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Thank you for your response. However, you misunderstood my question. I was not asking why it is that some religions observe the Sabbath on Sunday, rather than on Saturday. My question was regarding what, exactly, is the 4th Commandment. I was taught that it is "Honor thy father and thy mother," and, applied that answer to the question posted in the "Bible Trivia" quiz. I was surprised when my answer turned out to be incorrect. I listed the 10 Commandments in the order in which I was taught. To my understanding of the KJV, as well as the Catholic Version, it would appear that the Fourth Commandment is, "Honor thy father and thy mother," not, "Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy." See rational below:

BOOK OF EXODUS:

Verses 1 - 6 (First Commandment)

Verse 7 (Second Commandment)

Verses 8 - 11 (Third Commandment) "Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy."

Verse 12 (Fourth Commandment) "Honor thy father and thy mother."

Still confused.

The Catholic Church System, changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

God's law never changes that's why it was written on stone. Nowhere in the bible states that God changed his day of rest from Saturday to Sunday. Do some research on the Roman Emperor Constantine. The Seventh Day Adventist Church is the only Christian organization that recognizes and keep Saturday as the Sabbath day, in fulfillment of God's commandments.

Exodus 20 or Deuteronomy 5

These books contain the Ten Commandments. I would compare both.

The Bible is the best reference book to use for study. All the books contained in it, were canonized.

Also, Jesus gave us 2 more commandments in the Gospels.

Chris can tell you details about the process.

Hello, you're on the right book and chapter. You can see Ex 20:3,4,7 lists the first 3 commandments which occur before keeping the Sabbath. So, you can read it clearly in the chapter and it should answer your question about the order.

I was raised in the RC tradition, and taught that the 4th Commandment is "Honor thy father and thy mother." Why, in this Bible trivia, is the 4th Commandment "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy?" In the RC tradition, that is the 3rd Commandment. I compared this chapter of the King James version, with the Douay Rheims version, and, both versions seem to state the 4th Commandment as I was taught. I am confused. Please clarify this for me. I was taught the Commandments as follows:

1. I am the LORD thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD, thy God in vain.

3. Remember thou keep holy the sabbath day.

4. Honor thy father and thy mother.

5. Thou shalt not kill.

6. Thou shalt not steel.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8. Thou shalt not bear false witness of thy neighbor.

9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods.

There are two sets of Ten Commandments. Exodus 20:1-17 and Exodus 34:10-28.

TWICE Moses went upon the mountain and did not eat or drink for 40 days!

The 10 Commandments of Exodus 34:10-28 are specifically referred to as "the ten commandments" ( Exodus 34:28, Deuteronomy 4:13, 10:4)

There are differences in the two sets of Commandments. Which set are we to follow? Are we to combine them?

If animals such as lamb are forbidden, then why do they eat it at their holy feast

Thou shall have no other gods before me. God admit that he is a jealous God, which mean, our God will not accept his people worshipping anything, other then himself. Do not worship money, cars jewelry, houses, yourself nor man.god didn't accept it back then and he definitely will not accept it now.stay true to God and he will take care of you; if you disrespect him your name will be taken out of the lambs book of life. In reference to exodus chapter 20.

Victoria,

Concerning the 7th day of the week and the 1st day of the week

The Hebrew definition of the word "week," or "weeks," simply means "sevened."

The Greek definition of the word "week" is defined as "Sabbath," i.e. the 7th day (of a seven day period); the day of rest.

The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation ( Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 34:21, etc. etc.) and was never abolished.

( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week.

This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishing of it. It was made to last forever. This is a day that God BLESSED and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

Many use the "first day of the week" spoken of in Acts 20:7, to change the Law of God, but this verse concerns the first Sabbath in reckoning the seven Sabbaths until Pentecost. (i.e. the first day of the Sabbath. Week = Sabbath.

In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH.

Christ never abolished the Sabbath; neither did Paul.

God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed, He would have made it abundantly clear.

Have you considered looking at the Dead Sea Scrolls?

The Book of Enoch, in particular, reveals a 364 day solar priestly calendar.

52 (weeks) x 7 = 364

Look at the first book of Enoch; specifically, ch. 72, and ch. 82 (column 27) are words concerning the ancient solar calendar.

Ray,

The 10 Commandments were given by God to guide mankind as a whole and us individually. If we follow them, we will be blessed.

The second Commandment reveals to us that God is a JEALOUS God ( Exodus 20:5).

Jealous for our love!

If there is a possession or belief you hold higher than your love for your heavenly Father, by all means take the proper steps to change that.

I highly doubt that you are kneeling down and praying to some type of "graven image;" or to anyone other than the Father, and through His only begotten Son.

The 6th Commandment states: Thou shalt not kill ( Exodus 20:13). It means that you cannot "lie in wait" ( Micah 7:2) and murder someone.

The Bible was not originally written in English

The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and the New Testament was written in Greek.

A Bible Concordance gives you English definitions for all the Hebrew and Greek words of the Bible. Around $20.

Keep the Faith!

Wonderful discussions

Kim Burrow

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Paul also wrote that "the Law is not of faith: But the man that doeth them shall live in them" ( Galatians 10:12); quoted from Leviticus 18:5. And Paul immediately reminds us that "Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" ( Galatians 10:13) quoted from Deuteronomy 21:23. Those that hang on trees have transgressed the Law. Paul uses two passages from the Law to show us that we cannot live without the Law?

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

The words of Jesus confirm the 10 Commandments found in the books of the LAW, Exodus 20:1-17, Luke 10:27.

The only people that do not NEED the Law are those that are not sinning. No matter how righteous we may think we are, we all sin every day and are made new (every day) through repentance and forgiveness.

Just because we have been brought to Christ does not mean that we cannot fall away again.

Reply to Matther ch. 1

The lineage found in Matthew ch. 1 is the lineage of Joseph, "the husband of Mary" ( Matt. 1:16). Joseph's father is "Jacob" ( Matt. 1:15, 16). This lineage was established (among other things) to show the regal or king line from which Jesus Christ would come. This line runs from Abraham, through king "Solomon" and ends at Christ, through Joseph, the husband of Mary. The lineage found in Luke ch. 3 is of Mary. The father of Mary was "Heli" ( Luke 3:23). Jesus was "as was supposed" ( Luke 3:23) the son of Heli, which is a legal term meaning "in-law," or "by-law," i.e., Jesus was the legal son of Joseph through marriage. The lineage which ends at Christ through Mary in Luke 3:23-39 runs, not through Solomon, but his brother "Nathan" ( Luke 3:31, 2Sam. 5:13, 14) and brings us all the way back to Almighty God Himself in Luke 3:38. Our Lord and Savior is called the "Son of David" because He was promised to David in ( 2Sam. 7:12, 16).

I jst want to know, Why are their so many Christians puting on facebook a person that looks like Jesus. with blue eyes and long hair and white. I would like to know were can I find that in the Holy Bible, and yet you have so many Christians say Amen on facebook to a person they do not ever know if that is Jesus, when The Holy Bible shows us that we sould not worship any Idols, because we don't know how OUR GOD ALMIGHTY looks. but it does give us some information on how Jesus Christ looks in the book of REVELATION: with eyes red like fire, not Blue, and his kin like find Brass and not White. and why the Bible tell's us all in EXODUS 20:3,4, 5, thou shalt have no other God before me. EXODUS: 20:4, thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image: or any likeness of any thing that is in heacen above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:, EXODUS:20:5, Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them:::, why do then so many Christains continues doing so. ?? that is what I wanted to sak you, Thank you and God bless you all. my brother's and sister's in Jesus Christ.

I would think that a graven image is bad or can lead us astray and that you should not bow down to them or serve them and that the only image that you worship, bow down to and serve is the image of God.

For anyone who believes that picture of family is a graven image; if and when you are asked to blow down to a graven image; then you would see what a graven image really is; and it would not be just pictures of your family. Pictures are not images. That just confuses people so that they will not know when they need to know.

I would say that we have many images in our minds and the main one would be that of family and God and in fact God should be the main one for many reasons. We are or were in the image of God when God created Adam as Adam was without sin, and he talked and walked with God; but when he sinned; he then had the power to know good and to know evil; and decide what to pick and do and what to do to redeem himself; it talks about the tree of life; Jesus died for our sins and through Him, we are forgiven and I would say we must continue to follow him to be redeemed

Forbids the making of graven images, 2 factors here, graven and images. i know that images are more than pictures; and graven relates to the grave i think but i haven't being able to put it together to clearly understand it;

Hi brother, Greetings to you!

This is with regards to your comment on the Sabbath. Right from the creation, God has set apart one day as the Holy Day, A day of rest. He sanctified the Sabbath day, which is the seventh day of the week and not any other day or all the days of the week. We can also see from the commandments written by God Himself to Remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy; Six days you shall work but the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord Thy God( Exodus 20:8-11); It is a covenant sign between God and His Children( Ezekiel 20:20).

However, most of our Fellow Christian friends worship God on the first day of the week, which is merely man made and that day has neither been considered as a day to worship nor God has changed the day of worship from Saturday, the 7th day of the week to Sunday, the first day of the week.

Jesus, while He lived on this earth, kept the Sabbath and went to the church on Sabbath days as His custom was( Luke 4:16). Jesus even said, in Matthew 5:17 that He has not come to destroy the law or the prophets but to fulfill. Jesus also said, if you love Me, keep My commandments( John 14:15). So, its very plain and simple, if you love Jesus, Keep His commandments.

As we live in the last days, there is going to be a time where we all are going to face a testing time with regards to the day of worship. All the end time prophecies as mentioned in the book of Revelation are fulfilling and soon, Sunday law is going to be enforced globally. The Question is whether we are obedient to God's law by observing the Bible Sabbath or following the man made commandments( Revelation 14:12) These are explained definitely not to scare anyone; but the Scripture says, Whoever obeys His words are going to receive the seal of God and the others the mark of the Beast.

The beautiful part is, we are going to observe Sabbaths in Heaven as well!( Isaiah 66:23). So, why don't we start right here on earth! May the Holy Spirit lead you to His truth. Amen.

i like the first and fifth commandment and you should too and this will make you live a everlasting life

this has the ten commandments and it is very good that we have it, it is so amazing that we have them that god made it with his own finger and how it was in a stone it is so overwhelming that is why i love my god he can impossible things that nobody else can do in this world

we need the commandments in our lives and we need to follow them to have everlasting life.

Shannon, I think that this verse is meant to show that God forbids the making of any graven image that represents any creature in His creation. If it does mean something specific, as you suggest, there could be some reference to Genesis 8:2: "The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained". And this reference mentions that at the time of Noah's drifting on the flooded Earth, God stopped the rain & the waters that came from below the Earth.

So, if there was some type of body of water under the Earth at that time, there may be some who believed in some 'mythical' creatures also in existence there, & which could be represented as idols on Earth. So God forbad the making of any image, whether real or imaginative. All speculation on my part, of course.

Water below the earth sounds like something we have no knowledge of still. He didn't say on the earth, he said below.

Does your son still not agree with pictures?

"He sent not another god but the word in the flesh" yes, I can grasp this very well.. it is an interesting concept in general but put this way, I can grasp now ..how and why Christ came to be ...

Thank you so much for your generosity, helping a stranger better grasp the word... very kind. : )

Sincerely,

Brooke

Very good information, thank you kindly.

Thanks for the info

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

Please, you took the time to share some knowledge with me, I am grateful.. mistakes are ok as we are all students of life ..

Very kind of you to share your time and I thank you..

Thank you, that was a very good explanation and it's very much appreciated..

Sincerely...

Brooke