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The letter i does refere to most time the person beeing address.

I was wondering if. The letter l has any biblical meaning. When I look at the words world and word there is only one difference and that is the letter l. I know there is a reason for everything and just wondering. Any comments?

john knew it was time for jesus ministry to begin and his to come to a end he prepared the way .

If you read what I posted I think it's obvious that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist to fulfill all righteousness.

Matthew 3:15 "And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him." 16 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"

If you look at the bottom of your previous response, this was in reply to why you questioned, the need for Jesus to be baptized.

these are your words, The question, Why did Jesus need to be baptized is a good question.

Are you saying that you agree that Jesus was baptized? That is certainly what the Bible tells us.

In Old Testament, the Jewish people and their ancestors were given the Law to observe. First, What Adam and Eve should observe was that they could not eat the fruits from the tree of wisdom. Then, their son Cain was told that he should not kill. As sins became increased, the laws were also added more. Up to the generation of Moses, the Law in Old Testament was given to Israelites. We know that the Law is good and the Law is used to punish people who commit sins, but people cannot obey the Law because the sinful spirits are in people. Even that we know stealing and giving false testimony are sinful, but greedy and pride spirits in us drive us to do sinful things. So as Old Testament prophesied we need to get rid of our sinful nature from our spirits.

Ezekiel 36 section 24-27 says: "'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

The prophecies are fulfilled when Jesus begins to teach love. The two greatest commandments are " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" Love is above the Law and if people have love they are free from the law of sin and death. People who are full of love will not think about stealing or giving false testimony but are merciful and they feed hungry people or give thirsty people something to drink or invite strangers in or clothe people who need clothes. The Law is for people who commit sins. Nobody will say that he will get reward because he does not steal before. But love is the grace we get.

can you love GOD but still sins

Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill, If you read in Luke he was also circumcised and he didn't need to be, likewise in Matthew, John says that he needed to be baptized of Jesus, but Jesus reply's that all righteousness needs to be fulfilled.

Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

When a person is baptized they confess their sin. And in Matthew we learn Jesus was baptized.

Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15. And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Hello Marilyn,

Where are you getting "Jesus needed to be baptized or to repent of something"? So you don't believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life for you and me?

Jesus Christ is completely on a different level than all other people. Even John saying that he needed to be baptized of Him in Matthew 3:14-15. Jesus saying He did it to fulfill all righteousness. Maybe just to humble himself.

So the question really is do you believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life and was sent by God the Father?

Marilyn Taplin, You err greatly.

"However, there must have been something he needed to repent of."

Jesus never sinned.

"Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth" 1 Peter 2:22

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin" 2 Corinthians 5:21

"And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." 1 John 3:5

Peter said he didn't, Paul said he didn't and John said he didn't, but you "suppose" he did. In your fifty years of Bible study, have you seen any verse that, states in context, that he sinned?

The "why" has no connection to baptism, as Rod explained to you.

"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God." Luke: 18:19.

The question was asked why did Jesus need to be baptized? He was not a fornicator. However, there must have been something he needed to repent of.

The original meaning of the word Baptism is to be washed from all the laws written in the book of Leviticus. Baptism is washing one's self from breaking any of those laws. In Matthew 3:6, "And were baptized of him confessing their sins." People are washed by confessing their sins. They are washed by the word of God. By believing the truth.

Lu 3:3 " And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins".

Baptism is confessing your sins. That is what baptism is as stated in Matthew 3:6, "and were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins."

The question, Why did Jesus need to be baptized is a good question.

Why did he say not to share what had been done?

When you read why Jesus says "Why callest thou me good?", this is a question on Jesus part, in response to a certain ruler's question in regards on how to inherit eternal life, He did not say "don't call me good". two totally different meanings.

Luke 18:16-22 Context 16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. 17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein. 18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. 21 And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. 22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Truth, forgiveness

matthew 6 verse 21 please explain

Marilyn Taplin,

"don't call me good", once again you misquote the Lord Jesus. He didn't say "don't", he did ask "why", as the verse you listed plainly shows.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Timothy 2:15

Luke 18: 19, " Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good , save one, this is, God"

Yes, this is the correct scripture and doesn't it say only God is good. Didn't Jesus say don't call me good?

Marilyn Taplin,"

"only God in heaven is good", You have misquoted the Lord Jesus as translated in the KJV, because you added "in heaven", which is not in any of the three gospels Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18 or Luke 18:19, See for yourself.

Hi K Smith,

Jesus said, " Don't call me good, only God in heaven is good." So Jesus needed to be baptized. Then he said he would build a church without spot or wrinkle. Spots and wrinkles are two degrees of sin. Wrinkles are not as great as spots. Spots are a trespass. To trespass is to go too far and God leaves that person. One example of a wrinkle is David when he committed adultery. He did not leave God and God did not leave David. God departs from those who commit evil, the sex of Sodom and Gomorrah. They have spots or you could say they have spiritual leprosy. When we have a church without spot or wrinkle no one will sin a wrinkle size sin or a spot size sin.

But don't forget the significates for John baptizing Jesus. Jesus was without sin so why did he come to John to be baptized? ( Matthew 3:14)

Because revealing him as the Messiah, the Christ, through him (John) he had to be baptized by John.

John did not yet understand that Jesus was actually stepping into the sinners' shoes. And there, where the covenant breakers were confessing their sins, those sins passed onto Jesus and He became sin-laden in our stead. He became the scapegoat for us.

That's a great biography to read, of Sadhu Sundar Singh, especially of his conversion & relentless ministry with the Gospel.

John the Baptist knew that he was only "a voice crying in the wilderness" & that his short-term ministry was to alert men to their sins & their need of the (coming) Saviour. Once Jesus' ministry began, John's ministry would slowly fade away - though of course, we know that he shortly afterwards was beheaded by Herod.

So when John's disciples reported to John that Jesus was baptizing & people were being drawn to him, they thought to themselves that Jesus was over-reaching His authority by doing this & usurping John's ministry. But John explained to them that he (John) was simply the announcer & introducer of Jesus, that Jesus was the 'bridegroom' coming to make up His bride, & John was merely the 'friend of the bridegroom'. So in this vein, it was always in God's Plan that His Son would increase in His influence & ministry to the people, while John's work would now end with Jesus' arrival.

In what aspect John the Baptist was convinced that Jesus has to be increased and he has to be decreased?

Alex, It is you who has taken the word of God out of context, so as to further the lie you teach. Saved by the fire, regardless of what a person believes, is not by faith in Christ to have paid for sins. Jesus did say, "it is finished", that is, the work of salvation which he finished on the cross. "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." Hebrews 12:2 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;" Hebrews 5:9, not ALL, as you say, will enter eternity as saved. Alex, you diminish the sacrifice of Jesus.

While I address this reply to Alex, I know he will not hear. But this forum is open to many others who come here with an intent to hear and see God's word. It is no surprise that agents of Satan will be here to slander God's word. They operate as the fowls following the sower, to take away the seed of truth. Luke 8:12

Study!!! learn the truth!!! why noble nimrod??? because you will hear sweet truth mixed with weak falsehood. you must be be able to tell truth from falsehood or you will follow the deceiving pied piper into hell on earth. that almost happened to me recently. i was saved by the knowledge father god and my twin brother christ gave me through rigorous and hard study through faith in god and christ's tough-love.

the bible says that we all are made in the image of god in genesis 1:27. i am a spiritual revolutionary "life"" coach king of kings and lord of lords ( revelation 19:11-21). christ tells you in revelation 1:18 he conquered death!!! christ lives!!! christ tells you that he is sitting in the throne of victory with his father god in revelation 3:21.

so tell me christian, who is that bloody voodoo image nailed to a cursed catholic/christian cross forever that you worship??? that bloody forsaken image has you religiously trapped and forsaken. that bloody pagan image is not the truth. it is a lie!!! christ is alive and well!!!

anybody can die!!! what proved that christ is the son of god is that he defeated death!!! christ defeated death on the cursed cross!!!( revelation 1:18) christ won so that you can win....through faith in his victory over death!!!

these truly are the "last days." stand strong together brothers and sisters!!! amen.

To FRED SCANLAN

Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

CHASTENING

Deut. 8:5

Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

Proverbs 3:11

Isaiah 26:16

1 Cor. 11:32

Hebrews 12:5,6

James 1:12

1 Peter 1:7

Rev. 3:15-21

AFFLICTIONS

Psalms 34:19; 132:1

Isaiah 48:10

Acts 7:10; 20:23

2 Cor. 6:4

Col. 1:24

1 Thess 3:3

Hebrews 12:5-12

Rev. 3:18

SICKNESS AND HEALING

Exodus 15:26

Psalm 6:2

Isaiah 30:26

Jer. 30:17

Eze. 34:16

Hosea 6:1

Mal. 4:2

Matthew 10:8

Mark 2:17

Luke 5:31

James 5:15

1 Peter 2:24

Rev. 22:2

RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



2 Chr. 16:12,13

Job 13:4

Psalms 34:19; 108:12

Isaiah 30:1-3

Jer. 17:5-7,14

Hosea 5:13

Mark 5:25-29

Luke 8:43

MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

Job 5:18; 23:10

Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

Isaiah 48:10

Jer. 31:18

Hosea 5:15; 6:1

Romans 8:17

2 Cor. 4:17

Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

Rev. 3:19

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

The Ten Commandments apply today. The (just) are free from their condemnation. (2nd death)

God's (Moral Law) make the arrest

The Gospel sets us free.

Matt. 10:14 (example) Many trample the pearl of grace. Until they see God as a righteous judge,

For them Gods law commands their attention.

Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known & come to light.

Have you ever lied? hated? Lusted? Stole anything? Had sex out side of marriage. Wild imaginations?

What do you call someone who lies? What do you call someone who steals? What is someone called who uses Gods name as a cuss word?

Let's be legalistic. An empty stomach lust for food. Is that sin? Of course not. But

Jesus said whoever looks at another with lust (seizing them with wild imaginations) has already committed adultery with that person in their heart. Forget others, You're in big trouble.

Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, & unbelieving, & the abominable, & murderers, & whoremongers, & sorcerers,& idolaters, and ((all liars)) shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Now back to court....

Telling an honest judge in a court of law you're sorry won't set you free

and you can bet it won't work when we're summoned to stand the living God either.

The wage for our sin must be paid. ((Death))

The bible speaks of only two types of people.

The just and the unjust.

At our judgment reward will be given & taken away.

But God will throw the book at the unjust. (second death)

1 Cor. 15:1-4 Salvation in a nutshell

Acts 17:30-31 God calls all people to repent (turn from unbelief) & warns Christ will (Judge) the world!

Praise God earth is not home of those justified by the finished work of the cross!

The "Just" have been justified by the blood of the Lamb. We have confidence!

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have ((boldness)) in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world!

To JOEL OSTEEN

So, you want us to stop posting our message of Repentance, which is according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17). The emphasis on the word 'cannot'. Legion also wanted to be left alone ( Mark 5:9; Luke 8:30). In summary our message remains the same: Ye must repent.

The Baptism of Repentance is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17). The emphasis again on the word 'cannot'.

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.

Hi Mike,

I'd like to share an alternate viewpoint if you are open to it.

Do you believe that Jesus often spoke parables? These stories and metaphors were a means for teaching and he explained why he used them: Luke 8:10

So, when Jesus said to eat his flesh and blood in John 6:53 did he literally mean to kill him and resort to cannibalism? I believe not, based on all his previous metaphors. Even his followers knew it was symbolic, but didn't quite understand the symbolism yet.

Jesus also said a few verses earlier in John 6:35 that he's the bread of life. Does that mean he's literally a loaf of bread walking and talking? It was a metaphor.

Jesus also explained the purpose of communion in Luke 22:19. Do it in remembrance of Him. If the goal was to literally eat and drink Jesus then you would think he would not have said this. It suggests the whole purpose of communion is to remember Jesus and His sacrifice for our sins and not that we're supposed to literally eat and drink him as food.

Also Jesus says John 14:6, John 10:9, Acts 4:12 that he's the only way for salvation. Not a man. So, I feel if a religion uses another man, like a Pope, in-between you and Jesus that you must go through then it is a false teaching inconsistent with scripture.

God bless!

I also believe this chapter cover a number of things Faith, verse 44 says came from behind him and touch the border of his garment. (the woman with the issues of blood), obey, verse 25 for he commands even the wind and the water,(leaving this disciples baffled). And the power of God, which he demonstrates through out chapter 8. If we trust God and live according to the laws there wouldn't be anything with held from us God word says To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God.