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In the 16th century it appears as "palsy," the form used in the King James Version. This, however, is seldom used at the present day, the Latinized Greek form "paralysis" being more frequently employed, both in modern literature and in colloquial English "Sick of the palsy" is the translation either of the adjective paralutikos or of the participle of the verb paraluomai. The disease is one characterized by extreme loss of the power of motion dependent on some affection either of the motor centers of the brain or of the spinal cord. It is always serious, usually intractable, and generally sudden in onset (1 Macc 9:55 f). Miraculous cures by our Lord are related in general terms, as in Matthew 4:24; Acts 8:7. Aeneas ( Acts 9:33) was probably a paralytic eight years bedridden. Though the Lord addressed the paralytic let down through the roof ( Matthew 9:6; Mark 2:3; Luke 5:18) as "son," it was not necessarily a proof that he was young, and though He prefaces the cure by declaring the forgiveness of sin, we need not infer that the disease was the result of an evil life, although it may have been. Bennett conjectures that the centurion's palsied servant grievously tormented was suffering from progressive paralysis with respiratory spasms (see PAIN). The substantive paralusis is only once used in the Septuagint in Ezekiel 21:10, but here it refers to the loosing of the sword, not to the disease.

Comment by Alexander Macalister

Your quote of scripture in context ( Psalm 65:1-3)

"Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow be performed.

O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come.

Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away."

Let us keep in mind "thou shalt purge them away"

I now refer to Hebrews 1:3 which speaks of the Son's accomplishment:

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

The words "when he had by himself purged our sins" puts Jesus Christ in the place of the 'Elohiym of Psalm 65.

The pharisees attempted to reason this out in Luke 5:21:

"And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?"

Hello Cher,

Looking into your question I found the answer for you. At the bottom of the "trivia quiz" it gives an explanation of the answer. One leaper sought Him out in Luke 5:12 He healed. Then the ten in Luke 17:12 or 17. All the Bibles have the same numbers as I checked. So the answer eleven is correct.

Hope this helps.

God Bless.

Born of God - Born Again

Most people on this website claim to be so-called Christians, but in truth are they followers of Jesus Christ or do they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9)?. Most of them also claim to be so-called 'Born Again', which means 'Born of God', but are they, or is it a form of self-transformation ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15), while in truth they are wearing the wrong garment ( Psalm 6:8; Matthew 7:20-23; 9:16; 22:2-14; Mark 2:21; Luke 5:36)?

For answers to the above questions we invite you to peruse the earlier Comment below.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Dorothy, I'm thinking about your question...and thousands of years ago medicine was super simple. You can look up what are the humors of medicine. It's four colors of fluid that told what a person had. That's how they identified disease. So, no microscopes or labwork. If, you go back and read the Old Testament, about leprosy and how a person was to leave the camp and then be inspected by the Priest, it seems to be that medicine and faith and sin were all together. So, like barbers that cut our hair now, a hundred or so years ago, they were the dentist and did a whole multitude of services. In JOB, when he's stricken, his friends visit and ask what sins did he commit. He kept saying none. But, they said why else would he be stricken with the sufferings he did. In the New Testament, the man that was born blind, and was healed, the disciples asked who had sinned, him or his parents. Jesus said neither, he was born blind so God could be glorified. He was born blind so Jesus would be able to so his healing ability. Like that was the blind man's purpose. So, I'm suggesting, that in the Old Testament if a person was sick, it was believed they had sinned. So, they had to leave the camp for a week until they were clean again. Or, in some cases be unclean till evening, depending on what was done. The Priest was the healer by directing the different sacrifices. If, you were a non-believer you were kicked out of the temple. Which you see examples of in the New Testament. Jesus, had to teach and show a whole new way of thought. That's what is meant by new cloth and old cloth and new wine into old wine bottles. The Leviathan and Behemoth in JOB explained by God, tells how things (sickensses) happen, it's not because of sin as the Jewish Priest seem to teach. Non-believers were kicked out of camp, or killed. Like when Moses came down from Mt Sinai and the people had the golden calf and were worshipping that.

To FRED SCANLAN

Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

CHASTENING

Deut. 8:5

Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

Proverbs 3:11

Isaiah 26:16

1 Cor. 11:32

Hebrews 12:5,6

James 1:12

1 Peter 1:7

Rev. 3:15-21

AFFLICTIONS

Psalms 34:19; 132:1

Isaiah 48:10

Acts 7:10; 20:23

2 Cor. 6:4

Col. 1:24

1 Thess 3:3

Hebrews 12:5-12

Rev. 3:18

SICKNESS AND HEALING

Exodus 15:26

Psalm 6:2

Isaiah 30:26

Jer. 30:17

Eze. 34:16

Hosea 6:1

Mal. 4:2

Matthew 10:8

Mark 2:17

Luke 5:31

James 5:15

1 Peter 2:24

Rev. 22:2

RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



2 Chr. 16:12,13

Job 13:4

Psalms 34:19; 108:12

Isaiah 30:1-3

Jer. 17:5-7,14

Hosea 5:13

Mark 5:25-29

Luke 8:43

MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

Job 5:18; 23:10

Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

Isaiah 48:10

Jer. 31:18

Hosea 5:15; 6:1

Romans 8:17

2 Cor. 4:17

Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

Rev. 3:19

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

On 'BORN OF GOD' - 'BORN AGAIN

Most people on this website claim to be so-called Christians, but in truth are they followers of Jesus Christ or do they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9)?. Most of them also claim to be so-called 'Born Again', which means 'Born of God', but are they, or is it a form of self-transformation ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15), while in truth they are wearing the wrong garment ( Psalm 6:8; Matthew 7:20-23; 9:16; 22:2-14; Mark 2:21; Luke 5:36)?

For answers to the above questions we invite you to peruse the earlier Comment below.

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

No. One or two unbeliever doctors doesn't condemn the whole profession.

I like 700 club when I have coffee in the morning. (I don't have cable or streaming)

I've seen many brave doctors get on there and testify that after a patient was prayed for in the room, before surgery, they had great success! Some had tumors that just weren't there anymore!

I would probably tell them not to mind the angels in the corner watching over my operation :D I'm most inclined to do serious warfare for aches and pains my doc says: it's just part of aging. Grrrr.

Everybody lose 10 lbs and walk 30 minutes after eating your oatmeal at breakfast. It will make your cholesterol normal. I just walk and pray...remind myself that Jesus walked everywhere. :). I don't know why, but when I sing, bringing in the sheaves, it makes me think of tamales.

is there anywhere n the bible speak that the doctors are for non believers or people of less faith

Mark 6:12

And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

Luke 3:3

And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

Luke 3:8

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Luke 5:32

I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 10:13

Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Luke 11:32

The men of Nineveh shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. (Jesus)

Luke 13:3

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luke 13:5

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luke 15:7

I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Luke 15:10

Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

Luke 16:30

And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

Acts 2:38

"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

Pray this prayer with sincerity of heart

"Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life through the gift of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."

The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.

Read John 3 in your Bible, or get a Bible at goodwill.

Go to: 1 John 1:9 (back of the Bible) to confess any new things or thoughts you sense needs to be confessed.

Keep coming back here :)

When the formerly blind man gave his testimony, he defended Jesus against the Pharisees who were denouncing Jesus as a sinner. In verse 31 he spoke the conventional wisdom "God heareth not sinners" to demonstrate that if Jesus was a fraud, he could not have performed a work that only God could do when he gave him the gift of sight.

As for us, truly sinners, we have a new and living way ( Hebrews 10) to approach God. This by the precious blood shed by the sinless Son of God Jesus Christ on the cross. See also 1 John chapter 1.

Jesus came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance ( Luke 5:32).

Isaiah 53:5

"But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.". ...." Tattoos yea some more than others"

Tattoo's Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

what dose the bible say about tattoo's and body art?

Hi Benji, have you read James 2? It says faith without works is dead (17), and even demons believe and have faith (19), so is satan and his demons going to heaven then? Also, if faith was all that is needed for salvation, why did Jesus say otherwise? Jesus said Luke 5:32 He called sinners to repentance. Do you claim that repentance isn't necessary? If so, are we to believe you over Jesus himself? This is reinforced in other scripture too: 1 John 1:9 (says to confess), and Acts 2:38. So, I'm interested in your interpretation of these other powerful verses and why you feel repentance and confession isn't needed to become a Christian? Link

Isaiah 59:2 - God does not hear ONLY the prayers of the wicked. Luke 5:32 and Rev 3:19 - The repentive heart of the sinner, the one whom falls short, the LORD will hear. Phillipians 4:6 - Be careful for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving, let your requests be known unto God.

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But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts? You don't have to say anything, He know your thoughts.

Jesus saw the faith of the men who brought the paralyzed man right in front of Him. They're true believers of Jesus as they overcome all obstacles just to bring their friend to Him. A person who truly believes in Jesus will bring his friends, family, or anyone right in front of Him. It takes a genuine faith of a true believer for others to be saved, to be forgiven, to be healed. Jesus knew exactly how to deal the case of the paralyzed man. Sin is the real cause of any kind of sickness and disease. The real miracle is having a restored relationship with God.

old testament, new testament.

The new wine is the Gospel that Christ has brought to us. The wine skins are the forms of his parables that contain the wine. The old wine skins are the forms of Judaism and the wine it contains is old and well matured. Judaism cannot contain the new wine of the Gospel. But Jesus is not about to disparage Judaism so he says most connoisseurs of wine like the old wine best.

The whole 2nd half of this chapter is on being clean and how when you choose to follow Christ you should not evil in your life, like sinful strongholds. Verse 38 explains that new things need to be in a new container. Same for your life, when you commit to following Jesus you need to give up the corruption and sinful habits and be fully renewed and committed to Jesus. Some people may need to give up certain friends, jobs, or other temptations. Matthew 5:30

Jesus wants ALL OF HIS CHILDREN to obey and trust Him. Jesus knows everything and nothing catches Him by surprise. They fished all night and caught nothing but when Jesus spoke things changed. In HIS presence we all can expect things to change for our good. Just obey HIS WORDS.

Im concerned about verses 36 and 37 , Im struggling with what it means can some explain it to me please.

There were two that hang on a cross with Jesus, the one on the right confessed and asked to be remembered, Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise. He wasn't baptized. Luke 5:24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, he said unto the sick of the palsy, I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

And he spake also a parable unto them No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. Jesus is saying that you can t mix the laws of Moses with the new teaching from him. I only view the Old Testament as a history lesson. I don t mix it with the New.

We can forgive offenses, only God redeems man from his sin nature. No priest, pastor, or preacher can do it either. Sin is eternal separation from God, make sure you are forgiven by Him only but strive to live in harmony with everyone...

Peter launching out, advise of Jesus. Caught his biggest draught. Only to be told by Jesus, that he will be catching Men instead. Peter just hit the Jackpot, and now he has to change Carreers. Thank God for his obedience to the commands of Jesus. Obedience is better than Sacrifice. When you think of Pentecost. Three thousand Souls were saved. Jesus knew what He could accomplish through Peter.

Our Lord came to fulfill the prophecy of the book of Esaias. The Jewish leaders were full of hypocrisy because of their own traditions. They refused the Messiah, therefore the Lord went and invited others like the gentiles to be saved. He walked among his own yet he was ignored. The parable of the old cloth and wine bottles makes reference of this, Luke 5, Vs36-38. He says preach to all nations.

Verse 13~Jesus had such great compassion that he touched the leper and let him know that he wanted to heal him. Jesus did not have to touch the leper but he wanted to show how much he cared.