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  • Peter Langes on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Before there could be life on the land or sky, Hydrogen and oxygen the WATER trinity for life has to be present. From the Vanity of this world to pollute the gift of life explains the diseases and Pandemics. Tis, natures wake up call to stop polluting the water with human and industrial waste
  • Mishael - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Not blaspheme
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Therefore, the Saints practiced baptism for the dead that those who died not receiving the ordinance may be saved for God is a Just God.

    Paul's teaching of the resurrection tied to the ordinance of baptism is proof the physical act of receiving baptism is a necessity to being saved or you will not rise.

    Next, we should discuss authority for the scriptures say, And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Paul makes the necessary ordinance of baptism unto salvation perfectly clear talking about baptism for the dead, saying:

    1 Corinthians 15

    Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

    But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

    And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

    Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

    For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

    And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

    But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

    Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

    ... you will not rise in the first resurrection unless you are baptized.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    "... baptized for the remission of sins." I don't know how much clearer this could be said.

    But some will say that baptism, the baptism our Lord was baptized by John, has a different meaning because John said, I indeed have baptized you with water: but he (Jesus) shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

    So with this passage, the physical baptism that represents being buried with Christ and coming out of the water in a newness of life likened to the resurrection of Christ, no longer is needed. The ordinance of baptism is done away, in other words.

    Christ will indeed baptize with the Spirit after we are physically baptized and receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    We don't need baptism to be saved, Stan?

    That all a part of the works trip religion?

    Don't stop reading the Bible, Stan, for Peter says if you rest the scriptures you rest them to your own condemnation.

    The more you read, the clearer it becomes. The more you don't read, the less clear it becomes.

    Let's look at what the Spirit tells us about baptism in the scriptures:

    1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

    "... even baptism doth now save us." I can't see how much clearer that could be said.

    But let's keep going:

    Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Revelation 20:13 and they were judged every man according to their works.

    The you say, Jesus Christ doesn't decide our salvation, we do.

    Stan, did you take upon you the sin of the world?

    Stan, is it by your grace we are saved?

    I believe in Christ only comes salvation and there is no other name given by which man is saved.

    We come unto the Father only through Jesus Christ.

    Are you sure when we've done all we can do we save ourselves?

    Christ said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    James 2:18-20 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

    Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

    But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

    Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

    Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

    Revelation 20:12 and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

    John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

    John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

    1 Timothy 6:18-19 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

    Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

    2 Timothy 3:17

    That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

    Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Romans 2:6-7, 10

    Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

    To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

    But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

    Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

    Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

    James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

    Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Rod, I gave the definition of being saved by grace and you replied in a manner saying I'm incorrect. Then you continue by using the apostle Paul's writing which say works are not involved in our salvation.

    Clearly, James writings on faith and works contradict Paul's writings on grace.

    Therefore, I neither call the apostle James or the apostle Paul liars.

    I say it is both.

    We are saved by grace after all we can do, says neither James or Paul are liars.

    Many mislead others by using Paul to call James a liar.

    If you meet James , the apostle of our Lord, when you pass on you can say, I used the apostle Paul to call you, the apostle of our Lord, James, a liar.

    When I meet James and Paul, I will call neither a liar because I believe the truth.
  • Alex on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Ya think that Mary cd have fallen away or lost her salvation ( the Child ) the Son of God,th living word of God no way.Jesus said to them that hath shall more be given,her Child grew more and more in statue with God and man and we are like MARY in that we must be born from above but the child we birth is spirit th h.g. our new innerman,christ in us.as we have borne the image of the earthy we must also bear ( birth ) the image of the Heavenly.thats y he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN.mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G. THAT RESULTS FROM HIS SEED THE WORD TH LIVING WORD NOT THE WRITTEN WORD THAT GENDERS TO DEATH BUT THE LIVING WORD.MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE THAT genders to a baby Christ born in us.My lil children of whom i travail in birth til Christ is formed in you th ( son of man ) Thus we cannot fall away if we birth Christ in our hearts the child is th essence of God the child of PROMISE EMANUEL God with us.She brought forth a man child th H.G.
  • Alex on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Jesus said even as Moses lifted up a serpent in the wilderness even so must the son of man be lifted up,Jesus is our bronze serpent spritually speaking,We are still in the wilderness, sometimes we get bit but if we behold the lamb of God our snake bite ( sin ) is not fatal aka as Grace etc. Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world John preached, John knew we wd get bit sometimes in this evil world but no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus.This bronze serpent was a metaphor, the 1 st sign of Grace to come in Christ Jesus. The law was given by Moses but grace and truth came by Christ Jesus.I.E. the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us FREE from the Law of Sin and death SNAKE BITE AND DEATH in Moses time. Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world.The Church is like th Red Heifer we still have sin RED but when the baptism of fire comes we will burned to Ashes at the door of the tabernacle ( door of our hearts )Our God is a consuming fire gbu
  • Rod - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Hi Paul: what I meant by what God did for us sinners what we could not forselves was an expression, meaning there is nothing you or can do to save ourselves , The Apostle Pauls says -we are saved by grace through faith and that not of ourselves it is the gift of God Not of wokrs lest any man should boast Eph 2:8-9 The Apostle Paul is our Apostle to the Gentiles. For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    2 Timothy 1:11

    Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

    1 Timothy 2:7

    Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

    The Book of James is writing to the 12 tribes scrattered James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. We are the 12 tribes of Isreal. Isreal was under the Law we gentiles were not. God bless
  • Kenneth Redden - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    According to the apostle Paul in 2Peter 3:3-8, Galatians 3 is from the third day of Creation, when Jesus had come by water only. Until Christ came by the water and the blood, as He did today, the first and only fourth day of the Creation, sin was unforgiven; however, the "faith" referenced is not your: it belongs to Jesus Christ.
  • Stan - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    "For by Grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God. Not of works lest any man should boast". So we know from these verses that our Salvation is by Grace not works. It also cannot be by both Grace and works because Grace and works are opposites. As the apostle Paul tells us again, "And if by Grace then is it no more of works otherwise Grace is no more Grace. But if it be of works then is it no more Grace otherwise work is no more work." ( Romans 11:6) So unless your willing to call the apostle Paul a liar we have to conclude that our Salvation is only by grace, not by works. Jesus doesn't decide our Salvation, we do. We decide whether we want to believe in Jesus and confess Him as our Lord and Savior. It's a conscious decision we each need to make: Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God hath raised Him from the dead. You do not need baptism to be saved. That's all a part of the works trip religion.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Paul - Yes we can not be saved without baptism, however getting the body wet is not it.

    Mark Chapter 1: 6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, ...

    7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.

    8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he (Jesus) shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

    Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

    1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (of the Spirit)

    Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
  • Paul - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Where in the Bible are we taught, God did for us what we could not do ourselves? How does grace come to us? By faith. Unless you believe James is a liar, Faith without works is dead. You can't have grace without faith. If you understood the full context of the Bible you will see we are saved by grace and works. I say again, unless you believe James is liar. But in the end, our salvation will be decided by He who took upon Him the sin of the world so whether we follow Him in good works unto grace, the Master will decide our salvation, not us. Therefore may not man boast in his own good works for God is Christ. And if you or I do any good works, it by His grace. You cannot be saved without baptism. I'll gladly point that out to you in the Bible.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Ephesians 3 - 5 years ago
    The church was not in the old testament you say?

    Acts Chapter 7: 36 He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of EGYPT, and in the RED SEA, and in the wilderness forty years.

    37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

    38 This is he, that was in the CHURCH church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount (SINAI) Sina, and [with] our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

    39 To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust [him] from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

    (this shows the church crossed the red sea with Moses in the wilderness)

    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
  • Rod - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Being saved by grace means God did for us (sinners) what we could not do for ourselves. He died for our sins, was buried & rose agian from the dead. That is the grace message. It's not of works lest any should boast.
  • Alex on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Now unto abraham and his seed was the Promise made,but he says not unto seeds plural but unto 1 seed which is Christ thus its Christ that is gonna be Multiplied as the stars of heaven,thats y the sower wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts that it might initiate a birth of Christ in US n the Child is the H.G. AS THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT IS SPIRIT.Ya gotta realize that the FATHER was so passionate about this great Promise that he swore by his very self. Thats y Jesus refers to the H.G as th PROMISE he is the multiplication of Christ/GOD ( SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MANCHILD THAT IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS WE ARE THE WOMAN TH CHILD IS TH H.G. NOTE: THE KINGDOM COMES WITH TH BIRTH OF THE MANCHILD which is soon Rev 12 v 10. Unless ya receive th kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.The lil child implies a heavenly birth via that good seed th Word these heavenly children are the Israel of God The Children of Promise,The new covenant is gonna get louder n louder.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Galatians 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Carol: when you are born again; Jesus took all that generational curses ( Deuteronomy 28) on himself. It's part of the first Covenant. We have a new and better covenant. Jesus as the lamb of God performed the 'walking through the blood' part of a new covenant'.

    He shows us in Matthew 12 that it is not sinful to perform work to eat a meal or to stop off on your way to church to get your goat out of ditch.

    We are no longer under the law. The law is a school master to teach us what it is/was.

    Some may disagree with me but I think if you have to work weekends then you can attend church on a Wednesday. We are told not to forsake ASSEMBLING together. If you attend on a Wednesday, God knows where you are and you are available to encourage other believers.

    People are not always agreeable with this thought. If I'm wrong I will apologize.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Galatians 3:13 - 5 years ago
    Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

    Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
  • Carol moran on Galatians 3:13 - 5 years ago
    So there is no such thing as generational curses
  • Obbie BEAL on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    29 and if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. ...thank GOD for John 3:16, thereby all mankind has access to the PROMISE / SALVATION.
  • Donald P Kraics on Galatians 3 - 5 years ago
    Galations 3:31 Proves that if you take Jesus' body and blood and have faith in Jesus then you must observe the law The 10 Commandments and original Holy Days
  • Tom on Acts 17:26 - 5 years ago
    No matter how one reads it, whether "one race," "one blood," or "one family," the meaning is the same: all men are descended from a single ancestor, Adam. Adam named Eve as the "mother of all living" ( Genesis 3:20); and the proof of this is evidenced by many things, one of these being the ability of a man of any race to provide a blood transfusion for a man of any other race. Though types may appear the oneness and brotherhood of man are affirmed in Acts17:26; and this was a principle far above anything the Greek philosophers ever dreamed of. Of course, the physical oneness of all men is the unity in view here as in Galatians 3:28; "There is neither Jew nor Greek/ neither male nor female:"
  • Curtis Stewart - In Reply on James 1 - 5 years ago
    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."rnThe promises were made ONLY to Abrahams SEED, therefore those "Greeks" had to be Israelites!! No other way around it.rnProof: Romans 9:3 " For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my BRETHREN, my KINSMEN according to the FLESH:rnrn4 Who are ISRAELITES; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the PROMISES;"rnTHE PROMISES WAS MADE TO THE DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM ONLY..AND EVERYTHING ELSE PERTAINS TO REAL ISRAELITES..NOT THOSE IN ISRAEL TODAY. Christ said His ppl would go into slavery. Luke 21:24
  • Curtis Stewart - In Reply on James 1 - 5 years ago
    Did you guys even realize that those GREEKS mentioned in scriptures, were indeed ISRAELITES?
    The scripture said there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW NOR GREEK!! So WHY would it make a comparison between ONLY those TWO nation of people..and didnt even mention the other nations of the world?
    Do you even understand WHY there were Israelites LIVING in Greece? Here is why, Joel 3:6 "The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye SOLD UNTO THE GRECIANS, that ye might remove them far from their border."
    CLEARLY, THIS is how these Israelites ended up in Greece.
    Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's SEED, and heirs according to the PROMISE."
    Promis made to israel
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 5 years ago
    Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
    Ah yes the Babylonian Talmud (mystery babylon?) Talmud mean learning so Babylonian Learning.
    the tradition of the elders Jesus spoke against. Jesus speaking Mark Chapter 7: 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
    8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
    9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
    Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition,


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