I am studying in Luke Chapter 14 and would like to share something I've come to realize about God's humbling process. Luke 14:11 says, "For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
This word "abased" is the word humbled in the Greek text. This is quote from Proverbs 3:34 and it is used quite extensively through the entire New Testament. Peter has probably the best presentation of this in 1 Peter 5:5.
Peter quotes Proverbs 3:34 "For whosoever exalts themselves shall be humbled, and whosoever should humble themselves shall be exalted." In the very next verse, 1 Peter 5:6, it says, "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God."
Now, this looks like it is saying we are to humble ourselves, but as I am comparing this with the original language of scripture, the phrase "Humble yourselves" is what is called a Passive Voice, which means the subject (the believer) is not told to do the action, but rather the subject (believer) is to receive the action.
So, it is literally "be humbled," not the believer doing the humbling, but the believer submitting to the humbling that is coming to you. As I look at what the text says, "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God," it is not telling me to humble myself, but to submit myself to God's humbling process.
Peter is saying that God's mighty hand is coming upon us to humble us, that is, bring us low. We are to submit to it!
The cross is an upright stake, hence a cross (the Rom. instrument of crucifixion)
[The "cross" Mark 8:34 is not a symbol for suffering in general. Rather it refers to withstanding persecution (difficult times), by the Lord's power, as He directs the circumstances of life. As Christ's disciples, believers are to hold true - even when attacked by the ungodly.]
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27
The cross is a symbol for Christ followers , used figuratively for the (sacrifice) each believer bears to be a true follower .
Principle 5 What about the infants; children under "age of accountability" and mentally challenged individuals?
There are verses related to David's son that died with Bathsheeba that would seem to indicate that children who die before a certain age we can be confident to meet eventually in heaven. ( 2 Samuel 12:14). Those who are mentally challenged to the point where they don't consciously sin also could be arguably in that camp. I know someone who has attended concerts at our local church that I have run into twice in a month or two that is mentally challenged. He tends to obsessively listen to Christian music and gyrate uncontrollably. This is a good reminder to all of us that we don't always see what's going on in the heart of some people. It would be illogical to disbelieve in such individuals having universal salvation upon an early death and somehow expect that they would be Raptured. Whether making it to heaven AFTER death warrants being Raptured is a bit trickier; however. There are verses about gathering the weaning child in Joel 2:16 certainly invoke a theme like the Rapture in the Holy Convocation. We certainly should of course teach the scriptures faithfully to help rear our kids in the fear and admonition of the Lord.
In light of the above statement; I would say that unlike the hardened hearts of many adults; children still have potential for a large spiritual awakening in terms of numerical response to the Word. That could be something that would signify His imminent return; perhaps with abortions being significantly reduced we will indeed see if Satan has been terminating an army already in heaven of faithful martyrs and if a generation of believers will come into fruition when the children are allowed to live who otherwise would have been slain. This is just a theory; but God will receive praise ( Psalm 8:2).
Principle Six: ANY new believer is qualified for the Rapture. ( Luke 14:24-35). See my next post...
Wes gave a wise answer on Christmas. Exodus 23:8, Deuteronomy 16:19, Ecclesiastes 7:7, may The HOLY Spirit teach us. John 14:26
I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....
We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.
When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.
This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,
Who was the "certain young man" mentioned in Luke 14:51? Why was he differentiated from the other young men? Why did he run away? Is it possible that he is mentioned again in the scriptures?
This reminds us of Gideon when he asked the angel whose side are you on and he said "the Lord's side." ( Joshua 5:13-15). As with anything else the attitudes of the heart are more important than a surface level of the law. Or; in order to do what was expected "obedience is better than sacrifice." ( 1 Samuel 15:22). This is why certain functions were only done by priests. Christ Himself; of course was fully God and fully man; certainly the Creator could do as He wished. Mercy and compassion were used over and over to the obstinate Pharisees who Christ would frequently bother doing miracles on the Sabbath. Luke 14:5 shows that compassion to an animal is a "work" that someone with compassion would do if an animal fell in a pit. ( Proverbs 12:10-12).
The law until the church was established was still in effect; and people were told to do what was required but not the way the Pharisees did as they were full of hypocrisy. ( Matthew 23:23). The law now was summarized by Christ by loving God with all your heart; soul; mind and strength and loving your neighbor as yourself ( Luke 10:27). We are asked now in the N.T. NOT to follow "holy days" and such ( Galatians 4:9-10). Some say there is controversy there; but it is clear that Paul did meet on the first day of the week ( Acts 20:7); and collections were to be prepared that day ( 1 Cor. 16:2). At the very least; the Son of man being lord of the Sabbath trumps any earlier Sabbath laws since we are under a New Covenant as to having to meet Saturdays.
It would appear that Sunday worship was established; although I will not argue that it is to be substituted for what was Saturday worship; or it is wrong any day to gather for corporate worship. The effect of the law certainly doesn't bring a death penalty. However; many laws that did (the clearest being murder) hasn't helped society today with it's lawlessness; clearly.
Once He comes in the Millennium; He will rule with a rod of iron and enforce law.
This section goes from they did not believe (as seen in John 6:64; 8:46 and others) to verse 39 of this chapter which states that they COULD not believe as prophesied in Isaiah 53:1.
Verse 42 serves as a harsh reminder that we can have belief in Christ but we also must CONFESS with our mouths ( Romans 10:9-10) in order to have saving faith. We are reminded here of Luke 16:15 which states that which is honorable among men is an abomination to God.
Here; it was praise of men that was the cause; and being thrown out of the synagogue; not even direct physical persecution.
Verse 48 reminds us of the conviction of the Spirit as mentioned in John 16:8; a few chapters later. Clearly; the whole Godhead works as a unit in tandem in ways mysterious to man.
Verse 40 goes on further to state from Isaiah about God Himself blinding men. Some other verses on that include 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where God Himself sends strong delusion so that they will believe the lie because of the previous verse where they did not LOVE the truth. Also we have Isaiah 66:4 where it says that God will choose their delusions.
All sin stems from self justification; and self love that cannot accept the true state of our souls as fallen man because of Adam and his progeny that makes up natural man. Naked we come into this world and naked we shall go ( Job 1:21); also see Ecclesiastes 5:15. We cannot love anything above God; Jesus uses the word HATE for anything else ( Luke 14:25-26). We see the general sentiment in verse 25 of this chapter. Clearly; Christ Himself showed love in the previous chapter for Lazarus; Mary and Martha as well as John when He said "Behold your mother" to John at the cross so that he could take care of her. ( John 19:26-27).
There were times when they sought Him out when He stated the more important principle that those who followed Him were brothers; sisters; etc. ( Luke 8:21).
The blueprint for being a child of God or not is in John 12.
We are warned by Christ that if an army comes with more men then we have; we have to assess our strength and plan accordingly. ( Luke 14:31). Since Satan is the "god of this world" ( 2 Cor. 4:4) and Christ never disputed with him about being given authority over the Kingdoms of the earth ( Luke 4:6) we only have 3 options. Namely; to either worship Satan; surrender to Him; or operate in the power of the Holy Spirit through Christ who has overcome hell and the grave and who exercises all authority over heaven and earth. ( Matt. 28:18).
The scope of Satan's rulership; therefore is interwoven throughout the world governments; institutions; and hierarchy. It is entangled throughout every false religion of the earth. The imaginations of men are blinded to the Gospel truth; and his desires are always to lead men to their destruction by giving them delusions that they can hold onto their possessions; loved ones; or positions in life forever. God therefore must do a miraculous transformation when one is "Born Again" so that they realize that they were headed for eternal damnation on the wide road until the narrow path was revealed to them. Satan himself can certainly fear Christ and knows that he is defeated; but there is no love for Him. If he can continue to control our lives after salvation and render us ineffective; we stand to lose our rewards and therefore risk an early departure from this life ( 1 Cor. 11:30).
Therefore; the war is won but many battles continue. We can be as Christ trusting God the road He has predestined for us in order to complete the works for us prepared from before creation ( Eph. 2:10). Pain and suffering are all necessary even though none of us can grasp it fully. As long as we are walking in the Spirit Satan cannot affect our soul. If we allow sin in any part of our lives; however God can and does use the enemy to oppress us. He can allow physical affliction as well as we see with Paul (2Cor12:8
In Luke 14:34, When it says salt is good, the word good means useful. In those days, salt was a preservative. You put salt on things rather than refrigeration to keep it from putrefying. But if salt does not contain the proper ingredients, what is it good for?
Verse 35 says "It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."
And I've seen pictures of wagons going through the streets of Jerusalem and salt is alongside of the road where the people just come out and just throw it out in the street.
It is not good for anything. Once salt loses its seasoning and it doesn't serve its purpose, it's no longer effective, or useful. Do you see what Jesus is saying?
He is saying here's the reason why I tell you all of these hard things. Because if your life is so entangled with the cares of this life, to where your life is no longer effective for Christ, we are good for nothing. Now our family might not agree with that. Oh you are good for something. Give me a few minutes and I'll think of something!
You see, we were created by the Creator for His purposes. But if my life gets so entangled with the things of this earthly life, where my life is no longer effective for Christ, where I can no longer say with the apostle Paul that whether I will live or whether I die may Christ be magnified in my body.
If I can no longer say that, I am really good for nothing. There will be nothing eternal, and nothing that represents the truth.
People around me won't see Christ in me, and they won't see my love for Him, my dedication to Him. They won't see my sacrifice and the surrender of my life to Him. They might see the Jesus sticker on my car, but I am "too busy" doing other things to follow him. The salt will be good for nothing, not even to pour on the dung hill.
Thank u Helene, that was good news. Often it is homeless ppl here on the web. My heart are broken for them all. And pray, God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ.
I agree with the way you adressed this topic before. I believe you helped break down the biggest most divisive issue, when there is hypocrisy with abuses & blatant unrepented sins, there is accountability. I believe Jesus clearly taught accountability & old testament usually addressed as within Church / temple & leadership within, also: Isaiah 9:17, Matthew 20:1-19, Luke 20:45-47, Luke 11:39-54, Matthew 23, Isaiah 1:17, Isaiah 1, Isaiah 58, Jeremiah 7:1-17, Jeremiah 22:3, Jeremiah 34:8-12 ._..
I believe you Chris or possibly someone else addressed the question we're they ever really saved?
I address this question as to answer the many outside the church who ask because of injustice etc. This site is for those, I believe most of all.
Faith Knight, I also agree with Adam & Chris this is an issue with disagreement. & hesitation is possibly warning. But, I included scripture covering love, meekness in the way, its addressed. John 15:18,24,25, Luke 21:17, Zechariah 13:6,
Count the cost? Luke 14:26-35,
Said in sincerity of Love, through the fellowship of Faith in Jesus Christ
I believe it's a daily decision effort. Referring to "pick up your cross daily & follow" Jesus, "dying to self", being "born again " we have to go from a symbolic crawling to walking. Luke 9:23, Luke 14:27, Matthew 10:38, John 8:24,
Learn to :
Deuteronomy 17:19, Isaiah 1:17,
Even fruit, isn't automatic, it takes time to grow.
Pruning, is there habits that need to be cut off? Even if it starts growing back, to trim again.
Luke 17:33, John 8:34, Romans 6, Romans 7, Romans 8:2,
Apparently from commentary preparing the outside property and analyzing sufficient resources are available before building a house. This reminds us of Christ admonishing us that people will mock if we build a tower and don't have enough money to complete the work. ( Luke 14:28-30). Clearly; financial planning needs to be sufficient along with resources when undertaking any task; and this takes wisdom.
Hello, I don't think Mishael checks this comment section. l read your question, I will give you my opinion, an example I went through & scriptures I find relevant. Hopefully these are all helpful.
1st if we're personally bothered in our spirit about something it may be the HOLY Spirit telling us it's wrong. Ephesians 4:30, John 14:23-26, 1Corinthians 2:10-16,
2nd if we're doubtful, is that also indication it's wrong? Romans 14:22-23, scripture in context, whole chapter: Romans 14,
3rd, is this were loving GOD, hating your ._.__ comes in? Are we willing to serve GOD over love of family? Luke 14:26,
4th, Luke 14:27, not being a cross you put in your pocket, around your neck or on the wall: Micah 5:12,13, Deuteronomy 18:9-14, Nahum 1:14, Deuteronomy 4:14-20, Deuteronomy 4:23-25, I even have personal conviction about wearing a cross, since I accepted JESUS as my Savior at young age. Something just bothered me inside about it spiritually. Even though some were special "Christian" gifts. & many people wear them.
5th, One day recently, I saw a "Christian" bookstore selling crucifixion nails as jewelry. I cringed. Then I thought if someone was killed, raised again from the grave; would that person eagerly embrace another that had the weapon or thing that tortured & caused the pain & death, hung around their neck? or would they feel multiple emotions triggered by it? I thought of someone wearing a pill, bullet, ect. of a loved one, in resemblance, remembrance.
Luke 14,
6th, sometimes we're an example to others, in these matters set before us as tests. 1Corinthians 10:13,14, James 1:12, 2Corinthians 3:2,
@Suze: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to be difficult. I just want clarification.
Luke 14:
12 Then said he (Jesus) also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbors; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
Who was Jesus talking to?? The "Jews". "....call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind..."
Jesus didn't say to invite the infidels or Baal worshippers. Let them Repent first, then they can be helped.
And what does the incident of that woman pouring expensive oil on the head of Jesus have to do with giving to infidels?
I'm pretty sure the Lord God laid it on that woman's heart to do that. She knew in her heart that Jesus was worthy of that expensive oil. But Jesus's "apostles" murmured among themselves calling it a waste.
People often begrudge others what they themselves cannot have.
Satan and his followers cannot ever have salvation so they begrudge it to others, and try to destroy them.
The poor, the hungry cannot have, so they steal from those that do.
Re. Christ deniers: Unless God calls them (like He did to the Apostle Paul) any kindness we show them is, in my opinion, for nothing. And even after Paul converted, he was treated with distain by the other Apostles.
It would be nice if everyone gave to others like Jesus wanted us to, but that's not what happens. Giving should be reciprocal-
(I give to you, you give to them, they give to me) but it doesn't work that way.
"...for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just."
Just being allowed into Heaven should be enough recompense for anyone.
Matthew 3-7, Matthew 5, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 9:10-13, Matthew 9:14-17, Matthew 9:27-34, Matthew 12:14, Matthew 12, Matthew 15, Matthew 16, Matthew 16:6,12, Matthew 19:3, * Matthew 21, Matthew 22, Matthew 22:15, it appears they were wrongfully referring to the book of Tobet, in 1611 version, Tobit 3:7,8, Matthew 22:29,
* Matthew 23:2, whole chapter Matthew 23, Matthew 27:62,
Matthew 23:13,14,
Mark 2:16, Mark 2, Mark 3:1-6, Mark 7:1-23, Mark 8:11,15, Mark 10:2, Mark 12:13,
Luke 5:17-39, Luke 6:2-11, Luke 7:29-50, Luke 11:37-54, Luke 12:1, Luke 12:31, Luke 14:1-24, Luke 14, Luke 16:14-31, Luke 16, Luke 19:35-39,
John 1:19-34, John 3:1-21, John 7:28-32, John 7:43-53, John 8:3-22, John 9, John 9:15,16, John 11:37-57, John 12:19, John 12:42, John 18:3,
Acts 15, Acts 23,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study, I included several Chapters to read next to verses, to read within context, for better understanding
I have wondered how believing in the "finished work" of Christ is a doctrine of the Bible. When Christ died and said "it is finished" he could have meant a lot of things (his life was ended, his suffering was over, the sacrifice for sin was done etc.), but the Bible doesn't teach us just to believe in the "finished work". Since we live in an entitlement society I fear that we use that phrase to apply to us that we no longer have to labor in his kindgom. I listed a few of the teachings and promises of the Bible that apply to our response to his death on cross. Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are justified by faith (a total belief in what God has said, commanded, done etc.). Hebrews 11 the faith chapter talks of faith having a response. James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Mat. 25 has several examples of people that were lost at the end of time because they didn't do God's work even though they had a certain knowledge of Him. Faith obviously has to precede anything we do, but if time allows us to labor God expects that of us. Let's all be "wise virgins".
As for the part about rendering to Caesar he put them in to a trap.He said give to caesar whats his and God what is his.What is God's ?Everything.Jesus did such way of puting his enemies to a trap even other times when he was asked by tge pharisees about his authority he asked them about John authority.So the sincere would understand it as being about giving all to God while the wicked will understand it as being for wretched caesar.And as for Luke 14 Counting the cost is not about investing money its counting the cost of discipleship which Jesus shows just some 3 verses after your citation Luke 14:33 we should give all.And the parable of the talent aint talking for investing either
Read it yourself.
And we know the parable of the rich fool which made treasures for himself luke 12:13-21
And what did Abraham say to the rich man in the story of the rich man and lazarus which i dont think its even a parable luke 16:25 so he will not go to heaven because he had his riches in earth not in heaven .
I agree with some of your points, but not your main conclusions. Here is an example: "Christians cannot work for money( Matthew 6:24)". Here two different things are conflated. The verse says you can't serve two masters. At the end it says you can't both serve God and mammon or weatlth. This verse is true of course and I fully believe it. For context you can read verse 21- where your heart is. It's talking about not money itself being evil, but your heart serving and slaving money... like making it a false god or idol.
Along the same theme I noticed you suggested that the root of evil is money, but that's also not what it says. The Bible says the "love" of money is the root of all kinds of evil. So we should not love it.
So, its not the product that is bad, but the condition of the heart that makes it bad. This is the same for many other sins, for example: idolatry, greed, lust, coveting, lying, hating ones neighbor or father or mother. These sins occur from conditions of the heart, not objects. This is supported by the life of Jesus as he had a job and worked as a carpenter. He make something of value to society and likely traded that for things He needed for living such as food, shelter, clothing. Likely there was a unit of currency used as a convenience for trade and currency is not inherently bad as it facilitates more accurate trade- otherwise its hard to trade 1/10 a house for 1/2 a horse, for example. There is no indication that Jesus grew food himself, or made His own clothes, or was 100% self sufficient, so it is a fairly safe assumption that Jesus traded and bought and sold to meet needs.
Matthew 22:19 - 22:22 - Jesus asked to see the money and said Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. He was for being a good steward of resources: Luke 14: 28-30, and the parable of the talents seems pro-investing. God bless.
Christians must forsake wealth. Yes and no. What Luke 14:33 says in simple wordords is that we must put away anything that becomes obstacle in our way to Heaven. That maybe wealth, a person, my own plans for life, my desires etc. IF THEY ARE OBSTACLES, IF NEEDED.
Christians cannot work for money Not right. See Thessalonians 3:11-12, Acts 20:33-35, 2 Thessalonians 3:10 etc.
Christians do Not pay taxes. Not right. See Romans 13:6-7
Christians travel and trust in God for daily food. Not right. Where do you get that travel? Birds fly all the time because this is how they find food, they just not sit on a branch expecting for food to drop from heaven. the same with people, they must go and find a job and work (and God will help them), they should not sit on their bench expecting God rains money from above. Yes trust that God that will not let us down to meet our material needs.
Christians live together 24/7. Ye and no. That was the case in the Jewish christian church, BUT it was not in the gentile churches in Thessalonika, Berea, Corinth, Ephesus...
Christians give to the needy in secret. Thats right
Women can be leaders in the church . Not quite. The Ancient church did not allow women to teach or preach. See 1 Timothy 2:11-12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. And if somebody argues that Paul was oldfashioned like the whole world at that time, well as far as i am concerned i wouldn't dare disagree to apostle Paul.
If you are a Christian you own nothing in this world. Not right. So far in the history of Christianity there have been the medieval gospels of poverty and nowadays gospels of prosperity. They are both wrong. The Christian is a normal balanced person. We live just like aill the other people but without sin and not forgetting that our citizeshipis is in Heaven.
Christians are nonviolent Thats right
Christians forgive as much as they can. Thats right. Even our enemies with the power and grace of God
JESUS said that we must not work for money and wealth and that God would provide our needs Matthew 6:19-33 and john 6:27
He told us to sell all
Luke 11:41 to the pharisees
Luke 12:33 to the disciples
Luke 14:33 to the multitudes
Luke 18:22, Matthew 19:16-30 to the rich guy
And his disciples approve
Acts 2:44-45
Acts 4:33-34
Luke 18:28-30
Matthew 4:18-24
But who will go to heaven
Jesus and Jacob give us a hint
Luke 18:24-25
Mark 10:17-31
Matthew 5:3
Luke 6:20
James 2:5
But where does that put the rich?
Luke 6:24-25
James 5:1-3
What is the root of all evil?
1 timothy 6:10
Genesis 3
Are we to live under the curse or are we set free by God through Jesus? Because he broke every curse including this one:
Genesis 3:17-19
Should we end in the midst of the Sodomites?
Ezekiel 16:49-50
Luke 17:28
But there are days ahead that we would need to learn to trust in Yahweh for Manna his heavenly bread because the mark of the beast is the last form of money as a chip
Revelation 13
But if we learn to do these things that Jesus taught we might survive and prevail.
This word "abased" is the word humbled in the Greek text. This is quote from Proverbs 3:34 and it is used quite extensively through the entire New Testament. Peter has probably the best presentation of this in 1 Peter 5:5.
Peter quotes Proverbs 3:34 "For whosoever exalts themselves shall be humbled, and whosoever should humble themselves shall be exalted." In the very next verse, 1 Peter 5:6, it says, "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God."
Now, this looks like it is saying we are to humble ourselves, but as I am comparing this with the original language of scripture, the phrase "Humble yourselves" is what is called a Passive Voice, which means the subject (the believer) is not told to do the action, but rather the subject (believer) is to receive the action.
So, it is literally "be humbled," not the believer doing the humbling, but the believer submitting to the humbling that is coming to you. As I look at what the text says, "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God," it is not telling me to humble myself, but to submit myself to God's humbling process.
Peter is saying that God's mighty hand is coming upon us to humble us, that is, bring us low. We are to submit to it!
The cross is an upright stake, hence a cross (the Rom. instrument of crucifixion)
[The "cross" Mark 8:34 is not a symbol for suffering in general. Rather it refers to withstanding persecution (difficult times), by the Lord's power, as He directs the circumstances of life. As Christ's disciples, believers are to hold true - even when attacked by the ungodly.]
And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:27
The cross is a symbol for Christ followers , used figuratively for the (sacrifice) each believer bears to be a true follower .
There are verses related to David's son that died with Bathsheeba that would seem to indicate that children who die before a certain age we can be confident to meet eventually in heaven. ( 2 Samuel 12:14). Those who are mentally challenged to the point where they don't consciously sin also could be arguably in that camp. I know someone who has attended concerts at our local church that I have run into twice in a month or two that is mentally challenged. He tends to obsessively listen to Christian music and gyrate uncontrollably. This is a good reminder to all of us that we don't always see what's going on in the heart of some people. It would be illogical to disbelieve in such individuals having universal salvation upon an early death and somehow expect that they would be Raptured. Whether making it to heaven AFTER death warrants being Raptured is a bit trickier; however. There are verses about gathering the weaning child in Joel 2:16 certainly invoke a theme like the Rapture in the Holy Convocation. We certainly should of course teach the scriptures faithfully to help rear our kids in the fear and admonition of the Lord.
In light of the above statement; I would say that unlike the hardened hearts of many adults; children still have potential for a large spiritual awakening in terms of numerical response to the Word. That could be something that would signify His imminent return; perhaps with abortions being significantly reduced we will indeed see if Satan has been terminating an army already in heaven of faithful martyrs and if a generation of believers will come into fruition when the children are allowed to live who otherwise would have been slain. This is just a theory; but God will receive praise ( Psalm 8:2).
Principle Six: ANY new believer is qualified for the Rapture. ( Luke 14:24-35). See my next post...
Matthew 25:31-46, 2Corinthians 9:9, Luke 14:13,14, Luke 6:20, James 1:27, James 2,
Hopefully these are helpful
We are called to go forth and tell others of the salvation of the LORD. Matthew 28: 18-20
Romans 10: 14
We testify of the great and wonderful things that the LORD has done for us.
Psalms 126:6; 2 Timothy 4:2
GOD bless all on this platform.
October 20, 2022
Great you're reading the Bible! Romans 10:17, 2Timothy 2:15,
James 1:5,
Genesis 1:26,27, compare to; John 1:1-4, Job 38,
One GOD: 1Timothy 2:5, Galatians 3:20,
Food in Heaven = Psalms 78:24,25, Revelation 22:2, Luke 22:16, Matthew 26:29, Revelation 19:9, Luke 14:16-24,
Hopefully these are helpful
I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....
We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.
When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.
Deuteronomy 15:7, Job 5:16, Proverbs 19:4, Psalms 69:33, Proverbs 14:21, 2Corinthians 9:9, Psalms 68:10, Galatians 2:10, Romans 15:26, Psalms 40:17, Proverbs 22:2, Psalms 41:1, Luke 14:13, Psalms 74:21, Proverbs 29:7, Proverbs 28:27, Psalms 112:9, Psalms 82:3, Daniel 4:27, Proverbs 21:13, Proverbs 31:10,20, context Proverbs 31, Proverbs 19:17, Proverbs 19:7, Luke 4:18, Matthew 11:5, Mark 10:21,
Proverbs 19:6, Esther 9:22, James 1:27,
This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,
Psalms 31:24, Ecclesiastes 3:1,
This reminds us of Gideon when he asked the angel whose side are you on and he said "the Lord's side." ( Joshua 5:13-15). As with anything else the attitudes of the heart are more important than a surface level of the law. Or; in order to do what was expected "obedience is better than sacrifice." ( 1 Samuel 15:22). This is why certain functions were only done by priests. Christ Himself; of course was fully God and fully man; certainly the Creator could do as He wished. Mercy and compassion were used over and over to the obstinate Pharisees who Christ would frequently bother doing miracles on the Sabbath. Luke 14:5 shows that compassion to an animal is a "work" that someone with compassion would do if an animal fell in a pit. ( Proverbs 12:10-12).
The law until the church was established was still in effect; and people were told to do what was required but not the way the Pharisees did as they were full of hypocrisy. ( Matthew 23:23). The law now was summarized by Christ by loving God with all your heart; soul; mind and strength and loving your neighbor as yourself ( Luke 10:27). We are asked now in the N.T. NOT to follow "holy days" and such ( Galatians 4:9-10). Some say there is controversy there; but it is clear that Paul did meet on the first day of the week ( Acts 20:7); and collections were to be prepared that day ( 1 Cor. 16:2). At the very least; the Son of man being lord of the Sabbath trumps any earlier Sabbath laws since we are under a New Covenant as to having to meet Saturdays.
It would appear that Sunday worship was established; although I will not argue that it is to be substituted for what was Saturday worship; or it is wrong any day to gather for corporate worship. The effect of the law certainly doesn't bring a death penalty. However; many laws that did (the clearest being murder) hasn't helped society today with it's lawlessness; clearly.
Once He comes in the Millennium; He will rule with a rod of iron and enforce law.
Exodus 22:21-27, Exodus 23:1-12, Deuteronomy 24:12-15, Psalms 14:6, Matthew 25:31-46, Psalms 41:1, Psalms 82:3,4, Psalms 112:9, Proverbs 14:31, Proverbs 21:13, Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Luke 14:13,14, Luke 18:22, 2Corinthians 9:9,
Proverbs 13:7,
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This section goes from they did not believe (as seen in John 6:64; 8:46 and others) to verse 39 of this chapter which states that they COULD not believe as prophesied in Isaiah 53:1.
Verse 42 serves as a harsh reminder that we can have belief in Christ but we also must CONFESS with our mouths ( Romans 10:9-10) in order to have saving faith. We are reminded here of Luke 16:15 which states that which is honorable among men is an abomination to God.
Here; it was praise of men that was the cause; and being thrown out of the synagogue; not even direct physical persecution.
Verse 48 reminds us of the conviction of the Spirit as mentioned in John 16:8; a few chapters later. Clearly; the whole Godhead works as a unit in tandem in ways mysterious to man.
Verse 40 goes on further to state from Isaiah about God Himself blinding men. Some other verses on that include 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where God Himself sends strong delusion so that they will believe the lie because of the previous verse where they did not LOVE the truth. Also we have Isaiah 66:4 where it says that God will choose their delusions.
All sin stems from self justification; and self love that cannot accept the true state of our souls as fallen man because of Adam and his progeny that makes up natural man. Naked we come into this world and naked we shall go ( Job 1:21); also see Ecclesiastes 5:15. We cannot love anything above God; Jesus uses the word HATE for anything else ( Luke 14:25-26). We see the general sentiment in verse 25 of this chapter. Clearly; Christ Himself showed love in the previous chapter for Lazarus; Mary and Martha as well as John when He said "Behold your mother" to John at the cross so that he could take care of her. ( John 19:26-27).
There were times when they sought Him out when He stated the more important principle that those who followed Him were brothers; sisters; etc. ( Luke 8:21).
The blueprint for being a child of God or not is in John 12.
We are warned by Christ that if an army comes with more men then we have; we have to assess our strength and plan accordingly. ( Luke 14:31). Since Satan is the "god of this world" ( 2 Cor. 4:4) and Christ never disputed with him about being given authority over the Kingdoms of the earth ( Luke 4:6) we only have 3 options. Namely; to either worship Satan; surrender to Him; or operate in the power of the Holy Spirit through Christ who has overcome hell and the grave and who exercises all authority over heaven and earth. ( Matt. 28:18).
The scope of Satan's rulership; therefore is interwoven throughout the world governments; institutions; and hierarchy. It is entangled throughout every false religion of the earth. The imaginations of men are blinded to the Gospel truth; and his desires are always to lead men to their destruction by giving them delusions that they can hold onto their possessions; loved ones; or positions in life forever. God therefore must do a miraculous transformation when one is "Born Again" so that they realize that they were headed for eternal damnation on the wide road until the narrow path was revealed to them. Satan himself can certainly fear Christ and knows that he is defeated; but there is no love for Him. If he can continue to control our lives after salvation and render us ineffective; we stand to lose our rewards and therefore risk an early departure from this life ( 1 Cor. 11:30).
Therefore; the war is won but many battles continue. We can be as Christ trusting God the road He has predestined for us in order to complete the works for us prepared from before creation ( Eph. 2:10). Pain and suffering are all necessary even though none of us can grasp it fully. As long as we are walking in the Spirit Satan cannot affect our soul. If we allow sin in any part of our lives; however God can and does use the enemy to oppress us. He can allow physical affliction as well as we see with Paul (2Cor12:8
In Luke 14:34, When it says salt is good, the word good means useful. In those days, salt was a preservative. You put salt on things rather than refrigeration to keep it from putrefying. But if salt does not contain the proper ingredients, what is it good for?
Verse 35 says "It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."
And I've seen pictures of wagons going through the streets of Jerusalem and salt is alongside of the road where the people just come out and just throw it out in the street.
It is not good for anything. Once salt loses its seasoning and it doesn't serve its purpose, it's no longer effective, or useful. Do you see what Jesus is saying?
He is saying here's the reason why I tell you all of these hard things. Because if your life is so entangled with the cares of this life, to where your life is no longer effective for Christ, we are good for nothing. Now our family might not agree with that. Oh you are good for something. Give me a few minutes and I'll think of something!
You see, we were created by the Creator for His purposes. But if my life gets so entangled with the things of this earthly life, where my life is no longer effective for Christ, where I can no longer say with the apostle Paul that whether I will live or whether I die may Christ be magnified in my body.
If I can no longer say that, I am really good for nothing. There will be nothing eternal, and nothing that represents the truth.
People around me won't see Christ in me, and they won't see my love for Him, my dedication to Him. They won't see my sacrifice and the surrender of my life to Him. They might see the Jesus sticker on my car, but I am "too busy" doing other things to follow him. The salt will be good for nothing, not even to pour on the dung hill.
became contaminated it was rendered useless i.e. like dung. Gods words are salted or pure when we allow things of the world to
break down the words in oiur lives we become useless. thats why we need to continually put it on and stay fresh spiritually in
our walk with God. Look up all things pertaining to salt in eastern culture in the bible very enlightening. Also Jesus Christ many
times explained spiritual truth according to the manner and custom of eastern culture and life.
Luke 14:7-14
I agree with the way you adressed this topic before. I believe you helped break down the biggest most divisive issue, when there is hypocrisy with abuses & blatant unrepented sins, there is accountability. I believe Jesus clearly taught accountability & old testament usually addressed as within Church / temple & leadership within, also: Isaiah 9:17, Matthew 20:1-19, Luke 20:45-47, Luke 11:39-54, Matthew 23, Isaiah 1:17, Isaiah 1, Isaiah 58, Jeremiah 7:1-17, Jeremiah 22:3, Jeremiah 34:8-12 ._..
I believe you Chris or possibly someone else addressed the question we're they ever really saved?
I address this question as to answer the many outside the church who ask because of injustice etc. This site is for those, I believe most of all.
Faith Knight, I also agree with Adam & Chris this is an issue with disagreement. & hesitation is possibly warning. But, I included scripture covering love, meekness in the way, its addressed. John 15:18,24,25, Luke 21:17, Zechariah 13:6,
Count the cost? Luke 14:26-35,
Said in sincerity of Love, through the fellowship of Faith in Jesus Christ
Learn to :
Deuteronomy 17:19, Isaiah 1:17,
Even fruit, isn't automatic, it takes time to grow.
Pruning, is there habits that need to be cut off? Even if it starts growing back, to trim again.
Luke 17:33, John 8:34, Romans 6, Romans 7, Romans 8:2,
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Hello, I don't think Mishael checks this comment section. l read your question, I will give you my opinion, an example I went through & scriptures I find relevant. Hopefully these are all helpful.
1st if we're personally bothered in our spirit about something it may be the HOLY Spirit telling us it's wrong. Ephesians 4:30, John 14:23-26, 1Corinthians 2:10-16,
2nd if we're doubtful, is that also indication it's wrong? Romans 14:22-23, scripture in context, whole chapter: Romans 14,
3rd, is this were loving GOD, hating your ._.__ comes in? Are we willing to serve GOD over love of family? Luke 14:26,
4th, Luke 14:27, not being a cross you put in your pocket, around your neck or on the wall: Micah 5:12,13, Deuteronomy 18:9-14, Nahum 1:14, Deuteronomy 4:14-20, Deuteronomy 4:23-25, I even have personal conviction about wearing a cross, since I accepted JESUS as my Savior at young age. Something just bothered me inside about it spiritually. Even though some were special "Christian" gifts. & many people wear them.
5th, One day recently, I saw a "Christian" bookstore selling crucifixion nails as jewelry. I cringed. Then I thought if someone was killed, raised again from the grave; would that person eagerly embrace another that had the weapon or thing that tortured & caused the pain & death, hung around their neck? or would they feel multiple emotions triggered by it? I thought of someone wearing a pill, bullet, ect. of a loved one, in resemblance, remembrance.
Luke 14,
6th, sometimes we're an example to others, in these matters set before us as tests. 1Corinthians 10:13,14, James 1:12, 2Corinthians 3:2,
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Luke 14:
12 Then said he (Jesus) also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbors; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
Who was Jesus talking to?? The "Jews". "....call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind..."
Jesus didn't say to invite the infidels or Baal worshippers. Let them Repent first, then they can be helped.
And what does the incident of that woman pouring expensive oil on the head of Jesus have to do with giving to infidels?
I'm pretty sure the Lord God laid it on that woman's heart to do that. She knew in her heart that Jesus was worthy of that expensive oil. But Jesus's "apostles" murmured among themselves calling it a waste.
People often begrudge others what they themselves cannot have.
Satan and his followers cannot ever have salvation so they begrudge it to others, and try to destroy them.
The poor, the hungry cannot have, so they steal from those that do.
Re. Christ deniers: Unless God calls them (like He did to the Apostle Paul) any kindness we show them is, in my opinion, for nothing. And even after Paul converted, he was treated with distain by the other Apostles.
It would be nice if everyone gave to others like Jesus wanted us to, but that's not what happens. Giving should be reciprocal-
(I give to you, you give to them, they give to me) but it doesn't work that way.
"...for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just."
Just being allowed into Heaven should be enough recompense for anyone.
* Leviticus 19:15, Amos 2:6-7, Amos 5:12, Amos 8:4, Habakkuk 3:14,
Scriptures about the poor: Exodus 22:25, Exodus 23:1-11, Leviticus 19:10, Leviticus 23:22, Deuteronomy 24:14,15,
Job 29:11-17, Job 30:25, Job 31:13-40, Job 34:19-28,
Leviticus 25:25-55, Deuteronomy 15:1-15,
1Samuel 2:7-8, Job 24, Matthew 19:21,
Psalms 9:18, Psalms 12:5, Psalms 14:6,
Galatians 2:10, Zechariah 7:10, Luke 14:12-14, may want to keep reading Luke 14,
Matthew 5:3, Luke 6:20,
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Matthew 3-7, Matthew 5, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 9:10-13, Matthew 9:14-17, Matthew 9:27-34, Matthew 12:14, Matthew 12, Matthew 15, Matthew 16, Matthew 16:6,12, Matthew 19:3, * Matthew 21, Matthew 22, Matthew 22:15, it appears they were wrongfully referring to the book of Tobet, in 1611 version, Tobit 3:7,8, Matthew 22:29,
* Matthew 23:2, whole chapter Matthew 23, Matthew 27:62,
Matthew 23:13,14,
Mark 2:16, Mark 2, Mark 3:1-6, Mark 7:1-23, Mark 8:11,15, Mark 10:2, Mark 12:13,
Luke 5:17-39, Luke 6:2-11, Luke 7:29-50, Luke 11:37-54, Luke 12:1, Luke 12:31, Luke 14:1-24, Luke 14, Luke 16:14-31, Luke 16, Luke 19:35-39,
John 1:19-34, John 3:1-21, John 7:28-32, John 7:43-53, John 8:3-22, John 9, John 9:15,16, John 11:37-57, John 12:19, John 12:42, John 18:3,
Acts 15, Acts 23,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study, I included several Chapters to read next to verses, to read within context, for better understanding
Read it yourself.
And we know the parable of the rich fool which made treasures for himself luke 12:13-21
And what did Abraham say to the rich man in the story of the rich man and lazarus which i dont think its even a parable luke 16:25 so he will not go to heaven because he had his riches in earth not in heaven .
I agree with some of your points, but not your main conclusions. Here is an example: "Christians cannot work for money( Matthew 6:24)". Here two different things are conflated. The verse says you can't serve two masters. At the end it says you can't both serve God and mammon or weatlth. This verse is true of course and I fully believe it. For context you can read verse 21- where your heart is. It's talking about not money itself being evil, but your heart serving and slaving money... like making it a false god or idol.
Along the same theme I noticed you suggested that the root of evil is money, but that's also not what it says. The Bible says the "love" of money is the root of all kinds of evil. So we should not love it.
So, its not the product that is bad, but the condition of the heart that makes it bad. This is the same for many other sins, for example: idolatry, greed, lust, coveting, lying, hating ones neighbor or father or mother. These sins occur from conditions of the heart, not objects. This is supported by the life of Jesus as he had a job and worked as a carpenter. He make something of value to society and likely traded that for things He needed for living such as food, shelter, clothing. Likely there was a unit of currency used as a convenience for trade and currency is not inherently bad as it facilitates more accurate trade- otherwise its hard to trade 1/10 a house for 1/2 a horse, for example. There is no indication that Jesus grew food himself, or made His own clothes, or was 100% self sufficient, so it is a fairly safe assumption that Jesus traded and bought and sold to meet needs.
Matthew 22:19 - 22:22 - Jesus asked to see the money and said Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. He was for being a good steward of resources: Luke 14: 28-30, and the parable of the talents seems pro-investing. God bless.
Christians must forsake wealth. Yes and no. What Luke 14:33 says in simple wordords is that we must put away anything that becomes obstacle in our way to Heaven. That maybe wealth, a person, my own plans for life, my desires etc. IF THEY ARE OBSTACLES, IF NEEDED.
Christians cannot work for money Not right. See Thessalonians 3:11-12, Acts 20:33-35, 2 Thessalonians 3:10 etc.
Christians do Not pay taxes. Not right. See Romans 13:6-7
Christians travel and trust in God for daily food. Not right. Where do you get that travel? Birds fly all the time because this is how they find food, they just not sit on a branch expecting for food to drop from heaven. the same with people, they must go and find a job and work (and God will help them), they should not sit on their bench expecting God rains money from above. Yes trust that God that will not let us down to meet our material needs.
Christians live together 24/7. Ye and no. That was the case in the Jewish christian church, BUT it was not in the gentile churches in Thessalonika, Berea, Corinth, Ephesus...
Christians give to the needy in secret. Thats right
Women can be leaders in the church . Not quite. The Ancient church did not allow women to teach or preach. See 1 Timothy 2:11-12 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. And if somebody argues that Paul was oldfashioned like the whole world at that time, well as far as i am concerned i wouldn't dare disagree to apostle Paul.
If you are a Christian you own nothing in this world. Not right. So far in the history of Christianity there have been the medieval gospels of poverty and nowadays gospels of prosperity. They are both wrong. The Christian is a normal balanced person. We live just like aill the other people but without sin and not forgetting that our citizeshipis is in Heaven.
Christians are nonviolent Thats right
Christians forgive as much as they can. Thats right. Even our enemies with the power and grace of God
God bless u
He told us to sell all
Luke 11:41 to the pharisees
Luke 12:33 to the disciples
Luke 14:33 to the multitudes
Luke 18:22, Matthew 19:16-30 to the rich guy
And his disciples approve
Acts 2:44-45
Acts 4:33-34
Luke 18:28-30
Matthew 4:18-24
But who will go to heaven
Jesus and Jacob give us a hint
Luke 18:24-25
Mark 10:17-31
Matthew 5:3
Luke 6:20
James 2:5
But where does that put the rich?
Luke 6:24-25
James 5:1-3
What is the root of all evil?
1 timothy 6:10
Genesis 3
Are we to live under the curse or are we set free by God through Jesus? Because he broke every curse including this one:
Genesis 3:17-19
Should we end in the midst of the Sodomites?
Ezekiel 16:49-50
Luke 17:28
But there are days ahead that we would need to learn to trust in Yahweh for Manna his heavenly bread because the mark of the beast is the last form of money as a chip
Revelation 13
But if we learn to do these things that Jesus taught we might survive and prevail.
1 Corinthians 7:21?
Pul does say that when you dont provide you are worse than and disbeliever but he doesnt say if you dont work to provide does he?
Yahweh Jireh?
When you answer anybody speaking about renouncing wealth think "what if he has done it?"
Not "he is challenging us lets ruin his life".
JESUS DOES SAY TO NOT WORK FOR MONEY MATTHEW 6:19-33
He always says sell everything to rich guys? Zaccheus sold half and other gave to cheated dudes.
Peter said"we left all to follow Jesus" luke 18:28-30?
Luke 11:41; luke 12:33; luke 14:33, 18:22 and other
Its prophecied! Buy with No Money! Eat freely without payment! Isaiah 55:1-5.