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Josef....God bless you for Posting all those things,...But none those things cd save mankind....Absolutely none OF THE WORKS OF the Flesh CAN SAVE US but a New CREATURE...By his mercy His blood ....Not by works of Righteousness which we have done but by the Regeneration of the H.G... Titus 3 : 5 KJV...The washing of regeneration, the renewing of the H.G.....An Israel of God....That Great Promise of multiplication n regeneration of Christ Jesus is the only way there can be an Israel of God.

.....For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision NOR uncircumcision availeth any thing ( nothing ) but a New Creature....Which is the Gift of the H.G. that New Creature... Gal 6: 15 Kjv....Not by Works or No Works...But only by the Blood of the Lamb he saved us.

.....Josef....We should still do all those things...but the only thing that plzs GOD is a NEW CREATURE...Which is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE....That we have to birth via his good seed the living word....Jesus commanded them to be bornagain of an incorruptible seed...Even by his Words....Our new heart and a new spirit is the only thing that plzs God..The H.G....She brought forth a man Child that was caught up to God and to his throne....And this Child will RULE all nations ....The Child is that New Creature....New to us but old to God....They will bring forth things out of their treasure ( our hearts ) things New and old...

.....Jesus said unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...The Child is the H.G. our New Creature..ok gbu

Amen to that Josef .

"Teaching them to observe whatsoever I have commanded you."

If you believe Jesus is God then aren't whatever He commanded his Disciples to do be things that we also should do? Baptize, repent, turn the other cheek, love each other, do good, be the salt and light of the world, feed the poor, care for the sick, widows and orphans, visit those in prison, shelter the homeless, clothe the naked, give freely to those that need, expect no repayment, be careful that you don't strive after money and the things of this world, live humbly, share, be generous, pray, be careful how you judge, to name some.

Psalms 24:1, ._.The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell there in"

the Lord meaning.. Yhvh = translated, The proper name of GOD of Israel = Eternal 2. Jehovah 'Jewish name'

Earth = earth, land, nations, wilderness, world,

Exodus 9:29,

1Corinthians 10:26 "For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.'' the Lord's meaning 1. Supreme in authority, 2. Controller 3. supremacy, master,

Chris gave you great scripture but I want to point to the bigger more complete picture.

Ephesians 6:12, world = aion translated = an age, 1Corinthians 2:6, 1Corinthians 1:20,

John 15:19, meaning translated = kosmos= orderly arrangement, 2. The world including it's inhabitants, John 3:15-17, 1Corinthians 7:31,

John 1:10, 1John 2:16, Proverbs 29:2,

1John 5:4, John 16:33, 1Corinthians 15:24-28, John 17, 1John 3:10-16, John 9:5, 1Corinthians 6:2, Genesis 1:28, Luke 22:25-30, Matthew 10:8, Matthew 28:18-20, Luke 9:1-2, Luke 10:9, Mark 16:15-19

2Peter 3:13, Isaiah 65:17, Revelation 21, Ephesians 6:10-18

Hopefully these are helpful in deeper understanding, you can also pray for wisdom, James 1:5,

Some teach that based on interpretation of; Isaiah 42:7, 1Peter 3:18-19, Ecclesiastes 4:14-16, Psalms 142:7, Isaiah 53:7-12, Revelation 1:17-18, Matthew 12:38-45, Luke 11:29-32, Ephesians 4:8-10, Psalms 86:13, Acts 2:27,31, Psalms 16:10, but none of these are clearly stated nor defined so. Jonah 2:2,

Luke 16:22-31,

I guess my question is why?

Jesus has all authority: Luke 12:5, Luke 9:1, Mark 1:27, 1Corinthians 15:24, Matthew 28:18, Job 26:6, Psalms 139, Revelation 1:18,

Revelation 20, 2Peter 2:4,

Let's not divide over these issues, James 3:6,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

Baptism is a big deal to God. Such a big deal, a person was sent in advance of Jesus specifically to baptize people to prepare for Jesus. It was a big deal to Jesus that He was baptized Himself, and invited those around Him to be baptized. It's such a big deal it even says in the Bible to be baptized. It's written in the form of a command. It is a conditional statement. Do this, and this is the result. Whether someone likes it or not salvation is mentioned in the same sentence in Acts 2:38 for example. Also read: Acts 22:16, 1 Peter 3:21, John 3:5, Galatians 3:26-27, Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 2:41.

Just as people were resistant to follow Jesus in His day, we have people who read the above verses and dismiss them as important or "unnecessary." Man tries so hard to perform mental gymnastics to avoid doing something God wants us to do. He comes up with all these creative interpretations of cherry picked verses claiming that when it says to be baptized, it doesn't actually mean it, or is symbolic, or no longer applies, or [fill in the blank].

What it comes down to is do you believe the Bible verses above or not? Do want to follow Jesus or not?

Is there a risk of being baptized? No.

Is there a risk of not being baptized? Yes.

How is this not an easy decision?

Bible clearly says to be baptized, but why is someone who wants to follow Jesus so adamant about not doing it? Physically you're wet for a couple minutes, then you dry off. Similar to what most people normally do daily anyway. So, the hesitancy probably isn't because of that. What else would motivate people to try so hard to disobey Jesus then? Embarrassment? Many do it publicly, but you can also do it privately. What else makes people so desperate to disobey Jesus then? Something inside them is resisting. Maybe searching ones heart and motives and praying and study of the scriptures might help reveal ones real motives behind this.

Bro Giannis,

One of the Main Events in the bible. Jesus is baptized and receives the Holy Spirit and it pleases God! If this isn't a learning teachable event for us - nothing is! Jesus provided us with his examples to follow, hence as Christ followers we should be striving to follow Him.

Matthew 3:16

"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"

Jesus shows us how it is done, and if He does it, and instructs everyone to do it, where do we improve our standing with God - if we ignore His command?

Jesus commands the diciples to baptize believers.

Matthew 28:19

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

If the apostles would have ignored Jesus command to baptize would this have been good for them? If all of the apostles, including Paul believed that baptism was required, why should we believe any different than they?

Peter tells us that when we repent, and submit to baptism we receive the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:38

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

So, Jesus/God tells us in so much scripture, that when we believe, repent, and get baptized - we are forgiven of our sins, and we receive the Holy Spirit!

The above scripture is so easy to understand, even a child can understand the need to follow God's instructions regarding this issue.

GBU

Benson Commentary

Psalm 110:1. The Lord said unto my Lord, Jehovah ladoni, the saying, or decree, that is, I record the saying or decree of Jehohovah to my Lord, that is, to his Son the Messiah, whom I acknowledge as my Lord and God. This decree, made in eternity, was in due time published, and was actually executed when God raised up Christ from the dead, and brought him into his heavenly mansion. David designedly calls the Messiah his Lord, to admonish the whole church, that although he was his Song of Solomon according to the human nature, yet he had a higher nature, and was also his Lord, as being by nature God blessed for ever, and consequently Lord of all things, as he is called Acts 10:36; and by office, as he was God man, the Lord and King of the whole church, and of all the world, for the church's sake. And this was said to prevent that offence which the Holy Ghost foresaw the Jews and others would be ready to take at the meanness of Christ's appearance in the flesh. The Hebrew word adon, is one of God's titles, signifying his power and authority over all things, and therefore is most fitly given to the Messiah, to whom God had delegated all his power in the universe, > Matthew 28:18. Sit thou at my right hand - Thou who hast for so many years been veiled with infirm and mortal flesh, despised, rejected, and trampled upon by men, and persecuted unto death; do thou now take to thyself thy great and just power. Thou hast done thy work upon earth, now take thy rest, and the possession of that sovereign kingdom and glory, which by right belongs to thee; do thou rule with me, with an authority and honour far above all creatures, in earth or heaven. So this phrase is expounded in other places: see Luke 22:69; 1 Corinthians 15:25; Hebrews 1:3; Hebrews 8:1; Hebrews 10:12-13; Ephesians 1:20

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Hello, Steven, thanks for your response to me. I don't think I have ever said that water baptism is a requirement for salvation.

I have said that we are required to obey the commands of Jesus, since He commands us to do so in several instances. And He did command the disciples to baptize new believers and I believe that this means water baptism. I will never say that as a matter of course that the church should not practice water baptism any longer because we are "spirit baptized" when we accept Jesus, as you said. Jesus never taught that, and the apostles never taught that idea in the way you stated it. So, I think we agree that water baptism does not save a person and is not required for salvation to occur. But I think we disagree about whether Jesus was talking about water baptism or Spirit baptism in the Great Commission in Matthew 28:18.

It's o.k. with me to agree to disagree concerning this matter. I am glad that this forum allows believers to speak their views and to wrestle with topics that come up concerning the will of God.

Gigi.

Part 3.

John said I baptize with water he who is coming after me shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire.

Now, Is Jesus still baptizing with the Holy Ghost? Yes. He does that through the preaching of the gospel and you receiving the message through open eyes and a blood tipped ear. This call goes out to jew and Gentiles, Before the crucifixion Christ was gathering the lost sheep of Israel, The king was in their midst and the kingdom was at hand, John the baptist came to pronounce that. Did Jesus ask the Disciples to baptize the lost sheep of Israel or anyone else BEFORE they crucified him, No. His Death had to bring on a new covenant. The circumcision of the heart. No more a commandment, IT'S NOW A CONDITION. Hebrews 8:6-11. He now put his law in man's heart. "Circumcision of the heart"

and only the baptism of the Holyspirit can do that. In Acts 2:38 the jews was asked to repent, this was very new to them.

Again, this was all Israel.

see Acts 2:36.

Now, everyone taught didn't believe, were they baptized? No, You had to believe. see Acts 8:35-37.

"Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; WHAT DOTH HINDER ME TO BE BAPTIZED?

And Philip said, IF THOU BELIEVEST WITH ALL THINE HEART, THOU MAYEST. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Note:

1 Corinthians 12:13.

Ephesians 4:4-5.

We're put into the body by that 1 baptism and that's the baptism John the baptist referred Israel to. The Holy Ghost.

Matthew 28:18-19. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Do you notice no ask of repentance?

This is beyond Jerusalem. This power is of Jesus, His baptism.

God bless.

Texsis,

Did Jesus tell us to be baptized ? Yes he did.

Matthew 28:19

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Jesus and all of His Apostles, including Paul were baptized (in water), and they followed Jesus commands and baptized others in water.

Easy to understand, but leave it to man to confound himself!

God bless

Dear Texsis

Having in mind scripture like the following:

1 Peter 3:21

"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:"

Mark 16:16

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Matthew 28:19

'"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Acts 2:38

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

Acts 2:41

"Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."

Matthew 3:13-15

"Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him."

If Jesus had to be baptized John's baptism to "fulfill all righteousness" and John had to step back to allow that, what about us been baptized the christian baptism to fulfill God's righteousness? Baptism is not symbolic, it is essential for fulfilling God's righteousness, essential for our salvation.

GBU

The lack of Baptism submersion, doesn't appear to be an unpardonable sin.

Let's address why wouldn't someone want to be Baptized? Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:2-7, Romans 6:3-13,

Is it fear that keeps one from baptism? 1John 4:18, trust? Psalms 56:11, that person may possibly be about to ask another gentle close friend in the Body of Christ to be the person submersing with people of close relation in there nearby or helping, while the Church leader prays or recites scripture. I've seen many believers like youth outreach baptize with Pastor helping. Depending on the fellowship. Matthew 28:18-20,

If the reason is medical, or because of very difficult situation. Luke 23:38-46,

Matthew 10:33, 2Timothy 2:12, Matthew 16:24, Matthew 3:13-17,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Casting out demons,

Jesus gave instruction, I'm not aware of scripture in the Psalms specified for that. But David who is accredited as author of many of the Psalms written in the Bible, was able to have an evil spirit leave Saul, by playing music. 1Samuel 16, however this seems different, because note: 1Samuel 16:14, 1Samuel 15, note 1Samuel 15:23,

Please read & study these:

Mark 1:34,39, Mark 3:14-15, Matthew 12:28, Luke 11:20, Mark 16:9, Matthew 8:16, Luke 4:14, Luke 8:2, Matthew 28:18-20,

Jude 1:2-10, note: Jude 1:9, Acts 19:13-17, Matthew 12:39-45, Luke 11:14-26,

Mark 6:7-13, Luke 9:49-50,

Matthew 10:8, Mark 16:17,

Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:17-29,

James 1:2-7, Luke 11:1-13,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Matthew 28:19-29

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

In my opinion dear Robin, nobody can get rid of bad habits/passions/sins unless God frees him. i.e. just think of a guy who is a drug addict who believes in Jesus sometime in his life. How is he going to get freed from his passion? On his own? Is that possible? Of course not. Nomatter how hard he tries he will never succeed. He needs God's strentgh/grace to do that. The same happens with all habits/passions/sins.

Apostle Paul in Romans 8:13 makes a very significant statement.

"For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live"

What does he mean with "deeds of body"? The answer is in Galatians 5:19-21

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, AND SUCH LIKE: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God"

The above works of flesh/deeds of body are what we call bad habits/passions/sins. Is smoking or any other addiction mentioned? They are all included in "THE SUCH LIKE"

So what do you need to get freed? The answer is the Holly Spirit. It is sometimes impossible for men to "mortify the deeds of the body". This what God's Spirit does.

So go to the Lord and ask Him to free you, ask for His strength, His grace, His Spirit to work in/on you. But when you go to God you have to make sure that you really want to get freed, you have to be honest with the Lord, and sincere about it. Will God answer back? He will definitely do that. I have seen so many examples in my life, people that get freed from smoking, drugs, alcohol, adultery, fornification, gambling...anything that has enslaved them. So go to God.

And a verse especially for you:

John 8:36 "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed."

GBU

oh ok - you used the word "promiscuous". nothing to do with smoking. addiction is a spirit which needs to be rebuked, fasting and prayer helps.

Honey, I am looking up where I gathered up these little tidbits so I could source them first. But in a nutshell, I was talking more about the lack of strength to stop an old habit like cigarette smoking, and asking was it like spitting in my Lord's face every time I light a cigarette when I know it's wrong. From what I understand promiscuous doesn't have to mean see.

Jesus said Go and sin no more. Because it is possible to stop sinning if you want to. If you continue volunteering to sin (fornicate) then you are not in obedience with Jesus. Romans 6:23

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Pray to Jesus to break the bondage of sexual sin, back 10 generations in Jesus name and confess the sins of your fathers. Generational sin can put us in bondage.

Dear "Robin Burcham" Revelation 20:15 example:

I read something today that i noticed. Paul writes in 1Timothy 5:1-16 that we must not choose widow until they are 60 years old. To serve in the church, appealingly abusive to all genders, men and women. And then here many teachers simply fail to see the truth. That in the Lord are men also the women. (now it will be a memory room)!

Because they would fail the church in some way. Even then, do not stick to the church and the word. It seems that Dear Paul was very concerned about the widows. And that he simply may not dare to mention the boys/men.

Now we know that before God we are equal. That is why all younger people are meant here as well. I believe that the Lord will lead us fully to the truth. John 16:13 So when you are young / have habits / or in other ways show your childhood / youth. Then this will be refined with the realization and growth in God. For the day will come when we will stand before the Judge, and then it is good that all our cases are settled with the Lord.

All habits / bad habits will peel off us. For with God we are One.

So make your best friend, and ask for forgiveness if you know it's wrong. And if you know it's wrong, that mistake will chase you until it's no longer a mistake. Hope you understand.

And the day He reveals Himself then we probably have other things to think about :) God Is a great God no one is above or beside our God. He has conquered death, so it no longer has any power! In His Blood we have received healing, hallelujah Amen in Jesus Christ's holy name, stand strong in the Bible and Jesus, friend and all evil will flee from you. Love u in Christ. He Is the one who is great here on earth and is no small god you must believe. He will have all the glory forever, so great is He.

Can you show me in the Bible (New Testament) where it says a person's name in the Book of Life will not be erased since Jesus Christ died for our sins:? What about promiscuous ( sin one knows is sin, but cannot kick the habit?

Dear Godwin: If you have been born again ( Romans 10:9-13), God is there with you whether you feel His presence or not. Matthew 28:20 "...lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Our walk in Christ is by faith, not by sight or by feelings or sight. 2 Corinthians 5:7

"(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)"

God Bless you!

Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

Why are there so many churches that teach baptism under Matthew 28:19 and some under Acts 2:38? What is the correct way to get to heaven? So much confusion in this world. What does the Bible truly teach is the correct way?

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Isaiah 7:14

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Do Not take away or add to the word of god. If the bible says ( Baptize ) it means Baptize. BIBLE VERSES ABOUT WATER BAPTISM Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be ( baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 1 Peter 3:21 Mark 16:16 Acts 22:16 and this scripture explains this very clearly! John 3:5 "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,( Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. ) Romans 6:4 - Therefore we are ( buried with him by baptism into death:) that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Galatians 3:27 Acts 10:48 Matthew 28:19 Acts 10:48 Matthew 3:16 Acts 8:36-39 ( And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain ( water:) and the eunuch said, See, here is ( water;) what doth hinder me to be baptized? Gods word says Baptize it means baptize ( there is no scripture that NULLIFYS WATER BAPTISM ) Further more ( Revelation 22:19

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. God has a plan for salvation and we have no right to change it by our interpretation of the word 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: These are not my word, they are scripture By Which we as CHRISTIANS must live by. I submit this in the love of Jesus and the hope of seeing his will, that NO MAN SHOULD PARRISH !

Hello, this is a frequently asked question and you can do an advanced search and find lots of discussions about it with verses if you desire.

Here are some verses to get you started. God bless.

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

Matthew 1:23-25

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

I believe be leaving out 1Peter 2:23, 1Peter 2:19, & what, why & how Jesus suffered, at the hands of unrighteous, unjust men, Jesus openly corrected, rebuked, even insulted, flipped tables, Luke 19, is somewhat out of full context.

I responded to your similar post, just recently.

Proverbs 29:2,

I believe Jesus behaved the way He did, because He understood His authority. Matthew 7:29, Matthew 21:24,27, Mark 1:27, Matthew 28:18, We likewise should recognize, acknowledge & understand our authority.

1st as children of GOD, Gen. 1:28, John 16:23, John 14:14, James 1:5, Hebrews 4:12-16,

2nd as Citizens, if US Citizen we are The People, the Governing authority, as set forth in each State Constitution & US Constitution.

Hebrews 13:6,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hello Shirley. I believe as residents of this Earth & hearers of this Good News of salvation, we are obliged to make a response to Jesus while there is still breath in our bodies. Once we depart this life, there remains no further opportunity. Hebrews 9:27 states, "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". No second chances or opportunities - only God's Judgement awaits all those who have refused Him & His Offer of Love.

And this is also why Jesus, after he arose from the grave, gave commmandment to His disciples in Matthew 28:18-20, to go & share this Good News, teaching them, baptizing them after they believe, & to obey His Commandments. And the disciples, after they were filled with the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, did just that, sharing the Gospel in the regions near & beyond, & bringing those who would be saved into the fold of Christ. If this sense of grave responsibility & urgency wasn't there, it could well mean that there was still hope for people after the grave. But this is not the case. People need to hear this message now - tomorrow might be too late for them. Many refuse to hear, but we pray that God will direct our steps & our voices to those appointed to receive eternal life. At least to our loved ones, friends & associates, this Good News must be shared that they not be consigned to the place of eternal punishment.

Thank you, Adam,

We truly need to defend correct doctrine concerning Who and What God is as revealed in Scriptures. He is a Godhead, as you say. The Father, the Son, and Spirit are distinct Persons, yet are unified in one Being. We may not be able to fully comprehend this mystery, but we can clearly see in Scripture that this is true. You have listed multiple Scripture references as has been done repeatedly in past conversations. We must continue to do so, even if those who adhere to the "Oneness" doctrine and reject the truth of the Triune nature of the Godhead are not able to accept this truth.

The baptism of Jesus and His Transfiguration are two examples of the interactions between the Persons of the Godhead that was experienced by those with Jesus. Jesus' Last Supper Discourse in John's Gospel is another example with Jesus speaking of the Father as a separate Person than Himself yet there is a shared Oneness between them. He also promises to send the Holy Spirit, (again, a separate Person) who will come from both Himself and the Father (two separate Persons send the third Person).

Then in Matthew 28:18 Jesus says to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. That is very plain speaking to me.

I pray that God will give understanding and faith to those who deny the triunity of the Godhead and that we will come to have one mind on this. Again, thank you for defending this truth.

Brother adam: do not be offended.

i am not denying the divinity of christ.

the problem is you, and others, believe one scripture but then don't believe another scripture.

you believe: john 10:30 the father and i are one. divinity

you don't believe: john 17:21 that you and christ become one. divinity

you quote these scriptures, but you don't believe them

you don't believe: philippians 2:6 let this mind be in you, christ in the form of god thought it not robbery to be equal to god. divinity

you don't believe:: genesis 1:26 you were made in the image of god. divinity

you don't believe: 2 corinthians 5:19 to wit, that god was in christ (a body, a man)(and yes this make christ divine, reconciling the world to himself .......all will be divinity

you don't believe: matthew 28:19 ...baptising them in the father, son, and holy ghost.... this baptism make you: one with them, now there is no longer three, a trinity.

you don't believe: 1 corinthians 15:28 .....and god will be all in all. everyone divinity; not three.

your right we as brothers are to come together and rightly divide the word of god: truth vs falsehoods.

to repent has more to do with teachings than sins of the flesh.

as we come to truth, we repent, of our beliefs hundreds of times, of the falsehoods that have invaded the true gospel.

it's war: flesh vs divinity.

god bless you!