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Psalms 23 Comment...
"Hi Douglas Grahame ,ive not heard of the book of mary however , i believe that the only person who could have told Luke all the details about Jesus birth and early life would have been Mary , who else would have been able to tell Luke so many little details ?" View & Reply
Matthew 28 Comment...
"Earl Bowman ,wow ,thankyou for that powerful message ,it struck me like a bolt of lightening ." View & Reply
Hebrews 1:3 Who (Christ) being the brightness of his (the Father's) glory, and the express image of His (the Father's) person, and upholding all things by the word of his (the Father's) power, when he (Christ) by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on High.
Revelation 3:14 ....The beginning of creation....
Christ was the FIRST MAN and he is GOD. The beginning (the first man) and the ending (the last man).
Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, is it not WRITTEN in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom (CHRIST IN YOU) the word of God came unto; and the scripture cannot be broken;
Christ is CREATING Sons of God; exactly like him, when he is finished we will be gods just as he is.
Romans 8:29 ....To be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU which was ALSO IN Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.
The saints cannot rule and judge the world without being EXACTLY like God.
Isaiah 32:1 Behold a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.
Even though we become sons and daughters through spiritual re-birth, we are not called the begotten of God. Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father. The word begotten in the Greek text means unique. Jesus Christ is the only unique one from the Father.
John 1:18 is quite a statement. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, and again the word begotten means unique. The only one who is in human form that represents God, the only begotten Son which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
It is the relationship of the Word to the representative of God to man. First of all, nobody has ever seen God at any time. Nobody! The only one, the only unique one who has come from God, who is in the Father's bosom, another word of equality, He and the Father are one which He says John 10:31.
He, that is Jesus Christ, He has declared God. The word for declared is EXEGESITO. That is where we get our word exegesis from. An exegete is somebody who takes something apart and declares in detail the facts about a subject.
So there are the three principles concerning Jesus Christ: in existence, in equality, and in essence.
The only begotten Son (Existed) in the bosom of the Father.
(Equality) - bosom of the Father means that He is one with him.
And thirdly, (Essence) - God in human form.
In other words, if anybody wants to know about God, they go to Jesus Christ. He is not just a prophet. He's not just a rabbi. In the Christian faith and Biblical Christianity, He is God in the flesh, 100% God, 100% man!
You said: "They are three in one, not three different persons."
See, what prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.
1 John 5:v. 7 - There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father (GOD, the Father), the Word (the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language), but a Person - the Comforter): and these three are One.
JESUS said: I and my Father are One- John 10:v.30. Two distincts Persons, but both are One.
Concerning the Person of the Holy Spirit (he is not a ghost as is written in English language), JESUS said: John 16:v.12-15: - 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for He shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that He shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Matthew 11:v.27 - No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son,
and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
In order to know if God is speaking to you, you must first know God. Being saved is the first step, but you still need to know of God. Know His character, His Truths, His attributes; then you will know if you are hearing from God of the Scripture. John 10: 24-27
True believers can know the Truth, because you've studied the Truth in scripture.
To know counterfeit money, you must study the real money. Then you will be able to know the fake, because you know the true money.
Know Jesus, know the Truth. No Jesus, No truth.
If you believe the Bible where it says the "three are one" then, the answer is yes.
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
Here's other supporting scripture too:
Genesis 1:26
John 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
John 1:1
Philippians 2:5 - 2:8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
1 John 5:7
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 5:8
1 John 2:22-24
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Beware of creative people who will try to either disregard or 'reinterpret' all the above scripture in attempt to get it to mean something else. In searching our conscience, deep down we already know what "the father and I are one" and the "three are one" means. We should all ask God directly for wisdom in understanding the scriptures and to reveal and confirm His truths to us, so we aren't deceived or mislead by false teachers. James 1:5. 1 Timothy 4:1-2.
"Why was the book of Revelation written? Obviously it is a part of the divine message of salvation for us, from God. Why is its message veiled? It is a message from Christ, and even durning, His brief stay here upon the earth, He sometimes veiled His message. "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing they might not see and hearing they might not understand" Luke 8:10 .
I wonder how many Christians are like me. Before helping with this present work, I used to never read Revelation. Oh, the first three and last two chapters, perhaps, but the bulk of it I never bothered with. It seemed just too deep, too hard to get anything out of it. But then why is it in the New Testament? Hopefully, this present work will stimulate many who have that same attitude to search for wisdom contained in the last book of the beloved Bible. It may not be easy; Revelation is meat not milk.
Read the book, read Revelation, then read again. We do well to heed what the Spirit says, " My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" John 10:27 ."
He also left this testimony before he died in 2005, "It is helpful to picture each chapter of the Book of Revelation as a room belonging to a house. As each room has its use, the furniture, appliances, and utilities are in harmony with that room. When these objects are identified and associated with each room, they become fixed in our memory. We can then remember what objects are in each room (chapter). As we move through the house, we begin to see how different objects, or parts thereof, relate to each other."
My brother by his understanding as a born again Christian believed by the scriptures, while time in earth remains, a present reign in Jesus Christ.
:)
A couple interesting things the Holy Spirit has led me to today studying the Scriptures.
One thing just interesting was that is was a "sin", or not allowed, for a high priest to rend his clothes. Leviticus 21:10. As the high priest is said to have done in Mark 14:63.
On a more divine note that in the OT in Joel 2:32 stating "whosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be delivered/saved". Speaking of YHWH Almighty God. In Romans 10:13 almost the same words though now speaking of Christ. John 10:30,
Have a Blessed day brother Earl.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, SAITH GOD, I WILL...
Is GOD a person? Do you know anything that can speak other than a person? Saith God, I will pour out MY SPIRIT ( John 4:24 God is SPIRIT); is not he saying that he will pour out HIMSELF?
1 Corinthians 2:16 KNOW YE NOT that ye are the temple of God, and that the SPIRIT OF GOD (God is Spirit) dwells in you....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind (God's mind) be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Psalms 82:6 I (GOD SAITH) have said, ye are gods; and all of you are CHILDREN of the MOST HIGH.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I SAID ye age gods?
John 10:35 If HE called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (GOD POURED OUT HIMSELF ON YOU), and the scripture cannot be broken.
Christians believe Jesus is God because the Bible clearly says He's God. Is that reason enough? John 1:1 flat out says it. So, so all the scriptures below that even children read and understand. It needs no creative interpreting, needs no progressive pastor to interpret, just literally what it says. Jesus being God doesn't mean He's God the Father, but God the Son. God became a man and died for you, do you believe Him?
Claiming that Christians who read the scriptures and believe are somehow just 'Americans' or 'Catholics' seems like a disingenuous attack on Christians. Labeling and dividing and lying is what I've seen done to make such anti-Christ arguments. Anyone who does this is on extremely dangerous ground. Anyone who tries to spread anti-Christ lies should be ashamed of themselves.
1 John 2:22-24
"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."
1 John 5:7
Genesis 1:26
John 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
John 1:1
Philippians 2:5 - 2:8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
1 John 5:7
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 5:8
1 John 2:22-24
Matthew 28:19-20. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
JESUS COMMANDED HIS DISCIPLES TO GO OUT AND SHARE THE GOSPEL, AND THEY DID!
IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO DIE FOR.
Today it is the least interesting topic of scripture.
John 3:14-16. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 10:9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Acts 16:30-31. And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
John 12:24 . Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
John 10:1. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Let us not treat the gospel like a history book,
And Let's understand the necessity of it.
God bless
At Revelation 21's point, it's post seventh trumpet, so when is comes to God and Jesus, the two have become virtually interchangeable. Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the "Alpha and Omega" in Revelation 1:8; 21:6; and in 22:13, where Jesus identifies himself as "the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end" in red words.
There's more:
Isaiah 44:6 "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God".
Isaiah 48:12 "I am he; I am the first, I also am the last"
Jesus is the Word, a prime mover, who speaks in unison with the Great God Almighty.
John 10:30 sums it up.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
You CANNOT cancel out these scriptures with Exodus 20:3
Nor the New Commandments that Jesus delivered to us.
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
you say: "yes the person can be saved and be lost if he turned his back on god" i agree!
thank god we have such a great shepherd in our lord jesus christ that want let that happen!!!
the shepherd job is to care for the sheep and ( make sure they dont get lost in the wilderness by wondering.)
john 10:11
i am the good shepherd: ( the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.)
with that being said i feel secure the "good shepherd" will do his job!!
how will he do that?
john 10:7-9.
then said jesus unto them again, verily, verily, i say unto you, i am the door of the sheep.
all that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
i am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
jesus says he is the door of the sheep, there is only one door! you came in by jesus, "you have to slip by him to get lost".
john 10:27-28.
my sheep hear my voice, and i know them, and they follow me:
and i give unto them eternal life; ( and they shall never perish,) neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
:no man shall pluck them out of my hand is one thing, " they shall never perish' is another!!
no man shall pluck them out his hand, is because they want follow no one but jesus. ( they hear his voice and wont follow strangers.
they shall never perish covers broader protection, he want let them wonder off, get lost,
"he holds them in his hand"!!!
sheeps gets lost by nature, they cant keep they self safe.
thats the shepherds job. and they dont loose they sheep (( because they follow him ))!!!
and this is the work of the holy spirirt!!!
god bless.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made (us), even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Father Purposes
Jesus speaks the Word
The Holy Spirit (action) accomplishes it
If you are born again, the Holy Spirit seals you; He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. He indwells you. Comforts you. He is your Teacher. He anoints you to understand scripture. He is your Helper. He is gentle, and kind. He reveals Jesus to you.
I and my Father are one (and the same).
That statement is what angered the Pharisees and those seeking Jesus's death, so much; that he was immediately taken to Herod to be put to death.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
"the Word was God."
The Bible is 100% clear that "the Word was God"- do you agree? It says it in John 1:1 verbatim.
Who is the Word? If you keep reading it answers that in 100% clear language
John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
The "Word" was made flesh and dwelt among us (people).
Verse 15 says John (the Baptist) bore witness to Him. This narrows it down so much there is absolutely no one else this could possibly be but Jesus Christ. It would take serious mental gymnastics to make it mean anyone else, but Jesus Christ.
So, let's review. John 1:1 In the beginning was (Jesus Christ), and the (Jesus Christ) was with God, and the (Jesus Christ) was God.
All of this we get from John 1, the scripture I already provided which you seemed to have missed.
But there's much more than one verse that says Jesus is God. When it says God, it doesn't mean God the Father though, but God the Son. And Jesus is Lord and as well as other terms used in reverence. Just because people have a hard time comprehending the "three are one" doesn't mean they need to try to rewrite the Bible to mean something entirely different. It's already correct exactly as it says. That's part of being a Christian and having faith.
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let US make man in our image"
John 11:6-7 "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."
John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."
John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."
Do you believe these Bible verses?
As we know there's several views of Hebrews 6. Here's 4 commonly used.
1) Paul is talking to unconverted Jews that has been enlightened but turned back to Judaism.
2) Paul is talking Jewish believers to urge them towards Maturity, who's mengaling in Judaism, as did the Galatians.
3) Paul is talking to a mix of the 2 just mentioned 1 and 2.
4) He's talking about Jews loosing salvation.
Consider this verse you mentioned-
Hebrews 6:4. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
"IF" This verse means salvation, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RENEW YOU AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE. "" MEANING YOU HAVE ONE CHANCE IN A LIFETIME TO
GET IT RIIGHT!! ARE YOU ARE FOREVER LOST!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! To renew the broken commitment, MEANING ONCE YOU COMMIT ONE SIN YOU ARE LOST.
Which Dont fit in the light of these scriptures?
Jude 1:24-25. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
2 Timothy 1:12. For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
John 10:28-29. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Romans 8:38-39. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made (us), even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Father purposes
Jesus speaks the Word
The Holy Spirit (action) accomplishes it
If you are born again, the Holy Spirit seals you; He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. He indwells you. Comforts you. He is your Teacher. He anoints you to understand scripture. He is your Helper. He is gentle, and kind. He reveals Jesus to you.
Why would you not fully cling to Him? Study the Word. Ask questions. Sit quietly in His presence until He Reveals the Word to you. Why do you not sing praises to God, through Him?
Drink the milk of His Word, and seek the Meat of the Word. Taste and see the Goodness of the Lord.
Try to comprehend what is right in front of you. Pursue Him with all of your strength.
This age we are living in is going to close out. Are you going to go with Him?
The born again are not of This World. We are aliens. We look for the Completion of the Bible.
Some day soon, Father God is going to STAND UP. Jesus will come in the Clouds, for His Church.
At that time, the Holy Spirits presence will not be as near as He is now.
How does splitting Bible amongst ourselves Help the Unbelieving have enough knowledge and faith, to take hold of God with that faith and believe Jesus is Who His Word says He is?
Pray to the LORD of the Harvest. Then go out and work in the Harvest. Ask the Lord to set up Divine Appointments. Go ye.
Do you love me? Feed My Sheep. Carry My lambs. Ask yourself, What Time is it?
Mishael
Jesus is called "the son of man" to emphasize the fact that he was truly human. There were some in the first century who did not teach this truth.
1 John 4:2-3 "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
Jesus is "the son of man". The Hebrew word "Adam" means, in fact, "man". Thus, Jesus is "the son of man (Adam). He is a descendant of Adam. He had a human mother, Mary, that made that possible.
Galatians 4:4 "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, MADE (BORN) OF A WOMAN, made under the law,"
Romans 1:3-4 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh (THE SON OF MAN); And declared to be THE SON OF GOD with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Matthew 16:13 "When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I THE SON OF MAN am?"
Matthew 16:16 "And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD."
John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am THE SON OF GOD?"
So, Jesus Christ is thus referred to as both "the son of man" and "the son of God".
With kind regards.
Jesus Himself said in John 6:37, "All that the Father gives to me will come to me; and the one coming to me I will NEVER CAST OUT." Jesus goes on to say in John 6:39, "And this is the will of the Father who has sent me, in order that of all which he has given to me I SHOULD LOSE NOTHING, but should raise it up in the last day." If you read John 17:11-12, you see that we are kept by God's power.
I firmly believe in the permanency of salvation because the Bible teaches that God is the One who saves and He does so from out of His mercy. Paul tells us in Ephesians 2:8 that grace, faith, and salvation are gifted from God.
In 1 John Chapter 5 Verse 18, John says "We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin; but the one who has been born from God, God IS KEEPING him, and the evil one does not touch him." John also says in John 10:27-29, "My sheep hear my voice and I know them; and they follow me. And I give to them eternal life; and they will NEVER PERISH FOREVER and not anyone will seize them from out of my hand. My Father who has given them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to seize them from out of the hand of my Father."
Paul emphasized the keeping power of God's Spirit. He says in Ephesians 1:13-14, "In whom also after having heard the Word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also, after having believed, you were SEALED with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the GUARANTEE of our inheritance, for redemption of the possession, for the praise of His glory."
Paul says again in Ephesians 4:30, "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God in whom you were SEALED FOR THE DAY OF REDEMPTION."
(One more post to come)
Quoting You -
""Really ? You don't believe the Bible that says there are more that corrupt the word of God and many false teachers etc !
Really you said what you said ?""
End quote..
I didn't say any of what you just quoted.
I believe people add to the Scriptures ( by their teachings ). Much like you did by attempting to state would I said.
Do I believe there's false teachings?
Yes! Have you noticed we deal with that everyday on this site!!
But false teachers isn't the topic on this thread,
I responded to you saying-
Quoting you again.
""There are many ways to remove scriptures from the Bible , and they have been doing it for centuries"".
End quote.
To sum up my 2 replies I began with God can reserve his word, He's Almighty!!
The volume of the book is written of Christ and it don't hinge on one verse.
Jesus said my sheep hear my voice,
" They follow Jesus not false teachers "
He want let them go astray!! And I trust the Chief shepherd.
John 10:4-5. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, AND THE SHEEP FOLLOW HIM: FOR THEY KNOW HIS VOICE.
AND A STRANGER WILL THEY NOT FOLLOW, BUT WILL FLEE FROM HIM: FOR THEY KNOW NOT THE VOICE OF STRANGERS.
Trust him Bob.
God bless. .
He here the Lord with the inner ear.
The Lord speaks to his "CHURCH" by the spirit.
REVELATION 2:29. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
JOHN 10:27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
HEBREWS 1:1-2. God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
If God decides to speak Audible it would take the spirit to reveal truth.
The inner ear is the work of the Holyspirit revealing that truth.
We have to be cautious of seeking an experience whether by sight or hearing or miracles and rely on faith in God's word.
Hebrews 11:1. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Israel seen and heard "As a Nation " and received external blessings and miracles, deliverance, Promises, and the Gospel.
Hebrews 4:2. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with ""FAITH"" in them that heard it.
God bless.
If Lazarus and and the rich man is not a parable; it makes Christ's words a lie:
Matthew 13:34 ALL these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES;and without a PARABLE SPAKE HE NOT UNTO THEM.
Luke 12:41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest this parable unto us, or even to all?
The disciples walked with Jesus three and one half years and never understood a word he said; UNTIL he took them aside and explained the PARABLES to them. Today you can't understand the PARABLES; unless CHRIST IN YOU explains them to you. Ask and you shall receive.
Ezekiel 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a FIRE in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree: the flaming FIRE shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein.
Ezekiel 20:42 Then said I, Ah Lord God, Doeth he not speak in PARABLES?
Luke 12:49 I am come to send FIRE on the earth; and what will I, if it be ALREADY KINDLED?
Luke 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptised with; and how am I straightened till it be accomplished!
Matthew 3:11 ......he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost; and with FIRE.
John 10:6 Jesus spake this parable unto them: but they UNDERSTOOD NOT what things they were which he spoke to them.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming FIRE.
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Some people think 2 Peter 1: 10-11 has nothing to do with justification, but, sanctification. This is misleading because verse 11 clears explained and expounds on verse 10 to mean eternal entrance to Heaven..... Key word is entrance. If 2 Peter 1:10-11 had nothing to do with our salvation Peter would not have even mentioned entrance into Heaven.
We can, and should take such comfort in the hope and assurance we have in our eternal life. However, we need to be mindful of the warnings that the writers of the Holy Bible put forth, as well. We must never take our eyes of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith ( Heb. 12:2). We must never let ourselves grieve the Holy Spirit by partaking in willful sin, as by willful sinning we create and evil heart of unbelief and run the risk of departing from the living God and falling short of entrance into His rest- Heaven ( Heb. 3: 12- Heb. 4:1). We must remain in God's word for guidance and instruction. By doing so, we will grow in our walk with Christ. We must always remember, He is the vine, we are the branches. We can do nothing without him. If we do not abide/remain in Christ we are cast off and burned, which is synonymous with hell ( John 15 1:6).
Also you do not believe, or understand, the words of Christ like John 10:30?
You know God says listen to His Son right? Matthew 17:5. Even further like the Angel of the LORD in the OT. Exodus 23:20-22.
Also to glorify the Son is to glorify the Father. As they are ONE. John 14:13-14. The only way to eternal life is through the Son of God. John 14:6. 1 John 5:11-13.
God is ONE. I pray the Lord leads you to leave your own beliefs behind and trust Him and His Word.
You seem to believe in the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Though you seem to doubt who the Lord is just like the Pharisees did. Bringing Him down to "just a man". Matthew 5:20.
God Bless.
Obviously you took my post incorrectly. I'll try using Scriptures again.
I never said Christ and the Father was not a relationship. You brought this up. I never said Christ is the Father or the Father is Christ as it seems you took it. I know it's a Father Son relationship. Again John 10:30, John 14:11, John 17:21. Revelation 3:21. For a couple.
Some say the Father being in Christ means He left Heaven. God spoke from Heaven several times proving that false. Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 12:28.
Here are a couple stating the Spirit of Truth or Holy Ghost as He/Him: John 14:17, John 14:26. Putting the three in ONE as in 1 John 5:7.
As I've been trying to answer your questions though you seemed to have veered from mine. No one knows the depths and ways of God. He can do anything He wants. Isaiah 40:28, Isaiah 55:8-9. Just like giving all His power and authority to His Son so we honor Him just as we honor the Father. Matthew 28:18, John 5:22-23. Not knowing your beliefs on this but no one can say Christ did not exist before He was born here. Christ Himself stated this and there are other Scriptures that back this up also. John 17:4-5. All I do is use the Scriptures. I have no private interpretation as that is not what the Scriptures are for. 2 Peter 1:20.
Nothing is falling apart for me. I've given you many Scriptural verses as I have not seen one from you. Also I really don't even know your motive for making the first post the other night. The reason I made the reply is because you said something about a "man made trinity doctrine". Which I showed you is not man made it's Biblical.
Still not getting into how many titles the Father and Son share. Not knowing if it would make any difference to you.
I'm not here to argue and don't take my post that way please. You may have your own view.
Again as I hope I've answered your questions. I'll just leave the one again.
Do you believe the Scriptures I've posted?
Thank you. God Bless.