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  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Matthew 6:29, Matthew 12:42,

    I have understood in wisdom & splendor Solomon was famous, 1 Kings 4:1,21,22,23,24,25,26,27, 1 Kings 4:29-34

    However 1 Kings 11:4,
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Michael,

    Just one verse in the Bible is all it takes to refute the OSAS theory:

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    But there's so many more verses too. Paul is the one who said we can have assurance of salvation, but what people often do is the remove the contingent part- this requires us to "follow Jesus!" A Christian is an active Jesus follower. It's a pursuit that involves effort and transforming oneself. Not being slave to sin, but to righteousness. People want their cake and to eat it too, by not following Jesus, enjoying unlimited sin, but also demanding salvation like a spoiled, self-entitled brat. Some Christians even deny this reality. But Jesus already addressed that:

    Matthew 7:21-23

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

    Believe it or not, there are even people who don't want to do good. They claim that it's 'bad' to do good works. One should ask, did Jesus say that? If not, does that idea come from God or satan?

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    I think people would slander Jesus today for doing good works, just like they did back then.

    Here are more verses (too many to even paste here):

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Romans 11

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not 'party' or sit on sofa.

    Pray to God to know the truth.
  • D W L on 1 Corinthians 16 - 3 years ago
    Kathleen Gordon - Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight

    Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: (The Sabbath is a rest day, if it is on any day)

    Galations 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. v 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

    Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. (Read verse 1-15)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} soul & spirit depart - In Reply - 3 years ago
    1 Thessalonians 5:23

    Precious brother Chris says: "I cannot find a suitable answer for," and asks Great Questions:

    Where does the spirit of man go? Ecclesiastes 12:7 cp James 2:26

    me: Does the soul also depart? Genesis 35:18

    Is there a holding place for such? And where could this place be?

    1) Before The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the paradise 'hold' was in "the heart {lower parts} of the earth" Matthew 12:40 Ephesians 4:9, Abraham's bosom, across a chasm from the 'torment' hold Luke 16:19-31 cp Luke 23:43

    2) After The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, paradise is now with The Throne Of God {Third Heaven?}, and Body Of CHRIST 'members' Immediately, upon physical death {'sleep' is the metaphor for the 'dead body'} "Depart to be WITH our Blessed God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!" 2 Corinthians 5:6,8 Philippians 1:21,23 'Confirmed' By:

    3) ...Those 'asleep In JESUS'..." {metaphor for 'resting' in JESUS}, "...Will God {JESUS} Bring With HIM!" 1 Thessalonians 4:14 At our Great GRACE Departure! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Amen?

    4) Is the "sleep/rest" UNconscious? Scripture?: Luke 16:19-31 cp Revelation 6:9-11

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    Ed Bedore says: "A proper understanding of what the Bible teaches about Hell, Sheol, Hades, and the Grave dispels confusion over what happens to the soul at the time of physical death and guards against being led astray by those teaching the false doctrines of soul-sleep, eradication of the soul, the universal reconciliation of mankind, and the annihilation of the lost.":

    More can be learned from his Excellent Article about this Bible Doctrine:

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave by W. Edward Bedore

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    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?): Link
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 9 - 3 years ago
    Thank you David. May I refer you to a few OT & NT Scriptures: Exodus 33:7; Proverbs 1:20; Ezekiel 41:17. And Matthew 12:46,47; Matthew 26:69; Hebrews 13:13. These show the intended meaning of 'without' as seen & understood in Genesis 9:22.

    But if you still believe that Genesis 9:22 is incomplete, I would be very interested, like Adam, to know where you learned this & the relevant references so we can research this as you have done. In anticipation I remain.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    At 1st glance it appears to be truth. I went through a Bible study with a Pastor friend I really respected, who taught this idea also & it seemed accurate but didn't set right in my Spirit. Years later I was reading Genesis & noticed something important that contradicts the "angels" married women: Genesis 4:26, (Son's of God ) * Romans 8:14, so it defines who are the son's of God, Jesus also defines the son's & daughters of God: Matthew 12:50, additional scriptures to back it up 2 Corinthians 6:17,18

    1 Corinthians 6:3, Galations 4:6,7

    & if the Son's of GOD are those who do GOD's will, then that rejects fallen angel theory. & if we are called sons & daughters, it's mankind.

    2 Peter 2:11,12, James 2:19,

    Further scriptures: Jude 1:6,7,8,9,10, Hebrews 1:13,14

    &

    Tobit so far is the most indepth book speaking on these matters & interaction between Angels, & evil Spirits. Here are notable scriptures Tobit 6, Tobit 7, Tobit 8. If that kind of relation could have happened as you speak of wouldn't it have happened here?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Corinthians 4 - 3 years ago
    Let's start with the love of GOD

    1 Corinthian 13, please read the whole chapter

    John 3:16

    Psalm 103:8

    Psalm 145:8

    Matthew 12:15

    Those are just a few scriptures about GOD's love. If you study & read the Holy Bible you will find GOD's love all through it.

    Here are a few scriptures about sin

    John 8:34 & Jesus says about himself John 8:36

    Hopefully those are helpful.
  • Mishael - In Reply - 3 years ago
    People's Bible Notes for Matthew 12:31-32

    The blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven. Compare Mark 3:28, Luke 12:10. Much discussion has arisen concerning the nature of sin AGAINST the Holy Spirit, and nothing is plainer. Mark 3:30 explains it. IT IS YOU SAYING Christ's works are through demon power. These works were wrought by the power of the Holy Spirit. See Luke 12:10

    Underline Isaiah 18:1 in your Bible

    Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

    You need the spiritual covering of a Church. Don't feel like you have a bulls eye on your back. It is the Pastor/or Pastors wife, job to pray with you on issues like this.

    Swearing, taking Gods name in vain (cussing) are not death sentences. Keep coming back here so we can be of help and fellowship. I love you in Jesus Name.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Blasphemy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Most people blaspheme the Holy Spirit all day every day.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT, since God is Holy, the Spirit is Holy; thus Holy Spirit) which WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    The WORD says the Holy Spirit CAUSES ALL THINGS to be done OF THE WILL of the Holy Spirit, man says NO it's done by mans FREE WILL. Not the miracles of the Holy Spirit.



    Matthew 12:32 Says this sin will not be forgiven in THIS AGE (of the calling out of the chosen) or the AGE TO COME (age of judgement); but after judgement they will learn righteousness ( Isaiah 26:9).
  • What is Blasphemy? - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The concept of "blasphemy against the Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus has just performed a miracle. A demon-possessed man was brought to Jesus, and the Lord cast the demon out, healing the man of blindness and muteness. The eyewitnesses to this exorcism began to wonder if Jesus was indeed the Messiah they had been waiting for. A group of Pharisees, hearing the talk of the Messiah, quickly quashed any budding faith in the crowd: "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons," they said ( Matthew 12:24).

    Jesus rebuts the Pharisees with some logical arguments for why He is not casting out demons in the power of Satan ( Matthew 12:25-29). Then He speaks of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: "I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (verses 31-32).

    The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus said, Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter ( Mark 3:28), BUT then He gives one exception: "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin" (verse 29).

    My comment: satan has never done anything good in his existence.

    Frequently people may go up front of the church to be prayed for: for healing, favor finding work, a sick relative at the hospital, etc.

    And then the prayer is answered according to THEIR FAITH IN GOD.

    Some people will say, "ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE, the medication kicked in finally, or some other remark.

    That's actually calling something that the Holy Spirit did, NOT a miracle.

    The Pharisees accused Jesus of this.
  • Brother dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Joe,

    Jesus tells us that we can be forgiven of all sin, except one sin:

    Matthew 12:31

    "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

    Walk in Christ, and God Bless.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Sister Donna, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You will never understand the Word of God without putting ALL the Words of God together. And even then the Holy Spirit has to explain it to you.

    Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little:

    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue (the Holy Spirit) will SPEAK TO HIS PEOPLE.

    It takes LOTS OF TIME and STUDY to even begin to understand. Most people just believe what other people tell them.

    Revelation is a book that has been SIGNIFIED ( Revelation 1:1) meaning the word (such as heaven) represents something other than its meaning as given in a dictionary.

    Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven ....Now we know heaven represents something other than its definition in a dictionary. It takes other verses to Know what it represents.

    Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven ...

    Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has COME unto YOU.

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon WAS CAST OUT (of heaven)(out of you)....You are the NEW HEAVEN ( Revelation 21:1) where GOD dwells. Colossians 1:27

    Revelation 12:10 Now is come SALVATION ....

    Luke 10:18 And he said unto him, I saw SATAN as lightning FALL FROM HEAVEN (from within YOU).

    Revelation 12:10 Now is come SALVATION, and POWER, and THE KINGDOM OF OUR LORD ....

    To understand the third killed in Revelation, you have to understand Ezekiel 5:1-5 and Zachariah 13:8-9 and Malachi 3:2-3
  • Adam - In Reply on Hebrews 1 - 3 years ago
    Have you considered: Daniel 12:2, Job 14:12, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 ?

    While a comforting thought, that repeated phrase doesn't appear that way in the Bible. Paul didn't say that 100% of the time, when 100% of all people die, that instantly you are absent from the body and 100% of the time immediately with the Lord. Paul said he would 'rather' be present with the Lord. That doesn't mean everyone goes to be with the Lord and that doesn't mean that everyone is absent from their body upon death and won't wait for Jesus to return, and won't face any judgment. Matthew 12:36, 2 Corinthians 5:10, Revelation 20:11-15 - People are all judged on the same day. God bless...
  • DOMINION and AUTHORITY in Jesus Name - 3 years ago
    The concept of "blasphemy against the Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus has just performed a miracle. A demon-possessed man was brought to Jesus, and the Lord cast the demon out, healing the man of blindness and muteness. The eyewitnesses to this exorcism began to wonder if Jesus was indeed the Messiah they had been waiting for. A group of Pharisees, hearing the talk of the Messiah, quickly quashed any budding faith in the crowd: "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons," they said ( Matthew 12:24).

    Jesus rebuts the Pharisees with some logical arguments for why He is not casting out demons in the power of Satan ( Matthew 12:25-29). Then He speaks of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: "I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (verses 31-32).

    The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. Jesus said, Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter ( Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin (verse 29)".

    COMMENT: we need to be wary when accusing others of being false prophets, pastors of fleecing sheep, etc. There's a process of 2-3 witnesses, church leadership, that must be observed. LET US not be stained with hastiness. Keep it legal.

    Jesus still heals people. He has healed me.

    Mishael
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Note that Paul didn't say that 100% of the time, when 100% of all people die, that instantly you are absent from the body and 100% of the time immediately with the Lord. Paul just said he would 'rather' be present with the Lord. I think some are reading things into that that aren't there and it seems contrary to other scripture about us all facing judgment. No one gets to skip judgment. Matthew 12:36, 2 Corinthians 5:10, Revelation 20:11-15 - People are all judged on the same day. Lots of people seen in the same place.

    I doubt mass murderers like Hitler went to the Lord for example. I believe he is waiting to face judgment like everyone else.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says the dead will rise and those living will meet the Lord in the air. Would it make sense for someone to go heaven, then back to earth to rise up, then back again to heaven?

    Also, when people die they 'sleep' as it says in. So, they are still with their bodies. If cremated, I still believe souls are just sleeping somewhere awaiting Jesus's return, then the day of judgment that says everyone must face. It doesn't say anyone gets to skip judgment day. God bless.

    Daniel 12:2, Job 14:12, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
  • The Remnant of Yah on Ecclesiasticus 12:6 - 3 years ago
    Answering some questions (just a passerby looking for something) and thought I'd offer some unsolicited thoughts.

    Q: "I never understand Why people want to know what Not Canonized scripture means?

    WHY is not the King James Bible good enough for you?"

    A:The Apocrypha was in the King James Bible up until the 19th century and in speaking of Ecclesiasticus, it was regarded as practical wisdom in the least and holy writ at most depending on which church "father" you regard. James, as in the brother of our Messiah, for instance, appears to reference the book several times in his epistle.

    Next question...

    Who is Esau? Two passages and one non-Biblical source to get your journey started...

    1) Ezekiel 35

    2) Obadiah

    3) The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Volume 5, page 41...

    And you will have your answer...there is a reason why Yahushua (Jesus) said these things:

    Matthew 12:34

    34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

    And John the Baptist said it as well - arriving to TWO WITNESSES.

    And this:

    John 7:19

    19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

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    And ultimately, Jesus uses the same exact language to accuse the Pharisees as He does to mystery Babylon (which is the rulers of our generation - exciting times!):

    Matthew 23:35

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    Revelation 16:6

    6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    Revelation 18:24

    24 And in her was found the BLOOD OF PROPHETS, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth...

    And oh so much more if one had a mind to just look!

    You're welcome!
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Hui Ning Wu,

    I would like to offer another perspective to your comment: "And once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation no matter what you do!"

    I ask, is this true? If true, I would love to commit sins tonight just for fun, because no consequence. Would love to do drugs, have an affair, go to certain clubs to party, maybe even get in a fight, because if we're saved no matter what it wouldn't matter and God would still reward me?

    So, is this true that it's from God and not from satan? Before I do that I would first need to find it in clearly scripture and no other scripture would contradict it. So, if I look through the Bible for evidence, I find the following:

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    This suggests grace won't be given until Jesus comes- maybe even after we're judged. But people are telling me I'm saved and have grace now, so which is true? Does anywhere else in the Bible say that?

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Ok, I guess it does. So, we're not 'saved' yet, huh?

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    So, believing alone isn't enough? So, maybe faith and actions matter?

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    But many people are telling me the race is already won and that I can party. So, who is right: God's Word or man's word?

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 - this suggests 'trying' is good.

    Evidence showing I should NOT commit sin. God bless...
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Brother Jesse.

    I agree with you, Man can not clean himself with "HIS" righteousness. Our righteous works cannot commend us to God, And it can't restore us back to God when we stumble. The topic is basically talking about habitual sin. Here's a picture of a person so called removing sin from his life apart from being sealed with the spirit.

    Matthew 12:43-45. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

    Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, "HE FINDETH IT EMPTY, SWEPT, AND GARNISHED." ( NO SPIRIT.)

    Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

    It amazes me ho we look at habitual sin in a professed so called Christian, and some call say he lost his salvation. But they overlook the dislike and hate between what suppose to be brothern!

    There's 3 topics that generate this division and thats

    1) The trinity.

    2) The rapture.

    3) Eternal security for the believer.

    and if I might add one more.

    Replacement theology. "The Church is the new Israel.

    This lack of love for the brothern should be more alarming than any of these topics.

    God bless you for standing true with meekness.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 20 - 3 years ago
    John 1:14-15: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."

    This describes Jesus being the Word.

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    This says the Word (Jesus) was God.

    Genesis 1:26 "Let US make" (plural).

    John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us".

    God the father is referred to as God. I think most understand this. God also can refer to the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I think most Bible readers understand this too. Jesus became a man and prayed to God, His Father. While being man he was still God. This does not mean He was his Father.

    So, the human argument ignores scripture and claims Jesus wasn't ever God, because they can't humanly imagine Jesus talking to himself. This is a strawman argument, because no one believes Jesus was praying to himself.

    The human argument against Jesus being part of the God head is akin to the skit of "Who's on first." Imagine an orange consisting of skin, pulp, and seeds like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as described in 1 JOHN 5:7. Someone claims "the skin isn't part of the orange, because it's different than the seeds. Because it's impossible for the seeds to be the same as the skin, so it must not be an orange! Only one of the 3 can be an orange, so the other parts must not be part of the orange."

    I also think there's an underlying spiritual battle occurring here. One must ask why someone is so motivated to undermine and discredit Jesus's divinity? Who would be behind such a goal? We know the answer. Tread carefully, stay in the Bible, and pray deeply about this before attacking Jesus on a website of Jesus followers.

    Matthew 18:6, Matthew 12:36-37
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Matthew 12:36 - People will be judged at some point on the same day. Is it likely that they are judged AFTER they go to heaven or hell or BEFORE?

    2 Corinthians 5:10 - People are judged first THEN they receive what is due.

    Revelation 20:11-15 - People are all judged on the same day. Lots of people seen in the same place.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says the dead will rise and those living will meet the Lord in the air.

    Would it make sense for someone to go heaven before being judged where they're going, then back to earth enter a rotted corpse then rise up to meet Jesus, then be judged then go back again to heaven where they already were?

    What about these verses that indicate people will sleep in-between while awaiting Jesus's return: Job 14:12, 1 Thessalonians 4:14.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear Robert,

    There is a link on this site with 3 steps to become a Christian and the steps are the same for someone who has fallen away from the faith.
    Link

    We must genuinely repent of our sin. Jesus already genuinely died for your sin. No sin is too great for Jesus to cover, except blasphemy of the holy spirit Matthew 12:31 which is an form of speaking evil against that which is good and denial of Jesus Christ. What you are describing is not that. God's grace otherwise has no limit and no expiration date, except for your life on earth. Of course someone who deliberately seeks to take advantage of grace would have a problem on the being genuinely repentant part.

    It's normal to assume we're not good enough and that our sin is too great. Most commonly feel that way regardless of the type of sin. I think that is the right mindset to feel absolutely dependent upon the grace of God and to accept the generous gift offered to you.

    Keep in mind that the top evangelist for Christ used to murder Christians before being converted. He then wrote more books of the Bible than anyone else. Moses killed someone. David had someone killed over his own lust and affair with someone else's wife. These all became strong men of God. The story of the prodigal son committed all kinds of sin, but returned and was welcomed. There are many people who were absolutely filthy in committing evil but still had the opportunity to turn it around and be forgiven. If they can do it so can you. Now that you know yes, you will be forgiven, it sounds like you have a decision to make.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    Hey Scott,

    Passover is on the 14th of Nisan; it is a preparation day for the feast of unleavened bread, which is the 15th through the 21st. The first day of this feast is a holy convocation (Sabbath) the only work you can do is to eat. Jesus was crucified on Passover day and died around 3 PM. They had to get Him in the tomb before sundown which would be the first day of the feast a Sabbath day.

    Many choose Wednesday for that day but if Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and put in the tomb before sundown, the first day of the feast would be on Thursday a Sabbath day. That would leave Friday a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath on Saturday. The Mary's and all the disciples could have gone to the tomb on Friday with the spices and anoint Jesus' body because there were no restrictions on Friday.

    If the day Jesus was crucified was Thursday, Friday would be the first day of the feast, a Sabbath as S Spencer said a high day, and Saturday was the weekly Sabbath. Two Sabbaths in a row puts Sunday which starts sundown Saturday the first chance they could go to the tomb.

    The crucifixion on Thursday gives three days and three nights. Thursday/ Day, Friday/Night and Day, Saturday/Night and Day, Sunday/Night, Jesus resurrected before sunrise on Feast of Firstfruits which He was the First Fruits of those who slept.

    What is kind of confusing the Passover lambs are killed on the 14th Passover day and are eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread?

    ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Exodus 12:29-33) ( Leviticus 23:5) ( Numbers 33:1-3) ( Deuteronomy 16:1-8)

    Oh, by the way, the word even, is anytime afternoon when the sun starts going down until sundown which starts a new day.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    Hi Scott.

    We tend to try and fit 3 days and 3 nights in between Friday to Sunday When Jesus rose from the grave. The reason for this is we know by scripture they wanted to get them off the cross because it was the preparation. and the sabbath was following. But it wasn't the day of sabbaths, it was the ( High sabbath ) that they was concerned about. It came earlier in the week. placing it sometime around Wednesday before 6pm. Ending 5:59 pm Thursday. "Their days are 6:01 to 5:59 As our days are 12:01 to 11:59."

    "The High sabbath is one of the annual sabbaths, not the sabbath of days.Which is Saturday and can fall on any day".

    They had 2 Sabbaths that week first the high sabbath, "annual" and the days of sabbath, "Saturday"

    Note:

    John 19:31. The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (FOR THAT SABBATH DAY WAS AN HIGH DAY,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

    So that would account for the 3 days and 3 nights and Jesus rising on Sunday morning, which starts 6:01 pm. "On our clock this would be Saturday" On their clock it's Sunday.

    Note:

    John 20:1. THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK COMETH MARY MAGDALENE EARLY, WHEN IT WAS YET DARK, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

    Not sure how accurate but we are in the vicinity.

    I hope this helps God bless.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    Scott Dumm You are correct that's not possible, by judean calendar at that time, He was crucified and and entombed between 3pm. and sunset wednesday so that the jews could eat there passover, He raised from the tomb sometime saturday 72 hours later. I'm sure you will be given a few different perspectives on this. God Bless
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    Scott It is Not possible since he had to be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights , by judean calendar at that time he was crucified wednesday before passover was celebrated sometime before sunset and rose saturday sometime before sunset again Judean time.
  • Scott Dumm on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    question;

    If he died on Friday and arose Sunday morning how is that possible
  • S. Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jerome.

    Part 2

    Matthew 12:46-50. While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

    Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

    But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

    And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

    For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    Sister Melinda, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, in this world (age) neither in the world to come (age).

    The Word of God was written by the HOLY SPIRIT ( 1 Peter 1:21), the HOLY SPIRIT is in you ( Colossians 1:27) ( Ephesians 4:6)

    To blashpheme the Holy Spirit means to NOT BELIEVE (reject) what he is saying to you through his written word and the LIVING WORD that is IN YOU.

    By not believing, or rejecting his WORD; you would not be saved in this age or in the coming age(s); but will be judged in the coming age(s).

    After the next age, possibly ages, you will AGAIN be able to be saved.

    Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES (ages) he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; EVEN IN HIM.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things (in this and the coming ages) shall be subdued (they will confess him as LORD) unto him (Christ), then shall the Son ALSO HIMSELF be subject unto him (the Father) that put all things under him (Christ), that GOD (the Father) may be ALL IN ALL.

    No one is going to be left out of the Kingdom of God; but most want come into the kingdom in the age we are now in.
  • Melinda Pinner - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    12:30-32 What is specifically unforgiveable in this world and the world to come? Also, what about people who didn't know they or rather were not aware of the gravity of their sins? Even while on the cross Jesus pleaded with God to forgive them for they not know what they do..MAYBE he was speaking about the ignorance that shouldn't be ignored. Then again it IS God and he knows the hearts of man as does Jesus. So...
  • Glenn - In Reply on Matthew 12:32 - 3 years ago
    If you are in a flesh body ,.. you have been " born again " you've passed the first test ! Remember, there are several thousand, that refused to be born of woman , but instead, left there habitation, to disrupt the plan of God , Jude , first 6 vs's


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