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T. Levis,

Thank you so very much for providing Scripture. I found these, as well:

Zechariah 8:16 - These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:

Ephesians 4:15 - But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Ephesians 4:25 - Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

I will continue to pray that God gives me the right words, the right time, the right way, the right space to talk with him about it.

Who knows. Maybe this is not what has been bothering him all these years, but I pray that it will be reconciled in His Name.

David, In the Old testament we see numerous occasions of the appearance, as a man, of THE ANGEL OF THE LORD.

Christ is the ANGEL OF THE LORD. Above all angels, he is the archangel Michael.

This is a mystery because he can be inside you as the Holy Ghost, or walk in the flesh as a man. His ministry on earth was in sinful flesh, exactly like we have now; but he was resurrected with the same glorified body that he existed in, with the father, from NO BEGINNING.

Angels are God's messengers.

Malachi 2:7 ...for he is the messenger of the Lord ....

Malachi 3:1 ....even the messenger of THE COVENANT ...

John 17:21 ...that the WORLD MAY BELIEVE that thou hast SEND ME.

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY ....

You are the body of Christ.

Moses was the body of Christ.

A mind of FLESH (Satan, lies, deceptions, falsehoods) rules our body (of Christ).

When Christ rebukes Satan (lies, deception, falsehoods) he is bring HIS BODY (us) into subjection to TRUTH.

Mosses, with his mind of flesh, didn't think he was up to the task to be a god ( Exodus 7:1) over pharaoh, Christ rebuked Mosses (Satan, lies, deception,,]falsehoods) and caused him to have knowledge of the TRUTH, Mosses was only the BODY that contained the Spirit of Christ, who would be the god over pharaoh.

Matthew 16:23 ...and he turned, and said unto Peter, get thee behind me, Satan ...

A mind that is OF THE FLESH is in direct opposition to the MIND OF CHRIST, therefore a MIND OF FLESH is ANTI-CHRIST, or a mind of Satan, lies, deceptions and falsehoods.

At the time Mosses and Peter were rebuked, there was a war for their BODY, Christ through the WORK of HIS SPIRIT, cast out the one (Satan, lies, deception, falsehoods) contending for their body, which is CHRIST BODY.

Christ rebukes Satan, our mind of Flesh, controlled by lies, deception, and falsehoods, and we become a new creation, with the mind of Christ, learning that we are the BODY that contains the Spirit of God, who WILL BE the god over this world.

Hello,

1 Corinthians 13:5 - the end of this verse about love (charity) basically means love keeps no record of wrongs. This is all we need to know to discern that keeping lists is wrong: both mental and physical lists.

Hebrews 8:12 - shows that God does this for us, he remembers our sin no more.

Ephesians 4:32, Ephesians 5:22 - we're to forgive others as God has forgiven us, and support husbands.

What you described seems contrary to scripture and I would feel so deeply hurt if someone did that to me. It would feel like an enormous betrayal of trust. It sounds like you followed bad advice and badly hurt your husband and that it has never been resolved. It's the elephant in the room day after day, but you haven't even discussed it since? If you don't want to talk to your own husband about the #1 thing in your life, how will you ever even handle any other problems in life? In a way I would feel like some of the wedding vows would have been violated by this, if it were me.

That's great that you're seeking scripture and input from others as clearly this is weighing on your heart and you already know what is the right thing to do to try to save your marriage.

God bless...

Very interesting question. Only God can forgive sin; but we are told to "confess our sins to one another". ( James 5:16). We are told to reconcile with a brother before "offering a gift before the altar" ( Matthew 5:24). If we bear unforgiveness in our hearts; then the effectiveness of His grace is stunted; for the woman who put the perfume on Christ was forgiven much so she loved much ( Luke 7:47).

All of us individually are accountable before God. We can forgive "seventy times seven" ( Matthew 18:22); and Ephesians 4:32 indicates that we are to forgive others even as God has forgiven us. If we don't forgive others then God won't forgive us according to Matthew 6:14-15. This wouldn't necessarily indicate that we are nonbelievers; but if we don't bear fruit "worthy of repentence" ( Matthew 3:8-10) then we have to seriously test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5).

So the short answer is that God can only forgive others if they are wanting forgiveness. Each of us is judged individually; and since we are not God we don't have the authority as Christ did to forgive sins as the Pharisees stated only God can forgive sins ( John 20:23). Confessing our sins to one another can allow transparency so that the Lord can possibly speak a word of wisdom which in turn gives someone a better understanding of themselves; as well as clearing up what can be a stone wall in relationships ( Prov. 18:19). The best we can do is a formulaic process to give a partial assessment of sins in others as only God knows the intentions and motives of the heart even if the Spirit gives us a glimpse into such things. It is the same as asking can we save anyone by "confessional regeneration". The words are only effective if God grants one repentance first ( Acts 11:18; etc). Indirectly then; forgiving one another allows God to repair the sin or estrangement with Him.

Sister GiGi, you are correct when you said God is spirit.

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit .....

Ephesians 4:6 One God, and Father of all, who is above all, and through you all, and IN YOU ALL.

WE do not have LIFE apart from God.

LIFE can't be seen because it is Spirit, and no one has seen God.

John 14:6 .....I am LIFE and TRUTH .....

What is the only thing left when we PUT OFF THIS BODY of flesh.

SPIRIT, which is LIFE.

John 3:6 That which is born of flesh (man) is flesh (man); and that which is born of SPIRIT (GOD) is SPIRIT (God).

GOD is LIFE, FAITH, TRUTH, MERCY, WISDOM, COUNSEL, UNDERSTANDING, ETC.

Luke 16:4 The disciple is not above his master: but everyone that is PERFECT WILL BE AS HIS MASTER.

You are made PERFECT when you depart this body of flesh, because the only thing that is left is LIFE AND TRUTH.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who (the MASTER) ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto .....

1 Corinthians 15:53 ......this mortal shall PUT ON IMMORTALITY ......

Only Christ has IMMORTALITY, only Christ is LIFE, DWELLING in the LIGHT.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and ALL OF YOU are the children of the most high.

God Bless You!

Thanks Brother Adam.

2 Timothy fits perfectly, Certain teachings derail the Gospel.

And this particular message renders the crucifixion as NOT an act of Love. No one is perfect in their Doctrine because of our ignorance, that's why we continue to grow until we come to a full knowledge of the truth. Ephesians 4:13.

But when one say he already have that full knowledge in these earthy bodies but yet their Doctrine don't line up with none of Gods word, so they spiritualize ALL of scripture.

I don't believe that's innocent ignorance. I believe that's demonic.

Because the result of their Doctrine makes clear scripture looks as if it was lies.

God bless.

Hey Debbie B.

There may be several opinions on this, but does the bible tell us where He was? Jesus said He would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, Matthew 12:40. And He said He would be killed, and after three days rise again, Mark 8:31. One theory starts with 1 Peter 3:18-22. Looking at the context of the chapter it is about doing good and refraining from evil and it is good to suffer for righteousness to have a clean conscience.

If we look at these verses Jesus was put to death in the flesh but quickened by the Spirit. Jesus was raised from the dead in a glorified body and the same Spirit of Him that raised Jesus will raise those who have Christ in them Romans 8:10-11.

Jesus went and preached to spirits in prison who were disobedient in the days of Noah. As far as I know nowhere in scripture is man or saints called spirits, or the dead be in prison, I may be wrong. Why would Jesus only be preaching to those before the flood? The only ones I know that scripture says are in prison in chains of darkness are the angels who left their first estate 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. In the verses, there is nothing to indicate a time frame in which Jesus did this.

My understanding is Jesus was in the grave/tomb until His Father raised Him on the day of the Feast of First Fruits on the first day of the week before the sun came up. There is more scripture like Ephesians 4:8-10 that you can study for your understanding, keep in context of the entire chapter with an open mind and led by the Holy Spirit.

God bless,

RLW

Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "HADES" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the gulf that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in PARADISE to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory

Hey Raymond,

We see this in Matthew 17:1-9 Mark 9:2-10 and Luke 9:28-36, some may believe Moses and Elijah were in heaven and came and appeared, Jesus took Peter, James, and John up to the mountain, He was transfigured before them and Moses and Elijah appeared talking to Jesus.

If we take note of what Matthew writes, "And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead"

It was a vision and a confirmation from God to these three that Jesus is the Son of God and the Law and Prophets will be fulfilled with the death and resurrection of Jesus. Mark 9:10 another place that shows things were hidden from the apostles until the Holy Spirit brought remembrance to them of what things Jesus had told them, John 14:26.

One other thing, Jesus is the Firstfruits of them that slept, 1 Corinthians 15:20. Jesus was the first to be raised from death Acts 2:24. No one has ascended to heaven, John 3:13 and no one will overcome death until Jesus returns on the day of redemption, Ephesians 4:30.

In my understanding of scripture to us today, Moses and Elijah are awaiting the resurrection, with no knowledge or time in death, to them, it has already come.

God bless,

RLW

Darrell, this is the great deception of man:

You don't have a spirit, God is the only Spirit.

This is part of being born INTO TRUTH.

Ephesians 4:4 For there is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT .....

Ephesians 4:4 ONE GOD, and FATHER OF ALL ......

Man is only the body (or vessel) of THE SPIRIT. Of yourself you can do NOTHING.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind (renewing your mind to TRUTH) be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of GOD (a body holding ONE SPIRIT), thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.

There is only ONE LIFE (SPIRIT, GOD).

You are only the vessel that holds that LIFE, when your body dies, only LIFE and TRUTH remain.

You are instantly in the presence of God, because you HAVE been BORN AGAIN by the TRUTH of God's word.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT, LIFE, TRUTH) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ....Christ in you .....(the body)

GBU

Kenneth:

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT ....

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD, and FATHER OF ALL .....

Every man has his being in this ONE SPIRIT, although most haven't come to this TRUTH, YET

Spirit is Life and Truth.

John was not the reincarnation of Elijah, but did the WORKS OF GOD through this One Spirit, this One Power, just as Elijah did; John came in the Spirit of Elijah, but that Spirit is God.

You have you being in this One Spirit, and when this One Spirit wants you to do something, you also will be like Elijah and John and everyone else BORN OF TRUTH.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his pleasure.

GBU

Somefair:

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT ......

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL ......

God is Spirit, Spirit is God, no one can see Spirit, therefore no one can see God.

God (Spirit) is all things that can't be seen: life, faith, love, truth, wisdom, counsel, understanding, mercy, obedience, light (not physical light), ETC.

God wanted all these things to be seen, so he created a BODY, and he placed the FULLNESS of himself in that BODY.

That BODY is CHRIST; that holds the FULLNESS of SPIRIT (God), all of GOD, life, love, faith, truth, ETC. can be seen in Christ. Christ said if you have seen me you have seen my Father.

Christ, is ONLY THE BODY, for he said, the words you hear are not my words, but my Father's words, the work's you see are not my work's but my Father's works, of MYSELF I (the body) can do NOTHING.

We were given that same BODY at Christ resurrection; therefore we must say the same thing as Christ, its not my words you hear but my Father's words, it's not my works you see but my Father's works; of myself I (the body) can DO NOTHING.

Philippians 2:12 For it is God (Spirit) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

He does the same thing in Christ. It's just that Christ knows this TRUTH, therefore he was without sin.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I (Spirit) will put my Spirit IN YOU (Christ), and cause you (Christ) to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements and DO THEM.

Through TRUTH we are being created in to the exactness of Christ, (A BODY) that holds the FULLNES OF SPIRIT.

GBU

Hello Roberta. Not knowing the exact nature of the matter or conflict between you & your granddaughter, I can only share some verses for you to look up & take to heart. I hope that they will minister to you both at your points of need. You can hover over the Scriptures with your mouse/pointing device or look them up in the Bible (also given here on this KJBO Site).

James 4:10; Ephesians 4:31,32; John 15:12; Romans 12:9,10; Philippians 2:3,4; Colossians 3:12-16; 1 Corinthians 13:4-7; Ephesians 4:2,3; Galatians 5:22-26; John 13:34,35 (given to re-emphasize John 15:12).

Interesting question. There is the verse "be angry but don't let the sun down on your anger" ( Ephesians 4:26). This basically means not to harbor grudges; and have righteous indignation. The laundry list of BAD fruits ( 1 Cor. 3:3; Gal. 5:19). Later on in that same chapter; Paul brings up the GOOD fruits; these would include love, joy and peace, kindness; patience etc. Only joy may be considered to be an emotion; so that it would appear emotions generally are not helpful as controlling agents in our lives. True joy comes from the Lord; we can have this in the midst of persecution; and we are asked to be this way when we are persecuted.

( Luke 6:22-23). We are; in fact to be "happy". Now; there are only 3 options for this; we are sadists and like suffering; or we are lying in saying this; or we are living in the Spirit. We are told to "rejoice when others rejoice; weep when others weep." ( Rom. 12:15). This has to do with aligning our will with obedience in serving the Body of Christ.

In general; when we look at the behaviors of all unregenerate men shown in scripture; we see the downfall due to emotions getting the better of people. We; of course have Christ who showed compassion; and on at least 2 occasions he ransacked the Temple due to jealousy for the House of Prayer which was made a den of thieves. This was prophesied in Jeremiah 7:11 and listed as an event in 3 of the Gospel accounts. We also see God laughing at the calamity of the wicked ( Psalm 2 and repeated in several other passages). God has been shown in scripture with seemingly impulsive anger in Exodus when Moses acted to intercede His wiping out all of Israel; and yet He held to the Covenants made with them. He returns to judge in Armageddon; as prophesied in Isaiah 63:3 He tramples the winepress in fury and anger. God's wrath against the wicked is ongoing; continual and eternal for the unregenerate. We do well to live for His Kingdom and conform our emotions accordingly.

Ray, man is a BODY made from dust.

God is LIFE, God is SPIRIT, therefore Spirit is life.

Job 34:14 If he (SPIRIT) set his (Spirit's) heart upon man, if he (Spirit) gather unto himself his (God's) spirit and his (God's) breath;

Job 34:15 ALL FLESH shall perish together, and man shall turn again into dust.

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that the Lord is God of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands,

Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he GIVETH TO ALL life, and breath, and ALL THINGS;

Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations to dwell on the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation.

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY (the vessel that holds life) and one Spirit (the life in the vessel)....

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father OF ALL, who is above ALL, and through ALL, and IN YOU ALL.

Hebrews 12:23 ... and to the spirits of just men MADE PERFECT,

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (LIFE, TRUTH) that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

We are just the vessel that holds God (Life, Truth). Life and Truth cannot die, so when this body of flesh dies Christ gives us HIS BODY. We are joined in union with Christ.

1 Timothy 6:16 ...Who only hath immortality .....

1 Corinthians 15:53 ... and this mortal must PUT ON IMMORTALITY ......

Hi Wendy,

Pray to "God" there is only 1 God, and he knows who he is!

Ephesians 4:6

"One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."

When the disciples asked Jesus to teach them to pray he responded:

Luke 11:2

"And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth."

Jesus asks us to pray to the God the Father, in His Jesus name:

John 16:23

"And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you."

God Bless.

Originally I wrote a post saying that trying to show that "shall be made alive" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 is more than just physical resurrection may be trying to prove too much. But I was wrong.

The word translated "shall be made alive" zoopoiethesontai is derived from a word that is used in the New Testament for being resurrected or quickened to eternal life. Here are the other passages that use derivatives of this word:

John 5:21

John 6:63

Romans 4:17

Romans 8:11

1 Corinthians 15:36

1 Corinthians 15:45

2 Corinthians 3:6

Galatians 3:21

1 Peter 3:18

This word cannot mean life common to all men living and moving and having their being in Christ, nor can it mean simply resurrection to either eternal life or the second death. Under this meaning I am persuaded that the word "all" in 1 Corinthians cannot be an unlimited universal "all" and in both instances where it is used in this passage it is limited by the words "in Adam" and "in Christ". "In Christ" appears to be used in this passage by Paul in a similar way to the way he uses that phrase and the phrase "in Him" in Ephesians.

Ephesians 1:2-4,7,10,13,20

Ephesians 2:6-7,10,13,20-22

Ephesians 3:6,11-12

Ephesians 4:32

This also suggests that "all men" in Romans 5:18 is limited by the "one man" being referenced, either Adam or Christ.

The connection that Adam and Christ share in common with the "all" in 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:8 has several different interpretations that have been offered. Personally I believe there is a federal headship connection. "Things done by one may be imputed unto others, propter relationem foederalem, because of a covenant relation between them." Hodge

I also believe Adam and Christ are uniquely qualified and appointed by God to be the first fruits of their respective seed. No other human beings can be presented before God in the way they can.

People's Bible Notes Commentary Ephesians 4:13

Till we all come. These offices are given in order that all may come to a goal that is named just below. They must be continued in some form until that goal is reached. In the unity of the faith. This is one of the great objects to be attained through these offices. Paul, as an apostle and a prophet, exhorts to the same end in Eph 4:2. As an apostle and prophets, he so exhorts still. Every evangelist and pastor who is under God's spirit should labor to the same end. Not only "unity of the faith", but unity of the knowledge of the Son of God is aimed at. Full unity of the faith will be found when all alike know Christ. Unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. "Unto a fullgrown man" (Revised Version). The second end to be attained is a noble manhood, fully developed, after the modes of life furnished in Christ Jesus. This must be the aim of all teaching, and of all living. If we cannot attain fully to it in the flesh, we certainly can aim at it and grow more and more into Christ's likeness.

People's Bible Notes Commentary

Hebrews 6:19

Which [hope] we have as an anchor of the soul. As an anchor holds the ship when the storms are raging, so this hope holds the soul steadfast. And which we enter into that within the veil. The veil was before the Holy of Holies in the tabernacle, but it was a type of heaven. Hence this means that the hope reaches to heaven. It is a heavenly hope.

I'm sure some others will come in later and give more light on your questions.

Proverbs 11:18, Psalms 102:2, Psalms 5:6, Psalms 37, Psalms 55:22, Psalms 58:3, Psalms 62:4,

Ephesians 4:22, Psalms 40:4, Psalms 63:11, Psalms 101:7, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 14:5,25, Proverbs 19:5,9, Proverbs 29:12,

Hopefully these are helpful

The scary thought is that apart from being saved; anything we perceive as "spiritual" truly is in some form representative of Satan. For those who He has called and chosen; insight is often given of God through the Creation and in the process involved until the actual time on earth when one is saved. Even if we are saved; there is scriptural mandate to NOT create any image of God; represented by creatures in heaven above or the earth below.

It should be fairly clear that Satan himself is not going to readily appear as to how he actually is; that is coming to "steal, kill and destroy." ( John 10:10). Whatever Hollywood has represented or other entertainment venues is merely man's representation. He is certainly NOT currently in hell; and when he is cast there it will be endless torment so he isn't there with a pitchfork enjoying some sort of authority. The confusion over this is perhaps over the verse mentioning that he used to have but no longer has any control over those who have passed. Hades USED to have a place of comfort and a place of torment; Christ was said to have declared his victory and took captivity captive (i.e. the saints were taken to heaven from the paradise section ( Ephesians 4:7-10). God is the creator of all souls; and hence God Himself was the one who couldn't allow access to the Father until in time and space the sacrifice was complete of His Son for our propitiation. Satan just acts as the "accuser of the saints" and will until he is cast to earth ( Rev. 12:10). He has gone from an anointed Cherub (who it would seem was a creature without wings) to having access but not rule to heavenly places and transiting through the 2nd heaven; to the Tribulation when he is cast to the earth with his angels. As with anyone in authority; he rules over all the "powers and principalities" mentioned in Ephesians 6. To the world and lost he appears as an "angel of light" ( 2 Cor. 11:14). He is limited in time and space; his minions act as emissaries

We want to be careful of what we say and we want to make sure that our words are upbuilding to others. This means that we have to think before we speak.

Psalms 139, Isaiah 41:10,

Psalms 130:4, Colossians 1:14, Ephesians 1:7, Acts 26:18, Luke 7:47,48, Psalms 32:1, Acts 8:22, Psalms 85:2,

Ephesians 4:26,

Proverbs 11:3,

Psalms 119:16, Hebrews 2:18, James 1:12, 1Corinthians 10:13,

Hopefully these are helpful

Great is the LORD and greatly to be praised. HIS counsel is righteous, true and His promises are a comfort and peace unto those who know and trust in HIM. Although HIS admonition and declaration may seem difficult and harsh; but by accepting them and following them with Godly humbleness and obedience we will be blessed. "For this is the love of GOD, that we keep HIS commandments: and HIS commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:3

By going willingly into captivity, shows humbleness, obedience, and trust in the LORD GOD. We can do this because we know the love of the LORD GOD unto us, and we know the message, and the messenger. But most of all we know the LORD our Savior and KING through the HOLY Scriptures. It is of our best interest to turn, obey and serve our KING and GOD. Even now we may despair for our current situation before our nation and the world: COVID19, Russia, Ukraine, China, N. Korea, inflation, inept leadership on all the highest level of our government (not all); the LORD will not leave us thus. Our captivity is that of our relationship with the LORD, we claim as our Saviour. The apostle Paul wrote "I therefore the prisoner of the LORD, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called." Ephesians 4: 1

The LORD SAVIOR will raise up competent GOD loving; JESUS CHRIST believers; Holy Scripture living; promise keepers; praise and worship singers; unceasing prayer warrior's; heart filled with thanksgiving Saints; sin hating; mortified, crucified, washed, and cleansed in the Precious Blood of the LORD JESUS CHRIST MOST HIGH GOD; followers of the KING of GLORY; redeemed of the LORD GOD; followers of the exalted LORD of Heaven to do HIS work.

Continued ... March 1, 2022

Isaiah 63:7-14, John 8, interestingly there is much about lies & deception in this chapter.

Ephesians 4:13-32, Colossians 3:8-10,

Revelation 21:27, Revelation 22:15,

John 3:3,5,6, John 3:15-21, 1John 3:1-24, 1Peter 1:3-25, 1John 2:29, 1John 4:7, Ephesians 4:22-32,

To some it means learning a new way of walking, talking etc.

Dear S.Spencer,

Thank you for this in-depth study. I appreciate it.

My only comment is to your last statement on this post.

I do not think that anyone on here is really stating that they are trusting in one's ability in keeping the law. I think that this is a misrepresentation of what some are saying on here. Most on here agree that we are made righteous by faith in Jesus; that His work of salvation, perfect life, and perfect sacrifice is all we need to trust in for our right standing with God.

Most on here believe that it is through God's grace that we come to salvation; it is a gift from God and not earned. Most on here believe that being under grace frees us from the curse of the law and the need to try to attain righteousness by keeping the law. Most on here believe also that Paul repeatedly teaches believers to live godly lives and speaks against engaging in sins such as enumerated in Galatians 5:19-21; Colossians 3:9; Ephesians 4:17-32; 5:1-12; 1 Corinthians 6:8-10; 10:6-11; Romans 6:11-14; 13:8-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22; Hebrews 13:4-5; because we are to walk in the Spirit and produce the fruit of the Spirit. Jesus also speaks to this in Rev. 22:14-15.

Therefore. I think it is improper for one to say things that will discourage believers from practicing godliness in their daily lives. Paul taught clearly that believers are to avoid that which is sinful. So, as a believer, I do not wish to covet, lie, steal, be sexually immoral, kill another, dishonor my parents, disregard sabbath resting, use the Lord's name improperly, set up any idol, or worship an idol, along with may other sinful actions Paul spoke against in his epistles, and in the words of Jesus, Himself.

One who is loving God and loving others will not make a habit of doing these sinful things, but only what good that is of the Spirit's grace and power in a believer's life. We are not talking about law keeping as it was required in the OT, living in obedience to God instead of in sinfulness.

Not a theologian, but in the new year 29-32 was just what I needed to set the tone for a global hope for a brighter future. There are no interpretations wanted, just clearly it speaks volumes. With this being an ancient text it is what's so compelling, that to apply these scriptures daily is each Human's opportunity to do a Great contribution to adhereing to the, Words, and successfully adding a declaration to leave the next generation Hope, for them to look back in 1000 years at us as their Ancestors and marvel at how these scriptures can still be applied, and implemented to carry out their obligation to leave the world better than they found it.

Beloved, the word Trinity is NOT in the King James Bible.

Another religion penned that word. It defines as, THREE. Like Tres, in Spanish means three. Etc

Romans 1:20 clearly shows that Godhead is Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Three in One.

Ephesians 4:5

One Lord, one faith, one baptism

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 Corinthians 12:13

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into ONE Spirit.

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD, so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily.

John 3:16; John 5:24; John 6:37-40,47; John 10:27-29; Romans 6:23; Romans 8:38,39; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 2:8; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 13:5; 1 John 5:11-13; Jude 1:24 - are a few examples, all promising the true child of God that his/her salvation is secure forever.

Yet 1 John 3:7-10 reveals the two-faced 'Christian': having every appearance of serving God, but has sin dominating his life; living carelessly & not carefully.

Please read the WORD for yourself : * Mark 16:17,

Romans 11:29, Romans 12:5-21, Acts 2, Acts 10:46, Acts 19:6,

* 1 Corinthians 12, whole chapter speaks of Spiritual gifts. Ephesians 4:4-25, these chapters: 1 Corinthians 13, 1Corinthians 14, also covers 'Speaking in tongues '

Hopefully these are helpful in your searching for true understanding