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  • Why Be Baptised - In Reply - 5 years ago
    To be saved, we must believe that Jesus is Lord and believe that He died for our sins. This confession acknowledges before God that we are unable to attain righteousness on our own and that we accept His plan for our lives.

    "...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved..." Acts 16:31

    "Yet to all who receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." John 1:12

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38

    "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32

    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    There's a link on the red page: "Become A Christian", that explains the whole process.

    For me: Jesus submitted to be baptized in water by John the Baptist. He was fulfilling a prophesy.

    Baptism is simply us following Jesus as his disciple in a simple act of obedience.

    It never occurred to me to dispute water baptism. It truly was desiring to leave my old life and rise up in the new life.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Brother David, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The scriptures and meaning behind those scriptures I quoted to you are in DIRECT OPPOSITION to there being a LITERAL HELL.

    So EACH has to be reconciled to each other through scripture.

    Scripture says those in the first resurrection (resurrected with Christ) will not see death but will be instantly in the presence of Christ, in Spirit, with a glorified body.

    Scripture says those in the second resurrection will be raise back in their sinful flesh and cast alive into the lake of fire.

    If the lake of fire is LITERAL FIRE those thrown into it alive will LITERAL DIE within seconds. Therefore there would be no nations to rule and judge in the ages to come. This doesn't reconcile our two different scriptures.

    If the lake of fire represents the judgement IN CHRIST who is a consuming FIRE, then the two scriptures reconcile with each other.

    Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of Host, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory (priest) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.

    Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purge the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst (CHRIST IN YOU) thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.

    Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not delivery themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to set before it.

    This is also spiritual fire from the fact you can't warm yourself from it. The ones in the first resurrection also have to go through this fire.

    Mark 4:49 And everyone shall be salted with FIRE.

    Matthew 3:11 ....he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost and FIRE.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    God divides eternity into different AGES. God CAUSES certain things to happen in those AGES.

    In the Previous AGE; the AGE of THE LAW and Prophets. God caused THE ONES HE APPOINTED to leave a written record of the AGE TO FOLLOW.

    It was written that in the AGE TO COME God would APPOINT (call out) a FEW to be PRIEST in his KINGDOM.

    This is what we see now. Most want be called now; BUT there are more AGES to come. Christ and his priest will judge the world and the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    God has a PLAN:

    ALL WILL OBEY AND WORSHIP GOD.

    Isaiah 32:1 Behold, a king shall rule in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.

    Psalms 94:15 But judgement shall TURN INTO RIGHTEOUSNESS ....

    Proverbs 16:6 By MERCY and TRUTH iniquity is PURGED ...

    Psalms 85:10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

    Psalms 22:29 And they that be fat upon the earth shall eat and worship (first resurrection): and they that go down to the dust (second resurrection) SHALL BOW BEFORE HIM: and none can keep alive his own soul.

    Psalms 22:30 A seed (priest) shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation (age).

    Psalms 22:31 They (priest) shall come (at the second resurrection), and shall declare his righteousness to a people (at the second resurrection) that SHALL BE BORN (AGAIN) that he hath done this.

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth MY WORKS unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

    Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessel of a potter shall they be broken to shivers, even as I received of my Father.

    Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

    This is what the parable of Lazarus and the rich man is about.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Brother david, may christ in us grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

    you are saved!

    i am using god's words showing brothers and sisters that all of salvation is of god. man plays no part in salvation. we have been deceived.

    at each mans appointed time (by god). god will bring about the circumstances to cause that man to respond to god.

    man does't believe god does this. they believe it is their choice.

    paul was on his way to kill more of god's church. he believed he was doing god's work.

    in one blinding moment god caused saul to become paul.

    ephesians 2:10 for we are his workmanship .....

    ephesians 1:11 .....being predestined according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will.

    philippians 1:29 for unto us it is given in the behalf of christ, not only to believe on him, but to also suffer for him.

    philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having our own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of christ, the righteousness of god by faith (of christ).

    romans 2:4 ......not knowing that the goodness of god leadeth thee to repentance.

    all is of god. god appoints at time, gives man his faith to causes man to believe and causes man to repent.

    i give my glory to no one.

    i will bring down the high and lofty one.

    you died on the cross with christ. he is the life you now have and live by.

    thank god for the works of christ.
  • David - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Thank you Earl for your patience with me. I would really appreciate it, if you will tell me how to be saved according to your look at the Scripture.

    I look forward to our further discussion through this forum.

    Have a good evening. May the Lord bless you and your family.
  • Alex - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Amen Bro. Earl that scripture comes to mind that says The spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made US free from the law of Sin and Death. Sometimes we get bit but if we behold the lamb of God our bronze Serpent, our snake bite ( Sin ) is not fatal. No condemnation to them in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit . If i do something that I do not consent unto , its not I that does it but sin that dwells in my members ( the Tare ) Satan. We are involved in a warfare but the wheat which is the H.G. is gonna win. With my mind i serve the law of God but with my Flesh the law of sin . That manchild which is the H.G. THE ( WHEAT ) IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS GODS, BATTLE AX. The Child of Promise . Any thing not of faith is gonna be destroyed . The wheat was the result of his seed the word sown in mans hearts initiating a birth of CHRIST IN US. Mans fruit unto God via his seed the living word . Thats y he aways refered to himself as the SON OF MAN, HE IS OUR FRUIT UNTO God as Paul said in Romans 7 v 4 ok lemme go. Our 1st born our only son as Zech. said.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Man WANT BELIEVE what GOD says UNTIL God causes them to BELIEVE. ALL is of God.

    There is nowhere in scripture that says if a name is there it's not a parable.

    There is more than one scripture that says that Christ spake not to the people BUT IN PARABLES.

    Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitudes in parables; and WITHOUT a parable SPAKE HE NOT unto him.

    Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, unto you it is GIVEN to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, it is not GIVEN.

    You said not everyone will choose to be saved.

    The fact is no one chooses to be saved.

    God SAYS I CHOOSE YOU , you don't choose me.

    If I be lifted up I WILL DRAW ALL MEN to me.

    Man thinks he is a co-partner in his salvation, when in fact every part of man's salvation IS OF GOD.

    Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and Holy place, with him ALSO that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the spirit of the contrite ones.

    Thanks be to Christ for HIS WORKS!
  • David - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Hi Earl,

    Thanks for joining in on the discussion. The basic truth I was stating is the fact that not everyone in the "universe" is a Christian. There is no Scriptural proof that EVERYONE is saved forevermore.

    Everyone has an opportunity to receive Christ as their Savior. Unfortunately, many will choose not too.

    As you so aptly put from Ephesians 1:10 He will gather all things "in Christ" "in Him." However God always explains what He means. In v. 11-13, "that we should be to the praise of His glory, who first TRUSTED in Christ. In whom ye also TRUSTED, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. In whom also AFTER that ye BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise Eph 4:30 tells us "whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."

    The story referenced in Luke 16: 19- 31 is not a parable. All parables given by our Lord Jesus Christ gave no names of the characters in the story. The story given in Luke 16:19-31 identifies one of the characters by name - Lazarus. This is a true story given by our Lord Jesus Christ. The basic theme here is that there is an actual heaven and hell. The rich man is in hell and not in the grave. They are not the same place.

    It is hell because in v.24 the rich man said, "for I am tormented in this flame." There are no flames in the grave. He was asking for water to quench his thirst and cool him from the flames.

    The rich man can not receive the LIVING WATER because the salvation of Christ must be received in this life time, never in the life here after.

    The rich man knew this fact because of his request to Father Abraham to send someone to his brothers who were still alive. v. 27, 28.



    Lazarus is now in Heaven; he was in Abraham's Bosum, before Christ resurrection.

    Who are the saints to judge if everyone is saved?

    Thanks for the time and discussion in His Name.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You referenced:

    2 Peter 1:20 This verse says no one verse in and of itself give the complete answer. Other verses have to bear witness to know TRUTH. No scriptures can contradict each other. ALL have to bear witness of each other in TRUTH.

    Luke 16:22-24

    You said this verse and others shows that even though God DESIRES all men to be save they want be saved.

    THANK GOD, he doesn't leave his DESIRES up to man.

    Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULLNESS OF TIMES (more ages than the one we are now in) that he might gather together IN ONE ALL THINGS IN CHRIST, both which are in heaven (first resurrection), and which are on earth (second resurrection), IN HIM.

    Luke 16:22-24 Is a parable referencing the judgements of the two resurrections. Lazarus is in the first resurrection and is IN CHRIST. The rich man is in the GRAVE awaiting the second resurrection. When he is resurrected he will be begging Lazarus to give him the LIVING WATER that was given to him.

    Know ye not THE SAINTS SHALL JUDGE THE WORLD.
  • David on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    In reply to Glenn Gerun on Luke 5:11

    With as much Love and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that is with in me; I ask that you look into Luke 16: 22- 24. Not all will be with Christ forevermore. 2 Peter 3:9 tells us of God's desire for all, but not all will be with Christ forevermore.

    May the Lord bless you in your search of God's righteousness and His wisdom not our own. 2 Peter 1:20

    Revelation 20:11-15 depicts the great white throne of Christ Jesus. Not all will be with Christ forevermore.

    God gave us these passages, as well as the one's you gave, to help us all to become "Christians or born again believers" in order that we are able to be with Him forevermore.

    God's desire is that we be with Him forevermore as you brought forth in your discussion. But only through Scripture, His way. 1 Corinthians 15: 1- 4; Romans 10: 9, 10; 1 John 5:10-13

    Pray that this discussion helps everyone on this Forum. God bless you. Love in the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 5 years ago
    Hi Lex,

    To add to what's been said by Chris and Sacha,

    The fact that your discomfort in your present condition is the light that has been there all the while,

    We have to be broken in order to be restored.

    Luke 5:30-32. But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?

    And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

    I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    To often we study salvation scriptures and mercy, grace, we stick to the new testament scriptures to find these topics,

    Sometimes it does us well to view the commandments and scriptures out of the old testament to know the Lord, His Holiness and requirements in order to get a full appreciation of that Grace, We will get a better understanding of why Christ came and had to die on the cross for the sins of the world.

    Feel free to please open up and share with us your doubts and disbeliefs.

    We would love to help!

    God bless you.
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Deuteronomy 13:6 - 5 years ago
    Brother Tito,

    You state: the God you envision..and go on to say that God will forgive everyone even the bad ones, and that the gate to heaven is a Big as the complete works of the human race.

    There is no scripture in the bible that backs what you say. You can envision anything - it doesn't mean it's true.

    Please read the following bible verses spoken by Jesus. These verses are TRUE, as Jesus speaks the words of God!

    Matthew 4:17

    "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

    Luke 5:32

    "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."

    Luke 13:3

    "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

    As Christians we can believe in Jesus and God, but if we don't REPENT FROM SIN.we will PERISH!

    Believe these words from God.

    Matthew 13:41

    "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;"

    Matthew 13:42

    "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

    It's not what WE ENVISION it is what Jesus says.he speaks the WORDS of GOD!

    God Bless
  • Adam - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 5 years ago
    Hello Chris,

    If you agree that your definition of a Christian is different, then what is your definition? What exact criteria makes someone a Christian in your view?

    My criteria is: believe Jesus Christ, repent/confess sin, and be baptized. Matthew 10:32, John 3:16, Luke 5:32, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16. A Christian is a Christ follower, which is an action. It is an ongoing activity and responsibility to follow Jesus and obey Him and strive to live a holy life. It takes great effort to do this avoid sin. Look at Paul's struggle in Romans 7. John 14:15. Romans 12:2, James 2:26, John 8:11.

    The gentleman I previously spoke about did all the above and is a Christian, but you said he wasn't. Why not? In your view is a Christian not a Christian if he sins just once, or twice, or does it depend on the sin?

    And Jesus's followers were indeed Christians. A literal Christ follower is as true to being a Christian as you can possibly get. They literally followed Him around all day, listened to His teachings, believed Him, tried to emulate Him. Judas and Peter both denied and betrayed Him as Christians, because they had freewill to do so, just like Satan had freewill in heaven to do what he did, and just like so many Christians do today, by leaving, denying the faith, committing sin.

    What is most sad is this Christian I referred to living in sin right now is doing so because of messages he's been told like you're telling. He's been brainwashed into believing he is already saved and he can now do whatever he wants- that it's impossible to lose his salvation. And now he's enjoying sin and doing all kinds of evil, because he was told he's saved and in the book of life. Christians who think they can get by with committing unlimited sin are completely ignoring what Jesus said. ( John 14:15). That's like slapping Jesus in the face. Romans 14:13. We are to not cause others to stumble.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 5 years ago
    Brother Dan, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk OLD WINE straightway desireth NEW (wine): for he saith, THE OLD IS BETTER.

    John 2:1 And THE THIRD DAY (represents Christ resurrection) there was a MARRIAGE IN CANA OF GALILEE.....(represents New Jerusalem)

    John 2:2 And BOTH Jesus was called, and his disciples, TO THE MARRIAGE.

    John 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, THEY HAVE NO WINE.

    John 2:9 .... and the governor (God the Spirit) of the feast called (CHRIST) the bridegroom,

    John 2:10 And saith unto him....but thou has kept the good wine until NOW.

    The old (wine: laws written in tablets of natural stone) were replaced by new (wine) laws written in the heart.

    Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    Matthew 22:38 This is the first and GREATEST COMMANDMENT.

    Matthew 22:39 And the SECOND is like unto it, thou shall LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.

    Matthew 22:40 ON these TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG all the law and prophets.

    Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart will I GIVE you, and a new spirit will I put in you....

    Ezekie 36:27 ....and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes....
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Luke 5:11 - 5 years ago
    Glenn, may the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Death is a judgement of God.

    Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death.......
  • Glenn Gerun - In Reply on Luke 5:11 - 5 years ago
    God did not make death, proof by Jesus stated "before the world was", Saint John 17:3-5, proof by His resurrection-ascension into heaven, Saint Luke 24:51-53, eye witnessed, 1 Corinthians 15:6, is clear proof of the Holy source of life & everyone's salvation forevermore.
  • Loral - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    The Book of Revelation makes several points about the Mark of the Beast. It is not something you can take accidentally.

    Revelation 13

    v. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    v. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    v. 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    v. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six

    1. He causeth all to receive the mark in their right hand or forehead

    2. No one can buy or sell without the name of the beast or the number of his name.

    3. His number is 666

    4. People will be killed who will not take it
  • Glenn Gerun on Luke 5:11 - 5 years ago
    Everyone & all the universe is Christian, proof by Jesus said "before the world was", Saint John 17:3-5, proof by His resurrection-ascension into heaven, eye witnessed, Saint Luke 24:51-53, is clear proof of the Holy source of life & everyone's salvation forevermore.

    GOD did not make death, only "Love thy neighbor as thyself, 10 Commandments "Moses wrote of me" Saint John 5:46, & the Lord's Prayer, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven", proof by resurrected-ascent into heaven Son Jesus to live forever, eye witnessed, Saint Luke 24:51-53, is the same for "born again" Christians, Saint John 3:3-9.
  • Sandy Mendoza on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    What does Luke 5 tell about?
  • Carleton - In Reply on Matthew 3 - 5 years ago
    In Luke 5:32 Jesus calls the sinner to himself. The Lord can put his hand over our heads as a covering and allow us to share in his righteousness.

    :)
  • Becoming A Christian - In Reply on Matthew 3 - 5 years ago
    There's a link on the red link page. This is from item 3.

    Respond: Believe, Repent, Confess, Accept Jesus as Lord and Savior

    To be saved, we must believe that Jesus is Lord and believe that He died for our sins. This confession acknowledges before God that we are unable to attain righteousness on our own and that we accept His plan for our lives.

    "...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved..." Acts 16:31

    "Yet to all who receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." John 1:12

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be BAPTIZED every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38

    "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32

    "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

    Hope this helps :)
  • Janet on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Do animals have a soul ? Please provide scriptural reference . Thank you
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    When I was a five year old boy, Pastor Rouse one evening, did not do an altar call.

    After we got home, I asked my parents why Pastor Rouse didn't ask people who wanted to accept Jesus as their Savior to come forward. They, very wisely, asked me more questions about my question and that night I put my trust in Jesus.

    I knew I was a bad boy and I didn't want to be like that. I knew that Jesus died for me. I'm not at all sure what specific Scripture verses I was aware of. By the age of 5, I had memorized Psalm 1, Psalm 23 and John 3:16 and probably knew even more by osmosis. But with that limited knowledge, I knew that Jesus was The One I needed to trust. God had been working on my heart for years.

    Since that day, I have reaffirmed admission of my utter sinfulness and my trust in Jesus' death, burial and resurrection as the only way.

    Here's another recollection. We moved out of the city when I was 5. I can vividly remember things in the city house. I can recall my parents talking to another couple, at the dining room table in the city house, about "Manny", who was a "hyper-calvinist." Things like that stuck.
  • Fred Scanlan - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Dividing and conquering takes time. Satan is allowed only enough of it according to mans faithfulness! If man is faithful and true toward God, He is faithful and just to forgive! Seeking signs is a sin! Why God gave us revelation is what will be the end of man and His sin. We will never know that day, neither do the angels in heaven!
  • Understanding the Book of Revelation - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    I literally believe what is written in the Book of Revelation. To put a 2021 spin on it, is misleading to people. There's much to read in chapters 13-16. God gives a blessing every time a person reads Revelation.

    Revelation 19:20

    And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, AND THEM that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    Revelation 13:17

    And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Revelation 14:9

    And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    Revelation 14:11

    And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

    Revelation 16:2

    And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

    Revelation 20:4

    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    Mishael: I asked the Holy Spirit if people can ACCIDENTALLY get the Mark of the Beast? He said NO. People will get it willingly, in order to eat, live & take care of their families.

    The Marked person has no more chance to recant and be saved. Chopping off the hand will not remove the death sentence of getting the Mark.

    This is now. Roman history is not helpful really.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Gloria Rhine on Luke 5

    How do I know not to fall into the mark of the beast 666, how and what do I look for so I don't take it?

    Revelation 3:10 (KJV) 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    What is this great trial that is coming on the world? Jesus is saying, I will keep you that you shall not collapse under the trials which will prove a severe temptation to many when they will take the mark of the beast. When the beast and false prophet show up, most will worship the dragon which will be the hour of temptation and most will take the mark. This fleshly body is not what we are to save, because it is mortal, and "it is appointed unto men once to die".

    The mark of the beast is said to be diverse things, a literal mark, a computer chip, symbols, and more. It may be like the Decian persecution in 250 AD. The decree ordered that sacrifices be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate, it was a signed and witnessed certificate, issued to that effect, except for Jews, who were exempted. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods and the well-being of the Emperor. Nevertheless, a great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies, and others went into hiding.

    This picture language appears to identify those who had given either mental assent or extended the right hand of fellowship to this evil conglomerate power. These compromisers thus were able to prosper economically. By way of contrast, those who received not the mark were unable to buy or sell, hence suffered hardship, illustrated in the form of economic deprivation.

    Clear all the preconceived ideas before you study Pray and let the Holy Spirit guide you. Hope this helps, Ron
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Gloria Rhine on Luke 5

    How do I know not to fall into the mark of the beast 666, how and what do I look for so I don't take it?

    Revelation 3:10 (KJV) 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    What is this great trial that is coming on the world? Jesus is saying, I will keep you that you shall not collapse under the trials which will prove a severe temptation to many when they will take the mark of the beast. When the beast and false prophet show up, most will worship the dragon which will be the hour of temptation and most will take the mark. This fleshly body is not what we are to save, because it is mortal, and "it is appointed unto men once to die".

    The mark of the beast is said to be diverse things, a literal mark, a computer chip, symbols, and more. It may be like the Decian persecution in 250 AD. The decree ordered that sacrifices be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate, it was a signed and witnessed certificate, issued to that effect, except for Jews, who were exempted. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods and the well-being of the Emperor. Nevertheless, a great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies, and others went into hiding.

    This picture language appears to identify those who had given either mental assent or extended the right hand of fellowship to this evil conglomerate power. These compromisers thus were able to prosper economically. By way of contrast, those who received not the mark were unable to buy or sell, hence suffered hardship, illustrated in the form of economic deprivation.

    Clear all the preconceived ideas before you study Pray and let the Holy Spirit guide you. Hope this helps, Ron
  • How to Study End Times in the Bible - In Reply on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    Use the search box where you first enter this website. Type in the box, the words you want to look up or read at length by yourself.

    Like: Mark of the Beast, Antichrist, False Prophet, end of days, Last days,Falling Away. If your Bible has center of each page references to other passages, you can expand your study reading those too. Matthew 24 has many references to the End Times, and what will be happening on our planet.

    A lot of people (especially the older crowd) who scorn Oral Roberts; have never listened to his teaching of the Book of Revelation on YouTube.

    We as Christians should never disparage on a Brother (or sister), in Christ. His teaching is just that: teaching. I highly recommend it. I pray it will kindle your interest in understanding what is happening now. He teaches Matthew 24 also.

    The Mark of the Beast, is done to the forehead or the hand. It's a conscious decision.

    Flu shots, immunizations or vaccines are Not given in the hand or head. When you get a shot, ask God to bless it, sanctify it and make it Holy for you to receive. Amen.

    Mishael
  • Gloria Rhine on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    How do I know not to fall into the mark of the beast 666, how and what do I look for so I don't take it?
  • Jimmie D Granville on Luke 5 - 5 years ago
    In verse 3 when Jesus sat down and taught, what did he teach about?


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