Discuss Hebrews 2 Page 5

My belief is that Mary, by the grace of God, supplied the ovum necessary for the Word to become flesh. Else he would have not truly been the Son of Man, but another life form.

According to scripture, Jesus Christ would be the seed of the woman, the root of Jesse, the seed of Abraham, made like unto his brethren, the root and offspring of David.

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. ( Genesis 3:15)

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. ( Isaiah 7:14)

And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. ( Isaiah 11:10)

For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. ( Hebrews 2:16-17)

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. ( Revelation 22:16)

Thank God for for giving me the tools I need to study, learn and as a 70+ living in senior housing, I have been

encouraged to reach out to my female neighbors and encourage the study of God's Word. The loneliness for even me is a challenge. But bless God, He always hears and answers the desire or our heart, to do HIS will.

Please pray for me as I reach out to the women here in my senior housing community. Loneliness is one of the enemies

tools with seniors; with the lock down and fewer visitors.

I need your prayers and any encouragement, tools/fun Bible studies for senior women you may have. (12-15 women)

Please pray for me, and that You will help with some type of interesting, even fun study in Gods Word for senior women.

Blessings

Evangelist Elsie Allen(I'm a young 78 PTL

817-446-6116

Scott, may the Spirit grace you with his wisdom,

Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put ALL things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put ALL in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. BUT NOW WE SEE NOT YET ALL THINGS PUT UNDER HIM.

GBU

Jesus is God. 1 John 5:7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

There are not 3 gods. He ( God lowered himself a little lower than the angels) read Hebrews all of Hebrews.

He took on the seed of Abraham Hebrews 2:6 Jesus came to die for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. I could say so much on this subject. Speaking of the fallen angels & the devil : 1 Corinthians 2:8

"Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."

King James Version (KJV)

John chapter 10 ..

No man took his life he lay it down

Jesus IS God..

there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. 19There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. 20And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? 21Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Unbelief in Jesus is a death sentence for the unsaved.

We are not of this world anymore. We look for the new world to come. Faith always looks forward. Lots wife died by looking backwards, after she was ordered not to.

We still sin until we ask the Holy Spirit to come along side of us, to enable us to resist temptations. He will do that. When you feel that pull between the flesh wanting to sin; it's a good time up put in an emergency call to the Holy Spirit. Satan wants our walk with God to feel defeated. He hates God and us.

Even if you feel ashamed and defeated yet again: take those sins to 1 John 1:9. Then receive the cleansing.

We can ask the Holy Spirit for the Gift of discerning of spirits. We learn discern the spirits at work around us. Ask for it.

Human spirit

Evil spirit

Holy Spirit

Angels

Instead of wallowing in defeat, pray and be cleansed and restored. Read these too: Hebrews 4:13-16; Hebrews 2:14; (a warning) Hebrews 10:26

Hebrews is a good book to read at a snails pace. It has much to say about sin. It ends with people whom God mentions as heroes of the faith (chapter 11). Even King David that had Bathsheba's husband killed in battle so he could marry her. Their first baby died as a result.

We are not of this world anymore. The more Bible we have in us; the less likely we'll choose to sin willfully.

Satan hauls us before the Court of heaven and Accuses us with those sins. Jesus has to step up as your Advocate (defense attorney) and prove your innocence by opening the Book of Life to verify your name is written down in there. Hebrews 2:1, 3 and Revelation 3:5

We have a born again nature that wants to follow Jesus and live the born again life.

Revelation 3:15-22

Consider these things in your walk with God: following His son Jesus. Pray, confess, depend on the Holy Spirits help.

When I write comments, the Holy Spirit will jog my memory with a phrase that will Help me remember the whole verse so I can include it in our studies here.

The more we read and study(daily), the more the Holy Spirit has, that He can pull from to help others be saved.

We're sorta like living, walking Bibles. We are working together with the Holy Spirit.

Our appetites for the Word of God should be ravenous. Five minutes here, 10 mins there, is ok. For me, my appetite is unrestrained and continuous. This has been going on for 35 years. When I really knew who Jesus is: that he's alive, talking to me and loving me when I get discouraged by life: I was hooked and happy about it.

Jesus is not like earthly Dads. He is always interested, listens intently through my emotional storms at life; gives me direction, lifts that "eyebrow" to show me I'm off track. When I lead someone to Him, he rejoices with me.

Hear this, if nothing else I've said: you can have the deepest relationship with Jesus,

THAT YOU DESIRE. No limitations.

Side trips into sin, of course, temporarily slow progress. Be quick to repent. :)

He is omnipresent. He is on His Throne interceding for all saints of His family. Us.

Somehow He is able to know what each child of His is doing; minute to minute. I find this captivating. (I'm not easily captivated).

Point is: You can have this too. There's no need to feel like Peter did when he stepped out of the boat to walk on water to Jesus.

He saw the 'waves' and started to sink.

If we keep our eyes and ears tuned into Jesus...we will never sink, never feel alone and ignored ever again. He has a wonderful sense of humor at times. I heard him laugh with joy and pleasure once, and I was captured in my heart for life.

We fall in love with Him, through reading His Bible. Ask: who is this King of my life? What's he like? What does he like?

Dig down deep in His Word. Uncover truth and revelation. He is not a man that he should lie.

If you are going to quote the verses from the Bible and it is not from KJV, then you need to put where you are read. Some of this does not add up to the KJV. And if you are going to quote the verse, quote the whole verse and not just half or 2 or 3 words.

I would like possitive

Jesus called himself The Son of Man.

Acts 7:56

And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Hebrews 2:6

But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Revelation 1:13

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Revelation 14:14

And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

This is the Son of Man! How can we with our unclean lips, speak His name without bowing the knee?

It blows my brain how people do not reverence Him. Debate him. Chip away at his Deity. He is who HE said he is.

At least Isaiah 6:1-8. We see a PROPER response to the Lord of Glory.

Also, I spotted another LET US scripture in Isaiah 6:8.

He's gonna be around until the bitter end. He'll be locked up in hell until the 1000 years are met.

What about 1 Corinthians 8:6

In Heb 2:14 was Jesus successful in destroying the Devil that tempted him or not??:

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. ( Hebrews 2:9-12)

what is the meaning of Hebrews 2:14

Have you noticed how close God is to you? He is waiting while your struggles from the dark side come upon you. Like me l have learned to take one day at a time. Trying to hear God when He leads me toward a person or situation of a need. I walk into the conflict for others as this world sees it...and l use God's way of solving it. Putting the whole armor on, l let God solve the problems thru me. What a sad world this has become. The darkness over whelms others that do not see the Light of God. The more you have been thru in your life-- the more of a fighter for others-- as Jesus was in His days, you are in these days. The Heavens are real. I have seen them in an after death. The Book of Life is real....everything the Bible has shown in the writings from long ago is ALL REAL!!! GO TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. PRAISE HIM!!!!! UNTIL THE DAY HE RETURNS!!!!!

Reply to Greg . Know Ye not that We are the temples of God and His Spirit dwells within us. Verily verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born of Water and Spirit he can not ENTER the Kingdom of God. In my Father's house are many mansions ( enter the Kingdom into my Father's house) I go to prepare a place for you ( He has gone and He prepares our hearts ...now.) so that where I am you may be also . Acknowledge Him and He does direct our paths. See Lazarus, He did not conform to the world. He did not have worldly possessions. He did no works. He sat, He called upon the name of the Lord and He was still and knew that Our Lord is God, He suffered , He was mocked and pushed aside. Much to be seen in the Lazarus. John the Baptist said I must decrease and He must increase ....indeed self must be denied to the death . Penalty of sin is death....all flesh must die! But...Jesus is the ressurection of Life. He enters His chosen in ...Now. Death has lost its sting. There is nothing that can separate us from the Love of God. Yes brother. The church is the heart. If the oil ( His Spirit ) is full. He will see your light like a beacon set on a hill. Be the light that lights the dark places. Love by laying down your life for your friends. Our Lord is no man and no liar. What He has said He has fully performed . Love and Peace Is with you always into forever

To FRED SCANLAN

Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

CHASTENING

Deut. 8:5

Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

Proverbs 3:11

Isaiah 26:16

1 Cor. 11:32

Hebrews 12:5,6

James 1:12

1 Peter 1:7

Rev. 3:15-21

AFFLICTIONS

Psalms 34:19; 132:1

Isaiah 48:10

Acts 7:10; 20:23

2 Cor. 6:4

Col. 1:24

1 Thess 3:3

Hebrews 12:5-12

Rev. 3:18

SICKNESS AND HEALING

Exodus 15:26

Psalm 6:2

Isaiah 30:26

Jer. 30:17

Eze. 34:16

Hosea 6:1

Mal. 4:2

Matthew 10:8

Mark 2:17

Luke 5:31

James 5:15

1 Peter 2:24

Rev. 22:2

RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



2 Chr. 16:12,13

Job 13:4

Psalms 34:19; 108:12

Isaiah 30:1-3

Jer. 17:5-7,14

Hosea 5:13

Mark 5:25-29

Luke 8:43

MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

Job 5:18; 23:10

Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

Isaiah 48:10

Jer. 31:18

Hosea 5:15; 6:1

Romans 8:17

2 Cor. 4:17

Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

Rev. 3:19

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Comments by Alex on this Hebrews 2 v 10 on bringing many Sons into GLORY. This scripture is so powerful after you understand it. It should be connected to Mat 13 the sower and his seed that is gonna bring many sons into GLORY. Actually Jesus was born to be multiplied as the stars of heaven, scripture says he was the 1st born of many brethren, That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven. Just as Issac was the 1st born of many brethren ( the promise ) Christ is also the 1st born of many brethren in the spritual realm remember Jesus said that which is born of the spriit is SPIRIT which is the H.G. the child of PROMISE there has to be an Israel of God just like there was a natural Israel . The sower and his precious seed is the Word thus a Spritual Birth of Christ in us the Son of Man our fruit unto God an ISRAEL OF GOD BORN IN OUR HEARTS A NEW INNERMAN our new heart and new spirit. Thats y the scripture is saying the H.G was not YET given till Christ was glorified meaning when he will go forth to sow his seed in our hearts which will bring many sons into GLORY, Behold me and the Children the Lord has given me, his children the H.G. plural YA GOTTA REMEMEBER CHRIST WAS BORN TO BRING MANY SONS INTO GLORY ( GLORFICATION IS WHEN THE H.G. was given ) The H.G IS ANOTHER CHRIST BORN IN US. The child of PROMISE .Thats y we have rev. 12 the woman is bringing many sons into Glory, Her child is the multiplication of Jesus, she was impregnated by his Word that good seed the resulted from of hearing and understanding his Words the contents of the book. Just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas Christ is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven resulting in an ISRAEL OF GOD. The bringing in of many sons that are gonna be born in our hearts Ya gotta realize that John refers to the children th manchild as the kingdom of God and salvation is now come etc. Jesus was born to bring many sons into GLORY, when a seed dies it multutiplies.

I agree, but don't let those with a small town mentality bully you off. People like you are welcomed because there is hardly any place left that is safe and respectful for true disciples and new believers to discuss anything without the weedy tares acting territorial

Send a scripture next time ok?

The one in the name box is a piece of lint that follows all comments sent. Lol

Good evening Greg, My wife and young son went into the wilderness today to see some absolutely beautiful waterfalls created by our great God. Regarding sinners I think you understand that a death sentence was placed upon Adam and Eve and their children. Thus our Redeemer, Jesus Christ. My life had to be sacrificed by faith and repentance outside of the gate like Jesus. Fully believing this was so, like many, I could enter through the torn veil without fear and find my new life in the Mercy Seat where Jesus covers my sins. To continue to willing sin I would be again an unbeliever, but His grace is sufficient. I remain until the end of this life a sinner saved by grace and am assured of this position by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which comforts me when I do well and reproves me when I error.

It seems some of your concerns are outside of the believer's Kingdom (which I refer to as His Church). I love my neighbor as I understand my own unrighteousness and unworthiness. I pray for those who are at fault with the laws of their respective lands that they can repent and find grace with God and man. But for their punishment I leave it to the magistrate. As Christians we are likely the most accountable to the laws of the land because we were bought for a price and do not want to ever devalue the work of Jesus at Calvary.

1 Corinthians 15:47

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Do we as Christians not want to be more like Him at any cost?

Thank you for your thoughts.

Carleton

Paul was never married.

Peter was married but left home to be a disciple of Jesus. His adult sons cared for their mother.

Where in the Bible does it say we do not see the results of king suffering until after

I am NOT going to argue with any Catholics today or any other day. We all stand accountable to God for any choices that we make. It's a personal, one on one kind of accountability. Just you and Jesus at the Bema Seat.

As is: I do not see the fruit of what is written in 1 Corinthians 13, in some of the comments being made. Where's the Love?

Christian patience, tolerance, long-suffering?

Let us all remember that today.

Did Apostle Paul marry

Hi Carlton,

I agree that Jesus is the way to everlasting life.

I am not sure what you mean by a "condemned to death sinner" being "protected by the Law" by "putting themselves in the Mercy Seat of Christ."

I don't want to live in a society that allows murderers to be justified in the Law because they have decided to be "brave enough" to believe that the Law of God has been fulfilled through the blood of Christ and therefore we do not need to be under it anymore.

Faith in Jesus does not free people from the consequences of sin.

Murderers are to be dispatched back to God.

Forgiveness is up to the one offended, not the offender; and it is based on repentance.

The Law is there for us to follow.

Again, I will state that only Jesus did not NEED the Law.

He was Perfect.

The rest of us need the Law.

Concerning the "Bride:"

I don't believe that the collective Christian churches are the Bride of Christ.

The Bride is Jerusalem that God took to wife ( Ezekiel 16:8), and SHE will be renewed and called "New Jerusalem" ( Revelation 3:12, 21:2)

We as Christians make up the collective "body" of Christ ( Ephesians 1:23, 5:23, Colossians 1:18, 24, etc..)

Hi Greg, Jesus made a way for a condemned to death sinner to be protected from the laws requirements by the same putting themselves in the Mercy seat of Christ that covers the Law. That Mercy seat has been fulfilled, and those brave enough to enter in by faith and place themselves in that seat are covered and will not know death eternal but life eternal like Lazarus the poor man. When Jesus paid with his water and his blood for our sins on the Cross, then verses 17 & 18 in in Matthew Chapter 5 come to Life. Jesus has one more work so to speak, to come for His Bride, then there will be the consummation and all will be in all. No one on earth even a born again sinner can justify themselves as living by the commandments in fullness. I think we all know that if we are honest in our hearts. Thankfully we have Jesus Christ, God's Son and his Holy Spirit to lead the born again believer to the consummation in Heaven.

Carleton,

I agree that we as believers can freely rest and be justified in God's commandments and enter into the Rest that is given through the grace of Jesus Christ.

You say "Jesus came to fulfill the commandments"?

I disagree.

Jesus came to fulfill the "law" ( Luke 24:44).

One "jot"or one tittle" of the LAW will not pass until ALL is fulfilled ( Matthew 5:18)

These are powerful words from Jesus that should not be dismissed or overlooked. ALL has not been fulfilled yet, therefore the LAW still stands.

Love is the fulfilling of the LAW ( Romans 13:10)

That means that the LAW is still in effect.

Only ONE person that ever walked the earth did not NEED the LAW.

The rest of us need repentance every day, because we break the law every day.

The death and resurrection of Jesus fulfilled blood and other certain ORDINANCES of the Law, but did not abolish the LAW itself.

How can we "rest" in His commandments when we break them?

Our rest comes through faith in our repentance and His promise of forgiveness and a new standing in Him from that.

Very briefly: When Adam sinned by eating the fruit and was banned from the Garden; he lost the mandate that he had been charged with by God. Satan stole the keys.

You see satan in Job 1, bragging.

When Jesus came out of the grave, He went and got the keys back from Satan. He preached to the captives in hell and led them all out; took them through the streets so all could see.

Revelation 1:18

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

I don't call that mocking. You did, didn't you? Mocking and accusing is a fruit: attributes of Satan. Exactly like what he was doing in Job 1.

Jesus legally took all that power away from Satan when He went to the Cross. John 3:16 < link

Satan didn't know what was really happening or he would have stopped the trial and the crucifixion. He didn't read the scrolls that were being written. He must've forgotten about the prophesy God spoke to him in Genesis 3:14-15. Hebrews 2:14

Romans 16:20, 1 John 3:8

His time is short and he knows he is going to be cast into hell. That's why there is so much spiritual warfare in our world now.

Ephesians 6. Satan is sending his evil angels out into the world to kill as many humans as he can by accident, illness, pandemics, depression, suicide, drugs and alcohol; even riots in streets = where demons will seek to enter inside of unaware humans.

2 Timothy 3:13, evil will wax worse and worse!! It's not ever going to go back to normal.

After the Rapture (Caught Up), it will be this bad times 10. After Antichrist finishes pretending to be Mr. Fix-Everything that's wrong with the world ....all hell will break loose on earth. All prophesy.

You should switch sides now and hang with Jesus. He's going to be moving real fast.

Mishael

Bendito Palavra

Concerning the Law;

The everlasting Law God established with those that desire to be called His children still stands.

The 10 Commandments still stand.

Any time we sin we are under the Law.

Everyone sins: Everyday!

Blood ordinances were fulfilled by the death of Christ ( Matthew 26:28, Romans 2:29, Colossians 1:14)

Priestly duties connected to the sons of Aaron were fulfilled in Christ. ( Hebrews 8:1)

The Temple was destroyed; as promised: ( Matthew 24:2)

Deuteronomy 29:29

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children FOR EVER, that we may do all the words of this law."

1 Chronicles 16:17

"And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an EVERLASTING covenant,"

Ephesians 2:15

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ORDINANCES; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

Hebrews 7:12

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."

Matthew 27:51

"And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;"

All has not been fulfilled.

All will not be fulfilled until the return of Christ.

Believe the words of Jesus.

Mathew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Concerning works;

Why would Jesus care to evaluate the WORKS of the churches that are on earth at the end times when He comes back if they don't matter? ( Revelation 2:2, 9, 13, 19. 3:1, 3:8, 3:15)

Also look at:

James 2:14-26 - "Faith without works is dead"

Revelation 14:13

Revelation 20:12