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Erich did an excellent job using scripture to interpret scripture. However, you appear to just be saying you're right, but there's still no biblical support. You're saying that John 10:28 is absolute based on your rational, but, not grounded in scriptures. You're saying everyone just needs to believe John 10:28 is a OSAS verse, even though that is not even what Christ was intending. He was admonishing the Jewish leaders who refused to come to the light. Yet, you did not address the fact the John 10:27 is also ABSOLUTE and only the one following Jesus is safe in the hand of God.

Having to remain in the Son to remain in the Father for eternal life (1 John 2:24-25) doesn't negate the promise that all who are being saved are in the Father's hand. You said "We are ALL bought with a price, we are NOT our own...He paid for us with his own blood". If this is the case, why is not everyone just automatically saved? After all, Christ's atoning death was for the whole world. And if one genuinely accepts Christ & then renounces him, why would that person still have eternal life & the one who never accepted Christ lost? After all, they both ended up denying Jesus ( Matt. 10:32-33).

It seems like you're taking bible verses regarding Christ's one time sacrifice for the entire world and trying to apply that to individual believers. Yes, Christ shed his blood once for all, but, that does not mean the believer doesn't have an obligation to remain faithful. Rev. 2:10 says " be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." This is a conditional promise from Christ, so I must conclude that the one who is safe in the hand of God is the one who is remaining faithful to Christ. And the one faithful to the end will receive the end of their faith, eternal life ( Romans 6:22; 1 Peter 1:9)

Christians are assured of salvation & should take great joy in the promise of God to keep them in His hand! However, to inherit eternal life one must endure to the end.

1 Corinthians 15:35

But some one possibly will say, How are the dead raised up, after their whole frame is dissolved? And with WHAT KIND of bodies do they come again, after these are mouldered into dust?

2 Timothy 4:18

And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever.

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

1 John 2:17

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abides FOREVER.

Philippians 3:21 - Who shall CHANGE our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself?

1 Corinthians 15:42-44 - So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in INCORRUPTION; It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Matthew 22:30 - For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

FLESH is corruptible. It gets old, damaged; amputations, crippled, paralyzed, blind, deaf, and etc.

Our new bodies will be like Jesus's body. Over 500 SAW JESUS after he was crucified and resurrected from the tomb. He ate food.

We will eat and drink. Jesus has made all provisions for us. Will will have homes; be reunited with people who died as Christians.

HAVE FAITH in what is recorded in the Bible Scriptures.

Read the Gospels, Book of Acts, Revelation; 2 Peter 3.

Don't let Satan rob you of your tender faith. Get stronger.

Tell others. Show them these scriptures. Even better, give them a Bible with these scriptures highlighted. Walmart has inexpensive Bibles.

beware of false teachers

Hi Marke,

I've seen your posts before and agreed with many other of your views and felt they were grounded in Biblical truth. So, this is one area we have a difference in how we interpret the scriptures. To me it's 100% clear what the Bible says, and to you I'm sure you're 100% confident also. But our views are very different and are consequential as we're basically discussing the main aspect of Christianity.

So, let me only address just 1 of your points you wrote: "All born-again believers bring forth good fruit and cannot bring forth evil fruit."

Ok, I can see you took that idea from scripture which is great, but I just don't believe your interpretation as I see you're conflating sin with fruit to the point where you are possibly denying a Christian's ability to sin, is that correct?

Paul was a Christian and spoke about his struggles with fleshly desires and temptation to sin. Romans 7:13-25. So, he was a Christian who bore good fruit, yet still talked about his struggle with sin. He had to fight against it. He talked about having on the armor of God and being prepared for spiritual battles: Ephesians 6:10-18. He didn't say, we'll I'm "saved" and my fruit is good so I can do whatever I want. Quite the opposite.

1 John 2:4-6 - this indicates that we Christians continue to have a choice on whether to keep commandments or not. I'm sure you know that Paul's letters were to Christians.

Let me make a clear point. I'm a Christian and read the Bible daily and try to follow Jesus to the best of my ability, but I am imperfect and have temptations to sin just like any other human being. Sin can be fun by nature and I think most people admit to that. If you're so sure that it's impossible for a Christian to sin or do wrong or that we somehow don't have the freewill to, and is impossible to do wrong or to not follow Jesus, does that mean tonight I can choose to go out on the town and commit all kinds of sin that my flesh desires and you think I'll have no consequence?

Reply to Adam.

You quote from Hebrews 10.

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

We read in Matthew that the Lord shall judge His people and those who claim to be Christians will be rejected for never having been saved, not for having been saved at one time and then forsaking the things of God, returning to the world and sin in rejection of Christ.

The warnings are to all professing Christians to walk with God and keep themselves un spotted from the world. Those who heed the warnings give evidence they are truly saved. Those who ignore the warnings and forsake God prove they were never saved and Jesus never knew them. John speaks of these temporary fake Christians in 1 John.

1 John 2:19

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

They departed, like Judas, because they were not really with us, to begin with.

Sister Suze, your thoughts are not you own, but of God, this is how he teaches us.

He brings questions into our minds, then give us recollections of scriptures to answer the question.

1 John 2:27 The ANOINTING IN YOU will teach you all things ....you have no need that man teach you anything......

Trust in Christ for you answers, not man.

I know you do this, thought it might help others reading this.

God Bless You!

Hi ELB, I appreciate the follow up. However, the warnings of God in the OT, whether it is prophecy or not, need to be taken seriously at all times. God is unchanging and consistent. His holy character and nature did not just change from OT to NT. While we stand on our faith in Christ and His atoning blood, we stand on our faith. To renounce Christ as a follower and assume we are still "saved" is a complete mockery of the suffering he endured for sinners. He saved us from sin, not in spite of sin. and, we have a free will to continue with him, or not. However, according to 1 John 2: 24-25 if we don't continue in the Son we will not continue in the Father, and will not inherit eternal life.

Again, I just ask why Paul wrote in Romans 2 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds:To them who by patient CONTINUANCE in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, ETERNAL LIFE:" if we are unconditionally secure. Don;t get me wrong, I love the idea of unconditional eternal security, but, it just don't line up with scripture in it's proper context.

You have an incorrect view on this. Salvation is conditional on one's continued walk with Christ, like it or not. To say that one can wilfully walk away from Christ and live Disobedience to God will go to heaven is a direct violation of Hebrews 5:9 where we are told that Christ is the author of eternal life for all those who obey him. Also, your response is in direct conflict with Romans 2:9 where Paul says only those who continue walking with Christ will have eternal life. Notice the condition there. This is also in direct line with 1st John 2: 24-25. John clearly says that only those who abide and remain in Christ will receive the promise of eternal life. There is no guarantee there, unless one remains s in Christ. Again, I ask you to show me the Bible verse that states specifically that one will remain in Christ automatically if they are saved. The early church did not teach once saved always saved and specifically highlighted that if one walks away from priced and does not return to Christ will end up in hell. Justin Martyr, for example, addresses this and specifically highlights True Believers that walk away from Christ. The promise of eternal life has conditions and doesn't make it any less of a promise. There is always an if/then connection when it comes to Salvation. Again, you can't show me a Bible verse that so shows True Believers are automatically saved. Everything is based on our continued faith. If what you're saying is true, and it's not, then who can ever really know that they are a True Believer? And, if you are saying that one can be disobedient and end up in heaven makes God a liar and an accessory to sin. Lastly, Rev. 3:5 says those who walk with Christ will not have their name blotted out of The Book of Life. How do we get our names in The Book of Life? Only by accepting Christ gift of Salvation and walking in the light! If we can't have our names blotted out of the book of life that would make Christ a liar and the author of confusion.

Unfortunately, you have an incorrect view on this. Salvation is conditional on one's continued walk with Christ, like it or not. To say that one can wilfully walk away from Christ and live Disobedience to God will go to heaven is a direct violation of Hebrews 5:9 where we are told that Christ is the author of eternal life for all those who obey him. Also, your response is in direct conflict with Romans 2:9 where Paul says only those who continue walking with Christ will have eternal life. Notice the condition there. This is also in direct line with 1st John 2: 24-25. John clearly says that only those who abide and remain in Christ will receive the promise of eternal life. There is no guarantee there, unless one remains s in Christ. Again, I ask you to show me the Bible verse that states specifically that one will remain in Christ automatically if they are saved. The early church did not teach once saved always saved and specifically highlighted that if one walks away from priced and does not return to Christ will end up in hell. Justin Martyr, for example, addresses this and specifically highlights True Believers that walk away from Christ. The promise of eternal life has conditions and doesn't make it any less of a promise. There is always an if/then connection when it comes to Salvation. Again, you can't show me a Bible verse that so shows True Believers are automatically saved. Everything is based on our continued faith. If what you're saying is true, and it's not, then who can ever really know that they are a True Believer? And, if you are saying that one can be disobedient and end up in heaven makes God a liar and an accessory to sin.

Amen Brother Daniel!

1 John 2:27 ......you need not that any man teach you....

The ANOINTING will teach you.

God Bless You!

Proverbs 22:28, Proverbs 23:10, Deuteronomy 19:14, laws given to Moses for Israelites,

Deuteronomy 12:1-4, Deuteronomy 12:19, Deuteronomy 12:28-32, Leviticus 10:11, Deuteronomy 4:9, Deuteronomy 6, Deuteronomy 11, Psalms 25:5-12,, Psalms 32:8, John 14:26, 1John 2:27, Colossians 2:8,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study to determine the best

Amen and Amen Brother Alex:

Every person, whether you be MALE of FEMALE, in the flesh, are the WOMAN in God's WORD.

Every person, whether you be MALE or FEMALE, in the flesh, are THE CHURCH.

Every person, whether you be MALE or FEMALE, in the flesh, are to BE SILENT in the CHURCH.

The ONLY PASTOR in the CHURCH is CHRIST.

If YOU (the church, the woman) have questions ASH YOU PASTOR, CHRIST.

1 John 2:27 ....you need not any man teach you .....

Prophecy:

Psalms 78:2 I (the Word) will open my mouth IN PARABLES .....

1 Timothy 2:11 Let the WOMAN (male or female) learn in silence with all subjection (to Christ).

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a WOMAN (male or female) to teach (in the church, your body), nor to usurp authority over the MAN (CHRIST, you husband, you pastor), but to be in silence.

1 Timothy 2:13 For Adam (Christ) was first formed, then Eve (the WOMAN, THE CHURCH).

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam (CHRIST) was not deceived, but THE WOMAN (male or female, THE CHURCH) BEING DECEIVED was in the transgression.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding, she (THE WOMAN, male or female) SHALL BE SAVED in CHILDBEARING ...

UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN

You were PREDESTINATED to be THE IMAGE OF GOD.

THE WORDS and WORKS were finished before the foundation of the world, and GOD RESTED.

God BLESSES You with TRUTH and UNDERSTANDING.

Circular arguments on this topic remind me of an Abbott and Costello "who's on first" skit. In case anyone isn't aware, here are some scriptures describing one God with three components: father, son, and holy spirit. We likely will never 100% comprehend God nor should we expect to, but the fact is the Bible describes God as a triune Godhead, uses plural terms, says the three are "one", and I will trust God's Word over man's word. Christians will keep sharing the truth of the scriptures everytime someone tries to challenge God's word.

Godhead:

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Please read: Isaiah 26:19, Ezekiel 37:12,13, Matthew 27:50-54,

John 12:1, Romans 8, Matthew 9:18-25, Matthew 11:5, Matthew 28, Mark 9:9, Luke 24:46, John 2:22, John 5:19-29, = Matthew 25:31-46, John 11:25, John 11:39-53, John 12:9, Romans 14:9, 1Peter 4, Revelation 1:5-8,

Revelation 20,

Ephesians 5,

Hopefully these are helpful

BTW You stated That Peter's 3 Denials Of Jesus Were Only "One" Event.

But: It Was Actually 3 Separate Events: Involving 3 Different People: At 3 Separate Times. Luke 22:55-61

The Bible Doesn't Mention The Length Of The Time Spans: But There Was Probably Somewhere Around 15 Minutes To One Hour Between Each Denial.

1John 2:23 Says Whosoever Denieth The Son, The Same Hath Not The Father.

Whosoever = Simon Peter.

Simon Peter Hath Not God, The Father.

Simon Peter Is Not A Child Of The God Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob. Also:

Jesus Called Simon Peter (Satan).

Peter = Thee = Satan Matt.16:23

Do You Really Think That Satan Will Be Allowed Into The Kingdom Of Heaven?

Actually Kay:

Peter's Was "Not A Singular" Fall.

He Denied Jesus "Three" Times.

He Could Have Repented After The First Two Denials: But Didn't.

After The Third Denial: He knew That He Could No Longer Repent. That's why he went out and Wept Bitterly.

Just As Esau Wept Bitterly: When He Sold His Birthright: Because He Found "No Room For" Repentance.

Weeping Does Not Bring Repentance.

"Turning From" Wicked Ways Is Repentance. Peter "Didn't" Repent.

Peter Had 2 Opportunities To Turn From His Wicked Ways: But He Chose Not To Turn. He Denied Jesus "The Third" Time.

1 John 2:23 Whosoever Denieth The Son, The Same Hath Not The Father: But he That "Acknowledge" The Son "Hath" The Father "Also" .

Simon Peter "Denied" The Son.

Simon Peter "Hath Not" The Son

"Or" The Father.

Matt.16:23 / Mark 8:33

Jesus Said To Peter: Thou Savourest Not

The Things That Be Of God, But (Thou Savourest) Those (Things) That Be Of Men.

People Who Do Not Savour The Things Of God: Are Not Christians.

Jesus spoke john 6:70 but verse 71 is not (in red) not the words of jesus.

matt. 10:33 jesus says, whosoever shall deny me before men. him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.

"whosoever" includes simon peter.

jesus "is not" a liar.

jesus "will deny" simon peter, (getthee behind me satan)

before his father which is in heaven.

simon peter denied jesus 3x

mt.26:34&75 / mark 24:30&71-72 /

luke 22:61

1 john 2:23.whosoever denieth the son, hath not the father: but he that acknowledgeth the son hath the father also.

simon peter denied the son.3x.

simon peter hath not the father.

Hey GiGi,

Thank you, I did read your reply to Jay, I read most of your posts and others as well. I agree, it comes from the Old Roman creed that scripture supports. Over hundreds of years, it has been added to. "descended into hell" was added for an interpretation of 1 Peter 3:19-20. The one thing I do not agree with is the word "spirits" nowhere in scripture is the dead called spirits or being in prison, and it is not clear this happened while Jesus was in the tomb.

The communion of saints was added, in short, this is spiritual unity of the faithful on earth, the souls in purgatory, and the saints in heaven in the unison of the same body under Christ it's head. My understanding, there is no knowledge after death until the resurrection when Jesus returns.

The Nicene Creed and the Athanasian Creed are mainly about God as a trinity God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The first lines of the Athanasian Creed say this, "Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly"

It puts the Nicene Creed and the Athanasian Creed mandatory for salvation and I have not found any scripture that confirms this. My understanding is this puts these creeds above and before the gospel of Jesus Christ plus if we look at history, how many lives have been taken under the words anathema and heresy due to these creeds. Brings to me Nicolaitanes Jesus spoke of in Revelation. I understand the word catholic.

Jude 4 is good, one of the reasons in my heart I feel if I call Jesus God, I deny the Son, 1John 2:22 2 John 1:9 also 1 Corinthians 15:28.

I do not think you are being contrary, I appreciate your reply, we are to love and encourage each other how else can we grow. If we agree or disagree if it is in love.

God bless,

RLW

Janet D:

1 John 2:27 For the anointing that you have received of him abideth IN YOU, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The hardest thing, is THIS DYING TO SELF, and coming to TRUTH that the LIFE, IN US, IS CHRIST.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN OF GOD doth not commit sin .....he cannot sin because he is BORN OF GOD

Why can't you commit sin; because the life IN YOU IS CHRIST.

Philippians 1:27 ... this mystery .... CHRIST IN YOU .....

If you pick up a pencil, it's not you, IT'S CHRIST, if you drive the car, it's not you, it's Christ, if you help you neighbor, it' not you, it's Christ, ETC.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit (life) WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU (his body) to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements and DO THEM.

God speaks to you through HIS WORDS (the bible), the more you study, the more he speaks.

To whom much is GIVEN (the life of Christ); much more is GIVEN (the MIND OF CHRIST).

Ask and ye shall receive.

God Bless You as YOU DIE TO HIS WORDS and are GIVEN LIFE BY THOSE SAME WORDS.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

("us" is plural. God is plural.)

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

"there are three"

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"Word was God."

There is no denying this says and means the Word was God. Who is the Word? The rest of John 1 reveals who.

John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

Philippians 2:5-8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"Christ Jesus...being in the form of God"

Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

John 20:28

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

1 John 2:22-24

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."

Hey Jay,

The word creed comes from the Latin credo, "I believe." a set of beliefs of Christianity, and without believing these creeds salvation cannot be obtained. I have been told this in different denominations of churches I have gone to. "You cannot be a Christian unless you believe these creeds". Many Christian bible discussion web sites will not let you on unless you profess these creeds.

My understanding of scripture.

You must believe that God exists. Hebrews 11:6

You must believe Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.,18 6:40; 1 John 4:14-15, 5:5, 5:10

You must believe God gave His only Son for us to have eternal life John 3:16

You must believe Jesus came in the flesh 1 John 4:3 2 John 1:7

You must believe that Jesus is the Christ 1 John 2:22

You must believe Jesus died for Your sins. 1 Corinthians 15:2-3

You must believe God raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9

You must believe we are saved by Jesus' life Romans 5:10

Being baptized in the name of Jesus. Acts 2:38 Acts 8:16

You must believe we are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus 1 Corinthians 6:11

You must believe we obtain salvation only in Christ Jesus. John 14:6 2 Acts 4:12 Timothy 2:10

Are there any scriptures saying you must believe in these creeds for salvation?

Are these creeds similar to what the sect of Pharisees tried to do in Acts 15? What did Peter say? Acts 15:7-11

God is not the author of confusion. 1 Corinthians 14:33

God bless,

RLW

I have wondered how believing in the "finished work" of Christ is a doctrine of the Bible. When Christ died and said "it is finished" he could have meant a lot of things (his life was ended, his suffering was over, the sacrifice for sin was done etc.), but the Bible doesn't teach us just to believe in the "finished work". Since we live in an entitlement society I fear that we use that phrase to apply to us that we no longer have to labor in his kindgom. I listed a few of the teachings and promises of the Bible that apply to our response to his death on cross. Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. We are justified by faith (a total belief in what God has said, commanded, done etc.). Hebrews 11 the faith chapter talks of faith having a response. James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Mat. 25 has several examples of people that were lost at the end of time because they didn't do God's work even though they had a certain knowledge of Him. Faith obviously has to precede anything we do, but if time allows us to labor God expects that of us. Let's all be "wise virgins".

Hi Jasmine, you asked several questions but I will just address your first question about God plural. It's plural because God is a triune being composed of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Beware of anyone pushing their own ideology and twisting scripture in order to accomplish their desired outcome. The Bible already says what it means and because it says this about God I choose to believe it.

Here are verses describing that. God bless.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

You Do Matter,

The other day when I was reading Matthew 25:31-46, what stuck out to me, was, everyone in that moment was surprised. Some didn't think the did enough, others thought they did enough. Also Matthew 7.

Jesus rebuked the hypocrisy within the Church. He even threw over the tables of the merchandise & money. Luke 19, John 2:13-17, Mark 11, ironically this is the week many will be selling merchandise. GOD knows those who are wrongly accused, mistreated, used. Matthew 5:9-12, John 15:20,

Proverbs 18:1, 1Corinthians 12, Hopefully these are helpful.

Thanks brother. Your words, from the Word of God, ought to strike our hearts with a searing iron. It certainly does mine especially when I read some comments that are so far removed from the Truth, prompting others to believe a lie.

Many forget that the Gospel of the Cross is two-fold: one of propitiation (1 John 2:2: to provide a means for atonement & forgiveness by God, as well as to avert God's Anger against the sinner); and one requiring a response ( Romans 10:13,14). If the Gospel fails in both conditions, then there can be no salvation - we are forever lost in our sins. Though I've sought an answer to this several times in the past, without a response, I can only understand that there are some who believe in the first part (of God's Forgiveness), but the second part is almost inconsequential. And why so? For God is All-Loving, All-Forgiving, & all men will eventually be saved (a Universalism teaching). Why then the need for repentance in this life? Why did the apostles hazard their lives, even laying them down for the Gospel, if those enemies of the Cross would be changed & accepted by God in the last day? Where does the Bible ever speak about a 'second-chance salvation'? Why should the believer ever be called upon to live holy separated lives unto God if even the unrepentant will be saved?

And then some consider us as believers in a vengeful angry God. And yet we have the Scriptures: Matthew 7:13; John 3:36; Hebrews 10:31; Hebrews 12:25,29; & many more showing that here is a God Who is to be feared & none can stand guiltless in His Presence. Thank you again for bringing this to light brother - it may be that others will be able to differentiate between the true & false Gospels.

Dear brother

1 John 3:9 doesn't mean what you are implying that a Christian cannot sin. The translation in English is a bit unfortunate here. The Greek text doesn't say "do not commit sin" but says "cannot sinning", present continuous. This means that a born again person cannot stay in sin, cannot live a sinful life NOT that he can't sin. We all sin but have the Blood of Christ to be forgiven. To understand that please read 1 John 1:8-10 and 1 John 2:1-2

GBU

Hello Richard, Those Israelites good ol' boys just could not stick with God's explicit commands to refrain from taking wives from the idolatrous nations surrounding them. It seems that both male and female Israelites were very easily swayed by the "customs" of the surrounding pagans and repeatedly fell into idolatry despite having the history of God's miraculous deliverances (through the waters and from attackers), providence (manna and quail), displays of God's presence (pillar of fire and cloud, glory filling the tabernacle, Mount Sinai "shock and awe"), the giving of the Law. This makes me think that the ways (and women) of the pagans must have been very alluring.

This makes me think how people can become so enamored and intrigued by "exotic" or "new" trends. This is true in the church as well. These "baubles" can make our daily walk in godliness and fellowship with the Spirit seem somewhat "boring", especially when we are called to live a quiet and godly lifestyle. But I haven't really minded what most would consider boring, because I love to follow God's ways. I find them satisfying. But we live in a culture that glorifies risk taking behavior (rock climbing, extreme sports) and fancy, shiny celebrity lifestyles. But as believers, I think it is wise to heed what Jesus taught about being in the world but not of the world, so to speak ( John 17:15, 18)

And Paul says for us to not be conformed to the world, but to be transformed.. ( Romans 12:2) and John says to love not the world or the things of the world... which is passing away...but he who does the will of the God abides forever (1 John 2:15-17)

And we are told by Peter to lives such good lives among the pagans .. ( 1 Peter 2:11-12) as we should live like sojourners.

Unlike the Israelites, let's hope we do better to resist worldliness and pagan influences.

James 1:5-7, 1John 2:27,

Richard, not only is Revelation a parable, it is also signified.

Revelation 15:8 And the TEMPLE (you) was filled with the smoke from the glory of God, and HIS POWER .....

John 2:19 Destroy this temple (Christ came as sinful flesh, that temple (sinful flesh) had to be destroyed) and in three days I will raise IT (the new TEMPLE)(the new BODY (dwelling place) OF CHRIST)(we, the body, were raise up with Christ as the new TEMPLE).

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and Holy is he that has his part in the first resurrection ....

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE OF GOD (filled with his glory and HIS POWER)......

Revelation 15:8 .......and no man was able to enter into the TEMPLE (the new BODY OF CHRIST) until the seven plaques of the seven angels be fulfilled.

The Father pour out, on Christ, those seven LAST plaques (the wrath of God).

Revelation 15:1 ....seven angels having the seven LAST plaques, which are the wrath of God.

Man CAN NOW enter into the TEMPLE (the Body of Christ), because the wrath of God that we deserved, was poured out on Christ.

We are that BODY OF CHRIST where GOD dwells and Christ sits at his right hand.

GBU

Hi Evelyn.

Genesis 3:15. is very a pivotal verse.

It establishes the parameters by which God will redeem His people from their sin.

The seed of the woman is Christ.

The seed of the serpent can be the Antichrist or much broader. "ALL that is ANTI-CHRIST as mentioned in 1 John 2:18.

All the prophesies concerning the coming of Christ centers around this verse. Also Christ deity is presented here. "The seed of the woman". Biologically the seed is of the man. And also geneogically the seed of the man is always mentioned biblically. but Christ had no earthly father. This is amplified in Isaiah 7:14. This is Gods foresight!

This presents the second Adam mentioned in 1st. Cor 15:45. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam a quickening spirit.

What Satan took away from the first Adam, "Dominion over all the earth"

Genesis 1:26.

The last Adam "Jesus" Redeemed it and us by way of the cross. lifting the curse. Romans 8:19-23.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

1 John 2:27

"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

The scripture does state the anointing of God, teaches us all things. We can know all things if we abide in the "Anointing." John the Baptists," was an anointed prophet of God, and Spirit filled. He wasn't sinless or perfect, yet he didn't live a life of sin and imperfection. He operated on a different level, and on the level and Spirit of Elijah.

The Anointing teaches us of all things," that's the key and what we as Christians need always remember.