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How can angels have sex, if they are neither male or female and neither marry or is given in marriage. Elijah above has it right.

Cain was Adam and Eves son not a angels son. Angels neither marry or are given in marriage.

That was before the Flood. The fallen angels that followed Lucifer, drowned. They didn't have bodies anymore. They became demons; wandering around seeking bodies to get inside. (Human, animals). The Old Testament calls them 'inhabitants.' That's how they still get around in 2020. If a person is not born again & baptized by the Holy Spirit....

John 3 and John 16

....They are unprotected from spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6 tells us that these things are invisible. Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you about these matters. You are going to need your SWORD (a whole lot of scripture on the inside of you).

Granted, young King David (took out Goliath with a rock). is a righteous young man full of the Holy Spirit and fire.

There is the permissive will of God, and then there is the perfect Will of God. You need the baptism of the Holy Spirit and you need to know what each piece of armor is and what it does to demons.

Stanjett,

Angels can reproduce!

If angels can not produce, then how do you explain the birth of Cain?

The flood of Noah's time was released due to the fallen angels mating with the daughters of Adam.

The result of the fallen angels mating with the daughters of Adam were a race of Giants.

Humans mating with humans does not make giants.

In the OT, "Sons of God" are angels.

Angels can not reproduce. They have no sex organs.

Very well put.

Scriptural Facts-Gen.6:4:

1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. ( Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)

2. The Nephilium were present before, at the time, and after the sons of God and daughters of man had ***. They can't be their offspring, because they would have to be born first.

3. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. ( Job 1:6; 2:1), ( Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)

* The sons of God are the renown men of old(from seth's lineage)and were tempted by the Nephilium (Fallen angels) to lust the daughters of men(from Cain's lineage).

The word expedient?

So, let us see....you say "sons of God" are all men in God's image.

Mmm...are not angels sons of God ?....yes.

Job 1 and 2 clearly refer to angels as sons of God.

And are not all men created in the image of God ?....yes.

And referred to as Man and son of man

Psalm 8 verse 4 makes that distinction clear...and there are other verses too.

And the Book of Jude 1(verse 6 ) clearly illustrates that there are fallen angels.

Also Revelation 12 verse 9.

Yes, there are the same disobedience problems with angels AND men.

So, I am NOT convinced that 1 ENOCH is false.

Did not Jesus occupy himself at length, with the casting out, of evil spirits ?....yes.

Also, very important, is Ephesians 6 verse 10 to 18....and why we need the armour of God.

Battlefield soldiers used armour, not so ?

Also, the discovery of giant-sized skeletons all over the world....yet another clue.

Their heights ranging between 10 feet to 36 feet....

Also, just type in "giants".... and there are plenty of Old Testament verses that pop up.

So, it is not about glorifying demons and fallen angels....no.

It is UNDERSTANDING, that these creatures are THE REAL enemy, using human dupes via possession, to do Satan's bidding.

Don't you think ?

I do.

As Ephesians 6 verse 10-18 clearly states...We wrestle not against flesh and blood, etc.

Sons of God are men in Gods image .. Male and female He created us .. No angels were created to procreate and the book of Enoch is a lie .. It clearly claims that all, ''ALL'' fallen angel offspring ''nephillim'' were 300 cubits tall = 450' tall .. Ridiculous and stupid .. Angels first estate were to serve, worship God and be messengers .. Then you have ''kinds after their kinds'' to get around and convince that the lie there were angels capable of producing children mating with mankind .. Next you have to convince they could care for a family instead of killing them .. So stop it and quit making demons heroes, sickening to give demons that much credit .. Quit wasting valuable time on that nonsense and stick with truth and away from Jewish and other fables ..

The Giants mentioned in the KJV are the Nephilium. Nehpilium's root word is nefilim.

The Hebrew wordnefilimis sometimes directly translated as "giants" or taken to mean "the fallen ones" (from the Hebrewnaphal, "to fall").

Goliath was a large man but not a descendant of the Nephilium. Other scriptures point out that rebellious humans or Angels have fallen from God's Grace. Even though there were giant humans throughout time, does not mean that they descendants from nephilium.

Fallen Angels are considered to be giants in mankinds eyes as illistrated throughout the bible.

The Israelites that reported back after spying upon the Palestinians saw large men not nephilium!

The Nephilium must have been Demons that were present while the sons of God lusted the daughters of man. Perhaps, they had influenced the sons of God to lust the women and rebel against God in this manor. No where in scripture does it state that the Nephilium were they offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men. It only gives reference to them being present at that time and afterwards.

Sons of God are mentioned in the bible many times. The Righteous Angels are referred to as Sons of God at the time of their creation. Job also describes them as sons of God. Christians are referred to as Sons of God.

So, the title has to do with righteousness. Jesus was called "Son of Man" meaning human, and Called " son of God" meaning divine nature(without sin); God.

Fallen Angels lost their title when they rebelled with Satan; their new father or leader.

Demons can not be the Sons of God. The sons of God mentioned in gen. 6:4 couldn't be holy Angels because their is no mention of Angels falling away after the initial falling away or rebellion. Therefore, they must be the humans who honor God in that time. Blessed are the righteous and peace makers, for they shall be called sons of God.

Demons cannot take on flesh -- there is nowhere in the Bible that says that they can. Of course we know that angels, both heavenly and fallen, can appear in human form, but they remain spirit beings only. God also said let every creature produce after it's own kind. This means that a human can not mate with a goat and have a pan as an offspring(Mythology). The same applies for Demons, they can not have offspring with humans. Besides, if God wanted more angels he would create them himself. Also, according to Jesus, Angels do not marry in heaven, that means they do not have offspring or engage in sexual relations to reproduce. If Angels dont marry while in heaven, how could they when kicked from heaven.

Furthermore, Sons of God are referred to as humans over and over again throughout the bible. There is a scripture of sons of God referring to the holy Angels in Ezekiel. Of course, you all know that a holy angel will not disobey(sin) God.

My previous interpretation of scriputre about Gen. 6:4 is still most logical and theological.

Hello. I believe the Nephillum were the children of angels (sons of men) and humans having sexual relations. Genesis 6:1-4.

I believe that the Nephilium were fallen Angels. Angels are not given into marriage as scripture states. Therefore, they have no sex organs(male nor female) and can not have intercourse with any human, angel, or creature.

I don't see in scripture where it states that the Nephilium were the children of the sons of God and daughters of man. It only mentions that they were present during the time that the sons of God married the daughters of man and afterwards.

Men of reowned is another way of saying popular or famous. Of old must mean legendary. Adam, Abel, cain, seth, and Enoch were renounced men of old. Besides, a half demon and half man is not a man nor demon. Therefore this could not be in reference to the Nephilium.

Sons of God is used to refer to a righteous lineage where Jesus Christ will come from. Noah was declared a righteous man. I would say that seth's blood line would be referred to as "sons of God". God sent and separated cain from the rest. I believe that God wanted to have a pure righteous bloodline from seth to Jesus Christ. Remember, God only upset at mankind for the interbreeding of Seth's clan and Cain's clan. He said nothing about the demons.

Because of all the unrighteousness God limited the age of all humans, even the men of renowned of old. The only ones that God said he would make a covenant with was Noah's family. Apparently, Noah's family was considered righteous and pure. So, The Nephilium were demons or fallen Angels, The sons of God were the lineage of seth, and the daughter of man were cain's descendants.

The Holy Spirit will not be as active. There will be evangelizing by other people who missed the rapture.

The problem is the Antichrist getting his one world money system going; the Beast,

One world church and one world Leader: him. It's going to lead to receiving a Mark in your hand or forehead; to access buying power with your funds. I'd read Forbes. They are the ones pushing this one world calendar that's been in the news. Google that.

Bibles will be outlawed. Guns, I don't know. You'll have to Buy ammo now.

If you think all the current rioting is bad now; multiply that by 1000.

It was reported that in Israel someone re-did all the Palestinians names on maps, renamed to Israel properties. Genesis has the recorded deeds to the land. It is theirs.

No one has taken responsibility for that. It could be Russia & Syria that did that to further turn the world against Israel. Read JerusalemPost newspaper online; daily.

Prophesy teaches that USA will do something that will anger the whole world. That near the end, that Russia will be obliterated by God. China is working with Russia, Syria, Iran. Iran wants to take over Iraq. China is acting like they're the Antichrist but that's not true. Antichrist will most likely have Palestinian ancestry but deny it. He may not be married; doesn't have time for women?

Whatever happens it will happen quickly like it is now. Genesis 6:3, Luke 19:42, Galatians 6;16-17, 1 Peter 3:20; Psalms 78:39 to end. Read all that Bob.

Why would any of you neglect to be born again and risk going to hell, you and your family?? Can you watch yours or someone else's child be beheaded? If you don't take the Mark, you'll be beheaded. If you do take it, God will have to send you to hell.

What are you thinking? Can anyone hide from God and Antichrist? All this you see is going to be BURNED. 2 Peter 3:10-11. It'll make global warming look like a marshmallow roast. Super quakes, Wormwood Asteroid/star, super volcanoes!

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2 Thessalonians 2:7, I believe the Restrainer is none other than the Holy Spirit, or we could say the Holy Spirit working through the New Testament Born again church.

Supporting the idea that the Holy Spirit within the church is the Restrainer, is the fact that the restrainer is referenced both as a thing, and as a person, HE.

Also, the power delaying Satan's masterplan, to unveil his false messiah; must be of God. It makes much more sense to say that the Holy Spirit is curbing the devil, than a political entity or even an angel. The Holy Spirit of God is the only Person with sufficient (supernatural) power to do this restraining. He co-created with God and the Word of God, at creation.

Of course, the Spirit works through born again believers to accomplish this. The church, indwelt by the Spirit of God, has always been part of what holds society back from the swelling tide of lawless living.

At some point, Paul says, the Spirit will STEP ASIDE from His restraining work, allowing sin to have dominion over mankind.

Second Thessalonians 2:7 can be literally rendered, "The secret of lawlessness is already working, only it cannot be revealed until HE WHO NOW WITHHOLDS, disappears "from the midst." I believe this "disappearing from the midst" will happen at the time the church leaves the earth at the Caught Up (rapture) in the clouds to Jesus.

The Holy Spirit will still be present in the earth, of course, but He will be taken out of the way in the sense that His unique sin restraining ministry through God's born again people, will be removed.

It's been done before. (see Genesis 6:3).

I think Isaiah may of seen or heard a computer. Read this:

Isaiah 8:19

And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits (demons), and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

Technology is how the Antichrist will eventually hunt people down.

Should we hoard some aluminum? Does that work? I don't know that either.

I've read in a book on Prophesies ( they're out there. Buy one)

That America/United States is called in prophesy: Islands in the Sea. That's because the continents are surrounded by water. Also, Britain, Scotland, Australia and others.

Here are the scriptures:

Isaiah 11:11

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

Isaiah 13:22

And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

Isaiah 41:1

Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment.

Isaiah 42:12

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.

Isaiah 42:15

I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.

Isaiah 59:18

According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

Jeremiah 50:39

Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.

America is not without sin. Plenty of people describe it as the new whore of Babylon.

Have we not seen people who murder, shoot up synagogues, set them on fire: rain hatred on them sunup to past midnight?

How many churched people have come in here recently, saying, despite going to church regular, they barely know anything about scripture or prophesy? Quite a bit.

Ask the Lord for clarity! Th e fallen angels not only need with women but animals also. There were giants in those days and also after that...that tainted DNA is still here. The bible says his spirit shall not always strive with man. So understand the meaning of being unequally yolked. Some people are wicked. The 13 bloodlines of the elite, the queen of england, rockafellers, Rothschild, gates is part of that and so on. Truly wicked people on this earth that control it all. The 1%. Then you also have evil other people who are just wicked in their bones. Historical evidence has been purposely hidden by the Smithsonian museum and others. You can look that up. Many giants bones were destroyed.

I don't know what you are talking about. Jesus and the father are ONE! There are NOT two Gods. God in spirit, Jesus in flesh. When the fallen angels and human women , also fallen angels bare offspring with animals also, that is where the giants came from born of them. monsters ! Corrupt flesh. The reason Noah and family were saved is because they were perfect in their generation and their flesh was not corrupt with tainted blood of the fallen angels. Read it again. Somehow you have it twisted.

They follow man, not the bible. It is not scriptural. Follow no man! It is corruption. Clearly, they do not believe that Jesus is the son of God. Jesus and our heavenly father one. Jesus and the father are one. God is the spirit, Jesus is the flesh. One. Now, the churches are corrupt. The bible says " come out of her and be he separate. "Look at the corruption. Nothing but entertainment and vanity. Rare for them to speak about the end times. The signs are everywhere. Stay far away from 501c3 churches. In order for a tax break to be given to a church they must be politically correct and must refrain from talking about sin. Don't believe me? Look it up! Research everything!!!

Because in the latter days, the end days knowledge shall increase!

The reason why I mentioned it, is because of the book of 1 ENOCH.

He was the 7th from Adam and was the go-between for the Watchers and God in heaven.

Their children were the giants( Nephilim), as you mentioned.

Their spirits became demons.... the powers of the Air, as mentioned in Ephesians 6 verse 12 and on.

And THAT IS WHO WE ARE UP AGAINST.

with Satan in charge of these powers.

... of course using the Synagogue of Satan ( or human dupes), as mentioned in Revelation 3.

Now, ask yourself, how many Christians even know that.

Anyway... cheers.

Charles Jordan,

Concerning the word NEPHILIM

The word "giants" ( Genesis 6:4) is the English transliteration of the Hebrew word "nephiyl" (Strong's #5303) and means; a feller, a bully or tyrant- a giant.

This word "nephiyl" is a derivative of the primitive root "naphal" (Strong's #5307) and means; to FALL (in a great variety of applications), and is used in Scripture for the following words:

cast down- (fallen angels) look at the book of Jude

cease

die- (what Satan and the angels are guaranteed of)

fall away

fugitive- (Cain, product of Satan and Eve)

(cause to) lie down- (Satan and Eve in the Garden)

lying

overthrow

(make to) rot

slay

throw down:

It is now PLAIN TO SEE that the progenitors of the giants were the angels.

The Hebrew language is the language of God.

Hebrew is the language God used to form heaven and earth and everything into existence.

"and God SAID" ( Genesis 1:3)

Hebrew is the only language on the planet that is both phonetic and pictorial.

The Hebrew number system is contained within it's 22 letter aleph-bet.

Learning Biblical Hebrew = a deeper understanding of Scripture.

I see there is no mention of the NEPHILIM, as mentioned in other Bibles ( eg the Hebrew Bible )

Normally in verse 4

Noah had a big job to do and it took around 110 years of his life building that boat. Using a modern "Royal Egyptian Cubit" of 20.6 inches, Noahs boat was 157 metres long. I think with Noah being an Adamite man of considerable stature, his cubit would have actually been bigger from elbow to finger tip and the ark much longer. The land bridges would have been in place back then and the continents all joined together before the great flood.

I love the bible and I know that the kjv is very nice to read

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Scripture concerning other "flesh," accounting for a male and female representative of each race to come aboard the Ark can be verified through Scripture. This can absolutely account for the other races of people on the earth after the flood of Noah's time, look at ( Genesis 6:17, 6:19, 7:15, 16, etc.).

The Strong's definition of "Gentile" is a "FOREIGN" nation from the nation of Israel. If there is no foreign nation to Israel because we are all from Adam, then what FOREIGN lands are the children of Noah proceeding into in Genesis 10:5?

"By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."

Who are the "Gentiles"? How are the Gentiles a product of Adam if the Gentiles are FOREIGN to Adam? It can't be both ways.

The information concerning the "giants" being on the earth after the flood is also verified by Scripture in Genesis 6:4, "and also after that," also look at Numbers 13:33, Deuteronomy 3:11. If the "Sons of God" mentioned in Genesis 6:2, 4, are not fallen angels, then who do "giants" come from? Humans' mating with humans does not produce a giant. Neither does a change in one's geographical location, nor a confusion of language, will change the ethnicity of a particular race.

If God said that "ALL FLESH" ( Genesis 6:17) would be destroyed that breathed the breath of life, how did the giants survive? Answer- because He told us they survived in Genesis 6:4. The great whales and sea creatures that breathe air survived, but we are not told that. We are told what we need to know. God uses both literal and figurative language, and it is our job to figure it all out. What we do know is that the word of God is the Truth.