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Jeremiah 49:11

Leave thy fatherless children, I will preserve them alive; and let thy widows trust in me.

Lamentations 5:3

We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers are as widows.

Mark Chapter 12

41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

44 For all they did cast in of their ABUNDANCE, but she of her WANT did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

Comment: Jesus sees what we put in the offering, and what's in our hearts.

Hello Kenebrew.

I think Jesus wants to point out that it's not what i give to God but what i give from what is available to me. So if i have little and give it ito God is considered by God more than smd else who gives a lot more but its only a small fraction of what he has. This also works parabolic. So give Lord everything you have. What you can do for God? You think that just praying for other people is little and have nothing else to give, money or something else? Well give it to God, He will appreciate it very much.

GBU

Matthew 6, Matthew 19:16-30, Luke 18:18-30, Luke 14:33, Luke 12,

Verses 42- 44, Jesus notes that the widow gave all that she had. In the next chapter, the synagogue is to be destroyed in the future. Previously in verses 38-40, Jesus told them to beware of the scribes which devour widows' houses. Isn't that precisely what is happening here? The widow gave all that she had and now has nothing. Jesus did not comment that we should do the same. Isn't this more of a condemnation of the scribes and the system?

Hi all dear, now you all talk a lot again. When referring to Timothy about the treatment of church members, it does not agree with paying taxes to the Emperor / King / State. Romans 13 1 Timothy 6:10-12 ALvin Kamberi is right, and all. But The 10 commandments state the importance of what we should worship and honor. God Alone. God must have everything. Colossians 3:12-17 we have no reason to revel and wallow in the riches of the world. Not even Jesus did, though He could fully enjoy all the benefits of the world. He lived soberly and always worshiped God. Gethsemane as described in Luke 22:44 Then He strained so that he sweated blood.

But we must work with our hands

Mark 12:17

Oh, as I wish we Christians could take care of each other, have daily conversations, have daily testimonies, have daily care for each other. Living in a collective. The model was and lives as in the time of the Acts of the Apostles. We have this web then which is a little skin of the real life we should have had :) So I thank you all every day. The apostles sold everything they had and gave to the needy. New members were added daily! Acts 2

:D In English we say woman and man. I hold that all men stand before God in truth as a Spirit with Him.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

This is an important strategist in how we should live. At that time, it was probably not men's work and women's work that we like and talk about today. We did not come to the hospital to give birth. Even then, they were equal. But then of course the evil came! Take care of yourself, and do not accept what is free, it can be dangerous.

ohh the space again :D, Jesus loves u all.

Mary Ann Knight,

You ever notice after a wedding difference people will focus details on certain aspects of things? Sometimes it's things that you yourself didn't notice or didn't seem as significant as something else. Some talk about the cake, another about the people that attended, another can't get over how white the dress was, others saw the doves released.

There's also differences in personalities It may be one of reasons that Jesus chose the varying difference in people that wrote the Gospels. Knowing each would have a unique perspective & emphasis on different details.

Matthew speaks much about angels, major significant events pertaining angels. Matthew 4:6,11, Matthew 13:39,41,49, Matthew 18:10, Matthew 22:30, Matthew 24:31,36, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 26:53, in context: Matthew 26,

Mark 1:13, Mark 8:38, these following 3 Matthew & Mark both discuss: Mark 12:25, Mark 13:27,32,

Luke has emphasise on several events others do not mention: Luke 1, Luke 2, but, like Matthew & Mark mention Luke 4:10,

Luke 9:26, mentioned by atleast 1 other. Luke 12:8,9,

You asked also if the others were present or witnessed the angels, it looks like Luke 24:23, testifies to that question. & John 20:12, testifies to angels being present.

John also notes John 20:30-31, John 21:25,

Hopefully this is helpful

Hi Anthony.

Part 1 of 2.

The way you asked the question, "Does the ten commandments apply to all including gentiles?" I would say, yes.

The next question would be, did the 10 commandments slay us all as Paul mentioned in Romans 7:8-9. I would say yes. Because no one has been able to keep the law. Even the greatest 2 Commandments is out our reach without being born again.

Mark 12:29-31. This is a love we can't produce without the Holyspirit being present. It's a fruit of the spirit, and all the law hangs on it.

Galatians 5:14. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

This is what baptism mentioned in Romans 6 is all about. "Not the outward profession we do in water but the inward identification of the Spirit." which has much to say about the sabbath.

In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:11-17.

see Part 2.

Mark 12:26-27 is the parallel passage to Luke 20:37-38 where Jesus made the arguement using God's statement "I am the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob", while Luke seems to be arguing that when Moses wrote that the memorial name of the Lord is the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob that Moses intended to teach that God is the God of the living. Either way, the Sadducees only accepted the Torah as God's Word and held that the resurrection of the dead was never taught by Moses. Jesus said they were greatly mistaken about Moses teaching and had no understanding of the meaning of this part of his conversation with the Lord at the burning bush.

- "Were the sons of god mentioned in the old testament the ones who went in unto the daughters of men and bred the giants (Nephelim)?"

Yes, see Genesis 6. It is plainly stated in v4. This is why God decides to destroy all flesh except Noah who is perfect (whole) in his gene-rations (DNA?). Also see Genesis 3:15 and notice there will be a serpent's seed and the woman's seed.

- "Now I know that angels cannot breed, so that rules them out."

The Bible says that the angels in HEAVEN are not given in MARRIAGE ( Matthew 22:30 & Mark 12:25). It does not say the angels do not have the ability to rebel (we know they do) and leave heaven to procreate with women on earth. Jude 4 references God punishing angels harshly who left their first estate (heaven) and own habitation. Why? Well, cross reference Genesis 6: they cohabitated or married and bore children with women against God's will. Remember the two seeds in Genesis 3?

- "The men who first began to call upon the name of the lord were called the sons of god. So could you clarify for me?"

Actually, this is a myth about the line of Seth. Genesis 4:25 mentions Seth having a son named Enos and then after that men began to call upon the name of the LORD. The Bible does not call them sons of God. Mankind lost that sonship when Adam sinned. It is only restored after the cross when one receives the Lord Jesus Christ ( John 1:12).

- So who does the Bible refer to as sons of God?:

"sons of God"

Referenced 5 times in the OT & is always a reference to heavenly beings directly created by God.

Referenced 6 times in the NT for the saved who are born of God.

"son of God" in Luke 3:38 is reference to Adam when he was created directly by God.

"Son of God" is references 46 times. 45 times in the NT for the Lord Jesus and once in the OT ( Daniel 3:25) is a reference to the Lord pre-incarnate.

Looks like you received good answers. The only verse I may add is love thy neighbor as yourself, which can be quite challenge to follow: Mark 12:31

My main take on these passages is the point of trying to tell Jesus how the word of God is. It is like an author of a book being told by a reader what he was trying to say by their interpretation. Errancy was rampant by personal thought instead of divine revelation. Revelation explains in chapter one that it was given by an unveiling. God help us to remove our own veils to see what He intends and not our own.

Little g gods are usually fake gods most never living, therefore not alive therefore dead.

Judges 10, Jeremiah 16, Deuteronomy 6, Exodus 20:23, Jeremiah 2:11,

1 Corinthians 8:1-6, John 10:34-38,

Acts 14, man shouldn't be worshipped.

Jesus the Son of GOD, Matthew 26:62-64, THE MESSIAH our SAVIOUR, Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 19, "The Way" died & arose from the grave, 1 Samuel 2:6, Revelation 2:8, Deuteronomy 32:39, John 3:15-16,

* Luke 20:38,

I serve GOD ALMIGHTY, Jeremiah 10:10, Revelation 1, Revelation 21, Rev 22, The Alpha & Omega Revelation 1:8, Genesis 1, Psalms 103:17, Mark 12:27, Matthew 22:32, Psalms 42:4, Psalms 90:2, Hebrews 10:31, 1 Timothy 4:10,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

Here are several scriptures I found about death & after death : James 2:26, Ecclesiasticus 38:23, Ecclesiasticus 22:11, 2 Maccabees 7:36, 2 Maccabees 12:44, Ecclesiasticus 10:11, Ecclesiasticus 17:28, Baruch, 2:17, Psalms 88:10, Psalms 115:11, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

after death,: Matthew 17:1-3, Luke 7:12-16, Luke 8:49-56, John 11:21-45, Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16:22-31, John 21:14, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10, Mark 12:25,26,27, Luke 24:46, John 5:12, John 5:25, 1 Peter 1:3, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:5, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 14:9-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20,21, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:9, Matthew 22:32, Isaiah 26:19,

Hebrews 11:35, Revelation 20, 2 Esdras 2:16, Hebrews 6:2, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 11:4, Hebrews 13:20, Revelation 11:18,

Hopefully these are helpful.

I will comment on versus 17-19

The Lord Jesus said he did not come to destroy the Law of God, meaning the Ten Commandments in stone, rather he taught he came to fulfill that law, knowing it would expire as soon as he fulfilled it. :18 Apparently by the time that John the Baptist started his ministry, the Lord Jesus Christ had fulfilled the law, therefore it was now expired. Luke 16:16 According to the Apostle Paul, Christians have died unto that Law of God, Romans 7:4 knowing all Christians are delivered from the Ten Commandments in stone. Romans 7:6-7 that being dead to us. Then does the Lord Jesus speak of the least commandments in :19 When reading Mark 12:29-31 the Lord Jesus calls the Ten Commandments written the the heart, the greatest commandments, therefore, all other commandments found in the New Testament are the least commandments. I have studied the entire New Testament and discovered about twelve hundred commandments were given in seventeen different categories. All of these commandments are known as the least commandments. For Christians to become great in the kingdom of God today, they must practice the least commandments and teach others the least commandments also, as these two things are required in conditional promises, if someone desires to become great in God's kingdom.

This is my name.

It's alright if you don't wish to respond to me, which ever the reasons may be. Please read: John 19:28, 1 Peter 1:20,

John 19:36, prophetic fulfilled by Isaiah the same Prophet that declares GOD's recompense, vengeance, punishment. Romans 11:2,

Luke 4:18,19, Isaiah 53, Luke 4:23-27, Galatians 3:8, Acts 8:32, Mark 15:28, Psalms 22, John 19,

John 19:37, John 20:9, 2 Timothy 3:16, Mark 12:10, John 13:18, John 7:42, John 17:12,

Luke 8:28

Jude 1,

Matthew 25:31-46,

Hello Becki,

From what I understand most (or all) of us answering questions & possibly moderating are volunteers, that's what I've been told, I'm one that is. Freely I've received freely I should give. Matthew 10:8,

I myself did not answer because I don't know that teaching.

I am sorry that happened & I wish it didn't happen here. Each person here has their own reasons to be here. I jump on here irregularly, sometimes it's daily sometimes not for months. I do notice several questions do get overlooked= that's why I continue to volunteer here. = To try & answer the questions that seem to get skipped, overlooked, lost inside many words... Sometimes I answer a question that was overlooked & then there are several people giving alternative answers, weirdly. I was actually discouraged much recently & was going to stop volunteering here starting last night/today. Of course I prayed. Then after reading the WORD here just now, I went back into Discussion tab to find book in proposed reading 4 new year. & I saw your response, I feel a tug on my heart to help you. I don't believe that teaching of the Angels of GOD having children. Please read these scriptures: Matthew 22:28-32, Mark 12:24-25, Romans 8:14-17, John 1:12, Jude 1:1-25, if that were possible it would've happened in Tobit 3:7-17, Tobit 6:13-14 wouldn't it have?

I recommend reading the HOLY Scriptures 2 Timothy 3:1-17,

Hopefully these are helpful

Donna The greek translation means inseparable like our relationship with our Father God when born again

spiritually nice eh.

I read that In Hebrew the "one" used in the lord our God is "one" translates as " in unity with".

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. Jesus is all human and all God. Satan is a created being. He has no authority as a result from Jesus dying on the cross for The World.

{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.

Matthew Henry Commentary from this Website

MARK 12:28-34

28-34 Those who sincerely desire to be taught their duty, Christ will guide in judgment, and teach his way. He tells the scribe that the great commandment, which indeed includes all, is, that of loving God with all our hearts. Wherever this is the ruling principle in the soul, there is a disposition to every other duty. Loving God with all our heart, will engage us to every thing by which he will be pleased. The sacrifices only represented the atonements for men's transgressions of the moral law; they were of no power except as they expressed repentance and faith in the promised Saviour, and as they led to moral obedience. And because we have not thus loved God and man, but the very reverse, therefore we are condemned sinners; we need repentance, and we need mercy. Christ approved what the scribe said, and encouraged him. He stood fair for further advance; for this knowledge of the law leads to conviction of sin, to repentance, to discovery of our need of mercy, and understanding the way of justification by Christ.

You can Google this too and choose the website "Bible Hub DOT com" to read commentary by other Bible Scholars. Type it like this=

Mark 12:28-34, Bible Commentaries

Joseph estes this was the children of israels biggest problem and still is today in many areas of life.

the four main areas self others religion man made or environment{last one nature} all but

the one true god.

Hello Joseph. That is a great verse couplet ( Mark 12:29,30), which needed no explanation from Jesus, as every Jew had that those words indelibly etched in their minds. This is what they refer to as the "Shema", which means 'Hear' in Hebrew. What Jesus did add, was verse 31, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." And to this declaration, the Scribe/Lawyer clearly affirmed Jesus' Words, to which Jesus perceived that the man was "not far from the kingdom of God". Muslims also have a common declaration which is always repeated, known as the Shahada, but it doesn't bear repeating here because of its content.

However, I don't believe that Jesus was inferring the Trinity, or His Deity, by quoting the Shema. Jesus somewhat veiled this aspect of His Divinity, though never denying any outburst from the religious leaders for His 'blasphemous claims' (e.g. Matthew 26:59-65; John 10:30-38). I think that when certain spiritual eyes were opened, they were able to know from the Words of Jesus & the demonstration of His Life & Works, that this was no ordinary Man, however blessed He might be from God. This was One they had never encountered before: might they be standing before, seeing & listening to God Himself, now come to them in human form to bring light & hope to their darkened souls? When we read the Gospels, we see clearly this conflict amongst many who came before Him; many hated Him & wanted to dispose of Him - others realized the Messiah of God had come for their sakes & they'd better pay attention to Him.

And even though the word 'trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures, all the references to that point to Jesus' presence with God & part of the Godhead ( John 3:13; John 6:38; Colossians 2:9; John 1:1-14; John 10:30; Colossians 1:15-17; & many more), give us undeniable proof of Him & His Words. Only the Christ from God could fully pay the price for our sins, securing our redemption.

What about a discussion of Mark 12:29? I find it interesting, after the scribe (verse 28) asks the important question, "What is the greatest commandment?", that there is seldom commentary regarding the actual answer (verse 29): "Jesus answered him saying, 'The greatest commandment is know, O Israel, the Lord OUR God is one Lord."

Discussion here completely omits any dialog about this verse about the answer Jesus gives him the clear and true meaning gets left out by saying, ".. the great commandment, which indeed includes all, is, that of loving God with all our hearts." What it also "includes" is the great commandment [quote]: "Jesus answered him saying, 'The greatest commandment is know, O Israel, the Lord OUR GOD is ONE Lord' (emphasis added).

Jesus is including himself with "OUR GOD" and why would he say "ONE" Lord, instead of trinity.

Also, if the word 'Trinity' is nowhere in the Bible . . . what can we think about that?

Thank you so much for opening up my mind and heart to consider the possibility of learning how to think for myself - instead of thinking what I'm told to think.

I love the beautiful way the Bible still tells it like it is, when it comes to monotheism.

One God.

Him I really want love with all my heart, mind, soul and spirit. Yes, I want to pray to the same God Jesus prayed to.

Genesis 1:26-27, Genesis 2:15,18,22,23, Genesis 3:20, Genesis 5:1-2, interesting it appears by this GOD called them Adam, it was man that named her "Woman & Eve"

Hopefully this is helpful

Through the Adam Genesis 4:25-26, Genesis 5:1-32, comes the line of the living, physically & Spiritualy, Matthew 1:1-16, Luke 3:23-38, John 1:1-5, John 3:15-16, Mark 12:27,

Luke 21:1-4, Mark 12:38-44,

God bless Carol Mark 12: 40-44 The point was sha gave what she had from the Heart in private as,

in contrast to putting on a self righteous show or look at what I'm giving. Totally different heart!

Hopefully these scriptures fully answer your question: Matthew 22:23-32, Mark 12:23-27, Hebrews 1:13-14, Hebrews 13:1-2,

Hello Jackie,

I noticed your prayer request and your question like you were looking for input from others. Assuming you are I'm happy to offer a few observations based on what you shared. I have had challenges with my own neighbors and it is really challenging to love thy neighbor and pray for them when they may seem so opposing.

Sometimes the most helpful response is not the one someone wants or expects. A few things you said makes me believe you are equally responsible for the problems with your neighbor and I will be happy to share that, assuming you want to hear it.

First, are you loving your neighbor and praying for them? You have asked for prayer and I have prayed for your situation, but have you genuinely prayed for your neighbor and how to be more loving as the Bible teaches? Have you prayed for their salvation? James 4:12, Luke 6:32, Matthew 5:44, Mark 12:31.

Next, there is nothing wrong with security cameras. They are an important deterrant to criminals.

You said you were able to see in their window and read a poster. Were you snooping and peeking through your neighbors windows at their private things? If so, that seems very wrong.

I believe you called your neighbors adversaries, but they're not supposed to be enemies. The Bible says satan is your real adversary: 1 Peter 5:8.

You said they kept a package, but did you ask for it back? Maybe they were out of town. Did the company reimburse or mail another? This seems pretty easy to resolve and is a common problem.

You said they are suspicious, but maybe they think you are suspicious? If I caught someone looking in my windows that definitely be hard to get over.

To rekindle the relationship perhaps show love and lead by example- the card idea is great.

This likely wasn't what you wanted to hear, but maybe it is the helpful. God bless...

Agree more with Glenn, because Genesis 1:26, "them" "over all the Earth"

Rick, please read : Mark 12:27, Luke 20:36-38, Hebrews 9:14-15, Luke 9:60, Genesis 2:17,

Genesis 3:20,

John 3:3,5,6,

Numbers 23:19, 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, Leviticus,

Nowhere, is that stated in Scripture. Colossians 2:8

Revelations 22:19,

The Lord to bless you Alice. God will help you__Mishael

Psalm 27:10

When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Ephesians 1:5

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to HIMSELF, according to the good pleasure of his will,

There is no greater commandment from God than we are to love God and love others. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength. The second most important command is this: Love your neighbor the same as you love yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these ( Mark 12:30-31).

The ultimate commandment is to love. When we love God, we trust God, we trust God's Word, and we want to obey all His commandments. We love our neighbor (family, friends, children and strangers), we treat them with gentleness, kindness, patient, hope, support, trust, forgiveness, and we believe in them. In the same way, when we love ourselves, we are positive in our actions and hope, we believe in ourselves, and we believe in our position in Christ. When we love others, we are obeying God's greatest commandment.

Children's needs are small really: a bed, food, hugs and touch, a few special toys, a walk around the block to imprint where they live now, see other children. Assurance that you will never leave them; and that their mother is ok and they can talk to her in prayer. They don't need details unless they ask.

When sin happens, we wait 30 mins for impatience and anger to pass. Discuss the issue, both parties decide appropriate "punishment" calmly. I took a favorite toy and put high up out of reach for an hour so they see it and long to be restored to it. Set a alarm clock.

Yelling hardens the heart and resentment boils inside. Daily, read a few Proverbs & discuss their meaning.