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Hello Henry.

It is more inspiring to know your favorite epistles because you must be working in your own holiness as well. Your Godly testimony and the testimony of all saints that are here on earth are what the world needs today. We are in the perilous times. We need to be in one accord in one body of Christ. Every member is important. A Family is the smallest unit of a society. The family that prays together stays together. This site is a family that reads the Word of God. There maybe differences of opinions because of the traditions of men or for whatever reason it may be. We continue to pray because the Lord God in Heaven is already alive in us. We are dead in our body as Christ died. We are baptized by His death and yet we are alive in Spirit. Every word we speak must edify a person. Your response lift up my soul in heaven and willing and still able to do more for God; and my prayers will always be to keep you and yours and all saints from any harm this world brings. Thank you for your fellowship. Ephesians 1:4

Hi.

This is not an attempt to start a new thread on demonic spirits or evil spirits.

I just wanted to share just a few scriptures on them and why I believe they exist and are amongst us.

Their mission is to lure you away or distort the truth in DIVERSE WAYS!! ( Their Doctrine may sound a lot like yours, IF they believe the Doctrine of truth they will bare fruit. )

1 John 4:1-3.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.

Matthew 12:43-45.

Jude 1:4.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Matthew 13:37-40.

Notice who planted the tares?

I believe God with his sovereignty and foreknowledge uses vessels of dishonour to accomplish his will.

Romans 9:17-23. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

HATH NOT THE POTTER POWER OVER THE CLAY, OF THE SAME LUMP TO MAKE ONE VESSEL UNTO HONOUR, AND ANOTHER UNTO DISHONOUR?

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the VESSELS OF WRATH FITTED TO DESTRUCTION:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Also notice

Habakkuk 1:5-11.

God bless.

Love the revelation as taught by hal lindsey/ revelation

As his counterpart

Accord:

To give or grant, especially as being due or appropriate.

To cause to conform or agree; bring into harmony.

To be in agreement, unity, or harmony. synonym: correspond

Worship:

The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.

The ceremonies, prayers, or other religious forms by which this love is expressed.

Ardent admiration or love; adoration.

God didn't "respect" Cain's offering why? God want's the best from us, in this case (offerings) Cain brought of the fruit of the ground, Abel brought by faith of the firstlings of his flock, and the fattest ones too.

Abel brought the best and the fattest sheep, Cain being the offspring of the Serpent, whereas the fruit they bare are bad, see parable of the (fig tree) God didn't respect it.

Gigi. I have also pointed out scripture in context and in correct segment

Of biblical history in the wai God dealt with man which is another aspect

Not taken into consideration in biblical research. Example patriarchs before

The law period then grace period in which we are now but that's another

Subject matter. Have a good evening.

Cort. Whoever it is if they don't change their lifestyle and come to God and

Repent and confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe in their heart and do God's

Word it isn't going to be a glorious eternity. Sodom and Gomorrah was a clue

And so is Romans 1:21-28 and a few other places there's the truth. Also nobody

And I mean no body is born homosexual male or female! God Bless I pray they

Change their hearts and get softer ones. God is waiting with open arms to heal!

Gigi. Obviously you didn't read my reply to Gianni's which would give my

Conclusion on the matter so again moving on. P.S. I did see my error but

Their Ministries did not start until pentecost biblically.

Henry,

I was not saying that Peter is the head of the Church. I was quoting what Jesus said. And spoke that it was what Peter confessed that was the foundation of the Church of Jesus. Jesus was going to build His Church on this rock-the confession of Peter, not on Peter. You definitely misunderstood and misrepresented my viewpoint in your reply. I am good ending this conversation with you for today.

Hello again Henry,

I believe that Giannis shared a Scripture during Jesus' ministry where they were called apostles. Either you accept what is plainly said in Scripture or you don't. That is up to you. As for me, if someone points out in Scripture something that shows me that my idea is incorrect, I will accept what the God has revealed instead of continuing to promote a view that has been proven as incorrect. On this topic of the apostles, Giannis showed you that she and I are correct on this topic.

Anyway, thank you for discussing with me on this. I do not wish to continue this topic concerning the calling of the followers of Jesus "apostles" because the Scripture Giannis cited told us the answer and so there isn't much point in continuing to speak about it, as far as from my end is concerned. Have a good evening, Henry. We will speak to one another again on another topic, I hope.

Amanda. One other point Christianity is not a religion which is an idea or

Belief system developed by man's intellect. Christianity is the way God the

Creator And Father of Jesus Christ communicated by example his love for

His greatest creation man bacause He being The Greatest Father wanting a

Family for eternity through his only son Jesus Christ. When born again you

Receive Christ in you the Hope of Glory hence the term Christian or Christ

In first proclaimed in Antioch. There is no other true belief system in the

World other than Christianity. All correct moral law and order and ethics

Originate from scripture.

Dear Don,

I just reviewed your post and my reply and I realize I did not address the things you itemized. They are assumptions about me, whom you do not know at all. Your assumptions about me are erroneous, and so I do not think I should spend time speaking to them. It seems profitless for me to do so. I do not need to prove myself to you, nor you to me. We are to accept one another as brethren in the faith with love and courtesy. I do so concerning you. I will say that I have been a believer all of my life, began reading Scripture seriously when I was 9 years old and have been in the Word since then. I am almost 66. So, I have a long history of turning to God's Word in matters of faith and practice. I trust God to lead me in what is true as I have always asked Him to do so with me. Hope this helps you know me a little better. Hopefully, we can discuss other topics on this forum over time.

Hello Don.

First of all, I do believe that the original writers of the Scripture wrote down God's Word perfectly.

Secondly, I do not think that ANY translation is perfect because Scripture does not say so anywhere.

Thirdly, The Scriptures do not identify the KJV as a perfect nor inspired translation.

Fourthly, I appreciate your input and concern of me.

Fifthly, I do not feel it wise to take YOUR word on this matter as being infallible any more than any other source of information.

Sixthly, I do not think it unwise to use online resources, (as this site is) nor books, nor pastors, nor other believers as places/persons I can receive instruction from when I need more information, nor is it sinful to do so.

In the Seventh place, I do think it is wise to know the Scriptures and to study them. In these Words we have what we need pertaining to salvation, the character of God and mankind, as well as spiritual beings, good and evil. In Scriptures we learn how to come into a loving, dependent relationship with God who made us and all that exists, seen and unseen. We need Him more than we could ever know in this life.

And lastly, I think that we have exchanged enough on this topic here. I bid you goodnight and wish you well. We are both free to have our own viewpoint on this topic. Have a good evening and peaceful rest for the night.

Ronnette. Howdy Ephesians and Collisions are my favorite Epistles love

In Christ.

Gianni's Thanks for bringing that to my attention but in function in the body of Christ did not happen til pentecost. That's why all of them ran out because of fear but Judas totally costing his life and ministry because he realized he betrayed inoccent

Blood and out of condemnation suicided. What's interesting the other eleven ran out of fear also. So again thanks for bringing Luke to my attention but that does not

Change my belief that men being born again of holy spirit didn't begin until Pentecost the birthday of the church of Jew and gentile the mystery of the body of Christ. Done God bless

Hi everyone,

I thank God for your all for sharing this bible link. I am blessed by this.

Gigi, sorry for the delay; I've been sick, but I'm okay now.

I encourage YOU to do spot-on research, not online, but in your KJV Bible because the solution to your confusion here is certainly not OUTSIDE the Scriptures. On Judgment Day we won't be judged by our online sources, but by the perfect Word of God. What you find there is right by Divine definition. Fallen humanity cannot rely on the graphic Word of God to tell us the truth through a multitude of imperfect translators. Truth itself can't be revised, but only discovered, for God Himself is Truth. If we need OTHER translations today to straighten out the errors in FORMER translations, then the logical conclusion is that God failed to reveal His truth to FORMER generations, which is completely absurd!

Three things you should clarify: 1. It seems new to you that the written Word of God is perfect in itself. 2. You seem to think God needs an array of IMperfect translators to perFECT what His omnipotent power of ordination has already perFECTED. 3. You don't seem to realize that God's choice in the matter of his Word is arbitrary. He doesn't require an army of translators to confirm whether or not his Divine Word is accurate. No, he needs only to ordain himself a TRANSLATION as he sees fit to carry his Perfect Word through the generations. Then, once chosen, he identifies it to fallen humanity. The current translation he is obviously using is the KJV. It has been doing God's bidding for 400 years, and does not appear to be waning in the eyes of humanity. Even the majority of other languages use the KJV as their base of translation.

You have a choice to make: Either God's written perfect Word of Truth moves through the human generations by the arbitrary power of God's ordination, or else imperfect human translators (some of them not even saved!) took it upon themselves to re-translate the Scriptures according to their own calculation of what is right or wrong.

I'll say much more on this if we continue.

Does gay ppl go to hell

Amanda a very good point you bring up . My answer to you is Those hypocritical people that do not live better lives but claim to be Gods people are just stumbling blocks to those around them . They cause people like your self to question the whole validity of it all .

And sinning even a small amount is not normal for Gods people . Sinning people can not be happy people . Deceived people think it's ok to sin since they received the gift of forgiveness. But that's just the beginning, not the end of the matter . If they go on sinning they are deceived. A real converted person is able to honor God by the help of God through Jesus . Ask Jesus for your help and needs in all things . Sinning is proof of a failure in a life . The fear of God will keep us from going away from God , but the grace of God will help us get closer to God .

Please read the Bible prayerfully ask Jesus for help to understand it and empower you with the word .

The word of God is spiritual food we all need to overcome the flesh that feeds on the things of the world .

Do not let the hypocrisy of others stumble you . Go on and seek the Lord .

Gigi. Jesus Christ at the last supper never called them apostles it says disciples

They didn't become Apostles til after Pentecost. Just reading what's written

It is God's word they in the gospels are caled followers and disciples and brothers

But not Apostles, not going to argue with God who chose the words, they became after new birth Apostles. Take care moving on.

Gianni's. Again some of the things stated I never said so best I move on to

another subject in God's word. Good Day!

Gigi I'm not confused at all and your Reference to Peter being the head is a

Well known Roman Catholic train of thought when the Church in the age of

Grace Christ Himself who the gates of Hell will not prevail against is the Head

Of the body of Christ not Peter. So I'm moving on take care Agapeo.

Adding Romans 2:12-16

Gigi. It is their privilege to reply or not and as you said nor everyone has your

Point of view but I discuss I don't argue because Either you believe or you

Don't that's up to you. So have a great day.

Hello, this exact topic is currently being discussed in another discussion thread you might want to look for that- has lots of replies.

Henry.

Luke 6:12-14

"And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.

And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named APOSTLES;"

Now let's see the definition of the word "apostle". It comes from the greek "apostole" which means mission and "apostolos" (engl. apostle) means missioner, one who is sent (by God) to missions(to preach Jesus to people and establish churches). So don't get confused by the name apostle, it is not a mysterious title, it is a specific service, it simply means missioner.

So apostle is a person who is selected by God to send him to missions, that is to send him to the world to preach Jesus and establish churches. The 12 were the only ones who were sent to missions? Of course not.Those were for the Jews only. Paul was an apostle too, to the nations. Titus 1:1 "Paul, a servant of God, and an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;"

Only Paul was an apostle to the nations? No not only him, all of his accompanions were, Barnabas, Luke, Timothy, Titus, Silas etc.

Also many others. Who established the church in Rome? In Collose? Not Paul, those churches were not established by Paul. Some other apostles(missioners) established those churches (although the Bible doesn't give any information about them). The 12 were the ones that lived with Jesus, the most formal ones, but there were many other who went and preached Jesus to the world and established churches. All those were not just disciples, they were apostles. Even in the following centuaries christians that went to all continents and preached the Gospel and established churches were apostles. As you said one of God's gifts to the church is the "apostle". Apostles never stopped existing in the church. Even today christians that perform that specific task are apostles.

Hi brother,

There are a few. However, the one that jumps out immediately is John 14:6. Jesus told us, "I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".

I stand in agreement with your prayer, brother. May our Lord hear and answer from Heaven.