Discuss Luke 8 Page 4

  • Sam Carter on Luke 8 - 3 years ago
    Were else does the bible mention not only Jesus Resurrection but others that were raised up with HIM ON THAT DAY?
  • Eric on Luke 8 - 3 years ago
    Believe! Simple yet hard for some to do. I am reminded. Thank you!
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello, this question was just asked yesterday, and probably every week on this discussion area.

    Here's verses about it:

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    Here's a previous discussion I found via advanced search and selecting discussions.

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    More verses:

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that"

    "Christians no longer have freewill to sin? Is that true?"

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    Matthew 7:21-23

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    2 Peter 2:20-21
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part 1

    If I may give my understanding, did Jesus speak in parables, if so, why? Luke 8:10. In this chapter Jesus was condemning putting faith in wealth and not God, using parables. The Sadducees especially were covetous, they flaunted their wealth and the seat of authority they had and were living in adultery. The Pharisees held many spiritual beliefs not found in the Law of Moses and started in on Jesus. So, according to the rest of the context, Lazarus and the rich man was most likely a parable on the same subject.

    One thing I have found that bears consideration on Luke 16 parable. When Jesus first came, many of the Jews were highly Hellenized and many interpretations of the Law had changed. Greek had become for many the major language and Greek philosophy was deep.

    We see when Stephen and others were chosen to tend to the Hellenized (Grecian) Christian Jewish widows Acts 6:1-5. This parable would have been understood by the heavy Greek influence about death that still influences today. Jesus explains many of the parables to the disciples but this explanation is not recorded. But, is just being poor worthy of the gift of eternal life?

    If our soul or spirit is immortal why would scripture say we are mortal and must put on immortality and this happens at the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:53-57. Does it not say we are sown in corruption, 1 Corinthians 15:42-44? Is not resurrection rising from the dead not descending from the living?

    When this body dies what is left? Scripture tells us without spirit our body dies, James 2:26. Spirit, Latin spiritus, Greek pneuma, is breath, life, and consciousness, being awake, aware of your surrounding and how we respond to it either with vigor or idleness 1 Corinthians 2:11.

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  • Bill - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17 - 3 years ago
    Hello again my brother in Christ

    Appreciate your kind comments on my last post.

    To begin, my comment concerning the number of resurrections from death by Christ must have not been clear to you. I know of only 3 recorded resurrections performed by Christ: Lazarus, John 11:1-44; the widow's son, Luke 7:11-17; and Jairus's daughter, Luke 8:40-56 I then expressed my opinion there were most likely more that were not recorded. I see Christ as a compassionate savior, and personally, believe more miracles were performed than are recorded in today's Bible.

    My conviction the story of Lazarus the beggar is a parable is based on the Hebrew meaning of the name Lazarus meaning "God has helped". Christ was speaking to an audience of disciples originally and some Pharisees later joined the group, verse 14, and began to deride Christ. Christ then speaks to the Pharisees as to their violations of the Law and the parable of Lazarus.

    The parable of Lazarus serves a twofold purpose. First it serves to emphasize the responsibility of those more fortunate to aid the less fortunate. Second, it foretales the rejection of Christ by the Jews, even after the resurrection. The first purpose most likely fell on deaf ears as the Pharisees because of their self-righteousness. The second was not realized and accepted by even the remaining 11 disciples initially.

    Reference to the place of the spirit after death until the gathering of the church by Christ is referenced after the resurrection by Paul, in many places in scripture. Paul refers to the "holding place: as sleep.

    Now, where did the souls John sees in Revelation come from and at what point did they arrive in heaven. Revelation 3:10 is easily interperted as the rapture before tribulation. Revelation 7:9-17 surely is post-rapture by content.

    My point - the spirit of the vast majority of Christians do not enter heaven prior to the rapture. Enoch, perhaps. Elijiah definitely ( 2 Kings 2:11).

    Thank you, my brother in Christ
  • D W L on 1 Corinthians 3 - 3 years ago
    Reply to - Nancy Morgan on 1 Corinthians 3

    Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

    Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

    Luke 8:43 And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,

    Luke 8:48 And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace.

    I have had my shots
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Part 2.

    Brother Chris,

    The second question, first I do not believe anyone can deny the divinity of Jesus or His pre-existence of everything. ( Colossians 1:16) He was the beginning of creation and through Him, everything that is was created. The Son of God was with, from, and was the word of God.

    I feel our mind with the preconceived ideas over the years, plugs our ears and blinds our eyes. It is like the word beginning when we see or hear the word beginning eternity pops in our head. It is like ( John 1:1-2). God has no beginning so, what is this beginning in John 1?

    Scripture tells us God is from everlasting to everlasting, it tells us Jesus is the only begotten Son, the beginning of creation, but scripture does not tell us when or how he was begotten other than it was before creation and when He came in the flesh. Jesus is of God, and from God, the Son of God even the demons knew who He was and did not call Him God, ( Matthew 8:28) ( Mark 5:7) ( Luke 8:28).

    In John 1, John is writing this after Jesus had ascended, in the beginning, is when the Messiah/Jesus first came, the beginning of His ministry, He was the word of God, the Word was God because it was from God, in Him was life and the light of men. John the Baptist was sent to be a witness of this light who was Jesus, and this light cometh to all in the world. It "shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not". As then the same today.

    Jesus now was in the world that He made and they did not know him, He went to his own/Israel and they rejected Him. But as many that received Him became sons of God born again into the kingdom of God not of the will of the flesh but of the Father.

    The word of God was made flesh, in scripture everything Jesus said or did was told to Him by God, ( John 5:30) Jesus was the word of God. In ( 1John 1:1-7) John's opening is similar to his opening in John 1, he is confirming John 1.

    I hope this makes sense?

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Carleton; I AGREE, we are reigning NOW, with him, in truth, in peace, in life, because he has revealed this to us, through his written word AND the living word abiding IN US.

    His word ALSO declares to us what we will BE DOING after we depart this body of flesh.

    Psalms 126:6 He that goeth forth and weepth, BEARING PRECIOUS SEED (written and living, Matthew 13:37, Luke 8:11) shall doubtless COME AGAIN (as SEED) with rejoicing, bring his SHEAVES (the harvest) with him.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Hui Ning Wu,

    I would like to offer another perspective to your comment: "And once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation no matter what you do!"

    I ask, is this true? If true, I would love to commit sins tonight just for fun, because no consequence. Would love to do drugs, have an affair, go to certain clubs to party, maybe even get in a fight, because if we're saved no matter what it wouldn't matter and God would still reward me?

    So, is this true that it's from God and not from satan? Before I do that I would first need to find it in clearly scripture and no other scripture would contradict it. So, if I look through the Bible for evidence, I find the following:

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    This suggests grace won't be given until Jesus comes- maybe even after we're judged. But people are telling me I'm saved and have grace now, so which is true? Does anywhere else in the Bible say that?

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Ok, I guess it does. So, we're not 'saved' yet, huh?

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    So, believing alone isn't enough? So, maybe faith and actions matter?

    Romans 11

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

    But many people are telling me the race is already won and that I can party. So, who is right: God's Word or man's word?

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    1 Corinthians 9:26-27 - this suggests 'trying' is good.

    Evidence showing I should NOT commit sin. God bless...
  • Elouise Stephens - 3 years ago
    Why did Jesus say tell no man what had been done. Luke 8:56
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Earl,

    The word torment used in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is the Greek word BASANOIS. The meaning from Greek to English would pretty much be the same as what we would understand torment to be. Whether it is mental anguish or physical torment, I think it can be both. It seemed to be both for the rich man. He seemed to be in a state of mental torment knowing that his family members (brothers) would soon be in this same place unless someone went to warn them. We also know that he was in physical torment, wanting the tip of his tongue to be cooled. Can you imagine that? Here is a man in physical torment and all he asks is for the tip of his tongue to be cooled. He didn't ask for someone to throw him a rope so he could get out!

    We also know that there is a place of eternal torment called the lake of fire. To tell you how the word torment is used in other verses would take a tremendous amount of time and space. That's a huge favor. I don't mind sharing my understanding with you but I'm not sure I want to tackle that one. The short answer is that the word torment means pretty much the same in English as it does in Greek.

    For the rich man in Hades, he's still in torment. One day he will be released, judged at the Great White Throne Judgement, and then cast into the lake of fire, a place of eternal torment.

    Sorry I couldn't give you more. If you want the verses to look them up, here are the ones I found:

    Matthew 8:29, Mark 5:7, Luke 8:28, Luke 16:28, 1 John 4:18, Revelation 9:5, Revelation 14:11, Revelation 18:7, Revelation 18:10, Revelation 18:15
  • Dianne - In Reply on John 4 - 3 years ago
    Anne The reason is very interesting this is mentioned when in he was back in the area where he was raised in cana of galilee. In Mathew 13:54-58 we read where he went to where he was raised and because they knew the family he came out of He could not do many mighty works there because of unbelief. Many times Jesus Christ went up against people who didn't believe especially where he was raised. In luke 8:49-56 is total grace because he brought back the dead after being laughed at and had to get rid of the unbelief in the room. In luke chapter 4 beginning at verse 16 goes in teaches the word in nazareth where he had been brought up the people look at Him like who are you and how are you doing this. Verse 22 is not this the carpenters son, wrong He was the Son of God he reproves them then look at their reaction verse 28+29 not good. Verse 30 But he passing by went His way, he wasn't phased by their reaction. Prayerfully this answered your question God Bless
  • Chris - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for that explanation brother Earl. I understand Luke 8:5-15 & can even understand your explanation of it. However, in the parable, Jesus uses the 'seed' as an illustration of God's Word being planted into various heart types. It's not used as God being planted/fallen by the wayside/etc. in their hearts. Even though the seed represents God's Word, if we interpret it as God being planted & therefore the Spirit being planted, then we corrupt the meaning & intent of that parable.

    If we then allow that type of interpretation to continue, so many passages, such as Isaiah 41:8, "But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend", might just compel one to think of the "seed of Abraham" to mean 'God's Word/God/a multiplication of gods, instead of simply Abraham's progeny. Even in evangelism, the evangelist shares/scatters the seed over different hearts. He does not scatter God or the Holy Spirit - I believe there must be a distinction, or else the meaning becomes clouded or lost.

    1 Peter 1:23: here again, the Word is that the believers were born again by incorruptible seed (God's Word) as opposed to the corruptible traditions that were first delivered by their fathers (v 18) that could not give a new birth. We might agree with that one but I would disagree with: "When we depart this body of flesh; Spirit ONLY remains, Spirit is GOD, we become (the image of) God." Our spirit never becomes God; our spirits are renewed by the Holy Spirit (born again) & we bear the Image of God, but whether on Earth or depart from it, our spirits don't become God. And this belief then impacts how you understand Psalm 82. As I've already given my understanding of this Psalm in this thread to Samuel, I won't repeat it, except to state that I disagree in toto with your understanding of it; i.e. it is not prophetical at all, rather a warning to the rulers & judges, to which Jesus also inferred in John 10:34.

    I appreciate your contribution Earl.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 3 years ago
    Brother Chris:

    Before I ever knew of this website or read any comments Alex had written, the Spirit had already revealed to me that the Word (God) is SEED and Seed ALWAYS produces SEED just like the SEED it came from.

    Wheat seed produces wheat seed, corn seed produces corn seed, no matter what seed is planted it ALWAYS produces the same seed that was planted.

    Luke 8:13 Now the PARABLE is this: the SEED is the Word of God.

    I know you believe the WORD is GOD; therefore GOD is SEED, GOD is SPIRIT; therefore SEED is SPIRIT, the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost is the WORD, the SPIRIT and ALSO the SEED.

    1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible SEED (flesh), but of incorruptible SEED (SPIRIT), by the Word of God (Spirit of God, Seed of God), which (the Seed, the Spirit, the Word) liveth and abideth forever.



    When we depart this body of flesh; Spirit ONLY remains, Spirit is GOD, we become (the image of) God.

    As for Psalms 82 It is the Word. It is prophecy.

    Psalms 83:1 God (the Word) standeth in the congregation (those that receive the Word) of the mighty; he (the Word) judgeth among the gods (gods that are flesh and gods that are born again SPIRIT; first; you bear the flesh, then the Spirit).

    Psalms 82:2 How long (God, the Word) will you judge unjustly (we see no justice right now), and accept the persons of the wicked?

    Psalms 82:3 (God, the Word) defend the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflected and needy.

    Psalms 82:4 (God, the Word) deliver the poor and needy: (God, the Word) rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

    Psalms 82:5 They (gods of this world) know not, neither do they understand; they walk in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

    Psalms 82:6 I (God, the word) have said (and my WORDS will not return unto me void) YE ARE GODS; the children of the most high.

    But ye shall die like men (flesh, and ONLY the SPIRIT will remain), and fall like one of the princes (of this world).
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen and Amen, Brother Alex!

    It is so hard for those who have not yet completely died (first death) to Christ to COMPREHEND that they are going to be EXACTLY like Christ.

    When wheat seed is planted, the farmer ALWAYS harvest wheat seed. It's ALWAYS an exact copy of the seed planted.

    This is TRUE of all seed planted including the WORD OF GOD.

    Luke 8:11 The parable is this: the SEED is the Word of GOD.

    This SEED; planted in us, will produce SEED EXACTLY like the SEED planted.

    We become the living word, just as Christ is the living SEED (WORD).

    At the death of this body of flesh, Jesus will send the angels to reap the harvest (SEED).

    Ephesians 4:13 Til WE ALL come into the UNITY of the faith, and knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the FULLNESS of Christ.

    Christ is the FULLNESS of the FATHER, we WILL BE the FULLNESS of Christ.

    John 17:21 That they ALL may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us: that the world may BELIEVE that thou hast SENT ME.

    You are going to be GODS!
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 28 - 3 years ago
    Sister Laura, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    To understand the Father, the Son Jesus and the the rest of us (sons and daughters) you have to understand SEED and how it MULTIPLIES ITSELF.

    Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The SEED is the WORD of God.

    The Father is the WORD; therefore, the Father is ALSO the SEED.

    When you place a SEED in fertile soil the SEED sprouts (a body). That growing sprout (body) looks nothing like the SEED planted; but when that SEED matures, the sprout (body) dies and the SEED is harvested. This harvested SEED is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted.

    The FIRST SEED was the FATHER, the FIRST SEED that came from the FATHER (SEED) was CHRIST. NOW there are TWO SEED; but the TWO are EXACTLY ALIKE (ONE), there are one in the sense that when that SEED is planted again in fertile soil it will bring forth SEED EXACTLY like the SEED planted.

    GOD, the FATHER, the WORD, The SEED was FIRST BEGOTTEN in Christ; therefore, Christ became a SEED. He became the fullness: God, the FATHER,the WORD, the SEED.

    When this SEED (Christ in you) is mature and HARVESTED at death of the body, the you become a SEED EXACTLY like THE FATHER and CHRIST.

    John 17:21 That they all may be ONE (SEED); as thou Father, are in me, and I in thee, that they ALSO may be one (SEED), even as we are one (SEED).

    1 Corinthians 15:38 But God (SEED) giveth it (SEED) a body as it has pleased him, and to every SEED his (SEED) own body.

    You are going to be EXACTLY like CHRIST and ready to be planted in fertile ground and bring forth more SEED.

    Isaiah 59:21 And as for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My Spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I HAVE PUT in your mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.

    We can not began to comprehend the glory awaiting us.
  • John 316 on Luke 16 - 3 years ago
    This isn't a comment, been receiving your verse a day for many years. Start my day off with it.But now I wake up and take the verse and put it on a app. Listening to the Holy Spirit on what to say. On line, at first I got this isn't the place for God's Word, but months later, people are saying thanks, amen, gotten JW, anti christ believer. But people our listening and growing in the word of God, Today's verse was James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Used submit to parents, Then I went to the prodigal son story, to the rich man and Lazarus, to putting on the whole armour of God. And lastly John 3:16. Other Bible verses Ephesians 4:27: Luke 8:11-12, I Peter 5:8, I John 3:8, Zechariah 1:3, Psalms 73: 28.

    It's all about having someone come to the Lord Jesus Christ, and believing, trusting, and giving their life to him as their Savior. We both our God's servant, what a blessing!
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Leon, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    I BELIEVE the Spirit is revealing hidden truths to you. I will show you one of those hidden truths He has revealed to me.

    The answer to every question is hidden somewhere in God's word.

    Question? Who are the fowls of the air?

    The answer is found in the parable of the sower.

    Luke 8:5 A sower (Christ) went out to sow his SEED (word or God): and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the FOWLS OF THE AIR devoured it.

    This parable is one of the few Jesus explained.

    Luke 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the DEVIL...

    The FOWLS OF THE AIR are the DEVIL.

    The fowls of the air (Satan) represent scavengers (vultures) and birds of prey (eagles). They (Satan) DEVOUR flesh and CONSUME dead flesh. Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God.

    1 Timothy 1:20 Of whom Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto SATAN (fowls of the air), that they learn not to blaspheme.

    1 Corinthians 5:5 To DELIVER such an one unto SATAN for the DESTRUCTION of the flesh, that the spirit may be save in the day of the Lord Jesus.

    Isaiah 65:25 ....and DUST (flesh) shall be the serpent's (Satan) meat .....

    Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the FOWLS that fly in the midst of heaven (represents MAN, where God dwells), Come and gather yourselves together unto the (marriage) supper of the great God.

    This is happening NOW. Our flesh is being DESTROYED so we can be married (BECOME ONE) to Christ at the death of this body.

    Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings (we are the kings of THE KING) .....

    Revelation 19:21 And the remnant (sons of God) were slain (killed, destroyed) with the sword (TRUTH OF THE WORD) of him that sat upon the horse, which sword (TRUTH) proceeds out of his mouth: and an all the FOWLS were filled with their (the remnants) flesh.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Jesse, MAY CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Your question was: When we are gathered one by one where do we go.

    It's not as much a question of where do we go: BUT who do we become.

    I BELIEVE we become sons of God when we depart this body of earthly flesh.

    Matthew 24:40

    I BELIEVE the one taken becomes a son of God and the one left stays on earth confined to death and the grave, awaiting the second resurrection.

    Luke 17:37

    I BELIEVE the battle of Armageddon has been going on for 2000 years. It's the battle of worldly flesh against Spirit. Your fleshly mind has to be DESTROYED. The eagles (vultures) eat flesh. I BELIEVE it's happening now, you just can not see it because it is a spiritual battle. I BELIEVE Revelation 19; along with many other scriptures, describes this DESTRUCTION of the flesh as a necessity before the the marriage of the bride (can't be seen). Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the kingdom of God.

    Christ said my words are SPIRIT; the words being fulfilled, can't been seen.

    Hebrews 12:18 For we ARE NOT COME unto the mount that can be TOUCHED ....

    Hebrews 12:22 But you are come unto mount Sion (can't be touched or seen) (the battle for the kingdom can't be touched or seen), and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem (can't be touched of seen), and to an innumerable company of angels,

    Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to spirits of JUST men made PERFECT (mature).

    If you have come into full maturity (being made perfect) then you are EXACTLY like the SEED you came from.

    Luke 8:11 The parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of God.

    You are a SON OF GOD. (but never with the glory of the firstborn, JESUS)
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Lex,

    In Luke 8:4-8, Jesus gives the Parable of the Sower. He gives the parable and in verse 9, His disciples come to him looking for an explanation. You see, He says the one who has ears to hear, let him hear. So they come! This is how Jesus is going to minister now. He's going to speak publicly in parables. If somebody has a heart, or an ear to hear, they are going to come and ask Him what does it mean? I think that is very significant!

    As the Lord does minister to the general public all at once, but His serious ministry is really giving the word and drawing people to find out what the word says. It's not enough just to sit and listen. He's going to tell us that. So he says the one who has ears to hear let him hear.

    But notice that there are 4 types of soil. The soil represents 4 different heart conditions. In this parable, there is only one out of the four that represents salvation, and that is the number 4 soil, the seed that fell on good ground. That is the only one that actually produced fruit.

    The other three types of soil (Heart conditions) represent those who receive the same seed, but they either reject it immediately because of the hardness of their heart, they initially receive it with joy but they have no root and therefore will never produce fruit (No salvation). And then you have seed that falls among thorns, and they go forth and the cares (MERIMA) of the world choke them out and they bring no fruit to perfection. There's no salvation there because bringing fruit to perfection is salvation.

    So everyone who hears the word will fall into one of these four categories. But only one of the four refers to salvation.
  • Lex - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Here are some scriptures I looked up that indicate that believers can fall from grace, depart from the faith, or apostatize. Once again I do not know everything and if I am wrong I appreciate insight and discussion.

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8
  • Sandra Love on Luke 8 - 3 years ago
    Who gave Jesus the cloak that the Roman soldiers cast lots for? Did Jesus mother make it for him? Or was it given to Jesus by the soldiers who flagged him?
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    I BELIEVE, Christ is the BOOK OF LIFE just as he is the tree of life, the lamb of God, etc. If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU, then at that point you are in the Book of Life and being made ONE IN CHRIST you become a book of life, ALSO.

    Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of GOD.

    If you take a SEED and plant it; the part that emerges looks nothing like the SEED that was planted.

    But at MATURITY when it is HARVESTED and put in the grain bin; it is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted. We have the SEED; Christ himself, the WORD planted in us. Now we look nothing like the SEED; but at HARVEST (death of this body) we will be put in the grain bin (Christ body, immortality) and we will be like him; we become SEED to be planted, ALSO.

    Matthew 12:37 For by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be justified, and by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be condemned.

    If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU; you are being judged NOW.

    John 12:48 .... the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him ...

    1 Corinthians 11:31 If we would judge ourselves (by the word), we should not be judged.

    1 Corinthians 11:31 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

    1 Peter 4:17 For the TIME IS COME that judgement must begin at the house of God ...

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we...
  • Carleton - 3 years ago
    A testimony by my Brother on Revelation.

    "Why was the book of Revelation written? Obviously it is a part of the divine message of salvation for us, from God. Why is its message veiled? It is a message from Christ, and even durning, His brief stay here upon the earth, He sometimes veiled His message. "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing they might not see and hearing they might not understand" Luke 8:10 .

    I wonder how many Christians are like me. Before helping with this present work, I used to never read Revelation. Oh, the first three and last two chapters, perhaps, but the bulk of it I never bothered with. It seemed just too deep, too hard to get anything out of it. But then why is it in the New Testament? Hopefully, this present work will stimulate many who have that same attitude to search for wisdom contained in the last book of the beloved Bible. It may not be easy; Revelation is meat not milk.

    Read the book, read Revelation, then read again. We do well to heed what the Spirit says, " My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" John 10:27 ."

    He also left this testimony before he died in 2005, "It is helpful to picture each chapter of the Book of Revelation as a room belonging to a house. As each room has its use, the furniture, appliances, and utilities are in harmony with that room. When these objects are identified and associated with each room, they become fixed in our memory. We can then remember what objects are in each room (chapter). As we move through the house, we begin to see how different objects, or parts thereof, relate to each other."

    My brother by his understanding as a born again Christian believed by the scriptures, while time in earth remains, a present reign in Jesus Christ.

    :)
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on John 3:13 - 4 years ago
    Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The lake of fire is the same thing; that, in the Old Testament was called the Fire of the Lord. Natural eyes see this as literal fire; but is it?

    Judges 6:20 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, take the flesh and unleavened cakes (represents us) and lay them upon this rock (represents Christ), and pour out the broth And he did so.

    Judges 6:21 Then the angel of the LORD put forth the end of the staff that was in his hand, and touched the flesh and unleavened cakes (US), and there rose up fire from OUT OF THE ROCK (OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE), and consumed the flesh and unleavened cakes (US).

    Zachariah 14:12 ......Their flesh shall consume away while they stand on their feet....

    Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword (is the word of GOD, God is FIRE) of him upon the horse, which sword (WORD) proceeded out of his mouth; and all the fowls were filled with their (own) flesh.

    To understand who the fowls are; we have to go to the parable of the sower of the seed.

    Luke 8:5 A sower went out to so his seed; and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the FOWLS OF THE AIR devoured it.

    Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: THE SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD.

    Luke 8:12 Those by the way side are those that hear, then cometh the devil (fowls or the air)....

    Luke 13:19 It (kingdom of heaven; Christ in you) is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air (devil) lodged therein.

    John 15:5 I am the vine; ye are the branches (where the fowls lodge)...

    Psalms 104:12 By them shall the fowls of the air have their habitation, which sing among the branches.

    Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out DEVILS by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (CHRIST IN YOU) is come unto you.
  • J2row on 2 Chronicles 10 - 4 years ago
    Hello Lyn.

    Read all of Psalm 91 and Jeremiah 29:11. These promises are to all those who put there faith and hope in God.

    Also, the vaccine are not of God. On my local news station, a medical physician stated that there are particles of the corkna virus in the vaccine itself, just like the H1N1 shot for Influenza. The Johnson and Johnson shot had to put on pause due to multiple reports of patients developing blood clots.

    Luke 8:43-44 quotes, "And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched."

    Jesus is the Great Physician, not man!

    There have been reports on the news that one dose of the vaccine is no guarantee an individual may still not contract the virus. There have been multiple reports that they may have administer three phrases of the covid-19 vaccine, meaning that one shot will not be enough, and even after the third trial of shots will still not promise any results from contracting covid. This is complete medical sorcery at it's highest form.

    This verse below talks about the fall of Babulon.

    Revelation 18:23 quotes, "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

    The word sorceress in the Greek comes from the Greek word pharmakea, far-mak-i'-ah; from G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):-sorcery, witchcraft.

    Stongs concordance number G5332 comes from the Greek word pharmakes, far-mak-yoos'; from phrmakon (a drug, i.e. spell-giving potion); a druggist ("pharmacist") or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a magician:-sorcerer.

    The vaccines are medical sorcery! God's advice is not to take it!
  • Chris - In Reply on John 11 - 4 years ago
    That Scripture only speaks of Lazarus arising from death & no one else. And the same would be for Jairus' daughter ( Luke 8:41-56). These are accounts of individual resurrections, as well as others as seen in the Book of Acts but none of these ascended into Heaven as Jesus did after He was dead for three days in the sepulchre.
  • Earl Bowman on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    REVELATION 13:17

    May the Spirit grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

    Revelation 1:1-3 The Revelation of Jesus Christ .....things that must shortly come to pass.....and signified....

    (vs 3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things that are written therein: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND.

    Most will study Revelation and never apply these verses to the truth of the rest of Revelation.

    Signified: the nouns are symbols of something other than there definition as denoted by a dictionary. There definition can be found hidden in other scriptures in God's word.

    Example:

    Luke 8:5 ....and the fowls of the air devoured it.

    Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this...

    Luke 8:12 ....then cometh the DEVIL (fowls of the air)

    Luke 13:19 (A PARABLE) It (kingdom of heaven) is like a grain of mustard seed....and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.

    John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches (where the fowls of the air dwell)....WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING.

    Revelation 2:13 ....Even where Satan's seat is...

    Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVIL'S by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (Christ in you) is come in unto you.

    Revelation 12:7-10 And there was war in heaven (where is the kingdom of heaven; CHRIST IN YOU, heaven is YOU): Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    (vs 8) And prevailed not, neither was THEIR place found anymore in heaven (in you)

    (vs 9) And the great dragon was cast out......

    (vs 10) and I heard a loud voice (Holy Spirit) saying, Now is salvation... strength..and the kingdom....

    Must shortly come to pass: the revealing of Jesus Christ, he is the kingdom of heaven: CHRIST IN YOU has to happen in before your physical body dies.

    The time is at hand: If you were alive 1800 years ago these words were would have declared the kingdom of heaven to you just as they are declaring the kingdom of heaven to the person reading them at the instance.
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 8:3 - 4 years ago
    The women mentioned here, were able to share what they had with Jesus & His disciples, as they were continually moving about in the ministry with no place to call home. So, most likely food would have been prepared for them & for their journey. And maybe they did some repair work to their clothing, or even supplied some newly sewn clothes or night covering for their needs.
  • Laverta Warren on Luke 8:3 - 4 years ago
    Question.... what do it mean "ministered unto

    Him of their substance"?


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