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God loved us enough to give us freewill- this is the ability to make choices big and small. We are not puppets. Here's a bunch of verses about it:
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Some will use their freewill to tell others that they don't have freewill, which is ironic. God is in control of whatever he wants to control. Us having freewill doesn't mean God is somehow not in control. I would challenge anyone who doubts God by asking do you not believe God is all powerful enough or loving enough to allow you to make your own choices?
Those thinking it's a one or the other scenario are making a false assumption. It's like a parent asking her child to clean his room. The child has a choice to do it or not. If he disobeys he faces a consequence. But maybe he cleans his room and then begrudgingly says 'I had no choice, mom made me do it.' Or maybe the child doesn't clean his room, and knows he did wrong, but claims that if God wanted him to do it, it would have happened. Therefore, it must have been "God's will" for him not to.
The child might learn to blame others and not take responsibility. This is a current popular false belief in our society among those who have so much compassion on evildoers that they claim it's not their fault, they were born to do this or that, or that another person or institution is to blame. Even victims may be blamed.
Some adults use this as an excuse to commit sin, because it "wasn't them who" chose to sin, but "God made them do it." So, they then blame God on everything they feel inconvenienced by. Very creative, but everyone knows whose really behind these distortions and it's not God. I believe this could become blasphemy of the holy spirit to make false claims against God. When Jesus was doing his ministry Pharisees tried to claim that Jesus was evil. Matthew 12:22-32
Watch out for false teachings. The way to know is to just read the Bible and pray for wisdom.
God bless...
Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Hebrews 6:4-6
James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."
James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
Romans 11
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Matthew 12:31-32
Romans 14:12
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'
2 Peter 3:17
Luke 8:5-18
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Peter 2:20-22
Revelation 22v 18 is the answer to all people .
Precious friends, How can a "member" of The Body Of Christ, whose sins have ALL "Been FORGIVEN," then commit an Unpardonable sin which can NEVER "be forgiven"?
According To God's Sound Doctrine of His Free Gift Of ETERNAL Life, we do Not have 'temporary life conditioned' on "committing the Unpardonable sin."
If man's 'idea of temporary life' is true, then that would NEGATE A Vast Multitude Of God's Scriptures, In His Sound Doctrine of God's ETERNAL Salvation: Link
Conclusion:
The "blasphemy of The Holy Ghost" is committed by Unbelievers who reject The Gospel of The GRACE Of God, and The ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Of CHRIST, for Forgiveness.
It is then IMPOSSIBLE for one With God's ETERNAL Life "Bestowed Upon them Forever" By God Himself, to commit "the Unpardonable sin, which can NEVER be Forgiven! Makes no sense, Correct?
However, a saint "in sin" Can:
1) GRIEVE Ephesians 4:30, And
2) Even QUENCH The Spirit Of God 1 Thessalonians 5:19, with results of
3) "losing reward when they arrive in Heaven, and stand at The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST!" 1 Corinthians 3:6-11 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 Amen?
Therefore:
"For The GRACE Of God that bringeth Salvation Hath Appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that Blessed Hope, and The Glorious Appearing of The Great God and our Saviour JESUS CHRIST; Who Gave Himself for us, that He might Redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works." Titus 2:11-14
Amen?
Please accept my apologies for the previous errors...
Then I realize that I must've done something RIGHT. :D I switch over to Praise & Worship.
I learned this through tears, heartache, frustrations, self-condemnation for not being better organized, etc. What that is, is full frontal spiritual warfare. The Fruit is there.
All we have to do, is STOP and Pray right then. Bind and send out the demons, and pray for God to send the angels in to escort "them" out. "They" are like little chaos demons. If that works, they bring in "doubts"; self attacks.
We need to DISCERN the Spirits. 1 Cor. 12. If we need that Gift, we can ask The Holy Spirit for it. He knows what we need. That's why I pray first.
I don't receive it as a personal failure. Anyone doing all the right things are going to be tempted.
In Genesis, God gave us DOMINION over Creeping Things. Demons are CREEPS. Prayer for them to be sent into Outer Darkness to Wander; WORKS.
Let's just see it for what it is. Job 1, was doing all the right things. Satan spied on him; was jealous of Gods protection of Job. He decided first to attack Jobs family, homes, wealth, health; and sent in "well-meaning friends" to accuse Job of sinning. Job is in want, need, misery, loss; but he holds tight to his faith in God. He refuses to let go and REACT.
1. If you get tested a lot. It means you are tight and right, with God. Satan hates our guts for having what he has not, anymore.
2. If we know someone being tested; let's not Pile On, like Jobs "friends". They got in trouble for it. Weep with those who are weeping. Prayers and words of blessing are more valuable than anything else. Self Pity and False Pity help nobody.
There's alot of good Truth in the Book of Job. In the End, God reveals His blessing to Jobs faith and holding onto Gods unchanging Love.
Realize you are doing something RIGHT.
Mishael
1 Corinthians 11:3
John 14:28
1 Corinthians 12:4-7
Isaiah 9:6-7
Luke 1:31-33
Isaiah 40:9-11
Jeremiah 23:5-6
1 John 5:20
Hebrews 1:2-3
Revelation 2:23
Hebrews 1:6-9
Job 11:7-9
Isaiah 40:12-14
:)
Love granted to me is full with the brethren.
Amen.
Verse 16 says that if any man see his brother (That is, a Christian), sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death.
You see, it's God's will that if I see a brother or sister involved in a sin that is not unto death, (And that's the rejection of Christ), I can pray for every born again believer, and God's life will minister to them, because God will not allow His people to live in habitual sin. And I can pray according to His will. But then he goes on to say that there is a sin unto death: And I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Verse 17 says that all unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. So, all unrighteousness is sin. That's the non-believer. And there is a sin that's not unto death.
All the sins that Christians commit are not unto death. The only sin in the bible that is unto death is in Matthew 12:31-32. Jesus said wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The Holy Spirit is here to convict people of their need of Christ. If you reject His testimony, you have committed the unpardonable sin. So what John is saying is that I can't pray for someone who is rejecting Christ. I can't pray for them to get saved because that's between them and God. I just pray for His will to be done.
Amen.
Amen.
She is a sister in Christ, fully in love with her Lord. Yet she had blasphemous thoughts constantly ringing through her head. And so severe were they, that she believed those thoughts were not just passing thoughts, but being articulated in her own words against God. In sessions of counselling with her, she actually admitted that she heard foul voices compelling her to blaspheme against God & numerous occasions of believing that she had lost her salvation. Many servants of God had shared & prayed with her, but she continued to grow weak in spirit because of this continual turmoil in her head. She did love the Lord & so was perplexed how she could love Him & yet blaspheme Him.
Now, I know that you may or may not identify with this dear one, but what was determined was that this was not a spiritual problem per se, but had its roots in her brain function. She was one who had some type of 'chemical deficiency' that seemed to play havoc with her thinking & particularly manifested in this spiritual area. She enjoys great relief now from these 'voices & thoughts' as her Christian doctor/psychologist has her on medication to deal with this brain aberration/deficiency. She did come off or reduced her medication at times, & the mental afflications began. Her doctor often had to regulate her dosage.
I just share the above to give you another side to this dilemma & not at all suggesting this must apply to you. Maybe something to explore - and if you do, I think only a Christian doctor would understand your experience - others might write you off as crazy.
We all feel like that periodically. Me too. I WAS "harming Christians with Astrology." Satan hates servants that walk out on him; as in give their lives and future to Jesus. Exchange all the bad stuff and give ALL of it to Jesus. Receive His blood atonement, shed for you. Make Him your Lord and Savior forever.
Book of Acts 19:19__get rid of things you know in your heart, are cursed things or idols. The Holy Spirit will help you all the way.
Read your Bible in silence. "White noise" is not always helpful. Start in the New Testament. Find out exactly who Jesus is to you; what he promises to you. Proverbs are for Wisdom. Psalms to comfort your soul. 2 Peter 3, to understand we're running out of time. 1,2,3, John, how to forgive yourself.
Jesus is the 2nd Person of the Godhead ( Romans 1) and He says, Seek (ME) and you will find Him. He doesn't leave ussometimes we walk away from Him. Stay close and talk Out, to Him, what exactly is bothering you.
Honestly, Satan buzzes around us like moths do to a light bulb; trying to get us back. He just wants us dead. But he knows you are off limits now. ASK God to send a couple of angels to walk with you for a time and be your bodyguards.
Don't limit your faith. Ask for what you NEED. Not worldly wants.
Everybody in these comment rooms are here for you. Someone helped us once even now. Let's help each other, pray needs, and encourage; edify.
Peace be upon you from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
If you're referring to something you thought or did before you came to know the Lord, then I personally don't believe you are guilty of this. I think it's closer to the opposite of what the other commenter said. I think it's especially for Christians who already 'know better' and already know the truth, then reject it to the point of calling good evil and evil good and claiming evil motives- perhaps like an ultimate betrayal, and it might also involve denying the holy spirit within you. I hesitate to even write this as an example. A clear example of this blaspheming is Matthew 12:24 by the Pharisees. Jesus logically refuted it, but it's unclear whether He was saying the Pharisees then had no chance to go to heaven, because I don't believe they had true knowledge of the truth yet. I think it's possible Judas committed this as well. It's possible Peter committed this, but was forgiven in a special circumstance, possibly.
My Biblical support for this is Hebrews 10:26 and 2 Peter 2:20-22 and 1 Timothy 1:13 and Hebrews 6:4-6 and Luke 23:34. Maybe more here: Link
This is my personal opinion. Romans 1:20 could be used to suggest otherwise, but it's my opinion that it is only concerning knowing there's a God, not necessarily having the full truth of Jesus Christ and the holy spirit and then denying. I also don't believe falling away qualifies. I think we're talking about a full on rejection and I hate even the thought while writing this, but if it couldn't happen Jesus would not have warned us about it. God bless.
This causes me trouble because, that may mean that I cannot be forgiven. I have had blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Spirit and evil thoughts that I regret but Jesus said that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. Sometimes there was temptation other times ruminating on thoughts. I feel empty and anxious and have been mentally all over the place for a while. So I am not sure what to do with my life. It is written that will never be forgiven and I feel so far from Christ. Thank you for your frankness.
Also beware of anyone claiming that you can't commit a certain type of sin if you're a Christian. Anyone can commit blasphemy of the holy spirit and we indeed need to watch what we say to avoid sinning. Anyone claiming it's no big deal or that Christians can't commit certain sins, as if there's an invisible force field or as if our freewill to choose is removed, is simply untrue. Watch out for false teachings. If blasphemy wasn't a big deal Jesus wouldn't have warned everyone about it. Jesus warned everyone to avoid sin repeatedly, over and over.
God is very, very forgiving, but we must follow Him! Keep in mind that Paul, one of the best evangelists for Christianity, previously murdered Christians. We must give it our 100% to avoid sin and obey! Some are uncomfortable with this as they feel like they're giving up freedom or being controlled, or they heard at a sermon once that good works or effort is bad. But that's not from the Bible. The Bible says to become slaves of righteousness. Jesus says if you love Him then obey his commandments. Some falsely assume that means you're 'earning' heaven. Nope, doesn't mean that. Christianity is an active pursuit to be like Jesus. Those who are luke warm should be concerned. It says in the Bible many times to fear God. Some of this is explained in Hebrews 6 and many other places (the entire book is even better). God bless.
People today don't have the undeniable physical presence of Jesus Christ in the world. So they can't recreate the Pharisees' sinful event. But it's still possible to end up in an unpardonable state. This happens when a person rejects the Holy Spirit's call to salvation and holy living, and then dies in a condition of unbelief.
The stages leading to an unpardonable state are simple. An unbeliever chooses to sin, even though he knows it's wrong. He resists the Holy Spirit's gentle prompts toward conviction and salvation. Over many years, this hardens his heart against God. A time comes when the Holy Spirit makes no impression. Any desire for the Lord has dried up. No sermon or song can move him. His heart is hardened to the Gospel.
No sin can separate you from God's love. Only a conscious decision to reject the Lord can result in your spending an eternity apart from Him. Don't wait another minute to receive His offer of salvation.
Blasphemy: Contemptuous or profane speech or action concerning God or a sacred entity.
Contempt: a feeling that someone or something is not worthy of any respect or approval
Contempt against the Holy Spirit is equal to not being saved. How can someone who accepts Jesus as their savior and have the Holy Spirit hold it in contempt? Conversely, How can someone whose sins aren't forgiven be saved? If you are saved, this doesn't apply to you.
Don't live in fear over this or over anything. F.E.A.R. = False Evidence Appearing Real. Fear is Satan's strongest weapon to destroy your life. Fear is the opposite of love. Even your misinterpretations of the bible can be used against you.
If you have blasphemous thoughts over this it's because your mind focuses on what you fear. Those thoughts are not your own, don't accept them. If you actively try to ignore something, the opposite will happen. Instead, focus on good things.
John 5:24, Romans 8:15
I would like to support what brother Jesse said and would like to add to it if I may.
Perhaps here's what the Pharisees rejected as some Jews and Gentiles do till this day. " Ephesians 1:13. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, ( THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION:) in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise," The preaching of the cross had no effect on them, they desired a sign and yet ignored all the signs even though Jesus met all the criteria for the messiah they were seeking.
Paul says in 1Corinthians 1:21-22. For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. ( FOR THE JEWS REQUIRE A SIGN,) and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
Here in John 10:37-38. Jesus reasons with them on that.
"If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him."
In Mathew 12:13-24. Jesus performed the signs and wonders and healed many...
But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. In John 10:38 he said "though ye believe not me, believe the works: THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND BELEIVE, THAT THE FATHER IS IN ME, AND I IN HIM." But they contribute the work of the Holyspirit to that of Satan. For one to be saved he has to be drawn by the Holyspirit, knowingly in need of a savior and the Holyspirit would have to draw these Pharisees away from what they trusted as do some of us, THE LAW. Paul says But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, They rejected Him. "THE HOLYSPIRIT"
God bless.
Please allow me to share this with you. What does it mean to commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? The word blasphemy literally means to reject. You used Matthew 12:31-32, so let's focus on what's being said there. Who's Jesus speaking to? Obviously not to saved believers who have been born of God's Spirit because the Holy Spirit had not come yet.
In those two verses, Jesus is not addressing saved people who have the Holy Spirit in them that if they commit blasphemy (Rejection) against the Holy Spirit, they cannot be forgiven. He's speaking to Jewish leaders who were already in a condition of rejection.
A person comes to Christ only when God's Spirit brings conviction to their heart and shows them their need of a Savior. They begin to realize that they need to be forgiven. But why would they come to Christ to begin with? They come to Christ because the Holy Spirit draws them to Christ.
If you haven't caught on to what I'm saying, please let me explain. Let's say I am an unsaved person. I just came to the realization that I am a sinner destined to Hell. I may not realize that God's Spirit has shown me this, but I am now convinced that I need a Savior. I need Christ. Now I have a choice to make. Do I surrender my life to Jesus Christ? Or, do I reject (Blaspheme) the testimony of God's Spirit coming to me and showing me that I am a sinner in need of a Savior and turn away from my only hope of salvation?
I've received Christ. I did not reject (Blaspheme) His Spirit. All my sins have been forgiven, past, present, and future. Jesus said all manner of sin shall be forgiven except for the sin of rejecting His Spirit. Since I've received His Spirit into my life, I will never be in that pre-salvation condition of rejection. Those who commit blasphemy (Rejection) of God's Spirit, they do it before receiving Christ. They've rejected His Testimony showing them their need of a Savior. For that, they cannot be forgiven.
Have you been born of God's Spirit?
The Holy Spirit, through men, wrote the WORD(S) of God ( 2 Peter 1:21).
To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to NOT BELIEVE the Words of God.
Everyone blasphemes the Holy Spirit; until the Holy Spirit intervenes an CAUSES that person to BELIEVE ( Philippians 1:29).
The word you have to believe are not just a few scriptures (words) but ALL the scriptures (words).
Matthew 12:31-32 says they wont be forgiven in this AGE or in the AGE to follow.
Do you know how many AGES God has ordain in the AGE that has no beginning and no end. No we don't know.
God's word says that after this AGE and the AGE to follow, that they will be saved.
Isaiah 26:9 ...When thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the earth will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Isaiah 45:23 ...That unto me every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess ....
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow ......
Philippians 2:11 And every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
1 Timothy 4:10 ...Who is the saviour of ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.
This is going to be fulfilled some time after this AGE and the AGE to follow.
Sadly most don't believe these words of God.
Peace
Here's verses about it:
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Here's a previous discussion I found via advanced search and selecting discussions.
Link
More verses:
Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that"
"Christians no longer have freewill to sin? Is that true?"
Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"
Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Hebrews 6:4-6
James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."
James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
Romans 11
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Matthew 12:31-32
Romans 14:12
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'
2 Peter 3:17
Luke 8:5-18
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Peter 2:20-22
Hebrews 3:12
Galatians 5:4
1 Corinthians 15:2-8
2 Peter 2:20-21