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1 John 1:7 continued:
And that's what happens with a believer. The moment that you receive Christ, you are cleansed and forgiven for all of your sins.
But we're still out in the world during the day. We need our "walk" cleansed. There's still some stain from the world and its influence that is running interference in our relationship with the Lord.
At the beginning of John Chapter 15, Jesus told the disciples that you are cleansed through the word which "I have" spoken unto you, indicating that everything Jesus said to them, they were in the process of being cleansed every time He talked to them.
So it's interesting, if we walk in the light "as" He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ "is" cleansing, continuously, us from all sin.
1 John 3:6, Whoever abides in Him, that is, in the Lord, does not sin:
Wow! A Christian does not sin according to the scriptures. Please let me explain.
Again, the word abides is a Present Participle, (abiding). Whoever has Him abiding "is" Present Tense, not sinning, (continuously) as a habit of life.
We're not talking about committing an act of sin. We're talking about committing sin continuously, a lifestyle of not surrendering to Christ.
But this is a condition. Whoever is continuously remaining in Him, does not practice sin, ever! I can never go back and live the old lifestyle I lived before I received Christ. It's impossible.
In contrast: Whoever sins, and again that's a Participle. Whoever is continuously sinning has not seen Him, neither have they known Him. That's a pretty bold statement to make!
I will send a Part 3 (final part, I promise!) and give you my understanding of 1 John 1:10
I can share with you my understanding of the verses you gave. I think this might help.
In 1 John 1:7, But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another,
But notice this:
While we are having this fellowship, and He is the light, right? The blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. That's partly what happens in fellowship when we're in His word. He brings conviction.
The psalmist in Psalm 119 also said that God's word is a lamp unto his feet. God's word is a light. And whenever we're under the influence of the Holy Spirit in our study of the word of God, God brings conviction because He shines the light and brings conviction.
But notice this: The blood of Jesus Christ His Son, first of all, is cleansing. It shows a continuous action.
Secondly, notice what he says: Us! He didn't say you. He said us. He's including himself. Whenever we have fellowship together in the light, as we walk in the light as God is the light, He is cleansing us.
Jesus didn't just die for my sins on the cross, and die so I would be forgiven, and I'm forgiven once. I'm forgiven for all of my sins. But Jesus left us a teaching in John Chapter 13.
Remember when He washed the disciple's feet. He took a towel, and got down and did the slave servant duties, and began to wash the disciple's feet.
And when He came to Peter, Peter said you're not going to wash my feet. I should be washing your feet. You're the Lord. So Jesus tells Peter, if you don't let me wash your feet, you have no part with me.
So Peter says "Give me a bath then!"
And Jesus says no, you don't need that either. Once you have been totally cleansed, all you need is your feet washed.
And that's what happens with a believer. The moment that you receive Christ, you are cleansed and forgiven for all of your sins.
But we're still out in the world during the day. We need our "walk" cleansed.
I'm out of space so I will send a part 2
Any thoughts?
"Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him." 1 John 3:6 KJV
"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." 1 John 1:10 KJV
"And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him." 1 John 2:28-29
"Abide" is an action. Some translations say "continue" or "remain" or "keep" in Him. This makes it seem like its a choice and freewill to follow Jesus. That it won't be forced upon you against your will, or that it won't be done for you.
"He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4 KJV
Some say those who already know and follow Jesus have no choice but to be perfect and sinless and don't need to do anything, can even love the world, ( 1 John 2:15) but is that true?
"If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" 1 John 1:6 KJV
Some people assume they are Christians and Christ followers- saved and done and don't have to do anything, because book of life, and all that stuff, right? They think they can stop following Christ and have fun in the world and still get invited to heaven. But the above verse makes it conditional, if you do this, then... But another if... 1 John 1:9.
2 Peter 3:17 - How could someone who already assumes he's saved fall from his secure position like this verse says?
2 Peter 3:14 - It says to make an effort to be spotless and blameless, but some people are claiming that effort is bad, and not making effort is good. So one side is true and one side is false. Man vs. God's word. Who will I choose to believe?
Hello Jesse, and GiGi
Most of the apostles were John's disciples before joining Jesus. In that incident just before Pentecost when the apostles were to choose another disciple in Judas' place, Peter said to the rest of them, ( Acts 1:21-22) "Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, BEGINING FROM THE BAPTISM OF JOHN, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.". Some like Matthew were not John's disciples, but I suppose a large number of them were. Surely Peter, Andrew, John, James (the incident in the sea of Galilee), also Phillip and Nathanael ( John 1:45-52). So at least 6 out 12.
Were they baptized John's baptism?
In Luke 7:29-30 Jesus said to Pharisees, "And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.".
Also in Luke 3:3 says, "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;"
So it was the counsel of God Hebrews to be baptized (how about the christian baptism?). Also it was for the remission of sins. So it was something so important that John's disciples had to do. Once John baptized others even Jesus, didn't he baptize his own disciples? So they were all baptized John's baptism.
Where they baptised the christian baptism later on? In Acts 19: 4-5 when Paul meets those disciples in Ephessus told them, "Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." So all had to be baptised again in the name of Jesus. So as a conclusion the apostles were baptized both tJohn's and the christian baptism.
Jesus certainly was overseeing some baptizing.
If you take those verses you presented chronologically I believe it explains itself.
John 3:22-26. "After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
For John was not yet cast into prison.
Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.
And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him."
Then in John 4:1-2 the Pharisees took notice of this but verse 2 explains it.
Vs 2. ( Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
John's ministry was about up.
"There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. John 1:6-8."
John was to present the one in the loins of Abraham prophesied to come into the world in the OT.
John the baptist baptism was for Israel to turn/repent from Judaism.
Luke 1:16-17.
Malachi 4:5-6.
He announced one coming for the lost sheep of Israel.
God bless.
Stay strong i love u in Christ look in 1 John 1:5 and Luke 24:28-31
1 Corintians 15:55-57
Jesus light is in all of us who belive in Him.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Titus 1:2 ...God cannot lie...
God has promised to forgive each and every one of our sins--and He CANNOT lie.
May I suggest you form the habit of daily devotions? James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.
Some of us like to cherry pick our way through the scriptures; but if we look at the whole history of man; the nation of Israel and even the church in the New Testament there are many problems and snares that were in Paul's time in the early church; and prophetically were warned about by Paul; Peter and Timothy as well as John in Revelation and James as well in regard to the last days. We need to both appreciate the fact that we need to walk the straight and narrow path that few find ( Matthew 7:14); and yet not be Pharisitical in inventing the narrowest most difficult path of legalism that heads to hell. In the whole subject and as much as can be understood about predestination and whatever free choices man is given while on this earth as to his life; in the end a certain number are saved and also lost. We can say with some confidence that as Jesus stated
"you shall know them by their fruits". ( Matthew 7:15-20). There are numerous passages describing these; which are summarized in Galatians 5:22. Bad fruits such as listed in Mark 7:21 are things which the Spirit should be weeding out of our lives.
However; when it becomes clear in the long term where one's affiliations lie; we can't make the mistake of sins; even some recurring ones as proving someone isn't saved. This is where the Lord will use a rebuke to work on someone; ultimately people in the faith need to listen to the Lord as He refines and chastises them. 1 John 1:8-10 make it pretty clear that none of us even if saved are without sin; or haven't sinned in years as some like to proudly proclaim. There are clearly some much more advanced intheir maturity than others; closer to the prize. Some are more "carnal" than others; it doesn't excuse continuing that way but again we hopefully learn not to do certain things after being a believer 20 years than say 3 weeks. Saying that he confesses us as called and chosen is needed along with whatever we may proclaim.
This being the Sunday where we honor Jesus' Resurrection; I don't want to delve too deeply into a new subject of controversy to stimulate discussion. I am planning; Lord willing to tackle the topic of "once saved; always saved" in terms of what (in the correct sense) that means; and what it doesn't mean. Ephesians 2:6-7 seems to indicate that we are in some sense "already raised" with Him; and glorification seems to be the final result of a saved individual after glorification according to Romans 8:30. That also; BTW matches up with John 3:16 with an ongoing (as the Greek indicates) process; rather than someone who believes in a mere confession never dying. These verses fit into the first concept that those who are called and chosen have what we may call undue "favor" on their lives; preserved on this earth until in time and space a verbal confession and change of heart occurs ( Romans 10:9). Also it is a continuing process of sanctification; resulting in good fruit being produced. I will fill in more scripture later on based on that topic.
A basic stumbling block is those who say that any sin can make us disqualified to enter heaven. 1 John 1:10 should be a clear rebuttal of that; and Paul's letters to the Corinthians who clearly were manifesting "carnal" behavior as well as other warnings about losing reward and getting into heaven as though through the fire ( 1 Cor. 3:15) show that there is a more complex theology involving not just the saved and lost but those who are at various levels in their walk. It appears; however that those who are exposed to any truth are held accountable and judged in a harsher manner ( Matt. 11:21 for example).
There are many sections of scripture such as large portions of Hebrews which are very challenging; my Dake's Bible has many hundreds of verses that make it seem we can lose our salvation; some of which are more easily refuted than others.
WE are saved yet by FIRE ---- 1 Corinthians 3:13
Our God is a consuming FIRE ---- Hebrews 12:29
God is the WORD --- the word is GOD ---- John 1:1
I will baptise YOU with the HOLY GHOST and FIRE
You are BORN AGAIN by the WORD of GOD
Every time we read and study the WORD we are being judged and baptised with the FIRE OF THE LORD
FIRE is the judgement of GOD
Psalms 37:28 For the Lord loveth JUDGEMENT ....
2 Corinthians 5:10 .... we all must appear before he judgement seat .....
1 Peter 4:17 For the TIME IS COME that JUDGEMENT must begin at the HOUSE of the LORD
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ --- the WORD --- the SEED ---- the FIRE ---who is a son over his OWN HOUSE, whose House we are ...
The WORD of GOD is the FIRE OF GOD
And they were CAST ALIVE into the lake of fire --- the JUDGING WORD'S of GOD ----
You are save and born again by FIRE and WATER --- the living fire and the living water ---- the LAKE of FIRE ----
God bless you.
1 John 1:5
"This then is the message which we have heard of Him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all."
Habakkuk 1:13
"Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on in iniquity,"
God is pure. There is no hint of evil, sin, or wickedness. He is absolutely sinless, forever righteous, always holy. He separates from Himself anything that offends Him through sin, iniquity, and evil.
Even though this is true, He made a way for sinful mankind to be received into His presence. This was to incarnate the Son and live among us who are sinful and in a world corrupted by sin. This was done out of His love and desire to save us. His Son, Jesus, became man to live a perfect, sinless life for us and to give Himself as a perfect sacrifice for our sins. He exchanged our sinfulness with His righteousness on the cross. He put our sins away from us and from the Father as far as the east is from the west, to be remembered no more by God. He took the Father's wrath of the offense of our sin for us, so that we can be delivered from the wrath of God in the life to come.
How great God is, who cannot look upon evil because of His purity, but at the same time can come to live among us to be the only sacrifice that would satisfy the wrath of God and release us from our sins. This is one of the many paradoxes concerning God.
So, in light of this, how then are we to live?
-by faith
-by trust
-by gratitude
-by humility
-in godliness
-in holiness
-in the truth
-in His love
-in fellowship with Him
-through His grace
-through His mercy
-through knowledge of Him
Advocate 1 John 2:1
Shephard & Bishop of souls I Peter 2:25
Man of sorrows Isa 53.3
Judge Acts 10:42
Faithful and True Witness Rev 3:14
Head of the Church Eph 5:23
Rock 1 Corth 10:4
High Priest Heb 6:20
Master Matt 8:19
Living Water John 4:10
Rose of Sharon Song of Solomon 2:1
Alpha and Omega Rev 22:13
Lamb of God John 1:29 Messiah Daniel 9:25
Mediator I Tim 2:5
Teacher John 3:2
Author and Finisher of our Faith Heb 12:2
Image of the invisible God Col 1:15
Everlasting Father Isa 9:6
The Word John 1:1
Holy One Mark 1:24
Light of the world John 8:12
Lion of the tribe of Judah Rev 5: 5
LORD OF LORDS I Tim 6:15
The Beloved Eph 1:6
Carpenter Mark 6:3 The Almighty Rev 21:
Shiloh Gen 49:10
The Way, the Truth and The Life John 14:16
Bright and Morning Star Rev 22:16
Good Shepherd John 10:11
Son of Man Matt 20:28
Only Begotten Son John 3:16
King Of Kings 1 Tim 6:15
Prince of Peace Isa 9:6
Bridegroom Matt 9:15
Dayspring Luke 1:78
Saviour of the world Eph 5:23
Immanuel Luke 1:78 & Matt 1:23
Wonderful Counselor Isa 9:6
I AM John 8:58
The Door John 10:9
The True Vine John 15:1
King of the Jews Mark 15:26
Prophet Matt 21:11
Redeemer Job 19:25
Saviour Isa 45:15 , John 42:2, 1 Tim 4:10
The Amen Rev 3:14
The Living God
Anchor Heb 6:19
The BRANCH Zech 6:12
Bread of Life John 6:15
The Resurrection & Life John 11.25
The Living God, who is the Saviour of all men,
The written word; through BELIEF of those written words, BECOMES the LIVING WORD:
The WORD of God is the SEED
Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of GOD.
John 1:1 In the beginning was THE WORD (the seed), and THE WORD (the seed) was with God, and THE WORD (the seed) was God.
The WRITTEN words are just a WITNESS, of the LIVING WORD.
John 1:14 And THE WORD was made flesh .....
Romans 8:3 God (the Word, the SEED) sending his own son (the WORD, the SEED) as SINFUL FLESH ....
ALL FLESH (the WORD, THE SEED became flesh) died on the Cross with CHRIST: ALL FLESH arose a NEW CREATION (the WORD, the SEED)
Psalms 12:6 The WORDS (YOU, all men; the new creation, by the WORKS of the resurrection) are pure (living) WORDS: as silver TRIED in the furnace of earth (you were first made of dust), purified seven times (this is speaking of the living WORD (YOU) not the written WORD (the letters of the law).
The WRITTEN WORD has to become the LIVING WORD.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible SEED (sinful flesh), but incorruptible, by the (living WORD, made known by the written) WORD OF GOD, with liveth and abideth forever.
Isaiah 59:21 As for me (God the WORD, the SEED), this is my covenant with them (the new creation in Christ, by his resurrection), My spirit that I have put upon THEE (CHRIST), and my (living) WORDS that I have put in thy (Christ's) mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed (the WORD), nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED (the WORD) forever.
God bless you.
(Part 3):
Paul writes on the same subject, in Galatians 5:17, "For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are opposing to one another; in order that you should not do what you want." These scriptures show that believers cannot be taken away from Christ by the flesh, because the Spirit of God is dwelling within to prevent that from happening.
Jesus Himself said, as recorded in John 6:37, "All that the Father gives to me will come to me; and the one coming to me I will never cast out." He goes on to say, in John 6:39, "And this is the will of the Father who has sent me, in order that of all which he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up in the last day."
Also, in His prayer to the Father, as recorded in John 17:11-12, Jesus said, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given to me, in order that they may be one, as we are. When I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in your name; the ones who you have given to me I kept, and none of them perished, except the son of perdition; in order that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
I emphasize the permanency of salvation because the bible teaches that God is the one who saves, and He does so from out of His mercy. According to Paul, in Ephesians 2:8, grace, faith, and salvation are gifted from God. John says, in John 1:13, believers "were born, not from blood, nor from the will of the flesh, nor from the will of man, but from God." Therefore, according to Scripture, a human being cannot save him/herself.
Part 2.
The substance of the material for the furniture of the Tabernacle was different in the Holy Place. In the outer court, brass was the prevailing material since it had to do with the judgment of sin. In the Holy Place, gold was the material that predominated. This was no accident or chance occurrence. Gold was the only object that set forth in such a visible way the deity of Christ. Two objects of furniture, the lampstand and the mercy seat, were made entirely of gold.
The lampstand was the perfect symbol of Christ as the Son of God:
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ( John 1:9)
He was a "light of the Gentiles" ( Isaiah 42:6). Had He been philanthropic and had not come out of God, He would have been merely another teacher "that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge" ( Job 38:2). He would have only added another ethical system to the already multitudinous and multifarious systems, and He would have been but the harbinger of darkness "through philosophy and vain deceit" ( Colossians 2:8). But as the Son of God, He "is light, and in him is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5).
The lampstand was handmade of beaten work and was highly ornamented. There was a central shaft with three branches on a side, making seven branches in all. Each branch contained three sections, each section being beaten into the shape of an almond blossom and a knop. On top of each shaft was an open almond blossom. On each of these were placed the olive oil lamps.
See part 3.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
God bless.
The problem is--the sin, if you will--is that those accidental sins can become deliberate. Some of them become our pet sins. We may hate them but they give us pleasure and are habit-forming and we just keep on doing this. This stunts our growth in Christ. You cannot continuously commit deliberate sin and expect to live a joyful, victorious, life in Christ.
Repent of those sins right now and determine never to do them again with Christ's help--ask Him, and He will help you, but repenting is up to you.
Establish a special, lone time of devotion to our Lord, as I mentioned above. Stay faithful to Him. Go to a Gospel-preaching church. Serve others. Tythe. Stay repented of your sins...
Psalms 1
1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
God Bless!
The shed blood of Jesus Christ is the most important factor of all 66 books of the Bible
The wages of sin is death.
Romans 6:23.
There's no remission of sins without the shedding of blood.
Hebrews 9:22.
Jesus took our sins upon himself and cleansed and sanctified us.
Hebrews 13:12.
Christ died the sacrificial death for the whole world.
John 1:29.
John 3:15-17.
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Feel free to msg back if you have any more questions.
God bless.
I know that those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses have their erroneous understanding of Colossians 1:15, "Who (i.e. Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature". The Greek word for 'firstborn' is 'prototokos' and when written of Jesus, it applies to His preeminence & highest rank of all creation, though He Himself was never created, because He was "begotten of the Father" ( John 1:14). Whereas the JW reads Colossians 1:15 as, "the first created of every creature"; removing the 'prototokos' & replacing it with 'protokitses'. This error then substantiates their belief that Jesus was merely a created Being from God, thereby nullifying His Divinity.
And we see this word, 'firstborn' appearing elsewhere in the New Testament, when referring to Jesus:
Romans 8:29: "firstborn among many brethren", referring to Jesus' preeminence as the 'elder Brother' of His many brethren, the Church. And it also speaks of Jesus' as being wholly Divine yet Him merging with humanity, thus the incarnate God becoming the 'first' in line of this new creation: i.e. we who are now His brothers & sisters have been given His Spirit to indwell us, making us a new creation in Christ Jesus (God's Spirit now residing in man)": 2 Corinthians 5:17.
Colossians 1:18: "firstborn from the dead". This means that Jesus was the first to rise from the dead with a resurrection Body & it will be when our bodies will be resurrected as His was - but He was our Forerunner in the resurrection. Though Lazarus & the many saints arose from the grave, they weren't given their new glorified bodies.
I hope this little extra study helps you Errol.
After reading your posts, I will add this Scripture section:
John 1:1-4, 14
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made. In Him was life...
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld His glory, the glory of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth."
These verses say that Jesus was the Word with the Father and is God long with the Father, being His begotten Son, not made, but all things were made through Jesus.
Then it says the the Word became flesh and dwelt on earth with men who are physical beings.
You deny this about Jesus.
If Jesus was only a Spirit then He did not truly die nor shed His blood for the forgiveness of sins. So if you believe He is only a Spirit, then you deny his saving sacrifice of his fleshly life for us to bring forgiveness of sins, reconcile us to the Father, and give us eternal life.
Your beliefs deny two of the most essential beliefs of the Christian faith. Therefore, I will say that you are not a Christian and you are not saved.
If you think life is unreal, then you are an illusion and not real. And so there was not reason for Jesus to die for something that is not a reality. And if your physical life is not a reality, then everything about your life, your thoughts actions, feelings, words, are all non-existent, too. So, how is this non-existence, One eighty?
You are very fooled by your philosophy. It is not Christian by any stretch of the imagination. So, I urge you to be open to the thought that you may be in grave error and in jeopardy of spending eternity separated from God in a real physical lake of fire to receive God's wrath forever.
I am sorry to have to say this to you. But your own words have shown where you stand before Jesus our Lord, and it is not in the way of salvation.
Psalms is the words of Christ: 2 Samuel 23:1-2
Psalms 82:6 I (Christ) have SAID, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
Jesus himself QUOTED his OWN prophecy.
John 10:35 If HE (the spirit of prophecy) CALLED them (the children of resurrection) gods, unto whom the WORD OF GOD CAME, and the scripture CAN NOT be BROKEN.
Jesus is telling the Pharisees, they read and study the scriptures, but have no knowledge of their TRUE MEANING, very little has changed TODAY.
John 1:5 And the light shineth into darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.
You say Psalms 82:6 means gods of this world, antichrist, sons of predition
Let's see what happens to this scripture when we apply it to mean as you define it.
I (Christ) have SAID, ye are gods (antichrist, sons of perdition, Satan, gods of this world), THE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH.
Let's apply your definition to some other scriptures.
Deuteronomy 10:7 For the Lord your God is a God of gods (sons of perdition, gods of this world, antichrist)
Joshua 22:22 The Lord God of gods (gods of this world, sons of perdition, antichrist), the Lord God of gods ...
I hope you rethink what you are saying about GOD'S WORDS.
Could it possibly be your not rightly dividing God's Word, maybe Paul was talking about something completely opposite to what Christ was Prophesying.
My rebuttal is ALSO in LOVE.
Does the church you attend preach the KINGDOM of God, or is it like most churches and preaches heaven and hell?
God Bless YOU!
Are you saying you better than Judas, and you are not a son of perdition.
If the son of perdition is describing a single antichrist; then the antichrist was Judas, and the antichrist has already come; IF 2 Thessalonians 2:3 ....the son of predition is also describing antichrist; then there would be 2 antichrist.
The son of perdition is describing all the antichrist, NOT JUST ONE.
2 John 1:7 ....ye have heard that antichrist shall come, EVEN NOW there are many ANTICHRIST ----sons of perdition ---
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceiver you by any means: for THAT DAY --- 2 Thessalonians 2:8 ---the day the lord consumes you ---destroys YOU --- the son of perdition --- with the brightness of HIS COMING ---his PRESENCE IN YOU ---and there first must come a FALLING AWAY ---what have you got to fall away from ----- your deception ---- an repent of what you believe --- the son of perdition is not someone else IT'S YOU ---- it's any person reading God's word --- the word's of God are for whoever is reading those words --- it's about revealing the KINGDOM to the person reading.
If you judge yourself by GOD'S WORD, you want be judged with the world.
Antichrist is any and everything that isn't Christ --- the word of God --- all the beliefs contrary to God's word.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who CONFESS NOT Jesus is COME in the FLESH, this is a deceiver and an a antichrist.
Have you confessed that Christ is come, by HIS resurrection, and now lives IN YOU --- YOUR flesh ---- or are you still deceived and an antichrist needing to have your carnal mind destroyed.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU (your flesh) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Are YOU:
2 Thessalonians 2:4 ... so that he (the son of perdition) sitteth in the temple of God ---- YOUR the temple of God ----so whose on the throne ---Christ, or the son of perdition ----If it's YOU then get back on the cross.
God Bless YOU!
FOR THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY DOTH ALREADY WORK:
I believe 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 can be useful in giving us insight on understanding other scriptures and that insight might in return give us more understanding of 2 Thessalonians 2
Such as Revelation 16:8-11 and Revelation 17:12-14. This evil mindset can only be accomplished if the Holyspirit role has changed in a way that it's not functioning today.
Even non believers wouldn't behave in this manner while the restrainer is present.
Here in Revelation 16 and 17 you see the true condition of man's heart apart from the restraint of the Holyspirit.
Even non believers will repent but turn back.
John 1:9 must won't apply during this time.
This is what happens when darkness is manifested in man.
In 2 Thessalonians 2 on one hand we see the eschatology view and on the other hand we see the condition of man's heart without God's spirit.
I believe the Holyspirit spirit will be in the world as he was in the OT bringing people to Christ.
God bless you Brother.
HI Things to remember when you make your vows before God.
1.Serve God with fear and trembling for He made us and not we, so we are in His creating and when we pray, we enter into his presence.
2.All the vows that you make is being recorded by an angle and one day we will give an account of each man's words.
3.When you pray BeCareful for your mouth will cause you to sin if you fail to pay your vows before God
4.Don't fail to pay your vows and cause God to destroy the works of your hands.
It's written in
( Ecclesiastes 5:4-6 kjv)
4.When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
5. Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.
6. Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands
pray to God to give you understanding Amen
Hi
Please Pray for understanding which Cames from God.
Remember its written in James 1:8 a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
So, when you came to the alter to pray you are communicating with God and God does hear our prayers.
Remember Cornelius when he was in his room Praying and an angle appeared to him to and said.
(Your Prayers have been Heard)
Acts 10:31
31 and said, 'Cornelius, your prayer has been heard, and your [a]alms are remembered in the sight of God.
As indicated by the word of God, our Prayers are heard and God takes our prayers seriously, In the book of Hebrews we see that the prophets prayed by faith and God answered their Prayers and Shut heavens and no rain poured for three years.
So, it's important when one makes a vow before God to be able to perform it by fulfilling what you have told God you will do.
(For teaching purposes)
For example, a young man once prayed before God and ask God to help him go to a foreign country and he will preach the Gospel to the world. Within few days or weeks God answered His prayers and opened that chance to happen. Now that young man had received his request and one day God opened the chance for His word to be preached around the world though that young man.
Now if this young man preaches the gospel, he will perform his vows Before God. but if he fails to do so then he will be a fool who has not kept his word before God, and a double minded man unstable in his way.
Its also important to note that God is faithful who will also do it.
So while Praying before God be sure what you request you will do it, or else do ask if you know you will be unable to pay your vows before God.
We are the exactness of Christ, and the kingdom is VERY PHYSICAL; just not the physical that the eye of flesh can see.
We are still with CHILD until we depart this body (the RAPTURE, gathered one by one).
Then we PUT ON CHRIST; not only immortal LIFE, but also an omnipresent BODY.
Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the new creation) DIED ANYMORE: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS (omnipresent); and are the CHILDren of GOD, being the CHILDren of the Resurrection.
THE MAN Jesus Christ ....is the BODY of the of the HOLY GHOST ...... OMNIPRESENT ....He is THE ANGEL .... we don't give up our body, we just exchange the MORTAL for the IMMORTAL (the RAPTURE).
Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY ...... ONE SPIRIT .....
John 17:22 And the glory that thou GAVEST ME, I have GIVEN to THEM (the new CHILD), that they may be ONE even as we are ONE.
John 1:51 ....hereafter (the resurrection) you shall see (not with the physical eye) heaven open (the BODY of man) and the angels ascending and descending of the Son of man (the new creation)---- CHRIST IN YOU ----
Isaiah 60:22 And a little one (Christ) shall BECOME a THOUSAND, a small one (Christ) a STRONG NATION (Israel).
God Bless YOU!
Matthew 17:12 says, but I say unto you, that Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they willed. Likewise shall they do to the Son of man, He shall suffer these things.
So Jesus said, indeed Elijah shall come first and restore all things, and that Elijah is come already. Very confusing, and that doesn't answer any questions. He will come and he has come. I'm sure the disciples are going Huh?
In John 1:21, the religious leaders sent delegates out to John's baptism and they asked him who are you? John says I'm not the Christ. In Verse 21, they said are you Elijah? And he said, no.
In Matthew 11:14, we see that John sent his disciples to ask Jesus a question, are you the Messiah or do we look for another?
And after His disciples left, He told the crowd that if you can receive it, John the Baptist is Elijah which was to come. What a lot of confusion here!
The key is found in Luke 1:17 when the angel Gabriel was speaking to Zacharias and he said that when John comes, he will come in the spirit and power of Elijah.
So he will not be Elijah the person, but he will have the same spirit and the same ministry as Elijah. Now what that means is that Elijah has come, but he as a person will come in the future.
And many, including myself, hold that in the book of Revelation, one of the two witnesses that witness in Jerusalem during the tribulation is Elijah coming to introduce the coming of Christ.
Both he and the other witness perform the same miracles and signs as Moses and Elijah did. But Elijah the person will come first.
That's why every year at the Passover meal, a Jewish family will leave an empty chair at the Passover table. It's because they believe that Passover time is when Elijah is going to come and announce the second coming of Christ. So they leave a chair vacant for him.
Very interesting how Jewish customs line up with things we study in scripture!
I hope this helps!
You may want to very carefully consider the verses below. If you are suggesting that God somehow speaks direct to us in a voice or a dream or a vision or a tongue once the Bible was completed, you are walking on very dangerous ground based on Rev 20:18,19.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.