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  • Ajjos - In Reply on Romans 6:11 - 4 years ago
    Gen 9:25 puts the curse on Canaan, Ham's Son. Thus Canaan descendants the "Canaanites" which settled in Canaan were the ones cursed by Noah. In fact when the Israelites moved into the promise land they were to remove the Canaanites due to their sexual depravity. This idea of Ham being "cursed" was one of the main reasons slavery was accepted by most Christian religions for centuries and another example of how some have used the Bible to oppressed various races down to this day.

    Gen 9:24 does say Noah cursed his youngest son which would be Ham however lets reason on that statement. Is it unusual for a grandparent to consider his grandson as his son? An extension of his loins?

    Gen 48:5,6 Records Jacob adopting Joseph's two sons Epharim and Manasseh saying they will become mine, but children after them will be yours...

    Even Adam was called a son of God since it was through him that he came into existence. Luke 3:38

    Even today a father or mother can claim their son-in-law as their son or their daughter-in-law as their daughter.
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 4 years ago
    You're right Brandon, I could do everything possible for my son to be like me in character, spiritual awareness & direction in life & even if I succeeded, he would still always be my son, a separate human being in his own right.

    But one cannot hold to such thinking of God, compelling Him to replicate or be confined to the limitations & humanness of our minds & ways. He is the One from Whom it was written that He could create out of stones, children unto Abraham ( Luke 3:8). If we think in human terms, then yes, Jesus is only a (created) Son of God. If we abide by the Scriptures, then Jesus Who is the Image of the Invisible God, is more than a 'spittin image' of the Father - He has the very Image, Character, Essence of God's Holiness & Being, of the Father, having proceeded from Him. And that is why John 1:1-14 becomes a very difficult passage for non-trinitarians, because they can never give another explanation to it, as its declaration is abundantly clear: the Word that came from God became flesh. And apart from Jesus, I don't think that those verses could apply to any other.
  • Marie - In Reply on Luke 3:23 - 4 years ago
    Hi Modesto Olivio. I think the statement in Luke 3:23 regarding the parentage and approximate age of Jesus revolves around the issue of Mary's pregnancy as a virgin before her marriage to Joseph. There is the marriage date recorded in the temple, the date of legal parentage as recorded in the registry in the temple, and the revelation of Jesus at the time of His ministry at around the age of 30 that He was the Son of God. I'm speculating now that the Temple had registered the date of the marriage of Joseph and Mary and less than 9 months later Jesus was born. The numbers don't add up, so I think that's why the parentage and age issue are thus. The registry (genealogy) was destroyed 70 AD. We are talking about Joseph legally being His (adoptive) father (and Joseph was of Davidic lineage) to fulfill legal requirements until Christ's ministry was established.
  • Bill - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Seek the Lord in prayer and the reading of the gospels . My impression is you where not converted . Inviting Jesus in to me is wrong . Real repentance and faith are quite different. And require a whole heart and not easily done . Inviting Jesus in is way to easy in my understanding, although many think this is ok . I'm not into alter calls either , way to easy as well . It's a complete change of life from sin to following God through Jesus .
  • Stuart T Lyons on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    please pray for me,because i do believe that jesus died for my sins(personally) and have invited him in years ago but i cannot tell if i have working faith,and this is not good feeling like this,thank you
  • Albert Taylor - In Reply on Luke 17 - 4 years ago
    I must commend you for ending your prayer in the Name of Jesus. As you well know, Jesus is the Name of the Savior. Colossians 3:17 says"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." So by praying in the Name of Jesus, you are praying to God. Salvation came only by Jesus ( Acts 4:12; Matthew 1:21; John 17:6; Luke 3:31; John 1:14) So when you pray in the name of Jesus, you are praying to God. All of the fullness of God is in Jesus( Colossians 1:19). We are saved through Jesus--He died on the Cross and provided the means of escape for the whole world. The demons tremble at the name of Jesus( James 2:19) Again, I commend you for praying in Jesus' Name and ending your prayer in Jesus' Name. There is no other name given to us whereby we must be saved. Jesus even said that repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name ( Luke 24:47). It is through His name that we are baptized ( Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:38; Acts 3: 19) I am so grateful to find believers who still hold to the Bible. God bless you and may God keep you is my prayer. I hope I provided some insight into Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
  • Modesto Olivo on Luke 3:23 - 4 years ago
    It has always fascinated me, since coming to the age of reasoning, that there's even a hint of the possibility of Christ's parentage, ".....at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph....verse 23 of Luke chapter three. Why would the Almighty allow that and for what reason? Please respond. Thank you in advance.
  • Elijah Zmuda on Genesis 6:4 - 4 years ago
    MYSTERY OF THE NEPHILIM REVEALED

    Gen.6:4

    Scriptural Facts:

    1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. ( Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)

    2. There is no evidence from the dead sea scrolls on gen.6:4 that the Nephilim were the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men.

    3. The Nephilim were present before and after the sons of God and daughters of man had intercourse.

    4. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. ( Job 1:6; 2:1), ( Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)

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    Knowing these facts; we can rule out that the sons of God are angels in gen 6:4 because they procreate.

    Therefore, they must be men that had God's favor(Seth's lineage). The daughters of man would be women without God's favor(Cain's lineage). Their offspring would be human.

    What are these Nephilim?

    Well, they can't be the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of man according to the facts stated above; because the nephilim were present when the sons of God lusted the daughters of man. How could the Nephilim be present when the sons of God first had sex with the daughters on man? Wouldn't they need to be born first?

    The interpretation from a root word naphil of Nephilim means fallen ones.

    Look at the similarities of seraphim and cherubim. Now look at Nephilim.

    Seraphim and Cherubim are Holy Angels.

    Doesn't it make since that the Nephilim would be Fallen angels?

    The men of renown is another way of referring to famous biblical characters like Adam, seth, Enoch, and Noah.

    How did the spies from moses know what the Nephilim looked like or were?

    Stories told from generation to generation about them being frightening.

    When the spies saw giant men, they were frightened and thought they were the Nephilim.

    The Nephilim most likely tempted the sons of God and daughters of man.

    The Nephilim were fallen Angels not human. Goliath was a man.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 14 - 4 years ago
    Without dispute, the line of Shem is the one that is constantly referred to in the Bible. Shem was the middle brother, with Japheth being the eldest & Ham, the youngest of Noah's sons. It was through Shem's descendants that Abraham came & from Abraham, the branch of the Hebrews (later Israelites & Israel) & of the Ishmaelites (later Muslims) split. You can see Shem's line in Luke 3:23-38 which leads to our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

    And of course, this line of Shem is most "talked about" since God had called this line of people to be His very own, setting His Love upon them ( Deuteronomy 7:6-8) & through which He would one day bring forth His Son to be the one & only Sacrifice as payment for mankind's sins.
  • Rob - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Thank you Chris , I share with hope of helping others , we all have different experiences.

    I like that old hymn Trust and obey , many classics indeed !
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Your testimony Rob, was heartening to read, showing that in spite of your efforts, it took the blessed work of God's Spirit to make the difference to bring you to the points of acknowledgement , conviction & true cleansing. This old hymn immediately came to mind, which I think you may know:

    1

    I know not why God's wondrous grace

    To me He hath made known,

    Nor why, unworthy as I am

    He claimed me for His own.



    Refrain

    But "I know Whom I have believed

    And am persuaded that He is able

    To keep that which I've committed

    Unto Him against that day."

    2

    I know not how this saving faith

    To me He did impart,

    Nor how believing in His word

    Wrought peace within my heart.

    3

    I know not how the Spirit moves,

    Convincing men of sin,

    Revealing Jesus through the Word,

    Creating faith in Him.

    4

    I know not what of good or ill

    May be reserved for me,

    Of weary ways or golden days,

    Before His face I see.

    5

    I know not when my Lord may come,

    At night or noon-day fair,

    Nor if I'll walk the vale with Him,

    Or "meet Him in the air."

    May the joy of your salvation be your ever-present experience.
  • Rob - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Prior to this experience I cleaned up my life seeking to live right by the teaching of the word , I did not know this is repentance in action , just seemed like the right thing to do . But it was not enough . I knew what it meant follow Jesus , total commitment even death if needed to be faithful.

    Death to self the world and evil . The Bible convinced me that I was still without God . As good as I could be I still knew nothing as I should . A very hard lesson to learn . But he changed me , I did not do it .

    Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith . When we look back we see this clearer . At the time I did not see it clearly as now .
  • Rob - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    I remember a time in March 21 1988 , when reading the Bible it was just like Jesus speaking to me as I read , I was reading with great earnest , as I needed an answer .

    John 11. 25 26

    I answered yes to verse 26 .

    Instantly my great burden was gone , and life has been quite new since ,I felt clean and new ....
  • Rob - In Reply on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Luke 18

    The story of the rich young ruler , he had his life in order and Jesus said he lacked 1 thing , then told him what to do , and the young ruler could not . Very good illustration, that few find the way of God through Jesus . But this young ruler had everything good , his life was as far as keeping the law could get him . But he could not follow Jesus , Read the story .
  • Rob on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    Luke chapter 3

    Here we see John the Baptist instructing the people how to repent .

    It's far more than saying we are wrong or sorry , it involves works of repentance.

    You rarely will hear this kind of repentance preached .

    That's what John meant by prepare the way of the Lord . get you life in order .

    Jesus said except you repent you will all like wise perish !

    John was really judgemental on the self righteous people of that time , they lacked the fruit of repentance, etc

    John also said " no man can receive anything except God give it " that puts us at Gods mercy and to obey God and Ask God in faith .

    In the Old Testament God said , I will show my salvation to the one that orders their conversion aright .

    (Way they walk )

    Yes their is more that could be said , but study John the Baptist if you want to learn repentance.
  • Chris - In Reply on Tobit 13:6 - 4 years ago
    Correct, from about 12 yrs of age ( Luke 2:42), there is nothing more written about Jesus until his baptism by John the Baptist ( Luke 3:21,22) at about 30 yrs of age. There may be some extra-biblical sources that claim to have more information on Jesus' 'silent' years, but anything outside the Bible cannot be verified as true & I would pay no heed to them.
  • Fred Scanlan on Luke 3 - 4 years ago
    John the baptist....... Full of the holy spirit. Comes from nowhere , preaching the coming of Christ. How is it they hear him but don't believe? How is it they see a man that is come and is telling them the truth but they do not believe? His voice rings out , Oh generation of Vipers. How is it, this still does not provoke them to see and or hear. How can this one come from nowhere dressed like an animal declare these things of God. You will not see ,nor understand. because you are of the house of Satan. You will not give, nor take no more than you need, you will only see what you want to see. Remember what Jesus says,For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation. The times of visitation my friends are here !
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 6 - 4 years ago
    Sometimes we're given a little more information about those that lived between Adam & Noah, but not a lot which would require volumes more to include details of their lives, their marriages, exploits, religious observances or diversions, etc. The Bible does focus on the generations leading up to the birth of Jesus Christ so one can track His lineage all the way back to Adam: Luke 3:23-38.

    However, post Flood, God's chosen (Israel) came through the line of Shem, Noah's eldest son.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Habakkuk 2 - 4 years ago
    Genesis 1:26-28

    Genesis 2:4

    Genesis 5:3-4

    Luke 3

    Luke 3:38 *

    1 Corinthian 15:45-47
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Thank you for your question. Genesis 1:26-31, Genesis 2:4,

    Genesis 5:3-4,

    Look closely it only mentioned "Seth in his image, likeness of Adam" Luke 3: * Luke 3:38 *

    John 21:25 , Hebrew 11:32 if scripture talks about not being able to contain acts in books or even our own time on this earth; then why would we believe it could?

    It's been pointed out to me that scripture was written to expose the Messiah, Saviour of the world. 1 Corinthian 15:45-47
  • Andy G van den Berg on Colossians 3 - 4 years ago
    Attn: Mike on Baptism

    The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

    The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of god: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned ( Cor. 2:14).

    You cannot just change the word 'born' to 'baptize'. The word of God is not of any private interpretation. The water is the living water (Christ) and unless a person is born of the water and the Spirit , he cannot enter into the kingdom of God ( John 3:5; Isaiah 44:3,4; Matthew 3:11; Titus 3:5).

    We invite you to study what it means to repent ( Acts 26:18) and the baptism of repentance ( Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; Acts 13:24; 19:4), as it means a lot more than what by nature you have been conditioned to believe.

    Water baptism and circumcision was an act of faith but could not save people. Then the next question should be asked: Faith in what?

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
  • Andy G van den Berg on Luke 3:31 - 4 years ago
    Luke 3:3

    The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

    The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

    It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

    For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

    You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

    It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

    LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH
  • Elijah Isaiah Zmuda on Genesis 6 - 4 years ago
    Scriptural Facts-Gen.6:4:

    1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. ( Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)

    2. The Nephilium were present before, at the time, and after the sons of God and daughters of man had ***. They can't be their offspring, because they would have to be born first.

    3. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. ( Job 1:6; 2:1), ( Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)

    * The sons of God are the renown men of old(from seth's lineage)and were tempted by the Nephilium (Fallen angels) to lust the daughters of men(from Cain's lineage).
  • Scriptures That Define the use of Repent - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    Mark 6:12

    And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

    Luke 3:3

    And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

    Luke 3:8

    Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

    Luke 5:32

    I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    Luke 10:13

    Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

    Luke 11:32

    The men of Nineveh shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. (Jesus)

    Luke 13:3

    I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

    Luke 13:5

    I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

    Luke 15:7

    I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

    Luke 15:10

    Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

    Luke 16:30

    And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
  • IwG on Genesis 2 - 4 years ago
    Luke 8:11

    "Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."

    1 Peter 1:23

    "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

    Genesis 1:31

    "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

    Psalms 119:107

    "I am afflicted very much: quicken me, O LORD, according unto thy word."

    Genesis 3:14

    "And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

    Genesis 3:15

    "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    2 Timothy 4:1

    "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;"

    John 6:63

    "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

    John 20:29

    "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

    1Cor 15:45

    And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    John 10:36 Say you of him, whom the Father has sanctified, and sent into the world, You blaspheme; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    Luke 3:38

    "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Wisdom of Solomon 3 - 4 years ago
    Read Job 38 which tells you the Sons of God shouted for joy at the foundation (creation) of the earth.

    Adam did not exist until 6 days after the earth was created. So how can the sons of God be godly men? Adam did not even exist to shout then.

    since when do godly men marry ungodly women and then giants are born to them?

    John 1:14 Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God.

    Luke 3:38 Adam is called a son of God since God created him.

    1 John 3:1 Believers do not become Sons of God till they are born of the Spirit.

    So who was the Father of the angels? would they not be Sons of God also?

    Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

    I know most churches will argue with me and claim Genesis 6 is not referring to angels and I say they are wrong.

    when do believers and unbelievers get married and have giants for kids? Goliath anyone?

    Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God IN HEAVEN. NOT ALL THE ANGELS ARE IN HEAVEN, some were cast out.
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on John 12 - 4 years ago
    I suggest 1st Corinthians chapter 15, Mark 4:26-29, Luke 3:15-17, John 4:34-38, and James 1:17-27.
  • D.J. - In Reply on 2 Samuel 13:20 - 4 years ago
    Alex,

    The legal term for adoption can be found in Luke 3:23. The term "as was supposed" is defined as "as reckoned by law / "to lay down a thing as law" / "to hold by custom, or usage." This is the legal term used for adoption.

    The father of Joseph is Jacob, as can be seen from Matthew 1:16.

    The father of Mary is Heli, as can be seen from Luke 3:23.

    The lineage of Jesus goes from Mary, through David, through Adam, to God Himself.

    The birth of the Savior of the world was promised long before prophecy of David came into light. ( Genesis 3:15). The birth of this One will defeat death itself.
  • Hilda on 1 Peter 1 - 4 years ago
    1 Peter Chapter 1

    Jesus is the mediator between our Heavenly father and humanity 1 Timothy 2:5, 1 peter 1:3

    Adams sin brought a curse upon all humanity. Sin and death or( a separation from God and humanity.) Jesus death was a sacrifice for us all to be reconciled back to the father

    1 Peter 1:18 Romans 5:19

    Jesus was baptized by his cousin John the baptist Luke 3:21,22

    Jesus received the Infilling of the Holy Spirit (Jesus did what was pleasing to his father)

    Jesus human nature was transformed and his divine nature allowed him to be in harmony

    with our heavenly father so that he would to be victorious over the weaknesses of the

    human flesh. 1 peter 1:16

    Our hope is in the victory that Jesus demonstrated to us( Jesus is our example )

    We can be reconciled back to God our father if we submit our minds over to him, just

    as Jesus submitted his mind over to the father

    According to your faith,you can submit your human weaknesses over to our Heavenly Father and Jesus, whose Divine Power is greater than our human weaknesses. 1 peter 1: 21, 23

    You can obtain salvation according to the word of God.
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on Luke 12 - 4 years ago
    If you have put your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and believe that God has raised him from the dead, you are already baptized in the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 3:16; Acts 11:15-17; 1 Corinthians 12:3 and 12:13; 1 John 5:1). All of 1 Corinthians chapter 12 is instructive in the working of the Spirit in Christ's body, the Church.

    In John 14:16-18 and in John chapter 16, Jesus promises the Comforter will be sent to dwell with and in his disciples after he returns to the Father. The mission of the Comforter is to reprove the world of sin, righteousness and judgement. As the Spirit of truth, he guides Jesus' followers in all truth, not promoting himself, but glorifying Jesus Christ and the things of Christ.

    Romans chapter 8 teaches us about walking in the Spirit after we've learned the hard lesson of our weakness in the flesh as found in Romans 7.

    The book of Colossians and 2 Peter chapter 1 are a couple of fine prescriptions for aligning yourself to spiritual living.


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