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Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME completely-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:18-21.Paul Apostle, among others, was murdered.Around year 95 AD, after 65 years of JESUS's ascention,John Apostle had been exiled to the isle of Patmos.JESUS was worried with the 7 Churches of Asia that Satan tried to corrupt, for the Church of Rome was corrupted and fell in the hands of Satan.The Church of the LORD in Rome would be the eighth Church if it had not in the hands of Satan completely.Definitely or permanently, the Church of the Lord in Rome after being corrupted by the Devil became the cradle of Antichrist spiritually speaking- 1John 2:v.18-21.Two thousand years has passed, Satan perpetuated its religious power creating an universal and powerful religious and satanic system, a religious MONSTER with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a name of blasphemy, the nations, with some exceptions, and their respective rulers are dominated or have connections with this satanic religious MONSTER.To perpetuate this satanic dominion Satan created the Papacy in the year 67 AD-Pope Linus- after had corrupted the former Church of the Lord in Rome, and the Church was named Catholic Church, later Roman Catholic Church.Since the beginning of this corrupted "Christian" church were elected 266 Popes and upon them the RCC rides until this current time-and this satanic religious system is called as The Beast of sea-which rules and guides the nations spiritually.Sea is waters, waters are peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues, dominated by the Beast of sea.The Papacy and the Great Whore-the Roman Catholic Church-will be wounded to death from now on, day after day. Pope Francis must died soon and will be elected the last Pope, this elected last Pope will ruled the 1st half of the week 70th- Daniel 9:v.27. Rev.13:5-To happen this, must manifest first the Beast of earth,then there will be two Beast in the Earth.

JUAN DIAZ

Be in peace, you are welcome brother in Christ. See, my reply was according my zeal by the Word of GOD, as you know , the Word is GOD. Who loves the Word, loves GOD.

Yes, I surely repeat and place a lot of Scripture because it gives support of my end-time vision, I have not any other source except the Word of GOD to interpret the Word of GOD. Scriptures explain Scriptures.

Dear Juan Diaz, GOD is the Truth, so what matters is Truth, and the Truth is only one. We are speaking of revelations of Apocalypses' times, not speculations, or suppositions, or conjectures, or opinions, or imaginations. That said, I take the Bible, and read Rev. 13:v.1-10-THE BEAST OF SEA. HIS ANCIENT ROOTS: v.2- he is like unto a leopard(3)-Greece, and his feet were as the feet of a bear(2)-Medo-Persian, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(1)-Babylon: These three peoples were swallowed by the Roman Empire- Daniel 7:v.2-7, and for this 4th kingdom there is not any animal because it is dreadful, strong exceedingly; and diverse from all the beasts before it; and it had ten horns. It was exactly in the dominion of the terrible 4th kingdom that GOD sent JESUS to preach the Gospel of GOD's kingdom, and after around 3 years of preachings JESUS was crucified by his own people. Antichrist was in the embryo yet.The powerful apostles of the LORD even in the absense of JESUS continued with great power the work that JESUS had started. Churches were developed in the world, Paul apostle worked hard, he ministered several churches, the church of Rome was one of them.

The Roman Empire was being shakened by the preaching of the Gospel of JESUS and it troubled the Roman Empire,dominated by the Devil.So Satan worked in the corruption of the Churches of the Lord, the Apostles did fight against Satan. Satan CORRUPTED the CHURCH OF ROME by entire-the Antichrist developed itself-John Apostle denounced Satan's strategy- 1John 2:v.18-21

continues in next post on Beast of sea--lack of space to write

If you ask any Pastor, only about 20% of the congregation are tithing. It's hard for me to find Christian bookstores where I live, so I don't mind perusing through books and pamphlets on my way to the parking lot. I may buy some that are good handouts for impromptu evangelistic opportunities that come up.

If we're praying to the Lord of the Harvest, to send workers into the harvest; sometimes that's us :D One of my attention grabbers is "Whatcha Got?" I know, it's lame but my face is funny.

Where it says v.14 that Christ drove out the buyers and sellers from the temple , my understanding is that there should be no buying or selling within the church . Not even religious items , is this correct ?

Pray, read, and study the Word and the Holy Spirit will give you understanding. There are parts of the Word that some of us just don't understand. This Bible site has a good Matthew Henry commentary at the end of most chapters that will help you. God bless!

i ask for understanding of jesuses word amen

Satan's objective is to keep the mind "blind" to the Gospel. Satan has a vast assortment of weapons at his disposal. Remember that Satan has 6,000 years of experience with billions of people. You will not win any battle with Satan on your own, but you can be victorious through Christ. To accomplish his task, Satan looks to our flesh, our fallen nature, to build his kingdom on our lusts and weaknesses. Fallen nature is the nature of the flesh ruling. Satan rules in this realm, he keeps those under his influence as captives.

As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the WAYS of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air ( Ephesians 2:1).

Our relationship with Jesus Christ liberates us from Satan's power. We are now a part of the Lord's army, advancing the kingdom of God on enemy territory. This does not stop Satan from trying and as such, we must remain ON GUARD. He works through lust to capture us. The word for lust in Greek is epithumia, and means desire, craving, longing, and the desire for what is forbidden. Satan pursues our fallen nature through the mind, feeding our lusts with perceptions. Satan attacks three areas of our mind. They are lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life. For all that is in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-is not of the Father but is of the world (2 John 2:16).

John 3. You must be born again to receive:

Salvation through Jesus

Forgiveness of sins: past, present, future

Receive right standing with God the Father

Confess that the Holy Spirit is your Teacher

Tell someone that you have been born again.

Stay in 1 Corinthians until you see what is available to you, through the Holy Spirit. Ask him to Help you with fleshly passions. Rid your house of objects of temptation. Everything. Stay in the New Testament until you are stronger. Talk to Jesus 24/7 He hears you!

Mishael

Greetings in Christ JESUS, Jesse

I enjoyed a lot you post. As we can see, the book of Revelation may be regarded a dedication from God the Father and from His Son the Lord Jesus Christ to the 7 Churches of Asia; in other words, an act of consecrating, an expression of love, from whom demonstrates great affection or consideration and care, as is written in the chapter 1:verse 4-8:

4 John to the seven Churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from Him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before His throne;

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the Prince of the kings of the earth (kings made by Him). Unto Him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in His own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father; to Him be Glory and Dominion for ever and ever.Amen.

7 Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so,Amen.

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Aleluia!!!

In fact JESUS was "worried" with the spiritual conditions of the 7 Churches, it was still around the year 95 AD, or in the end of the first century. From the 7 angels of Churches (Pastors, or Bichops, or else), 5 was reproved.

Note that the Church of Rome to which Paul had dedicated great love and consideration had apostatised itself completely, it would be the eighth church among the seven if Satan had not posses it. By the way, John the Apostle wrote about this terrible event, saying: John 2:v.18-19- 1919 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.18-Little children, it is the last time, and

Hello, developing character and becoming more Christlike is a process, a journey through intentional effort over time. It doesn't magically happen, but takes regular practice.

Christianity is an action to actively follow (pursue) Christ and try to emulate Him and obey His teachings. It takes a lot of effort. Paul struggled himself and likened it to him running a race to win the prize. The prize is not won yet- that happens after this life when we are first judged and by following Christ we have hope for everlasting life with Him in heaven. I personally do not believe anyone is saved until after God judges us.

1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"

1 John 2:4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

Matt 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

AMEN!!!! Mishael.

1 John 2:27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Corinthians 2:10-14. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Amen.

Hi Esther.

Here's what's being used today.

1 John 2:27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The Holyspirit. Smile!!

God bless

'PEOPLE', is very large blanket kind of statement. Instead of naming a person, you accuse the entire group. These are just a few of the 5700 scriptures that deal with judgment. Mishael

John 7:24

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

2 Peter 2:8

(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds

2 Thessalonians 1:6

Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

Revelation 22:11

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

John 12:47

And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

Matthew 7:1

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

1 Corinthians 11:31

For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

Luke 6:37

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

In your prayers, forgive. Then petition the Lord Jesus to be judge between those who offend your conscience and understanding of scripture. Jesus...is our go-to person in such matters.

Book of Job 1:

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God (evil angels) came to present themselves before the LORD (on His Throne), and Satan came also among them.

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Comment=they show up when they have someone to accuse. Satan=Accuser

Always take your "legal issue" before the Lords Throne first. He has the best ATTORNEY, JESUS CHRIST.

1 John 2:1 The Advocate.

Cookie, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

John 2:21 But he (Jesus) spake of the temple of his body.

Jesus was telling the people that when they crucified him he would arise after three days in a NEW BODY, and that new body would be God's temple (where the Spirit of God LIVES)

Colossians 1:27 The kingdom of God is: CHRIST IN YOU; therefore the temple of God (CHRIST) is in you, making YOU the temple of God.

1 Corinthians 3:16 No ye not that YOU are the temple of God (CHRIST IN YOU)....(where the Spirit of God LIVES)

Hello,

If you believe the Bible where it says the "three are one" then, the answer is yes.

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

Here's other supporting scripture too:

Genesis 1:26

John 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

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Beware of creative people who will try to either disregard or 'reinterpret' all the above scripture in attempt to get it to mean something else. In searching our conscience, deep down we already know what "the father and I are one" and the "three are one" means. We should all ask God directly for wisdom in understanding the scriptures and to reveal and confirm His truths to us, so we aren't deceived or mislead by false teachers. James 1:5. 1 Timothy 4:1-2.

Hello

I have a question about bible versions? why do we have many bible versions and in most cases some verses are omitted in other versions? Which exactly is the original and most accurate version of the bible?

1 Corinthians 6:12

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the POWERS of any.

1 Corinthians 10:23

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things EDIFY not.

John 1:3

ALL THINGS were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

GENESIS speaks on plants, herbs, things for food, tea, coffee, seasoning, etc. God blessed all of it.

We know because of history, man has used various things to make alcoholic beverages.

Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his jittery stomach.

Our conscious is alive to God. We know when we're over-stepping the line of the permissive Will of God. Don't blame him for DWI's, manslaughter etc. TEMPERANCE is the key word here. It's a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

If Satan is accusing you ( JOB 1), Jesus is your Advocate (1 John 2:1); he's your defense Attorney.

Medical Marijuana is legal now. It's just a matter of having your doctor give permission for you to use it.

I only say that because for a long time it was illegal. People prosecuted for it may still be in prison?

Maybe some other comments from others will be or, not be helpful. I think you're being accused by the devil. To get his case Dismissed, all you need to do is to confess the entire case in front of the Judge. You wouldn't be here if you were not sorrowful over past years.

Satan has a very weak case. God made marijuana to serve as an herb. Problems happen because of how people want everything free. No regulation. As long as Governments and Cartels are dealing in it. It's going to have problems.

Repent and go the legalized route. Problem solved. It's much better than ingesting chemical opioids. Chemicals are dangerous and alter brain chemistry. Stops natural hormone production.

(ok guys, don't email me. I'll read your comments in here ok? :) Mishael

What scripture said that?

John 3:3-5 Jesus told Nicodemus, we must be born again.

When I asked Jesus into my life, I didn't hear harps playing or see any vision of wonder; I only felt the hot tears from a heart, broken over a life of sin.

I still sin. We all do. But we have an advocate with the Father. 1 John 2:1. How long does it take to bend a knee to confess and be restored?

Jesus wasn't offering cheap fire insurance when He hung on the cross. It cost him everything.

He is Gods son, but he was fully human on this earth.

When I cut myself shaving, I think of the 40+1 lashes that Jesus took for me; from a vile Roman scourge whip. I say ouch and then thank you Jesus. It's all good. :)

A Christian is God conscious; not sin conscious. Our sins are forgiven. Hallelujah.

Miyelani, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

There was no sin until man was created.

Romans 8:20 For the creature (man) was created SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly, but by reason of him (God) who hath SUBJECTED the same (man) in hope,

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Ecclesiastes 3:11 ....also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from beggining to the end.

Adam and Eve were created with a heart subject to the weakness of FLESH.

They were predestined to sin because; Christ was predestined to die for OUR sins:

Revelation 13:8 And ALL THAT DWELL upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of the life of the Lamb SLAIN BEFORE THE FOUNDATION of the world.

Hi Sacha,

You're not butting in, I don't think any private conversations on this site.

The context in this comment was those who "HATE THE BRETHEREN' the love Christ is not in them.

"If Christ dwell in us and we in him, his spirit CAUSE us to love one another.

quoting me now:

"I believe the emphasis here in John is not just the love for the brethren is evidence of

Christ in you,

But also the hatred for the brethren is evidence Christ is not in you."

Here's THE VERSES.

1 John 3;18-21. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

"We may fool one anther but not God." God knows the Heart!!

1 John 2:8-11. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1 John 4:20-21. If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

1 John 2:5. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected:

( hereby know we that we are in him.)

We are to display Gods love on all men, But Agape/Love which is one of 3 loves in scripture, It's what is used here towards the brethern WHERE BY WE KNOW! Christ is in us.

God bless

Jesse.

I believe the emphasis here in John is not just the love for the brethren is evidence of

Christ in you,

But also the hatred for the brethren is evidence Christ is not in you.

1 John 2:3-11. ( AND HEREBY WE DO KNOW )that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

""He that saith he is in the light, and HATETH his brother, is in darkness even until now.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

But he that HATETH his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.""

1 John 4:20-21. If a man say, I love God, and HATETH his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

( And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.)

THIS IS LOVE WE CAN'T COMMAND THE FLESH TO DO, THIS HIGH ORDER OF LOVE AND COMMANDMENT SEEMS TO BE MORE LIKE RECOGNITION AND VIRTUE OF THE SPIRIT.

1 John 4:20-21. If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

IF we're not in the light we may hear

"I NEVER KNEW YOU"

Abide in the true vine.

GOD BLES

Your comment sounds like an attack on Christians who believe the Bible. Why do you post such a thing on a Bible website and what is your goal? To unite or divide?

Christians believe Jesus is God because the Bible clearly says He's God. Is that reason enough? John 1:1 flat out says it. So, so all the scriptures below that even children read and understand. It needs no creative interpreting, needs no progressive pastor to interpret, just literally what it says. Jesus being God doesn't mean He's God the Father, but God the Son. God became a man and died for you, do you believe Him?

Claiming that Christians who read the scriptures and believe are somehow just 'Americans' or 'Catholics' seems like a disingenuous attack on Christians. Labeling and dividing and lying is what I've seen done to make such anti-Christ arguments. Anyone who does this is on extremely dangerous ground. Anyone who tries to spread anti-Christ lies should be ashamed of themselves.

1 John 2:22-24

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

John 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Hi Gordy

The world prefers darkness and resists truth.

John 1:9. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

John 3:19-21 (KJV) And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

I believe both sides of salvation is equally important, The law shows we're in dying need of a savior and Christ came to fulfill that need.

I believe we need to seriously turn our focus on Christ work on the cross.

And the true pathway to salvation.

Deception is Satans strategy,

Why do we debate about topics and try to argue it by reasoning when you may be talking to someone who's spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 John 2:27.

1 Corinthians 3:6 . I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

Our problem seems to be planting and watering, ( Preaching and teaching the gospel ).

We have seeds to sow, The Holyspirit will do his part.

Salvation is all important.

God bless.

Amen!!

Thanks friend, We need more posts on How to receive salvation rather than whether it can be lost,

Seek salvation then feed on the word.

As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

1 Peter 2:2.

Spiritual growth is what I think is the next most important thing,

A lack of spirituality can mean one of two things,

Either a carnal Christian.

Or one who don't have salvation.

If you are a true born again Christian and feed on the word, there's nothing you can do to keep from growing.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Matthew 7:18.

If there's sin in your life that will be dealt with as well.

John 6:57-58. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

John 6:63. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Key things about the manna in the wilderness.

1) You had to feed on it every day.

2) YOU HAD TO GET YOUR OWN!!

The true bread is the same way!!

2 Corinthians 13:5. Paul says to examine yourselves to see if Christ be in you.

John says when you are in Christ and Christ is on you, YOU WILL LOVE THE BRETHREN. You're in the light.

It's so easy to SAY Love Love, Love right?

We all Love someone!

So let's examine ourselves like this,

What about anger without a cause.

What about this Christian you just don't like? Ask yourself Why?

Where's the longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, forgiveness, Mercy, and Love that the bread of life bread of life supposed to have supplied you with?

Key words:

( The quickening spirit)

( Virtue )

( Baptism )

1 John 2:9. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

GB.

I have been trying to reply to Michael but get this every time.

This site can't be reached wwwkingjamesbibleonline.org took too long to respond.

Try:

Checking the connection

Checking the proxy and the firewall

Running Windows Network Diagnostics

ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

I was a Sunday keeper once so I am familiar with all of these excuses.

To cut to the chase I should ask that I be provided with one bible text that calls Sunday the Sabbath. Just 1.

Really, it is a matter of one's relationship to Christ. God is so wise he anticipated all of these reasons not to do as he commanded (not suggested).

John 14:15

If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1John 2:3

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 2:4

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

You see the Sabbath is one of the commandments.

Lots of people call themselves Christian but they do not meet the above criteria. God knew it.

Matthew7:21-23

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name...

Matthew 4:4

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Does it say by the New Testament only??

There is safety in sticking to what is written in God's word.

Truth can bear examination my mother taught me.

Remember that God is omniscient. We are not smarter than He is.

Trust God he will not lead you astray. Forget your opinion or my opinion and lean not to your understanding,

I am busy, in the mean time I will refer you to Amazing Facts by Doug Batchelor where these questions are addressed and TV station 3ABN.

When I am available I will come back to this discussion but please accept above in the mean time.

Yeah, People Love world rather than God

Christian is all about the relationship we had with God

1 John 2:15

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

James 4:8

Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4

"[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Not works of ours are involved, Be sure to always look a scripture carefully and having the Holy Spirit help you

Ephesians 2:8-10

"[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

Dear Brother Michael,

Your 1st question:

1. Did God make a mistake when he created a request (not a commandment) to circumcise?

No, God did not make a mistake. It was a request, per the scripture below:

Leviticus 12:1

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying," 2 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying," and continued on....3And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

God said to Moses SPEAK to the children of Israel! This circumcision was a REQUEST at that time. It was not a commandment in the same sense as a commandment in God's 10 Commandments. VERY IMPORTANT distinction!

Your second question:

You ask why did the church of the 1st century change God's request of circumcision. Because it wasn't one of God's 10 commandments.

The apostles believed and followed God's 10 commandments, and they did not change any of God's 10 Commandments!

Here is apostle John stating that fact:

1 John 2:3

"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments."

Now Brother Michael, please answer one question for me: Do you believe that the apostles were wrong in following and keeping God's 10 Commandments?

I await your answer Brother.

God Bless

Michael.

I errored on previous reply. I believe

Hebrews 6. is talking to believers, BUT not about SALVATION. If we can loose our salvation can we be restored? Every one sins, no one is perfect. Romans 7 ect..

Jesus is our advocate with the Father if we do sin. 1John 2:1. ect..

Visiting the text.

Hebrews 6:4-6. For it is ""IMPOSSIBLE" for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, TO RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO (REPENTANCE) seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

IF THIS VERSE IS TALKING ABOUT SALVATION THAT MEANS YOU GOT ONE CHANCE. "" FOR IT IS ( IMPOSSIBLE ) TO RENEW THEM AGAIN!! If you sin it's over!

Read on. NOTICE VERSE 9.

Hebrews 6:7-9. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

9) But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we thus speak.

The Entire Msg to the Hebrews is about maturity.

they was under persecution and was still mengaling in Judaism.

Fruit and gifts accompany salvation through the Holyspirit, Not Judaism.

Salvation and SANCTIFICATION is by the work of the spirit and is a GIFT "un Merritted."

This Way is called God's election.

Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, NOT OF WORKS, BUT OF HIM THAT CALLETH;)

2 Timothy 1:12. For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

God bless

Wine referred to was alcoholic, because of verses like this John 2:10. Jesus' first miracle was to make wine for the wedding, so He must not have a problem in small responsible amount. And the Word also recommended it to protect against illness. There are many medicines, drugs prescribed today for medical reasons that in larger doses would be irresponsible and harmful to our body/holy temple.

I personally don't see wine referred to as a mocker as a condemnation of wine for all situations. Anything in excess is harmful and can be abused and become an addiction.

Brother Dan, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk OLD WINE straightway desireth NEW (wine): for he saith, THE OLD IS BETTER.

John 2:1 And THE THIRD DAY (represents Christ resurrection) there was a MARRIAGE IN CANA OF GALILEE.....(represents New Jerusalem)

John 2:2 And BOTH Jesus was called, and his disciples, TO THE MARRIAGE.

John 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, THEY HAVE NO WINE.

John 2:9 .... and the governor (God the Spirit) of the feast called (CHRIST) the bridegroom,

John 2:10 And saith unto him....but thou has kept the good wine until NOW.

The old (wine: laws written in tablets of natural stone) were replaced by new (wine) laws written in the heart.

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Matthew 22:38 This is the first and GREATEST COMMANDMENT.

Matthew 22:39 And the SECOND is like unto it, thou shall LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.

Matthew 22:40 ON these TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG all the law and prophets.

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart will I GIVE you, and a new spirit will I put in you....

Ezekie 36:27 ....and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes....