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  • CherylAnn - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    The context of Matthew 23:9 tells us that referring to one's biological father as "father" is not what Jesus is speaking about.

    In Matthew 23:1-12, Jesus is denouncing the Jewish scribes and Pharisees for rejecting Him as their Messiah, in particular for their hypocrisy in elevating themselves above others with titles such as "teacher" and "master." The Jewish teachers affected those titles because they supposed that a teacher formed the man or gave him real life. They sought, therefore, to be called "father," as if they were the source of truth rather than God. Christ taught that the source of all life and truth is God, and no one ought to seek or receive a title that properly belongs to Him. No one should be as revered as God is.

    This denunciation is equally relevant today. In no way should any person look up to, follow, or elevate a human leader in any religious or church organization above Jesus Christ. Jesus is the Head of the Church, which is His body. He alone is the author of our salvation, source of comfort in difficulties, and strength to live the Christian life. He is the only One to whom our prayers should be directed. No one else has the right to say, "Look to me to meet your spiritual needs." Jesus' warning against calling men "father" is a caution against ostentation, pride, and hypocrisy.

    Roman Catholics call their priests "father," and the Pope is the "holy father." Abbots take their title from the Aramaic word abba, which means "father." This is clearly unbiblical. The priest as "father" is problematic. In the case of "holy father," there is no doubt this title is unbiblical. No man can take on the title of "holy" anything, because only God is holy. This title gives the Pope a status that is never intended for any man on earth.
  • Darlene on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Why in Matthew does it say" call no one you father on earth for you only have One Father in heaven.

    And then in proverbs 6:20 it turns around and calls your father -father? I don't get that.

    Thanks
  • Gary Stamper on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Knowing there's something missing in your life. Bringing that to your attention while trying to understand the Bible. Surrender your life to Jesus Christ, turn away from your sin and He will save you, (come into your heart). Ask the Holy Spirit to accomplishes His work by giving you understanding of the scripture and the power to walk in it.

    Surrender is our big part in this and allow Jesus through the Holy Spirit to do his work.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    King David in Psalm 51.

    Clearly shows his own disgust over his past behavior and choices. A genuine repentance and desire to be restored into right relationship with the Lord again.
  • Enoch on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Examples of trouble members in the bible?
  • Suziq - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Thankyou David ,that was a very good explanation and helpfull to me ,i guess i get a bit touchy when i hear the phrase "the spirit guides us " ,thats totally my fault ,it reminds of the kind of things that so called mediums say ,those guys really annoy me ! I guess i need to leave my baggage at the door before i post on here ,may Christ return very soon ,to save us from ourselves and each other and may God bless you and all your house David .
  • David - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Jeremiah tells us of what the Lord God sees in our heart. Paul writes in Romans 7 the battle in mind and hearts to love and serve God. The same struggle we all go through. However, Paul also reminds us about how if any be in Christ, he is now a "new creature" and that "...old things have passed away behold all things are become new."( 2 Corinthians 5: 17)

    Paul encourages us into this new mind set through Col 3:1-6. Where he admonishes us to mortify or kill the things that "...sake the wrath of God..." onto the children of disobedience. v. 10 But also to "...put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created him."

    But before we try to "put on" the new man, we need to "put off" the things cause us to fall constantly. v. 8

    The struggle is tough, but the Lord promises us victory when we try. That's the Holy Spirit's job, to remind us, to encourage us, to strengthen and especially to comfort us. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct your path." Proverbs 3: 5, 6

    May the Lord's blessing be evident on all who endeavor to love and worship our soon coming Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Hi Suziq.

    Jeremiah 17:9. The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

    YOU ARE SO RIGHT, IN THE HEBREW I THINK IT ACTUALLY SAYS INCURABLY WICKED.

    THAT'S WHY GOD DON'T REPAIR THE OLD HEART, HE GIVES US A NEW HEART.

    Ezekiel 36:26-27. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

    And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    Ezekiel 11:19. And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I WILL TAKE THE STONY HEART OUT OF THEIR FLESH, and will give them an heart of flesh:

    Proverbs 3:3-6. Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:

    So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.

    Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

    In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

    Even the desciples was confused throughout Jesus ministry.

    John 6:60-63. Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

    When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

    What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

    IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH; THE FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING: THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT, AND THEY ARE LIFE.

    John 16:12-13. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

    Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

    ALSO

    1 CORINTHIANS CH 2.

    GOD BLESS.
  • Suziq - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Hello S Spencer ,i am far too mistrustfull of my own sinfull nature , Jeremiah ch17 v9 ,my guide is definately the words in the Bible ,the words of God and the words of Jesus ,i can see them in print and know they are eternaly true , if the Holy Spirit ever told you to do something that was in oposition to what has been written for us and preserved for us in the Bible ,would you do it ? Im guessing and hoping not ,that heart that Jeremiah talks about isnt the devils ,its ours , Genesis ch8 v21 , Numbers ch15 v30&31 , i am sure some one will accuse me of speaking against the Holy Spirit but i shant take offence and i dont mean to offend ,its just that i believe that God gave us the Bible to instruct and guide us closer to Him and my own sinfull nature is not to be trusted but Gods Word will never steer me wrong .
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Amen David!!

    And it's the "NEW " heart in which that passion comes, It's the Holyspirit that guides us.

    God bless.
  • David on Deuteronomy 4:39 - 4 years ago
    Many are still ignorant with regards to their relationship to the Lord God, Jesus Christ. The difference is simply why and how you live. I trust and obey the Scripture because the Lord saved me unto good works. Ephesians 2: 8-10. The Key is that I am already saved so I work. Why? To show My Lord and Saviour that I love Him. I work because I am saved, Not to get saved
  • Cheryl on Deuteronomy 4:7 - 4 years ago
    This whole chapter gives a a great definition of God's leadership as Moses saw and was guided to do, can we stand by these instructions today, due to the distractions causes us to go off cause mainly not all the way because the Holy Spirit convicts us that brings us back on course so the spirit man constantly battles, thank be to God who gives us the victory to fight the fight and win. Wisdom ,knowledge, and understanding brings us to God's light and truth of being a winner. Thank you Yeshua Amen.
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 6 - 4 years ago
    It is indeed sad to read Deuteronomy 3:26 with Moses feeling cut off from the Lord. All he wanted was to enter the Promised Land which he yearned for but was denied this before his death. And so it is when we enter into a state of wilful disobedience, grieving the Lord, especially when that disobedience is prompted by unrighteous anger & self-elevation ( Numbers 20:7-13).

    And then we read Deuteronomy 4:21-31, a part of Moses' final message to the children of Israel. We do read here of Moses' warning to them if they should reject the Lord by serving other gods. That if they did so, God would reject them by scattering them amongst the nations (as happened in the Assyrian & Babylonian captivity and also at the Jewish Diaspora resulting from Roman rule). So yes, this was a prophetical message by Moses, which ultimately Israel did not heed & so suffered terribly. But Moses also rehearsed before the people of God's goodness towards them in bringing them out of bondage in Egypt & into a land that flowed with milk & honey ( Exodus 3:16,17; Deuteronomy 1:6-8), but this generally came with a warning to remain faithful to the Lord.
  • Victor - In Reply on Deuteronomy 6 - 4 years ago
    thanks for your explanation. I believe this also indicates anything from God are good!

    it's sort of sad to read some verses here, such as Deuteronomy 3:26 "the LORD said unto me, Let it suffice thee; speak no more unto me of this matter." when Moses was pleading to Lord to let him into Canaan.

    like his forefathers(Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) prophesying/blessing their descendants before death, was verses of Deuteronomy 4:25-30 from Moses that prophesying future of Israelites? was he able to tell something good only?
  • Jonah Williams on Deuteronomy 4:6 - 4 years ago
    This is a good verse
  • Robert Malit - In Reply on Deuteronomy 18 - 4 years ago
    Continuation of my comments

    english standard version = changed contradicts truth

    john 1-3 english standard version (esv) 1 in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god. 2 he was in the beginning with god. 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    what are the consequences of following false teachers, according to our god/lord jesus?

    here is what our lord jesus is saying in the bible

    is there danger in rejecting the "trinity doctine"?

    the bible has no record whatsoever of any danger rejecting the trinity doctrine. however, the danger lies in "accepting & believing it, because it blasphemes god!

    our names will be taken away from the "book of life" believers going to heaven, eternal life with god.

    we, you & i go to hell to burn forever

    following false teachers - accepting & believing what they preach as the truth & doing it or practicing it - you blasphemed god.



    here is what god is saying

    revelation 22:18 context 18for i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, god shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, god shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    deuteronomy 4:2 2ye shall not add unto the word which i command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the lord your god which i command you.
  • Scriptures on GodGodhead - In Reply on Ephesians 5:9 - 4 years ago
    This is what I know. God is a spirit and a consuming fire. Jesus is fully God and fully man. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ

    The Holy Spirit is invisible.

    King James Bible

    Hebrews 12:29

    For our God is a consuming fire.

    Deuteronomy 4:24

    For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

    John 4:24

    God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    John 15:26

    But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. Three persons: all are one God.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    Maybe you'd like to add a KJV Bible to your bookcase?

    Blessings, Mishael
  • Claire - In Reply on 1 John 3:12 - 4 years ago
    Page 3

    Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded [you to perform], even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

    Deuteronomy 6:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

    Deuteronomy 11:22 For if ye [shall diligently keep all] these commandments which I [command you], [to do them], to love the LORD your God, [to walk in all his ways], and to cleave unto him;

    Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye [shall walk] after the LORD your God, and fear him, and [keep] his commandments, and [obey] his voice, and ye [shall] serve him, and cleave unto him.

    2 Chronicles 31:21 And in every work that he began in the service of the house of God, and in the law, and in the commandments, to seek his God, [he did it with all his heart, and prospered.]

    Deuteronomy 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with [them that love him and keep his commandments] to a thousand generations;

    Deuteronomy 11:1 Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and [keep] his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, [alway.]

    Deuteronomy 15:5 [Only] if thou carefully hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to [observe to do all] these commandments which I command thee this day.

    Deuteronomy 27:10 Thou shalt therefore [obey] the voice of the LORD thy God, [and do] his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

    Deuteronomy 30:8 And thou shalt return and [obey] the voice of the LORD, [and do all] his commandments which I command thee this day.

    1 Kings 8:58 That he may incline our hearts unto him, [to walk in all his ways], [and to keep] his commandments, and his statutes, and his judgments, which he commanded our fathers.

    These are just a few of the scriptures [commanding us to keep them.]
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 16 - 4 years ago
    When reading the Word & its use of this word, 'heaven', I see it applied in four ways:

    a. the sky/atmosphere or troposphere & this goes to an altitude of approx. fifteen miles. Genesis 6:7, James 5:18 as examples.

    b. the celestial (outer space) of planets, stars & constellations. Deuteronomy 4:19, Matthew 24:29.

    c. the Place of God's Abode. Hebrews 8:1, Acts 7:56.

    d. the new Heaven (& Earth) that is yet to come after all the corrupt Earth & Sky are dissolved. Isaiah 65:17, Revelation 21:1.
  • WRA - in reply to Ezra 9 on Ezra 9 - 4 years ago
    This verse says, ...we have not separated ourselves from the people of the land, doing according to their abominations. The land was an unclean land filled with the filthiness of the people doing abominations. These verses lists over 8 tribes here and nowhere does it say that these people are all black. Nore is the problem listed as a Racial one. The Issue is one of Sin. If we look at the book of Numbers 12:1, we see, what I believe to be God's opinion of Inter-Racial Marriage.

    Here is another scripture I would look at in this matter. Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6 and Revelations 22:19. The Lord himself says in John 13:34-35. The Lord speaks of Love for one another to include people not to exclude a people group for skin color that they had no part in choosing for themselves.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Psalms 46 - 4 years ago
    Can you reword your question? Thanks

    Psalms 62:7-8 - In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.

    Deuteronomy 4:7 - For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

    Psalms 9:9 - The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

    2 Samuel 22:17-20 - He sent from above, he took me; he drew me out of many waters;He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them that hated me: for they were too strong for me.They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the LORD was my stay.He brought me forth also into a large place: he delivered me, because he delighted in me.

    Psalms 91:1-9 - He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

    Proverbs 18:10 - The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.

    Hebrews 6:18 - That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
  • CLEAVING - In Reply on Psalms 91:7 - 4 years ago
    It just works better this way. God means for the couple to draw close, unite in purpose and become ONE. It's about core; inner circle:

    Men may have to eat a few deadly meatloafs, but there will be peace in the home. :D. (AllrecipesDotCom)

    Mark 10:7

    For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

    Genesis 2:24

    Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

    Matthew 19:5

    And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    Joshua 23:8

    But cleave unto the LORD your God, as ye have done unto this day.

    Deuteronomy 4:4

    But ye that did cleave unto the LORD your God, are alive every one of you this day.

    (I used to think cleaving was horseshoes but with meat cleavers )
  • PARENTS TEACH YOUR CHILDREN on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Psalms 132:12

    If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.

    Psalms 34:11

    Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will TEACH you the fear of the LORD.

    Judges 3:2

    Only that the generations of the children of Israel might know, to TEACH them war (prayer), at the least such as before knew nothing thereof;

    Leviticus 10:11

    And that ye may TEACH the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.

    Deuteronomy 31:19

    Now therefore write ye this song for you, and TEACH IT the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel.

    Titus 2:4

    That they may TEACH the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children (and TEACH THEM TO PRAY)

    Daniel 1:4

    Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning

    Deuteronomy 4:10

    Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may TEACH THEIR CHILDREN.

    It is time to do the work of an evangelist in your household; to your children; no matter age.

    You can back out of this room and click on the Community Link: Become a Christian

    The age of accountability varies among kids. It's when they know the difference between a lie and the truth: that lying is wrong.

    Remember: YouTube is NOT a babysitter.
  • WHAT DOES GOD LOOK LIKE - In Reply on Luke 14:26 - 5 years ago
    God is Spirit. There are MANY scriptures on God being seen. If you read it slowly, you will see the description is in imagery.

    Go get some pen & paper and write down these scriptures; then you can read them and picture God in your heart when you pray.

    John 1:18, John 6:46, John 5:37

    1 John 4:12, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 4:20

    1 Timothy 1:17, 1 Timothy 6:16

    Luke 1:31-32, Matthew 22, Romans 1:20

    Philippians 2, Hebrews 1:1-13,

    Colossians 1:15

    Deuteronomy 4:12, 15. Exodus 3:6

    Exodus 33:20-23

    Isaiah 38:11, Isaiah 64:4

    Job 9:11, Job 35:14, Job 23:8

    This is a ps from me: if you have "pictures of God" (some artist imagined) in your home? You need to get rid of them,

    According to Exodus 20. That's not a photograph of God and is considered to be a graven image. Crosses on the wall is ok, but not images.

    I have 1 still life painting of a bowl of fruit and a pitcher of water. It makes me think of eating a meal with Jesus.

    Mishael
  • Bob Hilt on Job 28:9 - 5 years ago
    Would the Lord deceive anyone?

    Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. (Those who seek the Lord totally then NO)

    Matthew Chapter 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?

    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38 This is the first and great commandment.

    39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    What about those who want the IDOL of their sin more than the Lord

    Ezekiel Chapter 14:7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:

    8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD.

    9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

    ...I the LORD have deceived that prophet...not Satan.

    Why? cause they loved sin more than the Lord.

    I can show you churches in San Fran who teach the Lord created them "gay" and they totally believe they are saved.

    they even use a Bible where what they do is not a sin since they are in a "committed relationship"

    1 Kings 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD (not satan) hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

    Humbling to say the least. When you seek the Lord totally he would never deceive you. But when you want sin...
  • John L QUESTION ON 10 COMMANDMENTS on Matthew 4:7 - 5 years ago
    There are two sets of Ten Commandments. Exodus 20:1-17 and Exodus 34:10-28.

    TWICE Moses went upon the mountain and did not eat or drink for 40 days!

    The 10 Commandments of Exodus 34:10-28 are specifically referred to as "the ten commandments" ( Exodus 34:28, Deuteronomy 4:13, 10:4)

    There are differences in the two sets of Commandments. Which set are we to follow? Are we to combine them?
  • Robert - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4 - 5 years ago
    With regards to this thread, I must ask for my own clarification, "How is the cross any different?"

    We worship the lamb, the cross, etc.

    Made by men's hands...

    No life or breathe in them...

    Not trying to be argumentative; it just always pricks me when I read these scriptures because not only do I believe in devotional studies, but I also believe in keeping the context and reading from Genesis to Revelations.
  • Love for Truth - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4 - 5 years ago
    Amen we must understand the truth and realize that Jesus the mighty God ,Jehovah ,heavenly father was manifested in the flesh according to 1 Timothy 3:16 a lot of Christian's are confused about this as Phillip was in John 14:8-9 Jesus said he that hath seen me hath seen the Father.God the one and only manifested in the flesh is Jesus Christ the head of All principality and power. Colossians 2:9-10
  • Knowing God - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4 - 5 years ago
    Yes They are One in Spirit 1John5:7-21 but not the flesh. Jesus was known as God on earth but He is not our Heavenly Abba Father who is in Authority and gave Jesus His Authority 1Cor13:24-28 The Holy Ghost Testifies of Them both to bring Them Glory John15:26-27 and we don't Blaspheme Him by calling Him a liar. We need God's Wisdom to fully Understand His Truth, we Ask Receive and Believe Jam1:5-8.
  • Freedom In Life - In Reply on Deuteronomy 4 - 5 years ago
    True Stanjett, Pagans worship their images and even Animals and as you said there are others who have been also been deceived by false teachers so they have been lead to Worship images too. But do we reject them even though some have Polluted what God calls good like Christmas and Easter Remberances. He knows their Hearts and will rescue them Through hearing His Truth shared in Love Rom10 and 11.


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