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True God: ( 1 John 5:20) - This is a direct assertion that Jesus, being the true God, is not only divine, but is the Divine. Because the Bible says there is only one God, this is describing His nature as part of the triune God.

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." The Son is called "God."

I Am: ( John 8:58, with Exodus 3:14) - When Jesus ascribed to Himself this title, the Jews tried to stone Him for blasphemy.

2 Pet. 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"

"our God and our Saviour"

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Severe penalty for denying Jesus.

Matthew 10:22, 2 Thessalonians 2:10.

Hi Edward. Whenever you see LORD in caps, it refers only to God the Father and specifically to Yahweh (or, Jehovah). It is the Covenant Name of the God of Israel which He declared to them ( Exodus 3:14,15).

Hiya Marsha...Plz let me give ya this bit of information....When Moses was on the back side of the desert in Exodus 3:15....God tells Moses that his name was Abraham Issac and Jacob and my memorial to all Generations....And this was after that Abraham had already offered up his only son Issac and Moses knew this very well....But this speaks volumes of a Kingdom coming that wd be a Father Son and Grandson type of kingdom just like Abraham Issac and Jacob where the son wd be offered up resulting in the multiplication of that son that wd be as the stars of Heaven in multitude saving this whole world.

......I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven in multitudes... Genesis 22:17....Thus an Israel of God fathered by a Trinity.

......If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me....An Israel of God that cannot sin...Simply b/c they are born of God.

.....Thus Abraham Issac and Jacob are truly a picture of the Godhead as a Trinity....3 Distinct beings but the 1 singular FATHER of Israel....And they became as the sands of the seas in multitudes....Just like Jesus is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven in multitudes....Thus the sower and his precious seed...The words of that New Covenant...The Book that he wrote with his own blood.

.......Marsha if you read Isaiah 11 :1 ....You will see Isaiah who lived approx. 200 yrs after Jesse David and Solomon had long Died....Is still using this Jesse, David and Solomon kingdom as a kingdom coming in the last days When God sets his hand a 2 nd time to recover the remnant of his ppl...In Isaiah 11:11 kjv....Isaiah was still using this Father Son and Granson language for a kingdom coming again the last day....That 2 nd coming ...God wd not let David the son build that great Temple....God wd only let Solomon the Granson build the temple....B/c Solomon is symbolic of the 3 rd person the H.G. THAT IS GONNA BUILD THE TEMPLE IN MANS HEARTS....A greater then Solomon is here Jesus said....I will give them a new heart and etc.

Great If you continue you may receive the Holy Ghost ( read correctly and ask GOD for his revelation of what you are reading 0

This book is great so far

David,

Yes, that is what the Hebrew says in Exodus 3:14, I will be what I will be, but in the very same verse, God says to tell the children of Israel I AM has sent me unto you. In Exodus 3:13, Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say unto me, What is His name? What shall I say unto them?

God's response was to tell them I AM has sent you. Jesus also claimed to be the I AM of the Old Testament. I do agree with you that there are so many different interpretations of who the I AM is. I'm not sure about 100, but if ours is different than those 100 scholars, I guess we can bump that number up to 102!

We'll Alex, Exodus 3:15 does not answer my question. Verses 13, 14, Ana 15 can be amen together and it's easy to see that God is not telling Moses His name is Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

I have read through your explanation and it still doesn't add up. I will leave off from this conversation as the things you are saying are very foreign to me and I would have to throw away many years of study and start from scratch to be able to come up with the same things you are sharing. Right now I believe the Lord is putting it on my heart to stay completely clear from these things.

And by the way, God does not have any grandchildren!

Jesse its Exodus 3:15....This is my name forever and my and my memorial to all generations....God is being very specific in that Abraham Issac and Jacob were 3 distinct beings...But the 1 singular Father of Israel...Moses is being sent to Israel...Just like the Godhead is three ....Father son and Granson (the H.G.) That heavenly Jacob....And just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas....So GOD will be multipliied as the stars of Heaven....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods many plural and the scripture cannot be broken....Do you not see the multiplication of Christs Seed is gonna be many Gods which is the H.G. plural many....As i will pour out of my SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH....Which is the gift of the H.G the Promise to all flesh....After the book is opened...They all sang a new song....We are not gonna sing this churchanity song much longer...gbu

Hi Mary. In your question, I see two different messages there.

a. In Exodus 3:13,14, Moses asks God what Name shall he give them, when they ask, "What is his name - this God of their fathers?" Here, God tells Moses to tell them that His Name is "I AM THAT I AM". I AM the Self-existent One, the same God Who was with your fathers.

b. Now the rest of your question is not found in the Bible, but some scholars(?) & rabbis take the word, LORD, as in Exodus 3:15 "The LORD God of your fathers" & refer to it particularly. In Hebrew, LORD is Yahweh (YHWH), & it is claimed (I believe erroneously), that YH & WH also constitute the breathing sounds when spoken. That is, YH is the sound/act of inhalation, & WH the sound/act of exhalation. And of course, this belief then develops into other absurdities, such as a baby's first cry being God's Name or even in human's natural breathing, we are speaking out God's Name.

So Mary, I would just stick to God's Word for all you need to know about our great God, His Name & His wonderful Works and leave off what the world tries to add to it, diluting it & suffocating it with nonsense. The LORD's Name can be spoken & praised using His Names given in the Bible & this is acceptable to Him (in whatever language) and not with some mystical meaningless thoughts added to it.

Thanks Alex. I got that reference ( Exodus 3:15). You may have missed my reply further up the thread when you mentioned that reference rather than the one I took as an example ( Exodus 4:5). So in that comment I gave to you, I mentioned that you changed what God said (I AM the God of Abraham, etc.) to My Name is Abraham, etc. I realize you gave your explanation as to why you believe God's Name is Abraham, etc., but you haven't explained why you've changed the wording & meaning. Just to support a belief doesn't warrant changing a verse to suit that belief. A belief must arise from the Word given & understood in its normal sense.

Dear Q & T. Your whole comment seems to be based on Exodus 3:14, "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." Until a clear understanding of "I AM THAT I AM" is had, your other developments of this "I AM", remains only a personal belief & opinion.

So what you suggest: "I am the king(dom) in you; I am the being of everybody; I am Abraham, etc, etc.", are simply the use of 'I AM" in other contexts, but avoids the meaning of "I AM" that God spoke about Himself & His Name. If God's Name (I AM) is applied to all & sundry, then we are all gods or equal standing with the Almighty. And I would certainly withstand such a heresy. If the "I AM" that God spoke is different to what you're suggesting, then the comments you made about it's wider application are irrelevant.

And just back to Romans 8:29: man was not "predestinated to become the image of Christ". Adam was made in the Image of God - he fell & that Image was marred by sin. Till the coming of Jesus, His Sacrifice & the reception of the Holy Spirit, no one has ever received the Image of Christ. Only those whom God foreknew who would come to the Cross in faith, did God plan for Christ's Image to be conformed to them (Gk. summorphos: to display a similar behavior from having the same essential nature). The world never receives this, nor will they ever receive that Image if they have not the Holy Spirit.

So, your use of "I AM" in those various ways you suggested and your understanding of Romans 8:29, I would disagree with. To suggest that God is/will be in everyone & all will be conformed to Christ's Image, is not my understanding of the Bible.

Thanks Alex. I simply used Exodus 4:5, in the absence of a Scripture from you. But I'll now refer to Exodus 3:15 which you gave, and that is, "And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations?"

If we focus on this verse alone, I can somewhat see where you get the idea that God's Name is Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. Unfortunately, this verse doesn't stand alone; in most cases with Scripture we have to read around the verse addressed to learn the context & meaning. Remember when Moses spoke to God & said that when he goes to the children of Israel, they will ask him, "What is his name?" (v13). And God replies at verse 14, "I AM THAT I AM - I AM (hath sent me unto you)." This is God's Name.

Now to get to your type of 'trinity' (i.e. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, & then relating that to Father, Son & Grandson) shows an incorrect understanding of Exodus 3:13-15. I don't believe in the normal reading of these verses, that anyone would think of such an application & further developing into your beliefs. When God said, "this is my name forever", God was speaking about the Name he gave to Moses to give to Israel - which is I AM THAT I AM. But if one is compelled to force your interpretation to it, then God's Name is, "The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob" - His Name is the LORD God, & not 'my Name IS Abraham, Isaac & Jacob'. So even here, you've taken out 'OF' & inserted 'IS'. So I see an important word change that you've made. And if you want to retain 'OF', then it equally makes no sense as God's Name.

Alex, please re-read that passage as given & not to support some variant theology that leads further away from Truth.

Adam,

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The word Elohim is plural, but the verb created is singular and if to support the triune God it should read Gods and there are not three Gods. That would be for another topic.

John 8:58 I am, I exist or existed before Abraham. Exodus 3:14 I AM THAT I AM if I remember, I will be what I will be, it is also close to God's name YHWH. I don't see tying these two together.

From our conversation which I have enjoyed, I do not see an agreement. The one thing about this doctrine, statement of faith whatever you call it I feel is wrong it has been placed above salvation that is in Jesus Christ only. If one does not believe it, it is heresy, you may feel it is. I have been told in more than one church. I hear the word used on this site. And there is not one scripture that says it, nor was it taught by any of the apostles.

In my opinion, it has been made law and it is like Acts 15 You must be circumcised to be saved. Jesus is the only begotten son of God, and God the Father has placed Him above all, and Jesus will reign until all enemies are put under His feet.

God the Father has turned all control to His Son that is what we see in Rev. 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Which is all-powerful, supreme, absolute, unlimited, invincible, until He turns it back over to the Father, Cor.15:25-28 Rev. 20:14

I honor the Son for what He gave up, lived in this flesh, what He suffered, and the blood He shed, was nailed to that cross. He was put in a tomb and three days later God the Father raised Him from the dead giving us the only chance of salvation and eternal life and nothing can be placed above that.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Ronald,

I'm not able to follow your thought process on all your points, but some. I think most of your points fall within the same logic/belief that Jesus prayed and referred to the Father as "God" and even prayed to "God" therefore how can Jesus be God and pray to Himself? Am I understanding your position accurately? If so, I think most of your "If Jesus is God..." arguments seem to fall within this one overall assumption.

The thing missing from this assumption is that Jesus is not in His normal state. He became a man to go to earth to live as us and to die for our sins. John 1. Yes, Jesus prayed to God the Father. I believe He limited His power to a degree to live on Earth like us. I think He could have exercised His power, but chose not to. Example: Matthew 26:53.

Philippians 2:6 - this says Jesus is equal to God. Verse 7-8 says he humbled Himself as a servant as a man. v9-11 then Jesus was exalted, that every knee will bow and confess Jesus is Lord, name above all other names.

If you believe the Bible when it says that says Jesus created all things ( John 1:3 ), is equal to God ( phil 2:6), is one with God ( John 10:30), is God ( John 1:1), has a name above all other names ( Phil 2:9-11), should be baptized in His name ( Matthew 28:19) then is it such a stretch to believe that's true?

Simply believing what the Bible says is not a 'doctrine' as some claim, but those believing things the Bible doesn't say is definitely a human doctrine.

I get that people have a hard time comprehending that God is plural and how exactly that words out. We will find out in the end. But just because people don't understand 1 John 5:7 doesn't mean it's not true. Truth is true regardless of whether people choose to believe it or not.

John 8:58 - What do you think Jesus meant when he said "I am"?

Exodus 3:14 - What do you think of God saying "I am"?

John 5:23 - strong warning to anyone who dishonors Jesus.

God bless.

David calls upon his soul and all that is in him to bless the Lord. The Lord blesses us, but how can we "bless" Him? In this context, the term "bless" means "to praise with strong affection." By calling upon his soul and all that is within him to praise the Lord, David summons his soul, mind, strength, and heart to praise Him ( Deuteronomy 6:4; Matthew 22:36-40).

David also gives a reason to praise the Lord: He is holy. He is completely separate from sin. When the Lord appeared to Moses in a burning bush and commissioned him to demand that Pharaoh release the Hebrews from captivity, He told Moses to remove his sandals because he was standing on holy ground ( Exodus 3:5). The ground was holy only because God was present there. Isaiah received a revelation of the Lord's holiness in the temple. He heard the seraphim pronounce, "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts" ( Isaiah 6:3). Praising the Lord for His gracious gifts to us is appropriate, but it is also appropriate to praise Him because He is holy.

Psalm 103:1-5 records David commanding his entire inner being to praise the Lord and to remember all the Lord's benefits. He credits the Lord with forgiveness of sin and healing of diseases. He says the Lord redeems the believer's life from the realm of the dead and bestows on him steadfast love, mercy, satisfaction, and renewal.

Psalm 103 praises God for what He has done. This includes celebration of His personal influence, as well as the way God has blessed the nation of Israel. David encourages praises from himself, from the people in general, and even from the angels and hosts of heaven.

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Hi Phoenix. There are several Scriptures, where both God & Jesus use the phrase "I Am". But it's special reference is given in Exodus 3:13-15, when Moses asks God what name should he use when he speaks to the Israelites caught in Egyptian bondage. By this time, the Israelites had long forgotten the LORD or may have some recollection of Him from stories handed down. So Moses realizes that this question will likely come up, asking, "Who is this God that has sent you to us?" Could this God be some Egyptian god?

God then tells Moses that He is the "I AM THAT I AM", or loosely translated, "I Am (what I have always been & always will be), the One who is Self-Existent, Self-Sufficient, Self-Enduring.

God then tells Moses to tell the Israelites that "The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations." So now they will also know that this Eternal God was also the One Who was with their fathers, Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. Hopefully, now they begin to piece it all together & know that God is no local deity, but the LORD (YHWH), the God who was not only with their fathers, but also to be with them now, to deliver them with a mighty Hand & an outstretched Arm ( Deuteronomy 26:8).

Moses meeting with GOD, Exodus 3:2-14, Exodus 24, Exodus 33, Exodus 40,

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Thanks Giannis.

In the past I've used that analogy of the puzzle pieces. The Gospel paints a picture starting from Genesis.

The problem often comes when one have a picture in mind and try to fit pieces of the puzzles together that don't belong so they have to reshape the surrounding pieces to there liking, usually by spritualizing all the pieces/scripture, or they take one piece of a puzzle/scripture that represents their picture and try to fit it in a 1000 piece puzzle that it doesn't belong to, so they reshape the 1000 pieces by spritualizing.

Here's an example.

Who's the writer referring to here?

"Therefore my people" are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.

Isaiah 5:13.

I've heard it taught that this was all of creation. ( A piece of puzzle that don't even fit the chapter or anywhere else in the 66 books. )

But if they would let the scripture say what it is saying you would find the answer throughout the chapter, especially verse 7.

"For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry"

Isaiah 5:7.

Here's just a few of many other puzzle pieces.

Exodus 3:10.

Exodus 5:1.

Exodus 8:23.

Leviticus 26:12.

1 Samuel 2:28-29.

1 Kings 6:12-13.

Isaiah 1:3.

Isaiah 10:24.

Isaiah 14:25.

Jeremiah 1:16.

Jeremiah 2:11.

Ezekiel 11:20.

Ect...

There's hundreds that reference Isaiah 5:13. to Israel!!

And Hosea 2:23 suggests God's not done with them. Also Romans 11:1.

God is in the generation of the righteous. Psalms 14:5.

We become his people by seeking him, not everyone will do this.

Zachariah gives a distinction between between the heathen nations and God's people. Zachariah 8:7.

Another distinction.

Mathew 7:21-23. You can't be his people and he not know you.

Heresies are built this way.

God bless.

The appearance of Deity in the Old Testament brought humbling responses. When the Lord appeared to Moses from a burning bush, Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look at God ( Exodus 3:1-6). When Isaiah saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, he cried out, "Woe is me! For I am lostfor my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts" ( Isaiah 6:5). When the prophet Daniel received a vision of the glorious Christ, his strength left him. He fell into deep sleep with his face to the ground. However, an angel touched him and told him not to fear ( Daniel 10:8-12).

When the apostle John saw the glorified Christ, he fell at His feet as though dead ( Revelation 1:17). However, the Lord responded by telling Him not to fear. He identified himself as He did in verse 8 as the first and the last. Because believers are united by faith to Him, who is eternal, they too have nothing to fear.

Lots of people have seen Jesus in visions. I have. He is seated at the right Hand of God, making intercession for all believers who will come to Him.

I can tell jaw dropping testimonies of Jesus's intervention but it is by the Holy Spirits unction that I do. We are His disciples and it is Jesus who deserves the praise and thanks.

We don't wait TO FEEL like praising and worshipping and honoring Jesus. He is worthy to receive it always.

This is a fascinating thing. I heard a sermon one time saying the words spoken about "if someone sees the face of GOD they cannot live" he said "they cannot live, the same" Is this the question you're looking deeper into? Genesis 32:20,30, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 34:28-30,35,

It would be very interesting to do a study on the words. Exodus 3:6, Exodus 33:20,23, Numbers 6:25, Deuteronomy 5:1-5, Deuteronomy 31:17,18, Deuteronomy 32:20, Deuteronomy 34:10, Judges 6:22, 1Kings 13:6, 1Chronicles 16:11, 2Chronicles 7:14, 2Chronicles 30:9, Psalms 13:1, Psalms 17:5, Psalms 22:24, Psalms 105:4, Isaiah 54:8, Isaiah 59:2, Jeremiah 21:10, Ezekiel 20:35,

Perhaps it's the word "man" that the emphasise is. Romans 8:14, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 12:7, John 1:12, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1,2 , 1John 4:15, How sad it is when a living father says "see his face no more" or turns his face.

Genesis 3:8-10, interestingly, in this translation it says they heard "the voice of the LORD" they "hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God"

What's amazing is: Genesis 4:16, it appears even though they were cast out of the garden GOD's presence was still with them.

Psalms 139, Job 4:15,

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GOD is = GOD , Genesis 1,

GOD is = GOD ALMIGHTY, Genesis 17:1, Genesis 28:3, Genesis 35:11, Genesis 48:3,

JEHOVAH, Exodus 6:3, FATHER : Matthew 23:9, Matthew 6:6-10, GOD of thy father, GOD of Abraham, GOD of Isaac, GOD of Jacob, Exodus 3:6,

Many times GOD is referred to by what HE has done: GOD that sees; Genesis 16:13, GOD that provides,

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Dear Marie, The name Jehovah or Yahweh are two pronunciations of the name YHWH that God gave to Moses in Exodus 3:14 which means I AM THAT I AM or ever-living, self-existent One. It is not certain how to exactly say the name God spoke to Moses. In Hebrew there (and Greek and Latin) "J" was not a letter in their alphabet. This does not mean that the "j" sound was absent from their language, but the sound was not spelled with a letter "J". I prefer to use the word Yahweh as a pronunciation because of this, but I do think that the first sound in the either word may have been a sound that was a combined JY type of sound (think J-Y-A-Y as the first sound, squishing all these sound together in a breathy way.) But I may be totally wrong on this. Hebrew became a dead language by the time of the birth of Jesus and few really knew how to read or speak it. I think this was so because as a result of the captivities in Babylon of the Judah and Assyria of Israel hundreds of years before Christ's birth. Also, the name YHWH was considered to holy to say or write by the Jews, so they substituted LORD (Adonai) or God (G-d) in place of YHWH in the Tanakh (Hebrew Old Testament).

Yashua or Yeshua are both Hebrew names for the name Jesus (which is Anglicized, I believe). You will find Jesu in used in Spanish speaking people.

God owns all of His revealed names, not any sect or language group. So, we should be happy to use any of these for our Triune God.

Hope this helps.

Hi Gigi.

Thanks for replying! sorry for my delay in responding, I also have been mostly only checking in from time to time and picked up on some unfinished projects at the house.

Concerning the notion that we all will become Gods and birth the Holyspirit is a dangerous heresy in my opinion.

I agree with you 100 percent on everything you said!

That doctrine is a dangerous doctrine to hold.

And the hermeneutics he uses is also dangerous, He spiritualize everything to bend scripture to his views.

What's so dangerous is some things are allegory and types, but when you spiritualize EVERYTHING those treasures get lost and so do the truth, you're left without out Gods devine word and left with speculation and perspectives!

I debated with him about a year and a half ago. This is what I've learned.

His base doctrine derives an flawed interpretation of Exodus 3:13-15.

"Here's his interpretation;

He says this text says God's "name" is Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.

He disregard the I AM THAT I AM in vs 14.

He says this is a picture of the Trinity. ( Israel ) and he says the seed shall come though them. Christ.

But he says the church is spiritual Israel and that seed "Christ" is planted in us and we birth the Holyspirit.

This is another example of someone shaping their theology around a viewpoint and bending scripture to support it.

A year and a half ago he was presenting this but cautiously.

After the debate focusing on Exodus 3:14. he left the site for about 4 months and just returned about 2 weeks ahead of you. He would post sparingly but we paid him not much attention and the newbies ignored his strange doctrine.

Now he's the boldest he has ever been!!

I was saddened when he left the first time and asked about him.

When he came back I was happy to hear from him but later understood he held that same doctrine.

I decided not to give him Godspeed.

God bless you sister Gigi.

Please read: Numbers 14:18, Numbers 14:19, Deuteronomy 7:9, 2Peter 3:9,



Numbers 20:7-12, is a portion of the whole story & reason.

Let's look at the bigger picture:

Numbers 20:12, please note it says "Because you believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore._._" , Please read Exodus, Moses' doubts: Exodus 3:11,13, Exodus 4:1,3,10,14, Exodus 4:24-26, Exodus 5:22, Exodus 6:12, Exodus 6:30, Exodus 14:11-15, Exodus 16:2-28, Exodus 17:2-7, Exodus 32:11-19,30,31,32,33, Exodus 33:1-3, Numbers 11:1-15, mercy ( Numbers 11:16-20,) Numbers 11:21-23, * Numbers 13, Numbers 13:30,31,32, * Numbers 14, very significant I believe, when they were supposed to take the promised land please read Numbers chapters 13 & 14, & notice: Numbers 13:30, Numbers 14:24, Numbers 14:22-23,

Psalms 95:6-11, note Psalms 95:10-11,

Hebrews 3:5-19, Luke 13:24, Mark 10:15,

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Thanks GiGi. I could only learn this from referring to the Hebrew text (& translation), where in Genesis 2:4 the Hebrew clearly shows "in the day that the LORD (YHWH) God (Elohim) made the earth and the heavens". And not being a Hebrew reader, I can only read it as given, that it is 'God Who is YHWH', Who has done all these things & now communing with man & woman.

Given that the Genesis writer is generally accepted as being Moses (written between 1450 & 1410 BC), where he would have been given special grace to relate these events that he personally had not experienced, it could be that God was already showing him that 'special' connection to His people Israel, yet future, was already set in Adam & Eve.

Yet, would all those living pre-Moses (i.e. pre- Exodus 3:13,14), even know that 'special' Name? Exodus 6:3, says that the 'Name YHWH was not known to the patriarchs'. And yet we know that they were aware of it, like Abraham ( Genesis 15:7; Genesis 22:14), Jacob ( Genesis 27:20) & others knew that Name. But did they only know OF that Name but did not know Him fully, the full depth of understanding of the Name, YHWH? This debate probably still goes on. But when the children of Israel were in slavery in Egypt for over 400 years, that Name which should have been remembered & faithfully passed on, was forgotten, hence their need for an urgent reminder by Moses.

And "why should the Israelites listen to Moses & trust God?" There were four tokens of identification of this 'forgotten' God: the one of His Name ( Exodus 3:14, I AM: I've read that it is the inner meaning of YHWH - I Am the One Who Is); the one of the rod/serpent ( Exodus 4:1-5); the one of the leprous hand ( Exodus 4:6-8); & the one of the river of blood ( Exodus 4:9). I guess that any one or all of these signs should have confirmed Moses' call without any dispute & revealed to the Israelites unequivocally Who the One was Who had heard their cries & come to save them.

Hi Chris, very good analysis. Thanks. I just read Genesis 2:2 and it does not say LORD God. Are you meaning Exodus 3:6?

Hello Gitai. That's a good question, as these differences in the use of God (as a Name), can be found right through the Scriptures.

In the references you gave, we can understand & know the meaning of the various names given. In Genesis chapter 1, the author refers to God as 'God' (or, Elohim). Elohim, is a general name for the True God, as it can also be used to depict other gods (e.g. Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12), of angels ( Psalm 8:5), of men ( Psalm 82:6), of judges/rulers ( Exodus 21:6)). So, in relation to God's creative Work, the Name Elohim was given here. And of course, Elohim is also used of the True God elsewhere in the Bible, where creating is not signified (e.g. Genesis 35:7).

But in Genesis chapter 2 we see the use of the word, LORD (or, Yahweh), & this signifies a special revelation & a special relationship to Israel: 'Yahweh' means the active, self-existent One (as in Exodus 3:14, where the word is connected to the verb, 'to be') & also being Israel's Redeemer ( Exodus 6:6). So the use of the word, LORD, signifies this True God (Elohim) is not distant (as seen by His other Works), but is now revealed in a most personal way to Israel as LORD (Yahweh); hence combining the two words to read, LORD God. And from Genesis 2:2 onwards, this Name is used to signify the commencement of a personal interaction with His creation.

And when we read the word, 'Lord', this means 'master, lord, sovereign' (as in Genesis 15:2). Hence we can have a variety of combinations: God, LORD God, Lord God, each one depicting what the author has received from God that has to be revealed to the reader (chiefly, Israel in the OT references). And of interest, this God Who is a personal God, is also experienced in many ways in that relationship. Hence, we get compound Names of Yahweh, such Yahweh-Jireh (the God Who will see to it; or provides); Yahweh-Shalom (the God Who gives peace); & many other compound Names.

Hello again Shanekia,

Jehovah or Yahweh are variants on the Hebrew name for God: YHWH This name was given by God as HIs name for the Israelites in Egypt to know him by when He called Moses from the burning bush in the backside of the desert near Mt. Sinai (Horeb). When Moses asked God by what name shall He tell the Israelites He is. God said YHWH; which means I AM THAT I AM or I AM WHO I AM or I WILL BE WHOM I WILL BE. All of these names speak to His eternal existence and self-existence, meaning that God never had a beginning and no one (or nothing) else gave Him existence. That is why Jesus says that He is the Life and that He and the Father have life within themselves. They are the source of life because they are Life of Existence Itself.

In Exodus 3:6 where God gives this name, He also identifies Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob so that Moses knows that He is the same God that related to these forefathers that he and the Israelites knew about. God also identifies Himself as God Almighty or The Most High, as He was known to Abraham and others before revealing this name to Moses.

These names reveal something about God's nature to us, but these are all names of the One True God. So, most likely Moses relayed to the Israelites this new name (YHWH) and informed them that the God of their forefathers is this same God YHWH.

As opposed to what? Destroying the evil? Genesis 6:5-6,11,12, He did that in Noah's day: Genesis 6:7-9, Genesis chapters 6-9,

Genesis 8:21-22, Gen. 9:9-17, therefore HE made a covenant of mercy. Yet HE also makes promises of giving an "account"

Genesis 9:5-6, Psalms 37, Isaiah 61:3, Romans 12:9, Hebrews 10:30, Jude 1:7,

It's like this Genesis: GOD gave dominion to man over the Earth, including sea. Gen. 1:28, It's a ' stewardship ' that all men will give an account for. Matthew 25:31-46, yet the Earth still belongs to GOD : 1Corinthains 10:26,

GOD gave Moses a set of "Best Laws" That if people obeyed, would cut down on suffering. Instead many have rebelliously rejected, mocked & ignored & refusal to enforce. Whose then to blame for suffering in consequence? Proverbs 3:27,

I think it amazing that GOD intervenes on our behalf so many times. Exodus 3:9, Psalms 12:5,

& ultimately gave us Salvation John 3:16-18, Ecclesiastes 5:8,

Hopefully this is helpful