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This is one of my favorite chapters in the bible. Firstly we see the Son of God before He was called Jesus visiting Abraham again in person accompanied by two angels. We see His sense of humor when He calls out Sarah for laughing in the tent. She thought it was so funny that she was going "to have pleasure" with old Abraham. Well past her menstrual time as well so a real miracle indeed to have a baby named Isaac "laughter". Then we see Abraham actually bargaining with God. He must have really been Gods friend to say things like "shall not the judge of all the earth do right"...thats gutsy and you only talk like that to a real friend especially if they are God.I'm so encouraged by the fact that we can talk to God as a friend, also that He has a real connection to us through His son, firstly as creator and old testament visitor, then via Mary, a fellow human and saviour of the world.

I was telling someone about this story of Abraham recently, it appears to me the lord an the two angels spent some time with Abraham

Hi Carlos, I agree. God allows himself to change his mind, like Genesis 18:32, Jonah 3:10, Amos 7:3. It's a little confusing to reconcile this with 1 Samuel 15:29.

That is right: MANY NATIONS. Abraham had Isaac ... and Ishmael. Israel is one nation and>

Genesis 17: 18-21

Ishmael was born in Gods permissive will.

God blessed him

Will make him fruitful

Will multiply him exceedingly:

Twelve princes shall he beget

I will make him a great nation

That explains a lot I think, but read also Genesis 18: 18-19 There is a note to read: Gen 12:3, 22:28, psalm 72:17, Acts 3:25, Gal. 3:8-9, 16, 18

Isaac gets Israel (all the land of Canaan). I'd have to look at maps later.

There is great resentment in Israel right now. Palestinians want the land back pure & simple. They want everything that was Destroyed to be rebuilt, infrastructure and full access to Jerusalem. They want everything that the war of 1967 gained!!! It's mind boggling. Israel gets to be a state but loses what they fought for independence to regain.

This is the engine that is hurrying the earth to conclusion. It's partly why we are commanded to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. God is NOT going to rescind the covenant with Abraham.

One point about the Antichrist is found in Daniel 11:37....neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard ANY god: for he shall magnify himself. [a note refers to Isaiah 14:13 here]

Bottom line is that Antichrist is most likely descended from Ishmael. But he has no regard for his heritage.

He's moving under the radar but if enough people read Jerusalem Post dot com ?? We may see him in a crowd with a smirk.

The prophesies are about the Covenant; the land God has given to Israel through Isaac.

There are many people's that are returning that believe Jesus is the Messiah; they're happy about it; most likely have churches; evangelize...

How can you despise that? Israel is the apple of Gods eye. He rejects orthodox Torah carrying boneheads that will not receive His son. He is turning up the pressure every day. God has a plan! Quit railing and you will see.

It was the lord (god) himself who was speaking to abraham and 2 of his angels .

70 x 7=490 she put 7 x7 it's 7 x 70

Ayup my name jay and I like to read the bible

And one asked this question once. How often should I forgive my brother til 7 times? And the Lord said to him, I say not 7 times but 7 times 7 times.

I think I met an angel once. I was going to work, something told me to pick up a hitchhiker and he told me to let him off at the next exit which was only around 1/4 mile and that was where I was going to get off anyway but I had it in my heart to carry him where he wanted to go. When he got out I gave him my paper bag lunch. He said God Bless you and that's the last I saw of him.

Can a person forgive the same person to much on the same problem?

I used to think that if they lived to be 900 then if proportional to our current growth/age cycle then the average person would reach puberty around 144 years and look like a typical teenager at that age. However, this is not the case, because women gave birth young then too, adult men worked through 20s, 30s, and even Sara laughed at the thought of her giving birth, because she thought it was a joke. So, I think she was likely in menopause by then, but perhaps the age rate slowed from 100-900 years? There's no indication I'm aware of that 700 year olds were physically active, running, fighting, etc.

it's not as ''''amazing as you think''' in the sense that after living 900 yrs and the LORD reducing the yrs down to 120... you're thinking in the context of todays '''90'''' years old.

Jerry, did you read Hebrews 13:2 ? Because I wrote angels 'can be disguised as people' as Hebrews 13:2 clearly says, but you then respond by saying "I don't think I ever read a place where it says they were disguised as men". But Hebrews 13:2 literally says angels can be disguised as people, do you agree? So, given that why do automatically you rule that out as a possibility in Genesis 18:2?

From reading the Bible I believe that angels are not people, but they can be disguised as people Hebrews 13:2. Likewise, Jesus appeared as a man, but that doesn't mean he wasn't God. Genesis 18:2 actually doesn't say they're angels either, but in Gen 19. Could be written from the perspective of them being 'men' to show that no one know they were angels.

The three men are God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

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And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: And one of the three, I think was Jesus. He was the one that answered all of Abrahams questions. The other two were angels, because only two angels entered into Sodom.

Verses 4,5~Hospitality was a very important custom in ancient Israel. Hospitality should be important to us today.

vs 19 - God's foreknowledge of Abraham's dependence upon God for good works is shown here. Abraham, will by faith, act upon the promises and truth God has given him.

This chapter highlights Jehovah God's patience in dealing with Abraham. He allowed him to question him multiple times and he gave him an answer each time.

Dear Jonathan; Why do you not spell out the word God? He is not offended or challenged by our unworthiness; but He rather loves us and seeks to save us! ( John 3:16-17) There is a prophecy in Amos about the disobedient Jews at one point being no longer allowed to mention the LORD's Name; but it is not for us who believe and love the Name of our God and Saviour! What are your thoughts? Please write!

It is amazing Sara giving birth in her nineties However With G_D nothing is too hard

To Marty's comment 2/2016; How does one open the Bible, and not be afraid to think and say what you said? The episode with Noah is glaringly apparent; Ham had no compunctions about looking on his father's nakedness, and no respect or fear to talk about it out loud! He was a filthy rebel in his heart, and it manifested in his descendants after him! Japheth and Shem loved and honored their father!

Dear Ron; I'm so sorry to read about your sickness. I will pray for you to be healed also, and for the Lord to help you with all the strength and comfort you need. There are things I think are too hard for us in this life, and we just want to be strong and feel like we were before. It may be unbelief; it may be that we have to search our hearts and give account to God; it may be we have to wait?

Ron,'what will it take for him to heal me." God wounds us and heals us for many different reasons. There is no set formula, He heals the wicked as well as the righteous, as it pleases him. Psalms;"I know that it is good for me to be afflicted, that I might learn your statutes."Read chapter 2 Cor. 12, V.7 Paul asked him 3 times to remove the pain (thorn) in his side. Job 13:15 , Job 23:12-16.

Ron: Without His Spirit Living within,You can Read The Bible a 1000-x. Not much will happen. Only when You ask Forgiveness: 1John 1:9-2:2. You will be Washed by His Blood: Revelation 1:5. You will be Baptized with The Holy Ghost:Mark1:8. You will be Changed: 2Corinthians 5:17 You will Know!/ This happens when You are Called,a Tug in Your Heart: John 6:44. His Word will Open to You a New Life!

Ron; Sorry to hear about your crippling accident. The LORD has a purpose for all things and will work them out for good. WE can only pray and wait on the LORD to do what HE has on HIS mind. Like I said sorry to hear about your accident but I will be praying with you in your time of need.

I was in a bad accident tat left me wit foot drop syndrome in both legs.I used to be very active now all i do is just set and rot because I can't walk.I have read the bible once and now I am reading it again,what will it take for God to heel me I pray to him and talk to him what will it take for him to heel me.

Hello Saints!

In Genesis 18-1, it is truly amazing how our father Abraham, recognize, Yahweh, and the two Cherubs instantly. I wonder how many time have Lord Jesus, approach us in homelessness, or any other basic human need and we did not recognized, or help!

Marty, I hope that you will never lose a desire to read God's word. I pray you would have a burning desire to know Christ and the power of His resurrection. God can only work in hearts that are open and willing to be moldable in His hands. The more i read God's word and memorize it and meditate upon it the more I learn about how mighty and powerful God really is.

Abraham was being hospitable in the opening verses. This is a good quality to have.