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Lisa. First this is in the category of discerning of spirits which is the God

Given ability to know what's operating and what to do about it. It is not

Natural ability it is spiritual knowledge and not a guessing game. A familiar

Spirit is one that knew what someone was like when they were living in the bible

The which of endor by a devil spirit brought up the likeness of Samuel the prophet.

This was a familiar spirit and the reason why the enemy did this was because

God was not talking to Saul the king because he was spiritually corrupt to Saul

Went to a witch, for information tells you how far out He was. Another example

My wife had a friend who's father died and sometime later she saw him in her

House sitting in a rocking chair, it put a ton of fear in her. God is not the author

Of fear first clue and what was the purpose of doing that. Most people even

Christian's don't believe this field and what's been taught is pretty much off

The wall. Just remember the wisdom from above James 3:17.

Oh, there are discos in Heaven, at least in my section-a very classy time...

Hello Jane

There is another lesson also to be learnt from that story. Don't be in a hurry to make promises to God because you may find youself in a position to not be able to keep them. Don't say big words like Peter who said that he would never let Jesus down, he did let Him down at the end.

GBU

Hi Henry

Cornelius and his own spoke in tongues too, but Peter ORDERED them to be baptized in water

Acts 10:48

"And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days."

Baptism in water and baptism in the Spirit serve different things. Being baptized in one doesn't exclude you from the other.

GBU

Karen The answer is freedom of will of which God gave all His angels

And mankind He's not a control freak.

Ronnie. The question I pose is why would God do that when we have all we

Bed to know in scripture for life and Godliness that,s why we study God's Word.

Lisa. For clarification first you said familiar spirits then unfamiliar which

One is it.?

Thanks for your thoughts. 2 Cor. 10:18 For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.

Being Afraid to offend the works of evil is work-less, GOD can't use you.

And when that truth falls on baron soil, it does not bare fruit. Parable of the Sower, we are to search for fertile ground.

S Spencer, thank you for that,

To expose them that work of darkness IS what Ephesians 5 is saying.

Exposing Falsehoods, and evil are what Ephesians by the light 5:7-17 means, for whatsoever doth make manifest is light, we are children of the light, so we expose the things that are spoken of in secret.

11 And have no partnership with the unfruitful [dead] works of the darkness, but rather convict/expose them.

13 But all things that are convicted are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

Manifest: Clearly apparent to the sight or understanding; obvious. synonym: apparent. And so it is, the salt must flow.

If you're feeling a need, want to be baptized, it may be the HOLY Spirit leading you. Even during the New Testament Church, there were some that were baptized by John for repentance that realized they needed to be re-baptized. Acts 19:1-6,

Acts 2:38,

To understand Baptism more, if your interested in studying it fully. I recommend searching "Bapti" in the [Search words or verses] tab, then it will show [Modify Search] big red button. Click, it. New options show, multiple tabs, tap [Partial Word Match] it should respond with= 91 instances 4 pages of where this KJV Bible app has every variance of the word, Baptism, Baptized, Baptize, Baptizing. Then I usually click the underlined phrase [Sort By Book Order].

You can Search using each word individually too, but those will be like 51, 7, 22, 4, instances, with repeating scriptures, for each word individually searched.

Hopefully this is helpful.

Hi Karen. Yes, God could have stopped sin right from the beginning, when Adam & Eve were tempted to commit sin, God could have stepped right in & prevented that happening - indeed, God could have also destroyed Satan & saved all of us so much grief, bound for eternal agony. But you know what, if God did that then He wouldn't have allowed us to express the mental & spiritual resources He has given us. All His creation, including mankind, the angels & other beings in Heaven, would either be fully programed to not respond to evil or maybe unable to have the power of choice & the exercise of emotions of love, faith, etc. Yet, we are made in His Image - so our existence in the flesh must exude those qualities of God that He has placed in us. Sadly, sin has severely marred what God has put in us & so man in his sinful unregenerate state shows anything but godliness, serving his own lusts, lifting himself to a god-like status over others.

In Heaven, Lucifer, the covering cherub, was created holy, serving God. Then one day, "iniquity was found" in him ( Ezekiel 28:15). We're not told how one so holy managed to sin, but having the power to choose, as we also have, Satan's heart lifted with pride, he sinned, & he led Adam & Eve into the same trap ( Genesis 3:4,5: to believe they too can elevate their hearts & minds to the level of God). If God withheld from us the ability to choose, to use our minds to consider His Words, whether to remain true to Him or to pursue our own ways, then we would not have fulfilled His design & we would not have had the ability to demonstrate true affection from our wills. It would have just been a love coded into our design & a sinlessness not based on our desire to please our Creator. To be a human as God intended meant that Adam & Eve had to reject Satan's thrusts at every point in their lives - but would we afterwards have remained pure?

And so Jesus was sent to us - the great Plan for our spiritual restoration - from self, to God alone.

My Comment is when you ask God something he's God who keep his promises and he fulfill them we saw in this conversation with God after he won the. war Japhtah promised God to give whatever comes first From his house there comes his daughter he gave her to God

What I've learnt from this chapter what you promise God keep that promise

Luke

Parable of the Sower Luke 8:5

"The sower went out to sow his seed: and in his sowing, some fell beside the wayside; and it was trodden down, and the birds of the air devoured it.

6 And other fell upon the rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, on account its not having moisture.

7 And other fell in the midst of the thorns; and the thorns sprang up together, and

stifled it.

8 And others fell upon good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold." And when He had said these things, He cried, "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

9 And His disciples asked Him, saying, What might this parable be?

10 And He said, "Unto you it has been given to get to know the secrets of the kingdom of God: but to the rest within parables; in order that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

11 Now the parable means this: The seed represents the word of God.

12 Those beside the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and snatches away the word out of their hearts, in order that they should not believe and be saved.

13 They upon the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word of God in

association with joy; and these have no root, which for a season believe, and within time of trial fall away

14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, as they go on their way, and are stifled by cares and riches and pleasures of the life that is lived, and bring no fruit to perfection.

15 But that in the good ground are they, which within an honest and good heart, having heard the word of God, hold it fast, and bring forth fruit in patient endurance.

16 No man, when he hath lighted a lamp, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a couch; but setteth it upon a lampstand, that they which enter in may see the light.

17 For not anything is hidden, that shall not become manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not become known and come to light.

18 Take heed therefore

Hi Lisa. I'm sorry, I've never heard of 'unfamiliar spirits'. Of 'familiar spirits': these actually speak about those who engage in sorcery or necromancy. These devilish practises are very real & those who call up evil spirits wholly immerse themselves in that spirit world. So, when 'familiar' is used in this instance, the Bible translators have taken the word from Latin, which is 'familiaris'. And this word has several applications, & in this case, denoting 'a servant or household slave'. Then when we see 'familiar spirits' used many times in the Old Testament, it should give us an image of a sorcerer/necromancer who gives his/her authority over the spirits that he regularly identifies with (thus becoming a familiar spirit). These spirits then are subject to his/her commands.

But my guess is that 'unfamiliar spirits' are the opposite to what I've described here, but I don't believe that there are any references to them in the Bible and so I wouldn't know what the preacher you heard, was referring to. The only Spirit we know & to Whom we are subject, is the Holy Spirit of God and He is not subject to us, rather He ministers to us in the Love & Power of God, which those 'familiar spirits' are never able to do.

Parable of the Sower Luke 8:5

"The sower went out to sow his seed: and in his sowing, some fell beside the wayside; and it was trodden down, and the birds of the air devoured it.

6 And other fell upon the rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, on account its not having moisture.

7 And other fell in the midst of the thorns; and the thorns sprang up together, and

stifled it.

8 And others fell upon good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold." And when He had said these things, He cried, "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."

9 And His disciples asked Him, saying, What might this parable be?

10 And He said, "Unto you it has been given to get to know the secrets of the kingdom of God: but to the rest within parables; in order that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

11 Now the parable means this: The seed represents the word of God.

12 Those beside the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and snatches away the word out of their hearts, in order that they should not believe and be saved.

13 They upon the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word of God in

association with joy; and these have no root, which for a season believe, and within time of trial fall away

14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, as they go on their way, and are stifled by cares and riches and pleasures of the life that is lived, and bring no fruit to perfection.

15 But that in the good ground are they, which within an honest and good heart, having heard the word of God, hold it fast, and bring forth fruit in patient endurance.

16 No man, when he hath lighted a lamp, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a couch; but setteth it upon a lampstand, that they which enter in may see the light.

17 For not anything is hidden, that shall not become manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not become known and come to light.

18 Take heed therefore how ye hear:

It's a blessing to go through the book of Gal 3. Truly God doesn't change, neither is his way. If Abraham was justified by faith, then even us today are justified by faith; faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.John1:29. John 19:30. Having therefore confidence to enter the holiest by the blood of Jesus, the blood through which God has made us righteous, and holy , we are going to heaven, I give glory to God. Amen

Hello, Pamela

Do you have a pastor that you can ask to baptize you? You can speak with him concerning this to learn more about the significance of water baptism to a believer. You can also search online with a question like: what is water baptism all about and why is it important? You may get some good information there. If you feel led by the Holy Spirit to be water baptized, then do it.

Does God send an angel to give someone a message to share with a group of people in this day and age.

it's a blessing to use the online bible

Pamela. God made this easy we complicate it ask forgiveness of sin, don't

Dwell on it Confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe it in your heart and you will

Receive power from on high or get born again of holy spirit. I personally have

Never been water baptised but I do speak in tongues. So believe and let Go

And let God or ad I like to say let r rip tatter chip figure of speech! Lol

S. Spencer. Amen brother and in addition Ephesians 5:1+2 or walk God inside minded remembering God is Love.

The first five verses are indicative of Christ ascending to heaven after Satan attempted to kill the Messiah. This reflects the prophecy of Mtthew 2:18; as well as the third of the angels that Lucifer drew under his spell in the past in verse 4. There is also an alternative interpretation of the Raptured church being the "manchild." It is true that it is the heritage of the saints to rule and reign with Christ ( Rev. 2:26-28). There are supporting verses to us being Kings and Priests in other places as well. The general statement here can be that some are taken to heaven; others protected on earth of His people (and of course some are martyred). God seems to show favor to the 144,000 in particular here; however and perhaps to the remnant in Petra.

Verse 7-12 show Michael; who is the angel who had contented with Satan previously over the body of Moses (Jude; verse 9). He watches over His people ( Dan. 12:1). He will battle with Satan with each opposing army of angels. Of course; Satan loses and is cast to earth. This gives the victorious statements in verses 10-12. It seems here that the accuser through the whole first half of the Trib. will be accusing us. He won't be able to get in the way of the Lord. Some say this is only for those still alive; but I can't see how that can be said. In any event we ALL will be glad when this event happens.

The rest of the passage gets into God's protection against a "flood" verse 15 (some take it as a band of warriors; but possibly it is a literal flood) which occurs after Satan is cast down. After God protects His own (probably hiding in Petra); Satan goes after the rest of the believers; which will be those in the next chapter taking the mark and going after nonbelievers themselves; most likely or with his minions.

Brothern.

It's my opinion that when we take liberty to engage on a website or any other social gathering we tend to set aside the teachings for the Church and become liberal in our walk!

Just because a website gives us liberty to conduct ourselves in an open way doesn't mean you set aside what's given to the Church!! Our church guidelines are accepted.

It's as tho we leave our light at home. The Church is in the world to be a witness and have a compact on the lost,

So bring EVERYTHING you are taught and believe in to the site Church.

A BELIEVER CAN'T LEAVE THE CHURCH BEHIND! YOU ARE THE CHURCH.

Ephesians 5:7-21. be not ye therefore partakers with them.

For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

These and ALL of Paul teachings should be part of our everyday walk, not just with our local gathering on Sundays.

These things is set in order for a reason.

God bless.

Hi everyone.

I've been unable to keep up with the site over the last few days. However I just read a few comments and replies, It's one thing to disagree and rebuke and then there's is those who expose themselves.

We all understand that all of us is not brothern and this brotherhood is not defined on how well we teach or preach or agreeing with someone.

WE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS!! Matthew 7:15-16.

You can be well doctrined and be as fruitless as a broom stick.

When someone holds the truth and share it, if your ears have been opened you will RECEIVE it! This is a work of the Holyspirit.

But if someone of the world who happens to be amongst us hears that same truth and don't have the spirit don't be surprised if they hate you. John 15:18-19.

They're not hating you because they disagree with you. They're hating you because they have a different spirit than you.

HOWEVER!! Agreeing on doctrine doesn't confirm anything but truth should produce fruit and that fruit should be displayed in our lives.

1 John 4:8. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:13. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1 John 4:7. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:12. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

1 John 4:16-17. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

This is for one to examine himself!

1 John 4:13.

This is uniquely written to and for the brethren.

God bless.

Jesse. One other point to make some of us oida God and some of us

By grace Ginosko you can tell the difference.

God created everything good. He knows everything. If evil did not exist then how was satan able to have evil in him. GOD knew that satan would turn against him and threw the people and world into sin. If GOD wanted only good then why allow sin to corrupt the good he only wanted. It's like we were set up to fail from the beginning. GOD knew what satan was going to do and allowed it. Why didnt he stop evil before it began. He could have. I believe in GOD but something's make no sense. Incest is a sin. Adultery is a sin. Murder is a sin. The old testament that's all it was. It confuses me. Why couldnt GOD prevent the evil before it began and we all could be filled with love and joy and be with GOD in his presence. I dont fit in this crazy evil world. I'm a misfit. I want to be with jesus.

Jesse. I tell this to myself and other believers constantly on the cross our

Brother said forgive them father for they know not what they do and another

One in Hebrews 12:2 I can't begin to comprehend the who for the joy a spiritual

Quality that was set before Him endured the cross dispising the shame this verse

Is incredible. These things apply to all who are endeavoring to Agapeo so that being said I will see you here there or in the air brother.

Dear Jesse,

Glad to be there for you. I think both Henry and I desired to dampen down what seemed like hostility towards you. I have been blessed again and again by your posts. We have not agreed on everything, but we have been respectful to one another, addressing the content of our viewpoints expressed here without attacking one another's character. That is appreciated. I, too, think this thread should close. We can always pray for one another when things get dicey. God's blessing upon you, Henry, and Luke today.