Discuss Genesis 15 Page 4

Good day, everyone! God made it. Let us rejoice and be glad in it!

What stands out to me in this chapter is how God swore and oath to himself while Abraham was deeply asleep. To me, this means that the covenant and promise cannot be broken, because God is always true to His Word.

For my husband and I, conceiving children did not come quickly. It took more than a year for the first two and over 6 months for the third. So, at that time, I remembered how Abraham had already waited many decades to have a child without conceiving and then, after the promise, another 25 years went by before Sarah conceived Isaac.

I love the read about the faith of Abraham, after so many years of not conceiving, to believe what God then promised despite all "odds". And then he had to keep believing for 25 years! Although Ishmael was conceived perhaps a decade before Isaac, but he was not the child promised. Sarah and Abraham tried on their own counsel to bring a child into their lives. That did not turn out very well for everyone, as we will read in future chapters.

For us, we prayed and believed that God would answer our prayers in His timing, and he did. But we also have known people that prayed for a child and never conceived. They were able to adopt a child. They were blessed in a different way. But the waiting can be painful, as those around you are conceiving right away and have children already in their homes. So, for anyone who is not conceiving as they planned, I pray for comfort and assurance from the Lord that he will chose wisely for you. It's a difficult time to endure. Having my three sons and having had the pleasure of being home full-time to raise them up was wonderful. I have always wished I could have more than three, but pregnancy and childbirth posed serious danger for each of my sweet boys. After a year of pray and seeking God about having more children, we felt led to cease having children. That was a very difficult decision for us. Yet, we were blessed with 3

Amen Brother Chris.

Here's some parallel verses. Part 1.

Galatians 3:16-29. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Hebrews 6:13-19.

Genesis 15:5-12.

( Genesis 15:6. )

Galatians 3:26-29.

Hi Larry. Genesis 15:13 actually states that the descendants of Abraham would be as "strangers in a land that is not theirs & shall serve them". This Word from God came to Abraham whilst Abraham was asleep & was eventually fulfilled (after Abraham passed on), when the children of Israel were "strangers", or foreigners in the land of the Caananites & then afterwards in Egypt (& you might remember that Moses was sent to be the one to release the Israelites from the slavery in Egypt).

Spencer Raban perphes that is speculating??What brought us into it? The evil ways of the nations coming to fruition.

Genesis 15:16 shows how the Lord waits for evil to become fully complete before He acts to remove the people who cling to such evil.

Deuteronomy 8:1 ...which the LORD sware unto your fathers.

Deuteronomy 8:3 ...neither did thy fathers know;

Genesis 15:15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace;

Genesis 47:9 ...have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage.

Genesis 48:21 unto the land of your fathers

Numbers 20:15 How our fathers went down into Egypt, and we have dwelt in Egypt a long time; and the Egyptians vexed us, and our fathers:

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Who are these Fathers? any special meaning?

The Bible uses duality to liken events.

Isaiah 14 is a diverse recap of end-time prophesy.

Israel (whole house) spent 430 years slaves in Africa per Genesis 15:13. Centuries later, the house of Israel, specifically the birthright people of Gen 48 (US/UK), in their respective new lands (land of the Lord), returned the favor by taking them captives whose captives they once were, some 400 years.

The Torah is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, the first five books of The Bible written by Moses by inspiration of The Holy Spirit.

Have you NOT read the Torah? I probably have read Leviticus the least. I'm currently in a Bible study on Genesis. But I've read through these books many times over the years.

Many significant things to me: a very few of them are...

Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Genesis 15:6

Moses intercedes for his people Exodus 33:12-23 "My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest."

Sevenfold curses for Israel's rebellion Leviticus 26

Moses strikes the rock twice. Oops! Numbers 20:10-13

How can we know if a prophet speaks from God Deuteronomy 18:15-22

Louis,

Man's turning point from the beginning has been, "Do I believe God?"

God gave Adam ONE commandment. Eve was deceived but Adam chose to rebel, which is the evidence of unbelief.

The entire plot line of The Bible shows God pursuing man and man's responses.

Able responds by believing God while Cain does not. Genesis 4:3-5

Noah responds by believing God Genesis 6:22

Abraham believes God Genesis 15:6

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And it all culminated in Jesus and is encapsulated in...

"And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Act 16:31

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man BELIEVETH unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Rom 10:9-10

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have BELIEVED in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" 1Co 15:1-4

Upon true saving BELIEF in God man's position with God changes. Before BELIEF he is an enemy of God. After true saving BELIEF in God he is at peace with God.

"For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." Rom 5:10

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:" Rom 5:1

"Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen." Jud 1:24-25 (KJVA)

400 in the bible derive it's meaning as being divinely perfect period. A four hundred year period exists from God fulfilling his pledge to Abraham that he would have a son to the children of Isreal leaving Egyptian bondage...

The word 'heart' is a strange word. As you know, we have it in normal English usage & we find it in the Bible as well. There's no specific meaning one can give to it; the best I can do, is to say that the word 'heart' is used when we want to describe someone's innermost being, expressed in the mind, the emotions or in spiritual matters. Just as one's soul & spirit are defined in the Bible & these are the immaterial parts of us, so to our 'heart' is immaterial & probably serves to describe the activity of soul and/or spirit.

The Bible is replete with references to the 'heart': Genesis 6:5,6; Genesis 17:17; Genesis 45:26; Jeremiah 17:9 are just a few examples of the ways that 'heart' is used in the Bible. So when I wrote, "fully convinced in our hearts", my thoughts were on the combination of our mental & emotional aspects, whereby we must firmly believe in mind & display of emotional strength, as we stand against any that should come against us.

As a sideline, the Bible also uses the word 'bowels'. This can refer to our bodily insides ( Genesis 15:4) but also refer to what we denote to the heart, except using the older English expression. So we have Genesis 43:30, Philemon 1:7 as a couple of examples of that. I trust you can see the use of the word 'heart' (& bowels) in Scripture.

PG 1: Hi anonymous, the wages of sin is death, and eternally separated from God: Romans 5:12. Wherefore, as by one man entered the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for all has sinned... Romans 5:19, For by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one "Christ" shall many be made righteous. In Genesis 3:21, God made coats of skins to clothed Adam and Eve, rejecting them attempting to clothed themselves, in which he made an atonement for their transgression pointing to a future sacrifice lamb "Christ" that would take away the sins of the world. In Genesis 12:3, God tells Abraham in him all the families of the earth shall be blessed, In Genesis 15:1-6, God promise Abraham a son "Isaac" through which his seed be called, "AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED" In Genesis 15:8-17 God puts Abraham to sleep to perform an unconditional covenant with him, Which depends on Gods promise not Abraham efforts. In Genesis 16:1-4, Abraham and Sarah decided to assist God in his promise and decided to parent a child through Sarah's handmaid and bared him a son Ismael, Genesis 17:18-21, God rejects Ismael as the covenant child, "Heir" according to the promise.

they were in Eypth for 400 years.

1. Need more specifics in your question.

2. Genesis 15:18-21.

3. Romans 4:1-3.

4. Philippians 3:9.

You are correct, death is the devil's way. The Canaanites dedicated themselves to the devil resulting in their own miserable destruction. God gave them more than 400 years to repent ( Genesis 15:16). Then the LORD, to whom the promised land belongs, judged righteously and cleaned them out.

Bob Grove,

I understand Genesis 4:26, and specifically the word "began" in this way:

Mankind in general, and Adam, in particular, was properly calling upon the name of the LORD long before the birth of "Enos." Suitable worship of the LORD did not begin with this one "Enos," as Scripture has already given us the example of Abel, whose tribute unto the LORD for his transgressions was found to be acceptable by Him ( Genesis 4:4).

Many believe this verse to convey the sense that the worshippers of the LORD began, at this point in time, to publically band together, calling or representing themselves as dedicated disciples to God and His word. These measures were taken by them in order to distinguish themselves from the wicked generations of Cain, known as "Kenites" ( Genesis 15:19), that were rapidly advancing in all facets of life; especially their worship of their god, Satan.

I believe that what did originate with "Enos" can be better understood from the Hebrew word "chalal," which is translated "began" in Genesis 4:26. The definition and etymology of the word should be reviewed for clearer understanding.

The practice "Enos began" was that of profaning and defiling himself, his heritage, and most importantly, the name of the LORD. "Enos began" calling the names of men, and the names of idols, directly by the name of the LORD, thereby allowing even more confusion to be brought upon the true children of God that are eagerly wanting to understand His precepts.

Given below is ( Genesis 4:26) from the Targum of Jonathan;

"And to Sheth also was born a son, and he called his name Enosh. That was the generation in whose days they began to err, and to make themselves idols, and surnamed their idols by the name of the Word of the Lord."

What is the significance of four hundred in the bible?

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What is the significance of 400 in the bible?

Some argue in that, there is then no room for repentance. If God says through FAITH we are justified & Abraham was considered righteous by faith. Genesis 15:6 is the act because of lack of faith?

Genesis 15:1 & Genesis 15:6 (in principal)

What Jesus did = Matthew 9:35

Promises = Exodus 23:25 , Deuteronomy 7:15 , Psalm 41:1 -3 ,

Judgement = Deuteronomy 28:61 ,

Instruction = 2 Chronicles 6:28 -29 , James 5:14 -15

Times of sickness ?

yes, we're in the Laodicean age, as in Revelations 3:14 - 22. Most important point is, Be ready at all times ! Look to the sky and patiently, with excitement, wait for Jesus' soon return to receive us to be with Him forever. !!! wow !! I get me excited

400 year prophecy. A lot of rich Black Americans in the near future. We are living in Bible times, yea?

Genesis 15:3, from triangular number 153, 217x9=1953, 17 splits in ancient times to 7

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And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
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And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
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But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again. 120x3=360 40=400 years. God knows math.

Blessed be the Lord our God for His Word

15:6 'And he believed in the LORD and He counted it to him for righteousness.' Abraham had faith in the LORD and because of his faith he is justified. Belief is all you require to be saved. By grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God. Eph 2:8
Abraham was saved long before the Law was given to Moses. This is a verse that I hope I always remember.

When someone brings up the condoning of slavery in the bible, as a reason to discredit God's word, refer them to Gen 15:2

I love Gen. 15, IN kjv. Abraham was a type of God the Father. Thats what abraham means exaulted FATHER, IN REALITY ITS God the father that wants a posterity,God wants to be the father of many nations. Just as Abraham offered up his only son it was a metaphor for God almighty offering up his only son CHRIST JESUS,In reality its Christ that is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven. The Promise.

Verse 6: Jehovah God viewed Abraham's trust and faith in him as something righteous. We must have a strong faith in God in order to be considered righteous in his eyes.