His Spirit. We are keeping our worldly sinful lives intact, and not listening to His instructions, to give up this life, and live according to His Commands.

    John 8:34 "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."

    John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

    If we are truly born again we will learn to hate sin as much as God. Who do you think wants us to think we can never stop sinning? It's not Jesus/God, because He tells us point blank: To stop sinning!

    1 John 3:6 "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

    1 John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."

    By saying we will never overcome sin we are saying that the Son of God can't overcome the devil's sin that works in us, and that we will always be a servant to the devil.

    We need to read the scripture, and believe, and apply it to our lives now!

    GBU
  • RoseDaisy - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The kjv is what I use. After a personal study for 5 years on which Bible to use. Read kjv Matthew 19:3-9 Matthew 5:31-32 1Corinthians 7:15. You are not sinning. I've been divorced 2 times too. Looking at a 3 and final mart now- it's scriptural. God bless you
  • Jesse - 3 years ago
    INTRODUCTION TO MATTHEW (Part 3)

    TO WHOM IT WAS WRITTEN:

    It was to the Hebrew or Jewish people.

    WHY IT WAS WRITTEN:

    To present Jesus as the Savior/Messiah.

    THEME:

    The theme of Matthew is fulfillment. Matthew alludes to or presents over 60 references to the Old Testament, more than double of any other gospel writer because he is using this word over and over again through his gospel that Jesus came, and he shows the fulfillment of the scripture that Jesus fulfilled, showing them (the Jews), that Jesus was the Messiah.



    The Key Verse for the book of Matthew is Matthew 5:17. Jesus said, "think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets; I am not come to destroy but to fulfill." He didn't come to eliminate the law. He came to fulfill all of its requirements. And that's what Matthew is doing for the Jews, showing that Jesus Christ has fulfilled all the requirements and the commandments of the scripture.

    I mentioned to you that Matthew's gospel is presented in five sections, and I will conclude in (Part 4) how it is broken down.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Brother Carleton.

    Thanks for replying.

    Jesus didn't come to end the law and make it desolate. He came to fulfill the law and perfect it.

    He came to end the Leviticus priesthood where they presented sacrifices that pointed to him.

    ( Matthew 5:17-18.)

    They rejected their king "Which was prophesied" They made their own "HOUSE" desolate. ( A people without a King to set on David's throne )

    What the Prince that shall come does is totally different,

    In Daniel 9:27 he confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.

    This is the same thing mentioned in Daniel 12:11, (The abomination that maketh desolate.)

    This is what Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:15, ( This can't be at the end of Christ ministry because he said it this abomination would be at the end of the world.)

    This 3.5 period is called the GREAT tribulation and it's prophesied towards Daniels "THY PEOPLE, ISRAEL.) Daniel 9:24.

    You see this played out in Revelation 12:6.

    Let's look at who confirms the covenant for 1 week.

    Daniel 9:26-27 reads "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease....

    The Romans destroyed the Sanctuary, Jesus is not their prince.

    Jesus didn't confirm this covenant and cause it to cease at his death.

    Jesus death BEGINS a covenant!

    The covenant in Daniel is a totally different covenant the Antichrist will confirm with Israel and cause the sacrifices to cease midway through the 70th week/Tribulations.

    Revelation 13:15

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.

    God bless.

    See pt2
  • Oseas - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi brother Dan

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth - Matthew 5:5KJV combined with Revelation 5:10

    It's impressive, but it has been two thousand years since JESUS came here, think well about it, passing two thousand years is a gigantic space of time, in fact a huge gap or interval in space and time, but it passed, but will continue to pass. The time is infinite, like the space is infinite too.

    And now JESUS WILL RETURN AGAIN HERE IN THE SAME PLACE from where He ascended to the third heavenly environment and a cloud RECEIVED Him ( Acts 1:11) , yes, He will again return now to the same place from where He ascended, and He will reign and lead us in new celestial environment ( Ephesians 1:3) by His power, for a period of 1.000 years(the cloud also will appear again, understand?) , as it is revealed in Philippians 3:20-21: -->20 For our conversation is in heaven (heaven: Ephesians 1:3. Take a look.)-; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself. By the way, He made it very clear when He said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18KJV.

    Get ready, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him- Matthew 25:6KJV - .

    Lets pray

    Unfortunately , there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
  • Richard H Priday on Luke 15:22 - 3 years ago
    Luke 15 involves an initial encounter with the Pharisees; who are chiding Christ for hanging out with sinners. Thus the Parables in this chapter certainly are meant for them to hear along with the crowds.

    Luke 15:7 "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." Whether this refers to the self righteous Pharisees which Christ described in a similar manner in Luke 5:31 or it literally means people in a right standing with God or both could be debated.

    Luke 15:12 And the younger of them said to his father, 'Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me.' And he divided unto them his estate. What is often missed here is that BOTH sons had their inheritance divided at that time; and it was likely as tradition held the older son would have the largest sum. Something else I noticed here as well that is often overlooked is that the youngest son spent all of his inheritance. Thus; forgiveness was complete but nonetheless we see the concept of loss of reward.

    To avoid not seeing the big picture here; it was clear that the Pharisees had no love for seeing someone repent and finding any joy in it; whether among themselves or the Gentiles. Their concept of God no doubt affected their lifestyle and dogmas; adding hundreds more laws to the Old Testament Canon through their own thoughts and imaginations (which resulted in the Talmud and other extrabiblical uninspired and mystical texts and traditions of men). With this attitude no one sees the need to repent in order to be ABLE to obey the law; at least in regard to the thoughts and intentions of the heart whereby men had to EXCEED the righteousness of the Pharisees and scribes in order to be saved ( Matthew 5:20). What was missing was understanding the nature and character of God and basically worshipping the law itself rather than it's creator. We can only truly love the law if saved.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    Happy Independence Day.

    When we broke off from the State run by the Church (King of England) we wanted freedom of worship. There were other issues; of course such as taxation; breaking free of Colonialist rule and abuse; etc. Pilgrim's pride was probably a lot different than today's definition as to their resourcefulness; and in some cases lives of Holiness that reflected on the whole nation in reard to character; holiness and righteousness.

    It took us longer; of course than England to secure equality for all races; and still later for Women's suffrage to begin. Our history with the Indians also was checkered; there were some kindnesses exchanged and evangelism that had success; but of course there was exploitation of people; confiscation of land and wholesale unnecessary slaughter of the Buffalo which the Indians had as a mainstay of survival and used every part of the animal for sustainability. We later became the world's leading food producer and consumer; also wasting a disporportionate amount of natural resources compared to the rest of the world.

    Now we have swung the other way with hypervigilance in preserving land; and we have given up many of our freedoms; and reduced our own food and other supplies to dangerously low levels after years of silo grain surplus; and recently started depleting the strategic oil reserve after our last President recently built it up to full capacity.

    With the devaluation of life; both born and unborn and the luxuries of life we are as the Roman society was in steady decline and the end is near. Even our founders were a mixture of Christian and Pagan; along with other elements that have constantly come alongside attempting to overthrow our government; and one world government is near. Still; we are the salt and light; let us heed the warning of Matthew 5:13 and not give up on that responsibility with the Great Commission and a personal walk of Godliness in this dark hour.
  • Adam - 3 years ago
    "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15 KJV

    "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19 KJV

    "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:48 KJV

    Romans 6:15-23 - be servants of righteousness

    Luke 6 - you are known by your "fruit"

    "But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it." Luke 11:28 KJV

    1 John 3:24, John 8:51, James 1:22-25, Romans 6:16

    This scripture posting is intended to shine a light of truth to expose what has been deception sometimes posted here before by a few.

    Some have a problem with what Jesus said about obedience and keeping His commandments. Some may even demean what Jesus said and label these words a "works doctrine" or "legalist". A "Christ follower" attacking Christ. Be careful! End times are near.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Chris,

    The Sin of Pride.

    I agree that pride is a sin. When/if we receive praise/adulation we should not be internalizing it - but offering it back up to God where it rightfully belongs. We do all things to please God and all of the Glory adulation is His. If we do internalize it, I agree, it then becomes sin. I believe this verse is applicable here,

    Matthew 5:16

    "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

    GBU
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jema, So sorry to hear about your loss.

    Matthew 5:4

    "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted."
  • Shell surgeon - 3 years ago
    I have been reading recently and again through the books of Genesis, exodus, Leviticus & Numbers. Whenever I do it consistently reminds me of the verses in the New Testament that refer to the Old Testament. Particularly, 2 Timothy 3:15, 16 and 17, Romans 15:4 and Matthew 5:17-20. As all the New Testament was not even evident till long after the Resurrection. When it was canonized into the Holy Bible (king James), we must see the Holiness of the Old Testament, God's voice given to you & me. That is truly what we need to see, the Old joining with the New. That is what completes the Holy Bible and that is what works to complete the human mind. Make it Holy! Set apart.
  • Blessed90 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Pray for your enemy ( Matthew 5:44) I promise it works every time. Watch God work
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thanks Bro. Dan. We've been here before. So "why do so many Christians make such a big deal about following God's Commands." Can't answer for others, but I see that all of God's Commands (whether the Decalogue, or the myriad of other Laws & regulations), applied only to the Jews - for their instruction & performance. None of that applied to me as a Gentile. And none of those laws given to Israel are expected to be recognized by Gentiles. If Jesus didn't come & give His Life to redeem us to God, then as a Gentile hearing of such Laws that God required obedience, might place on me some conviction & responsibility to keep them so as to appease/please the God of Israel.

    So the Decalogue, for example, was given to a specific people for a specific purpose. If I relied only on it to give me finite rules for obedience, then I would fail God. If the command said, "Thou shalt not kill" & I obeyed it & never murdered, then I could say that I had fully kept that commandment. And that is how Israel would have understood it. But Jesus then came on the scene & taught His disciples what 'murder' meant ( Matthew 5:21-24). So here we now have that connection between the old Law that only condemned & brought death ( Romans 7:4-6) & now the Deliverer, through His Sacrifice, Who has "delivered us from the lawthat we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter".

    If one believes that the Decalogue is still binding, that's their choice. But my belief is that those in Christ (of Jew & Gentile) are far beyond the Decalogue & are now indwelt & led by the Spirit ( Romans 8:1-4), that "the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us". My reference can never be to the Decalogue, only to the Holy Spirit who interprets the whole Law, pertaining to life & godly living, helping me to obey & giving power to live it - which the Old Law could never do. I ask, 'why should I go to a system that could never give life, or even syncretize it with the Law of the Spirit'?
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Back to the use of 'hyperbole' in the Bible, David 0921. Hyperbole, or 'an obvious & intentional exaggeration' (Dictionary), is found throughout the Bible. Here in Psalm 58:3 (a babe speaking lies at birth; the emphasis here is on the depth of wickedness found in some people). Is this God's Word? Yes it is. Can God use such language (through his servants) to communicate to us? Yes He can. Are we required then to believe that a new born child speaks lies, or should we learn from such hyperbolic language of the severity of wicked men?

    Lest we think that this is just a rare occasion of such language, we could consider other Scriptures: Deuteronomy 1:28 (cities walled up to the (skies)); Jesus' Own Words: Matthew 19:24 (a camel going through a needle's eye); Luke 14:26 (hating family & one's own life, though 'hate' used as the strongest term for 'total rejection'); Matthew 5:29 (gouging out the eye); John 4:39 (the woman's testimony that Jesus told her every account of her life); and many more.

    So all these are given as irrefutable words that God has allowed into it, including hyperbolic language, metaphors, similes. Yet, they are to be understood as such, or else our understanding would take a dangerous divergent turn that can only lead to error. Which hopefully leads us to the 'eternity' question: are the descriptions of hell or an eternal raging fire for all the unrepentant, factual or simply use of hyperbolic language? So here we have the problem: why would Jesus refer to that time using that type of language, as also the apostles did (or alluded to it), when only the grave is the final destiny of the unsaved? Understood, that heaven & an eternal life in all purity & happiness with our Great God & Savior should be the desire of all; but is this wonderful message alone, sufficient to cause sinners to truly repent & yearn for God's forgiveness, rather, as there is an eternity of bliss, so there is also an eternity of woe that Christ came, giving us an escape route?
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    Church: Beyond the five senses part one

    The introduction concluded with a discussion on the law in scripture. I have found it refreshing that in most Reformed or Orthodox Presbyterian congregations the 10 Commandments are usually read toward the outset of a service on a weekly basis.

    That would cover either a section in Deuteronomy or Exodus; and when in the order of service often elaborated on in the sermon in the New Testament as to the implications with the New Covenant of Grace. What is often missing in the services of say; a Baptist service is a call to penitence and repentance; which sometimes is inserted immediately before a Communion service. Any service which is missing such a call before that sacred event is in grave danger of sin; not warning those to come to the table in a manner worthy of such an event. Matthew 5:23 and 1 Cor. 11:27-29 should be sufficient to warn us of grave consequences of ignoring this warning. Similar admonitions can be given for Baptisms; weddings and membership vows.

    Further scriptures show how those who are in authority as elders and deacons are to be sufficiently mature in their walk and conduct; and still more (especially Corinthians) give the marching orders to establish order in a service so we may go beyond being babes in our faith.

    Just as the law isn't the end all of faith; rather Jesus the author and finisher thereof ( Heb. 12:2) we should of course have agape love toward one another as the preeminent thing; with phileo and other human affections flowing from that foundation.

    The opposite extreme is churches which have at best sidelined and at worst abandoned doctrines of truth for another set of rules; where there is a focus on experience; emotional highs and other manifestations; or in short a creation is worshipped rather than the Creator. We can look at the Corinthians as a good example of a true church which although chaotic wasn't beyond correction; and a false church sold out to Mystery Babylon.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen and well spoken David.

    Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

    Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

    Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

    Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:11-16.

    When that light gets to bright we're asked to put it out.

    God bless you.
  • MountHoreb - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Yes. Pharaoh during the days of Moses.

    is a key example. Exodus 4:4-9

    Despite the evidence, refused to

    believe. Exodus 9:27-30; Exodus 9:33-35

    Denying Jesus was blaspheming against

    the spirit. John 1:14-18; Matthew 5:17,18; Matthew 7:28,29

    and refusing his father in heaven who sent

    Jesus also. Matthew 3:16,17; John 3:14-18
  • Saddle-Shop-Ministries - In Reply - 3 years ago
    hi Giannis! I can see where you might think I was saying that epilepsy is a sin. I was not saying that all cases of epilepsy are sin. The main cause for epilepsy is stress on the body. Whether that stress is caused by sin in the life of the body or by something ells. Only the person struggling with it can tell where that stress is coming from. I was trying to say that according to the KJB and some research that I have done, that the words lunatic and epileptic are derivative from the same latin word lunaticus which originally referred mainly to epilepsy and madness, as diseases thought to be caused by the moon. The King James Bible records "lunatic" in the Gospel of Matthew, which has been interpreted as a reference to epilepsy. I have had epileptic symptoms while committing the sin of adultery therefore the stress of knowing that I am committing sin is causing my epilepsy. It's a shame that we have drifted so fare from God that we start putting names for sin so that we can diagnose it as a disease or mental disorder when God just called it sin. The definition for lunatic is "great or wild foolishness" And anyone that would trade Gods love for pornography, adultery, lust, or any of the things in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 or anything that cools our affection for God is a lunatic and sore vexed with sin. I might add that LUST is a sin. Romans 1:21-32 James 1:14-15 Mark 4:19 Matthew 5:27-28 What I am trying to accomplish in this fast is Psalms 51:9-17

    P.S. Yes I am married to a wonderful woman that is supporting me in this fast and is helping through this. She prays for me every day.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Adam.

    In Matthew 5:20 Jesus says

    "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."

    Then he gives the contrast of the law and how they sought after righteousness and the righteousness imputed over unto us.

    I believe here in Matthew 5:28.

    The Lord is letting us know the unconditional and uncontrollable earthly desires in the heart of a worldly man.

    He's showing how and where sin generates.

    Here the woman is the object of the lust which leads to adultery. Lust is a condition energized by the flesh.

    Hate is a condition energized by the flesh and if it's directed towards someone you're guilty of murder.

    The Lord is showing how sin is in you and the transgression starts before the act.

    James 4:1 explains it this way.

    "From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?"

    Paul put it like this.

    " Romans 7:22-24.For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

    But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

    O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?"

    These are sensual pleasures and Selfish and sinful desires that dwell in all of us and a woman doesn't have to be the object.

    He's pointing out that an exterior restraint or a obedience to a command doesn't keep one from sinning because the sin is in man and he is putting righteousness on a higher plane so no one can boast.

    I don't think it's wrong to notice that someone or something is attractive as we see in Genesis 24:16.

    God bless you.
  • Adam - 3 years ago
    Lust. Matthew 5:28

    I'd like to seek counsel from other brothers and sisters in Christ on what precisely lust is.

    My question is how can we know at what point noticing the beauty of God's creation becomes lust? Is lust imagining a sinful act with a specific person? What if its a daydream fantasy when someone spaces out or a dream while sleeping? Can we be guilty of sin when we're not fully conscious?

    Men and women were created to be physically attracted to each other. We were designed to have excitement and I assume those natural functions are not inherently evil within the proper context, but at some point outside of marriage it is. What exactly is that point? And is it possible to lust within marriage after your own spouse? Thank you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Gigi.

    Part 5.

    Divine light was only found in the Holy Place. Only as worshipers in the present age pass by the cross and laver and come to Christ for light are they truly worshiping God. Christ is the Lamp unto our feet, and the Holy Spirit is the Light unto our path (see Psalm 119:105). Christ said, "I am the light of the world" ( John 8:12). The true believers alone know that to be true.

    Believers today have been sent into the world as lights: "Ye are the light of the world" ( Matthew 5:14).We are merely reflectors, to reflect His light. Only as we walk in Him can we be lights in the world. A reflector must be where the light is, in order to reflect it.

    End article.

    Side note;

    The number 6 is the number for man. Seven is the number of completion.

    We're complete in Christ .

    In the OT the Lord was In the midst of Israel.

    In Revelation 1:12-13 we see the Lord in the midst of the Lampstand.

    In verse 20 the Lord Identify the Lampstand as the seven Churches. Here is the complete Church bearing light on the Lampstand. Revelation 1:20.

    This light also represents our witness. In Revelation 2:5 Jesus tells Ephesus he will remove their candle stick.

    The light isn't meant to shine light on the the candle stick, It's meant to shine light on the one in the Midst. The Lord.

    When done so you see what is revealed in Revelation 1:13-17.

    You see Deity, Judgment, The word, Eyes of flaming fire that reveals and exposes.

    Thanks for allowing me Gigi.

    Good night.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesse no offence but your take on the transfiguration is lacking....In all 3 of these transfigurations his raiment was white as snow....He was presenting to God a glorious Church without spot of wrinkle b/c of his blood....Its the Church that is that city on a hill that is the light of the world...As Matthew 5:14...He was impling that the Church is his raiment that is white as snow....i was in need of raiment and you clothe me...As Isaiah said he wd stain all of his raiment...which is the Church...There is no fuller on earth that can whiten us like his blood....Tho your sins be as scarlet ( the church) they shall be white as Snow...His Raiment was white as Snow....His face, his image was changed simply b/c he is gonna be married to the Church the bride...Thus we are gonna be made 1 with Christ the Bridegroom....We are that city set on a hill that is supposed give the world a light... Eph 5:27 That he might present to himself as Glorious Church without spot or wrinkle....His raiment was white as snow not having any kind of a spot or wrinkle....Which is us sinners that has been washed in his blood....And also Peter says he was with him on the Holy Mt when they heard this voice from heaven etc... 2 Peter 1:18....But ya gotta realize that his raiment was the Church that was made white as snow but his blood at Calvary....I was in need of raiment and your clothe me...ok lemme go
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply on Malachi 4 - 3 years ago
    Jesse no offence but your take on the transfiguration is lacking....In all 3 of these transfigurations his raiment was white as snow....He was presenting to God a glorious Church without spot of wrinkle b/c of his blood....Its the Church that is that city on a hill that is the light of the world...As Matthew 5:14...He was impling that the Church is his raiment that is white as snow....i was in need of raiment and you clothe me...As Isaiah said he wd stain all of his raiment...which is the Church...There is no fuller on earth that can whiten us like his blood....Tho your sins be as scarlet ( the church) they shall be white as Snow...His Raiment was white as Snow....His face, his image was changed simply b/c he is gonna be married to the Church the bride...Thus we are gonna be made 1 with Christ the Bridegroom....We are that city set on a hill that is supposed give the world a light... Eph 5:27 That he might present to himself as Glorious Church without spot or wrinkle....His raiment was white as snow not having any kind of a spot or wrinkle....Which is us sinners that has been washed in his blood....And also Peter says he was with him on the Holy Mt when they heard this voice from heaven etc... 2 Peter 1:18....But ya gotta realize that his raiment was the Church that was made white as snow but his blood at Calvary....I was in need of raiment and your clothe me...ok lemme go
  • Donna Grace - 3 years ago
    (Sister) Thanks for sharing 2 Corinthians 5:17 .

    Read Ephesians 4:32. When we truly are saved, we become a new creation in Christ. The old is passed away. We are forgiven. As Christians we are to be doers of the word. Jesus said in John 14:15, if you love me, keep my commandments.

    1John 2:4

    1John 4:20-21

    The Lord is my Shepherd.

    I am lifting you all up in prayer today. Jesus Christ is coming soon. We are living in the last of the last days, and hell is a real place of torment. Eternal. I don't want to go there and I don't want you to go there.

    Matthew 10:28

    Matthew 13:50

    2Thessalonians 1:9

    Psalms 145:20

    Hebrews 10:26-31

    So let Jesus work in your heart and life. No one can put Him there. You must see your need for Him and repent (stop sinning,stop hating,forgive,stop rejecting Christ) REPENT of YOUR own evil deeds, ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness.

    Matthew 6:14-15

    He paid for our sin with His life's blood when He was crucified on the cross.His gift of forgiveness is free. Please accept it. Repent and be baptized in water and the Holy Spirit.

    HE IS COMING BACK SOON. If YOU are not ready, the Bible says you will be eternally lost. I would not wish Hell on my worst enemy. No, on the contrary. I want to spend eternity loving and worshiping Jesus Christ together with them.

    ( Matthew 5:44)

    May the Lord richly bless you today in Christ Jesus!

    Helpful tip; touch the verse addresses in red and they will open up. You won't have to look them up separately.
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Cindyt:

    Your are SO RIGHT, believe on Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved: your saved from DEATH; but it is a far cry from SIMPLE; Jesus is THE WORD(s) and that means to be brought to TRUTH, you have to believe ALL those WORDS, not just some of those WORDS, he is calling out a priesthood, to serve in the kingdom, and judge in the kingdom, if you don't repent and believe his WORD(S) you will not be a part of that priesthood.

    Matthew 5:19 Whosoever shall break one of THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS (all God's words are COMMANDS(ments)), and teach man to do so, he shall be called LEAST in the kingdom of God (not condemned to hell, as the doctrine of man teaches); But whosoever shall do and teach them (these least commandment), the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    There are hundreds of denominations of Churches, each one thinks they alone have the TRUTH.

    In one or the threads, either Chris, Jesse, or SSpencer SAID, when we are discussing scriptures, each one in that discussion thinks he has TRUTH, all the while Christ is sitting back laughing, and saying neither of you have the truth.

    That is the TRUTH, if we would only AGREE with God, he is TRUTH, and until we are married to him at the death of this body, being totally in his presence, and his presents is TRUTH, we WILL NOT be all TRUTH, but we will be given enough truth to OVERCOME, and win the race.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    STU,

    The Bible does not specifically mention the word abortion. However, if we look at Exodus 21:22-25, it looks to me that God's view is that if you kill an unborn baby, the penalty is death.

    A baby in a mothers womb is a living being. Aborting that baby is considered murder. It baffles me that people who commit murder, in many cases, they receive the death penalty. But what about murdering an unborn child?

    This topic should touch the heart strings of every believer. Again, the closest thing I see that would give God's view on abortion (other than you shall not murder) in Exodus 20:13, would be Exodus 21:22-25.

    Other verses to consider are: Deuteronomy 5:17, Matthew 5:21, Leviticus 24:17, Mark 10:19, Leviticus 24:21.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Six things determined upon Daniel's people and the holy city.

    Part 5

    To seal up vision and prophecy

    Seal up, affix a seal, a seal in biblical times as today, is used to guarantee security or indicate ownership. Vision, God's communication with man, prophecy (w-n-), the same word for prophet, a divine vision, a vision spoken of a divine vision or dream, Isaiah 29:7 God spoke in times past through the prophets, but these last days spoke to us by his Son, Heb. 1:1-2.

    The Mosaic Law and covenant pointed to Jesus. He sealed them up, that is, he fulfilled them. The greatest prediction, which runs like a golden thread through the whole contents of the Old Testament, is that regarding the coming and work of the Messiah, Jesus; and the greatest use of prophecy was to perpetuate faith in his coming and to prepare the world for that event.

    Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18 John 5:36-40 Matthew 5:17 Matthew 11:11-15

    The Bible shows Jesus fulfilled the prophets, and the Mosaic law the first covenant fulfilled, sealed and His ministry was confirming the New.

    See Part 6


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