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Greetings in Jesus' name, Richard,

In every instance when a Christian received the gift of the Holy Ghost after the New Testament began in the book of Acts (the first Church), it was always accompanied with speaking in another tongue (Samaritans: Acts 8:16-18 , Gentiles- Acts 10:46, Jews- Acts 19:1-6).

This is the proof or earnest (token) of a Christian's inheritance ( Ephesians 1:14).

This was prophesied by the prophet Isaiah

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

With all due respect, a Christian does not receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and is not sealed thereby the moment they believe as many lying pastors/theologians teach (along with other false doctrines like the "trinity" "once saved always saved" "purgatory" etc). Likewise a feeling of peace is not evidence you have received the Holy Ghost. While I do agree there are many that speak false tongues in emulation (primarily in the "Pentecostal/Apostolic" businesses), that does not invalidate the real thing.

May I ask you Richard (in Christ), have you been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins ( Gal. 3:27)?

Sincerely,

Andrew

Acts 10:44-48. It was also to the Gentiles sir. Water baptism in Jesus name. And they received the Holy Ghost by Peters teaching.

Water baptism. Part 1

From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.

When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.

In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.

Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!

Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:

God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!

New Testament:

John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:

Matthew 3: 11, 16.

John 1: 26 - 33.

Luke 3: 16, 21.

Matthew 28:19:

Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.

Mark 16:16:

He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Luke 24: 47 - 49:

Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.

John 3: 5 - 7:

Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.

John 13:10:

Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.

John 19:34:

Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.

Note:

1 John 5: 6, 8:

Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.

There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.

One what? - One new birth.

Continued next text.

Acts 2:38:

Baptized in water for remission of sins to be saved. Jews first, then gentiles.

Note:

2: 41:

3000 souls were baptized to be obedient.

Acts 8: 36 - 39:

Philip baptized eunuch in water.

Acts 9:18:

Apostle Paul is baptized.

Acts 10: 47, 48:

Peter baptized Cornelius and his family.

Acts 18: 8:

Chief ruler of synagogue believed on the Lord(many with him) got baptized.

Acts 19: 1 - 6:

Paul baptized certain disciples in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Continue to water baptism part 2.

Judy, may the Spirit grace you with his wisdom and his understanding.

Were women commanded to be circumcised in the old testament? Are you cut off from God for not being circumcised?

Romans 2:28-29 For he (or she) is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outwardly in the flesh:

(vs 29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; an circumcision that is of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

It's Christ in you, the new birth, that is the true circumcision.

Acts 2:38:

Baptized in water for remission of sins to be saved. Jews first, then gentiles.

Note:

2: 41:

3000 souls were baptized to be obedient.

Acts 8: 36 - 39:

Philip baptized eunuch in water.

Acts 9:18:

Apostle Paul is baptized.

Acts 10: 47, 48:

Peter baptized Cornelius and his family.

Acts 18: 8:

Chief ruler of synagogue believed on the Lord(many with him) got baptized.

Acts 19: 1 - 6:

Paul baptized certain disciples in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Acts 22: 16:

Paul defense/testamony on trial telling the people; that he was baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Romans 6: 3, 4:

Paul says those that are saved have been baptized/buried in the name of Jesus.

Ephesians 5:26:

Christ sanctify and cleanse His church with the washing of WATER by the word.

Colossians 2: 11, 12:

The circumcision of Christ takes place in water baptism.

Hebrews 9: 19, 20:

When Moses read the law to all the people, he took blood, water, hyssop, and sprinkled them with it, signifying God have enjoined them.

Hebrews 10: 22:

Our bodies are washed with pure water.

1 Peter 3: 20, 21:

In the days of Noah, 8 souls were saved by water. The like figure even BAPTISM ALSO NOW SAVES US.

In conclusion, water is used to separate you from sin/cut off the flesh to bring you into new covenant with Christ, the NEW BIRTH, BORN AGAIN OF WATER AND SPIRIT!

Hi Anthony,

You stated that verses have been changed and taken out of the Bible, If you believe what you stated please give us the verses in question. Thank you

Carolyn,

We are not given the names of the three men other than they were sent by Cornelius to Peter to enquire about the vision given to Peter. We do know that the three men were Gentiles, which is interesting.

Verse 19 of what book and chapter?

Who were the three men in verse 19

Hello Charles,

This is getting interesting from what I'm finding in the Scriptures. As I agree Paul received the Gospel from the Lord in revelation. As the original disciples/apostles of the Lord were first hand witnesses and lived with the Lord.

So it seems, I believe this is mostly Peter in these verses, that the Gospel he preached was also for the remission, forgiveness, of sins and our salvation through Jesus Christ.

Acts 2:38

Acts 3:19

Acts 4:12

Acts 5:31

Acts 10:43-44

Maybe the point you are trying to make is that he(other apostles) did not exactly say it was that He "died" for our sins? As I can't really be sure of that as the early preaching in Acts, that I posted, was only of Peter. There also being ten other original apostles preaching around. It could be though.

This is interesting what I came across. In Acts 9:26-27. As this seems to be not long after Paul's conversion. After his first preaching of the Lord in Damascus. Being saved by other disciples of the Lord ending up in Jerusalem. Then in verse 27 Barnabus took him to the other apostles. As I can't be positive but I don't think Peter was there at this time as a couple verses later it states he was in other places.

This does not seem to be the same trip to Jerusalem as Paul spake of in Galatians 1:18. As in Galatians 1:19 he states "of the other apostles I saw none". Interesting how in Galatians 1:17 stated that he didn't go to Jerusalem after he was saved or converted. Lots of stuff going on.

God Bless.

You could also cite the many Scriptures that speak of those who fell down & worshipped Jesus. And this was not people doing obeisance to a 'mighty Prophet of God', but in recognition that this Holy One came from God & to be worshipped as they would God.

A few Scriptures: Matthew 2:10,11 (the magi from the East before the Babe). Matthew 8:2 (by a Leper). Matthew 9:18. Matthew 14:33. John 9:36-38. Acts 10:25,26 (an account where Peter refused the worship of Cornelius).

I always pray to the Father, but I find no reason why I can't pray to the Lord Jesus & glorify & worship Him also.

1 Corinthians 15:4

Acts 10:40

Luke 24:7

Luke 18:33

Matthew 20:19

Matthew 17:23

Luke 24:46

Luke 24:21

This is only a few of the instances. Is someone doubting that Jesus was risen on the third day or something? The Bible says it all over the place, so if someone is trying to claim otherwise, they have a whole mountain of scripture against them.

If you research the origin of the cross it goes back to the Babylonians and didn't enter into Christian religion until the 4th century. some bible writers used the Greek word Xy'lon which means "timber" stick, club, or tree. see also acts 10:39, acts 13:29, Galations 3:13 and 1 peter 2:24. It was under the pagan ruler Constantine that promoted the cross as a symbol of Christianity. see also Exodus 20:4,5

I love this Bible

Although the Holy Ghost was given by a holy and loving god, its primary purpose is to indue power to further ones ability to witness and proclaim the redemptive offer of Christ. (day of Pentecost) It also allows the receiver to pray in a way you could not prior to being filled. This gift is for all who desire and seek it. Paul said in acts he spoke in tongues more than any of the believers. But he was speaking of his own prayer time with god. The people were confused of it's use in the church. If a believer does not desire a closer relationship, and stronger ability to be his witness, they should forgo asking him for this precious and powerful gift. Although it is for all who ask, all will not ask.

Yes, I believe that the same Gift of other Tongues that was given at Pentecost, or in Acts 10:45,46, is the same that Paul speaks about in 1 Corinthians chapters 13 & 14. There was no difference: from the same Spirit & for the same purpose, to testify of the Spirit's entrance & for the worship to God, whether in Church or in private.

1 Corinthians 13:1: "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal." I can't speak about the Spirit giving an 'angelic' language to speak. What Paul was referring to in this verse, was to share the message of the superiority of Love over all Gifts of the Spirit. Even if he could speak in both human & angelic language, if love was missing in his life & ministry, then all that 'language' would be as noise; it would be useful, but love was the under girding principle in everything for the believer. And he takes that thought further in verse 2, 'if he had knowledge of everything or even mountain-moving faith' (which he didn't claim to have), if love was missing, then even in these things, he would be as "nothing" in God's Eyes. So, I don't understand that Paul was speaking of a heavenly language as a Gift, but was showing a comparison of the low worth of all Gifts (including Tongues), in comparison to the chief Gift of Love.

Thanks so much.

I try to understand it..But if so be it that these were other languages understandable by other and yet unlearned or can be interpreted, are they the same as angelic tongues? And second are they the ones the apostle paul talks about in corinthians 13 and 14? Thanks

From that account of the conversion of Cornelius & others of his household, when the Spirit fell upon them, they spoke in other tongues, i.e. the same Gift that the apostles received during Pentecost, proving that they had also received the same Spirit & that even the Gentiles could be saved. They spoke in languages that they never learned but their speech was understood by those who knew the language or maybe, interpretation was given. That is why Peter & the others heard those people "magnify God" through these unlearned languages.

Praise the Lord,

l would like to understands which toungues are meant in acts 10:46?

1 Tim 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ,

acts 10:14 4But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 16This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

that pretty much answers that question

Verses 34,35-This scripture helps us to see that no race or nation is better than another because we all have one common forefather.

" John 3

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit."

We are not always near a baptismal when we pray to receive Jesus as Lord and Savior. We are all SEALED with the Holy Spirit of promise; our names are recorded THEN, in the Lambs Book of Life.

Water baptism is a Public statement of Faith in Jesus Christ. There are no rules on the timing of that public display. When Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist: it was to fulfill "all righteousness". It also fulfilled a prophesy of the event.

The Holy Spirit is in charge of the NEW BIRTH. He seals us, He Baptises us. He bestows the gifts He chooses for us. He teaches us on sin, righteousness, and the World to come. He reveals who Jesus Christ is. If you need Anything... ask Him FIRST.

The Holy Spirit is the 3rd Person of the Godhead. He is God. What the Bible teaches on this...is what it is. Believe the Bible; the written Word of God.

There are many teachings on water baptism. Do what your Bible shows to you. I think it's a wonder way to celebrate a wonderful event with friends and family.

My considered belief is that, Yes, that person who is saved through Jesus Blood & faith in that redemptive work, will enter God's Kingdom regardless of water baptism. When he is saved, when truly convicted of sin & repents, at that very moment God's Spirit baptizes him. And this baptism entails forgiveness of all his sins, given a new birth by the Spirit taking up residence within & affecting his mind & spirit towards holiness, being fully accepted of God, becoming a child of God, receiving God's blessings (His gifts, His fruit, His inheritance) & the Spirit's sealing, marking him as one belonging to God making his salvation fully secure.

If we add anything to that 'saving faith', the faith that God requires, then it amounts to acts or works that we perform to help in that salvation. It could be water baptism, the Lord's Supper, self denial, works of service & many other things that people do, just to make sure that God is pleased with them & accepts them. If that's the case, then it's no longer faith, but works that saves - and this goes against Scripture ( Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:4-7). But once we're saved by faith alone, then the ordinances of water baptism & the Lord's Supper follow, as well as pursuing a life of holiness & works of service generated by the new life in Christ.

So neither water baptism or anything else apart from faith is required for salvation as baptism is only an initial physical testimony to you & others of a changed life being identified with the crucified & risen Christ.

If you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior (say on Friday).Your baptism is scheduled for Sunday, but you pass away on Saturday. Do you think that person will still enter the Kingdom of Heaven? I understand only GOD can truly answer that question, but your understanding of the word is appreciated.

Acts 10 . 38

Another trinity doctrine , proof of error .

The favor of God can be described as "tangible evidence that a person has the approval of the Lord." When we favor someone, we want to be with him or her. We delight in him/her. We connect with him/her in a way we don't connect with everyone else. We usually favor people who also favor us. IN THE SAME WAY, God shows favor to the ones who delight in, connect with, and give honor to Him. Isaiah 66:2 says, "These are the ones I look on with favor: those who are humble and contrite in spirit, and who tremble at my word." 2 Chronicles 16:9 says, "For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong on behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him." To be "perfect" toward Him means we seek His favor more than we seek the favor of anyone else, even ourselves.

Proverbs 8:35; "For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favor of the LORD."

Psalm 5:12 "For thou, Lord, wilt bless the righteous; with favor wilt thou compass him as with a shield."

Proverbs 3:4; "So shalt thou find favor and good understanding in the sight of God and man."

Satisfy me Lord with favor and fill me with blessing in the name of Jesus!

In the mighty name of Jesus, I claim...

-help reading your Word, daily

- divine wisdom from your Word

- patience with my family

- divine favor in family and business

- prosperity, bless tithes and offerings

-shield me from satanic attacks

- lend me angelic support

- the release of finances

Isaiah 26:3

You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you.

Luke 13:11; John 5:5; Acts 10:38; Acts 3:2; Acts 4:9

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Anyway, back to Acts 10:9 & following verses: my point of objection is that you see this vision from the Lord to Peter as something to do with water baptism. As I read this portion, the whole message to Peter was to "call nothing common or unclean". That is, the unclean animals on the sheet represented not just unclean animals, but people that God had chosen to also become joint-heirs with the Jews who also believed, through Jesus' Blood. So this was preparation for Peter to meet with gentile Cornelius & Peter even declared to him (v28) that even though a Jew couldn't meet with a gentile, God had showed him differently.

Eventually, as Peter preached to him (them), the Spirit fell upon them, they spoke in other tongues & were baptized in water (vv 44-48). The clear order is seen here, to which you are disputing. There is no indication here or anywhere else that Peter ever "implied that the blood of our lord was insufficient and that water baptism cd remit sins".

This is your interpretation that is baseless & developed on spiritualizing so much of Scripture as you do here & in your other comments. You need to show where Peter, or anyone else, ever believed that water baptism could remit sins - if any did believe that, then they were not Christians saved & purchased by Christ's blood - they have not come via the Cross but by some vain imagination.

Comments by Alex on y Jesus was water baptised,Everything had to be fulfiled in the law of Moses. Even the washing of the 2 turtle doves by running water,th Jordan was running water One of the doves had to be killed and his blood sprinkled on the living Dove symbolic of the CHURCH that was made clean by the blood of the sacrificial dove, ( CHRIST ) thats y the Dove descened on CHRIST he was our sacrificial DOVE, mankind has a spritual leprosy and that was the offering for leprosy. One dove had to die for the living bird then the living bird was set free whom the son sets free is free indeed.Husbands love your wives even as Christ loved the church and gave his life for it ,jesus answers to the sacrificial dove THAT GAVE HIS LIFE FOR THE CHURCH. turtle doves imply lovers like CHRIST AND THE CHURCH ARE LOVERS. In song of Solomon the 2 lovers are CHRIST AND THE CHURCH BUT THEY REFER TO EACH OTHER AS HAVING DOVES EYES ( ONE DOVE HAD TO DIE FOR THE OTHER ) Christ and the CHURCH. Thats y the dove descened on Jesus marking him as our sacrificial dove . While the KING SITS AT HIS TABLE MY SPICKNARD SENDS FORTH A SWEET SMELL.Jesus was in the house of Simon the Leper when this was fulfilled,Thats when MARY broke the alabaster box giving the house a sweet smell,which answers to the lamb breaking the 7 seals of the book the new covenant,a birthing covenant, But for now we are all in the house of Simon the leper, Thats y he said you are made clean by the WORD i have spoken unto you,THE CONTENTS OF THE BOOK ( THE ALABASTER BOX ) thats y Jesus and the disciples had to be water baptised,it was prophetic that there was coming a greater baptism of the H.G. JOHN SAID HE MUST BE INCREASED AND I MUST BE DECREASED, WATER BAPTISM HAD TO DECREASE AND H.G. BAPTISM HAD TO INCREASE. John replied he that hath the bride is the bridegroom lovers as turtle doves are lovers ( Christ and the Church ) thus a Child wd be coming soon the H.G. the Child of Promise H.G. baptism on the day of Pentacost.

Hi Chris,

No problem. I trusted that you hadn't forgot, I assumed the delay was KJB reviewing them before they made them live. I will look for the new thread now.

Thank you for all your help as always.

God bless you & your family

Kind Regards

Claire

Thanks Chris For you comment , the Bible it's self is in some places very easy a child can understand it , and some places only God knows for sure .

The KJV is old English and a little harder for some .

There was a lady that lived back in the 1800 s she was an Irish immigrant , she had no formal education .

She went to churches then and doubted what the preachers where preaching , so she asked the Lord to read the Bible her self . The enabled her to understand the Bible , it must have been a KJV at that time .

That encourages me that almost anyone can find the truth if they seek it with Gods help . Later she would stand up in church and tell the preacher they where wrong . Must have been quite a lady ! They nick named her Holy Ann .