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You are replying to a comment by "Ronald Bearden"

to answer your question Ronald:

according to acts 2 when they were speaking in tongues,

both man and woman were present.

Noticed what the prophet Joel prophesied.

Acts 2:16-18

all people can teach what they have learned from the bible.

but as far as authority. Adam was created first then eve was created as a

helper for Adam to take care of the earth- Genesis 2:18

what about "within" the congregation?

Ephesians 5:22-24; Titus 2:3-5

1 Timothy 3 within the Christian congregation or church...appointed ministers takes the lead in teaching the congregation or church. when a woman learn in silence 1Timothy 2:11, 12

within the congregation, this helps keep the congregation orderly. so in this instance. A woman doesn't have authority over a men within the congregation to teach nor over her husbands at home. however, husbands love their wives and listens to their concerns just as Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) taught Abraham Gen. 21:8-12. Even Jesus; when he was at a house or on the roads he listened and asked woman questions. woman like Martha, Mary Magdalene, the Samaritan woman. he taught them and spoke to them with kindness. John 11:27; Luke 10:38-42.

if a woman sees something or has a question

...she can ask her husband at home.

1Corinthians 14:33-35

Hope this Helps. the bible is a light and shines for all to see.

john 3:16,17

Part one,

S Spencer, brother thank you for your caring and your support to the brothers and sisters on this site. I understand this subject is off-limits to many and I thank you for your answer. I understand as Christian's we have different understandings of scriptures. I understand discernment, it is like Paul said in ( 1 Corinthians 3:2) the Holy Spirit does the same.

I went to church in my younger years and I had Christian parents, but I was not truly saved until my forties going on thirty years ago, it took over two years through demonic battles and things I did not believe were even real. I have full faith in my salvation in Jesus Christ and the baptizing of the Holy Spirit, if not I would not be here today.

I understand wanting to sit this one out some people's emotions override the love in Christ and many hold this undebatable, if we lived long ago, we would be in fear of death and even today your treated as unwanted, and cast out of many congregations, and I do cherish you considering me a brother.

On to the two Adams, now this is what I feel has been revealed through the Holy Spirit and my understanding of Scripture and I understand if we do not agree, but I will as best I can, tell you. When God formed the first Adam and made Eve out of his rib, they were in the garden naked and they were not ashamed ( Genesis 2:21-25). Their conscience was clean and white, not touched with sin, a dwelling place where God could communicate directly to Adam. After sin we see the voice of God walking, we know who that was.

If we look at all the scripture about our conscience it is where evil or good dwells. We are convicted by our conscience, our conscience records every thought, every intent, every imagination whether good or evil, it is the part of us that is recorded in the books that will be opened. This is why the law fell short it could cleanse the flesh but was uncapable of cleansing the conscience. ( Hebrews 9:8-14) ( Hebrews 10:1-12).

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Hello Clymer. As you have probably read starting from John 3:1, Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus, a Pharisee, a Jewish religious leader. Firstly, Jesus had explained to him a Truth that he hadn't heard of before & even now, could grasp: that of a spiritual re-birth. So then Nicodemus asks Jesus: "How can these things be?" To which Jesus basically tells him, that even a master of Israel (i.e. one like Nicodemus who was well studied in the Scriptures & the Law) cannot know the things that someone who has a personal experience of such knowledge knows & brings. Nicodemus probably prided himself with scriptural knowledge, but here is Jesus standing before Him Who could illuminate his mind & heart with heavenly things.

And so, Jesus goes on to say in verse 13, 'no one from Earth has ever gone up to Heaven & then returned to bring you such knowledge - it has only been Jesus (the Son of Man now) Who was already in Heaven & now come down to bring such glorious news' (I've transliterated this verse liberally, so you can get a better understanding). So, did Jesus go up from Earth to Heaven & learn God's Truths & then bring them to Earth? Definately, NO. Jesus was already there, being God's Word, given humanity & sent to Earth to bring God's Word & to give His Life for all ( John 1:1-14). So Nicodemus was in a special position now to hear directly this Word of God from Jesus the Son of God, a Word that he could never dig up from the reading of the Old Testament Scriptures, but had to receive it directly from Jesus Who was in Heaven.

And this Nicodemus was one who attended to the dead Body of Jesus by bringing embalming spices for His burial ( John 19:39,40). We can't be sure about Nicodemus' salvation, but this act of love & sorrow certainly leads one to believe that this man's heart was changed & he was prepared to risk his reputation & life for his loving act - a love for the heavenly Master Who told him all he ever wanted to know.

explanation of John 3:13

Revelation 7:1

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Philippians 2:10

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Isaiah 37:16

O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.

Genesis 2:4

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Psalms 19:1. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Romans 1:20 - For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Ecclesiastes 3:11 - He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Genesis 2:1

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Comment by Mishael: I pray for angels to guard the 4 corners of my home. I have never had any demonic manifestations for 36 years. God gave us DOMINION; and Jesus gives us HIS AUTHORITY to to stop satanic activity immediately.

I think Space dot com slash NASA has the best photos.

Genesis 1:16 Just refering to God making lights in the firmament of heaven, not a word about space

1 Cor 15:14 Nothing to do with space

Genesis 2:4 Not related at all

Psalms 115:16

16The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

"the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?"

What? Scripture is not for private interpretation.

None of the rest of the verses have at all any implication of space, please point me the exact words or phrase, where the existence of space is even remotely implied. I will point you to exact words where space is outright denied, in a second.

But some of the verses you provided actually hint at the solid nature of heavens.

Isaiah 40:

"Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?"

First of all, not a word about other planets, second "meted out heaven with the span". It's impossible to measure something with a span that is not solid.

Job 22:12 Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!

Space has no height, it stretches in all directions, solid heavens have height.

Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble

How something not solid can tremble?

Now I assure you, there's plenty of scripture that directly states, that the earth is flat, unmovable, and there's no space or other planets, but I would like you to debunk first this one please:

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Where are the waters above?

Hi Damoah Samuel,

Sunday is the first day of the week.

The Holy Sabbath Day is on Saturday, the last day of the week.

God made the 7th day the Holy Sabbath Day in the Garden of Eden.

Genesis 2:1-3

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

God Bless.

Lily Mcallister on John 1

Is the Holy Spirit a person?

Jehovah's is a spirit ( Psalm 83:18; John 4:24). and he made his Angels spirits ( psalm 104:4);

and he blew his spirit into Adam nostril "the breath of life." when a men or human dies, his breath goes out. and the spirit returns to God (not the flesh itself.. because the body is flesh made from dust - Genesis 2:7).

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, these qualities is his spirit. this he has created men in his image to display these qualities to take care of the earth. -

Galatians 5:22,23

According to Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus said go therefore baptizing in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit (the accurate term is holy spirit because John 4:24 accurately says spirit). Also, Jesus is not God ( John 5:19) but he was raised up as a spirit again; and he is a Angel.- John 14:28

Point: God can give his spirit to anyone to serve his purpose- Luke 1:35. if we worship God, we must worship with spirit and truth- john 4:24. anyone who want to worship in truth...should believe in the word of God ( 2 Timothy 3:16,17). by this God will give his spirit and truth will speak.

To illustrate: person 1, person 2, and person 3 are all different people. God will and can give his spirit to person 2 to carry out a particular task. God may want person 2 to completes that task fully. he may use person 3 or person 1 to do something completely different or accomplish the same purpose. (so yes the spirit basically belongs to God, because he is a spirit and the source of distributing that spirit to accomplish his purpose.- Genesis 1:1,26,27 ). no human can force God to do this or that. he is the boss of the spirit.- Isaiah 43:11-13

hope these scriptures help.

You are replying to a comment by "Terry"

Hello Terry,

Eve explained to Satan the serpent

that God told her you shall not eat.

Genesis 3:1,3

Hope this helps

According to Genesis 3:22-24, I would say that God spoke to neither of them about not eating from the Tree of Life. Because they disobeyed God by eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil, God drove them out of Eden & set guards against the Tree of Life.

did God or Adam tell Eve not to eat from the tree of life?

Psalm 1:3

John 15:1 -12

Genesis 1:11 -12

Genesis 2:9

Revelation 22:1 Revelation 22:2

Hopefully these scriptures are helpful

Rudy L Cole Yes animals have soul which is breath life, they breath in air in Genesis 2:7 the word breath is nishma which means breath Genesis 6:17 all flesh that wherein is the breath of life the word breath there is ruach which can be translated breath air wind or spirit, and going by context it is breathing air.

Thank you very much for your online services of the King James Version of the Bible. Have a bless day. :)

Hi Jan This is a perfect example of carefully reading Gods Word Genesis 1:22 God made the beast it doesn't say create there. In Genesis 2: 5 is a continuation of explaining what God had done earlier in genesis 1:29+30. In Genesis 2:19+20 God is saying who he put in Charge of creation Adam and Eve would be there to help Him. That's why God brought all every beast of the field and fowl of the air to adam then adam with Gods spirit named all of them just think about how intelligent this man was. It was not normal human intellect. Prayerfully this Helps In His Service

Jesse In my observation this is a confusing field in Gods word and I don't understand why. People keep saying don't change what's written so okay. We are born body and soul we have a body that's going to corrupt we took our first breath and became alive a living soul because according to Genesis 2:7 breath life is soul life, now when we get born again we receive the spirit of God Holy spirit Gods gift through confessing Romans 10:9+10, then we are body ,soul and spirit, before being born again exercising my sense of humour we are just a bunch of B.S.



When we die or or fall asleep body goes to dust spirit goes back to God who gave it and we take our last breath soul life is done. What I read spirit is spirit eternal, soul is soul breath life, body is formed dust of the ground that's what is written. With all due respect I don't look to correct more to understand, enhance and build upon. In His Service

Hi Earl In Genesis 2:7 And the lord God formed man of the dust of the ground body step1 and breathed into His nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul step 2 can't be the same thing because the body was not alive until man was given the breath of life. Also 1 thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray your whole spirit soul and body [it doesn't say soul and soul and it doesn't say body and body] be preserved blameless unto the coming of our lord Jesus Christ. I didn't write the book In His Service

what are God's view in the book of genesis chapter 1 and 2. what does it mean for the humans to be made in the image of God. what is the practical application of what these chapters teach us?

1 Corinthians 7, Matthew 5

Are good to read when contemplating marriage.

Use this website SEARCH BOX

Type in: marriage

Numerous verses will be fetched that you can read. It helps us to know what God teaches us about it. He performed the first marriage for Adam and Eve. Genesis 2:22-25

Johnny Talk about a man with an incredible mind read in Genesis 2:19+20 where Adam before they blew it God brought to Him every beast and He named them. How would you measure that I.Q.

Michael may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS truth and His understanding.

Genesis 2:8 ..... the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE of good and evil

The fruit would have to be; knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 3:21 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become like one of us (gods), to know good and evil .....

Since we will eventually be the FULLNESS of Christ (gods) ( Ephesians 4:13), it was necessary that man eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Adam I have only one question, in Genesis 2:19+20 what part of Adam was so intelligent that he could name every living creature and to this day that is the name of it. Just asking

Hello RLW, thanks for your comment, but what you said is untrue. Read Genesis 2:16-17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." - these are the words of God. You said God didn't say that, but I'm reading it with my own eyes and can't deny what I'm reading. Do you still hold this opinion that "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying..." is Eve saying it instead of the LORD God as it says?

From the day Adam ate it he was condemned to death. Today, we age and deteriorate until we die. There is no evidence that they aged prior to that. For example, Adam was created as an adult, not a baby.

Genesis 1 26-27

And God said, Let US MAKE man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 2: 21-23

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, MADE he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

1 Corinthians 7 is the marriage chapter.

1 Corinthians 13 is the love chapter.

To enter into a relationship without Gods blessing, can be doomed because there is no commitment to God. They are doing it the way of the world. I often use Genesis 24, for young people looking for a perfect mate.

I would advise counseling for them.

And you need to bring this burden, or outrage, before the Lord, to be forgiven and walk in forgiveness, before the Lord.

You know Adam and Eve didn't have a big Church wedding. The Lord married them. Genesis 2:22 to Genesis 2:25.

We get better results when we pray for others. Cast all these cares upon the Lord, walk in peace and the Lord will sort out the details.

Dear Vera,

It is most certainly God's will that you and all of us work if we are physically and mentally able. He even put Adam to work in the Garden of Eden Genesis 2:15 - "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." And when Adam and Eve sinned, God put Adam to work as a farmer as is evident in Genesis 3:17-19 "And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." And so man began to work, and God has intended all of us to work. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

The point is, in that He wants you to work, he will help you find a job, but you must get out there and hunt for one.

God bless.

Hi Vivnce. As Adam as shared the link, you will find that the Name Jehovah does appear in the KJV. However, I think what you might be referring to is that the JW Bible (New World Translation) shows "Jehovah God", when our KJV shows it as "LORD God".

So if you look at this example: Genesis 2:4 in the KJV: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens", then in their NWT Bible, it will read as, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Maybe this is what the JW you spoke to was referring about this change. They use 'Jehovah', & we have it as 'LORD' (in capitals), though 'Jehovah' does appear as a word four times in the Old Testament of the KJV.

EARL BOWMAN

You are 100% correct when you say: "You (we, say I) are not created in God's image until you(we) are BORN AGAIN by SPIRIT. Before that you are in Satan's image (dust, flesh). EARL, what you said is PERFECT, YEAH, PERFECT. The ONLY ONE who was/is not born from Satan and in his image, THIS IS JESUS.

"The crooked serpent" (snake), in the expression or conception of the language it is a product of the earth: Genesis 1:v.24 - Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and CREEPING thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. The MYSTERY is how the Power worked in the process of production of this kind of living creatures. On the other hand, in the spiritual conceptions it is more easy to understand how they are produced among us.

You said: "and man were FORMED, not created". Yes, acccording Genesis 2:v.7 combined with Job 33:v.6. Gen.2:v.7 - 7 And the Lord God formed man of the DUST of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. That said, it seems be more easy to understand why GOD said to Satan (not to a snake): thou art CURSED above all cattle, and above every beast of the field (the field is the world); upon thy belly (womb) shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: This DUST of the earth-I mean the men- has been the serpent's food until today through the procreation in all generations, and the World of the Devil has gotten until the current time.

JESUS said: John 3:v.5-6: 5 ... Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 1:v.13 - 3 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Amen

Brother S Spencer, may CHRIST IN US, grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

Job 26:13 By His SPIRIT he hath garnished the heavens, His hand hath FORMED the crooked serpent.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God FORMED man of the dust of the ground....

Both the crooked serpent and man were FORMED, not created. You are not created in God's image until you are BORN AGAIN by SPIRIT. Before that you are in Satan's image (dust, flesh).

Psalms 104:39 Thou sendest forth thy spirit and they are created: and thou RENEWEST the face of the earth.

You said: He is described AS IF (future tense)

I BELIEVE you are right.

I BELIEVE this is a PROPHESY of what we have been CREATED for; but until we depart this flesh iniquity is still found in us.

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD

May CHRIST IS US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Luke 17:21 ....Behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

Matthew 12:28 But if I (Christ) cast out DEVILS by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the kingdom of God has come unto you.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT ....

Revelation 11:15 ...The kingdoms of this world (Satan in us) are become the kingdoms of God (CHRIST IN US), and his Christ; and he shall reign (IN US) for ever and ever.

Colossians 1:27 ...This mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...

GARDEN OF GOD

Song of Solomon 5:1 I (Christ) am come unto my GARDEN...

Isaiah 58:11 ...and thou shall be like a watered GARDEN....

Isaiah 61:11 ...and as the GARDEN causeth the things that are sown it to spring forth; so the Lord WILL CAUSE righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land (kingdom of God) that was DESOLATE is become like the GARDEN OF EDEN ...

Genesis 2:9 ...And the TREE OF LIFE also in the midst of the GARDEN, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Isaiah 51:3 For the Lord shall comfort Zion (His chosen): he will comfort all her waste places: and he WILL MAKE her wilderness like EDEN, and her deserts like the GARDEN OF THE LORD: joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Genesis 3:8 ..the Lord God walking in the GARDEN..

Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the GARDEN OF GOD could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches: nor any tree in the GARDEN OF GOD were like unto him (Christ) in his beauty.

WE ARE THE GARDEN OF GOD....CHRIST IN US...