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QJohn 16:12-3 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 Corinthians 2:15-16. Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. Galatians 1:3-5. All I can tell us is thismemorize your KJV Bible. Save as many as your love one's. Be patient. Listen more and speak less. Love your spouse deeply. Grow in grace and true charity 1 Corinthians 13:1-13. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. The time is at hand. We will see more changes and mark this day. Watch carefully. Revelation 3:2-3. There is a spiritual message in Job 20:1-29. Be careful for nothing Philippians 4:6. Hebrews 10:31, but Revelation 21:8. I comfort you with these 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18. As you walk in the Spirit of God, Proverbs 23:4-5. Those who are in Spirit understand Psalm 90:10 read the whole chapter. Our meditation be Psalms 91:1:16 memorize and our prayers today be Psalms 55:1-23. Peace.

Thanks for the comments and my apologies for identifying this scripture as Luke instead of Mark correctly. Obviously, I was studying in Mark. Thanks to all for taking the time and interest to find the scripture and offer your comments.

I love what you did there 'quench not the spirit ' you tied Numbers 11 V 24-29 with Mark 9 v 38-40 and Luke 9 v 49+50 but I'm guessing you already knew that !

Hey Giannis,

I have been to many different denominations of churches, and the ones that are close to me now since I am old are more concerned with entertainment and attendance than the truth of God's word. There are 6 different denominations of churches within 1 mile of me and for 18 years there has been no knock on my door from any. All of my family are gone and the people I meet in places I shop and a site like this is my gathering place.

I have not given much of my testimony about my life and what I have gone through and what the Lord has brought me through and what I have seen, I have no doubt the Holy Spirit abides in me. I have had discussions on this site, even with you and I have always tried not ever to imply I am right, and you are wrong. I have always written in love and tried to inspire one to study for their understanding, not mine.

There are Godly teachers out there but there are also many that are not and if we do not study, that is what we have been told to do and try the spirits. I may not agree with someone's understanding, I know some have disagreed with mine, but if someone presents something different than our understanding and if we do not with an open mind study it to try the spirit and just say theirs is wrong and mine is right and if we do not let the Holy Spirit show us the truth, we fall short.

It is not, my Church is better than your Church, it is one body, and that body is not in a building. If we disagree, may we communicate in respect and love for each other as brothers and sisters in Jesus the Christ our Savior and study for the truth even if we find we were wrong we should praise God we were shown the truth.

If the Holy Spirit shows us the truth, it is up to us to accept it even if it is different from what we have been taught. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A closed mind has no ears and cannot hear. The search for Truth is a wonderful journey that starts with humbling ourselves.

God bless,

RLW

Thanks for your comment. I have no argument at all with your comment in any way. However, I think this "certain" young man has significance. Could it be that he is mentioned again in other places and again not identified? There's nothing in my belief that hinges on this one word of this one scripture and I have no desire to argue or disagree with anyone. I'm just curious and have always wondered about this "certain young man" in this passage. He was following Jesus in the literal sense and the other young men laid hold on him, but not anyone else. The disciples were there and they did not lay hold on them. What was unique or what did this one young man do that caused them to attempt to lay hold on him? Where did he flee to? Just curious.

This story is about Jesus Christ, my Saviour. I have no desire to get away from that - just curious in that there's nothing at all insignificant in the scriptures.

I am adding this, so I am not to be misunderstood.

With the phrase "day of the Lord" the Bible refers to 3 different dates:

1. the rupture, which to me it seems to take place before the antichrist makes his appearance in the world, when things are still going well, so people deal with their everyday works as usual. This is something that can not be possible at the end of the 7 year tribulation period where so many catastrophies will take place and people will be scared to death.

2. the second coming of Jesus on earth to fight the antichrist with his army at Armagedon.

3. In those verses in 2 Peter 3:8-10 it is implied that the day of the Lord is at the end of the millenium.

So 3 different dates are called the same name, "the day of the Lord"

Those verses in Peter are very confusing to understand, if the millenium is a literal period of time. How come the Lord comes as a thief in the night when we know when the end of the millenium is, and the saints are already ruling the world?

Personally, I don't believe that the millemium is a figurative event like the Ortodoxes believe. So the only solution is that "day of the Lord" are called all 3 different dates. Same name, different dates.

Revelation 21 Eternity

I would like to look at this book with a LITERAL approach. When we consider the verse in 2 Peter 3:10 we see the same word for smallest particle (signifying an atom) as being dissolved.

Scientists; of course understand the basic structure of the atom and that it is held together by various forces; but ultimately don't understand WHY these exist; along with the concept of decay and or death based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics; gravity; and of course what happened BEFORE the universe came into existence. It seems clear here that when this event occurs; that there is a reconfiguration of the solid matter; and such a fire would immediately vaporize the oceans. (verse 1). When we see in verse 2 a city with these literal dimensions coming down to earth that would facilitate a final change in the structure of the earth and clearly make Jerusalem visible worldwide (being over 1000 miles high.)

Since God follows a logical sequence; we see how when in the vial judgments all life in the sea perished; we have a lifeless ocean that is now completely removed. The prophecy in Ezekiel 47:10-12 shows how fish proliferate in the inland sea area of the Dead Sea during the Millennium and likely beyond as well; with water from the heavenly city brining fresh water to revitalize things (as already is starting to occur).

Verses 3 through 4 show how until this point tears are still part of the lives at least of mortal men. Those who are righteous and stand before the throne seeing all these things happen at the last judgment surely will be overcome with emotion. Their tears are wiped away; and finally there is no mor death; mourning; crying or pain. This reflects 1 Cor 15:26 and an even earlier verse in Hosea where death is finally defeated is mentioned later in the same chapter (v. 55-57). Again; some to justify doctrines try to make these passages symbolic.

How can we not do violence to scriptures doing this?

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*resistant or resistance

God bless our conversation in Christ Jesus!

What is the time frame to give context to your questions?

Are we talking 1 year , 20 years 200 years 500 years ?

Sorry I don't know .

That Word Made His Dwelling Among Us

John 1:14-18

14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15. John bared witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

16. And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

18. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The Word Became Flesh

John 1:1-5

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2. The same was in the beginning with God.

3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5. And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehend it not.

what does jer.32 verse35 mean going thru the fire..

How does Romans1 1-23 Address stigmatization

That Word Made His Dwelling Among Us

John 1:14-18

14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15. John bared witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

16. And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

18. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

If it was only Adam and Eve and Cain killed Abel.Hoe did he go and find a wife and who would be looking to slay him.

Corinthians Love Chapter

1 Corinthians 13:1-13

1. Though I speak with the tongues of man and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or tinkling cymbal.

2. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understanding all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5. Doth not behave itself for unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6. Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7. Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8. Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecy, they shall fail; whether there be tongues they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9. For we know in part, and we prophecy in part.

10. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12. For now we see through a glass darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three, but the greatest of these is charity.

James 5:19-20 After carefully studying 1:21 concerning how the soul is saved by the engrafted word, which refers unto the Ten Commandments written in the heart, and in chapter 2:14-22 faith with works is dead concerning the saving of the soul, as it must be saved by faith with works, he concludes here that the soul being unsaved enjoys the pleasures of sin, only when someone is able to convert the backslidden Christian from living an immoral lifestyle, is there any hope for that soul from living in death.

The foundation of amillennial belief is free will to choose to accept our human condition after leaving the first commandment, yet carrying the promise of redemption to the Cross by repentance and faith. The be-hind the scenes belief is in understanding the non-resistance Jesus had to the Cross and that he called his followers to do the same. Non-resistance and the predetermined will are incompatible with a return of Christ to the earth. The redeemed carry the promise fulfilled in peace in their hearts and lives until the last day.

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Yes if the Lord was not on my side I should have fallen many times to destruction. I can look back over many years and see this is the case . In Jude He reassures us that no challenge is too great . Verse 24

Galatians 1:19 Paul did not see any other apostles but James the brother of Jesus. Now read on and absorbed what God revealed to us. There is a reason why this verse is important. Other Scholars said that the Book of James was written by James the brother of Jesus. How could that be? The message in James was that faith without works is dead James 2:20 & James 2:26. How can you explained the opposition on Pauls messages Ephesians 2:8-9? It is because the author of James is James the brother of John the sons of Zebedee. That James was killed by King Herod Acts 12:2 about 44 AD or CE. He was not seen by Paul after Paul went to Arabia. That James had written the book of James before James died to tell the 12 tribes what is about to happened in the tribulation ( my opinion after the church age will be raptured) James 1:1. If this was written by James the brother of Jesus, he would have not contradicted what he heard from Paul because he saw Paul right after Paul went to Arabia Galatians 1:17-19. The second part of 2 Timothy 2:15 we are not ashamed to tell all that we must rightly divide the word of truth. Know the physical and spiritual messages of God. It is only revealed when you trust Jesus and not yourself. If you do not rightly divide you will be confuse of your salvation. We are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Amazing God we have. I glorify God by telling you this revelation. I please only God and not men. My life is a true testament of God's glory. Who has the mind of God Romans 11:33-36, 1 Corinthians 2:15-16. My brothers and sisters in Christ, if you are a leader in church, let the Spirit of God speaks to you..Take, I pray thee, my blessing that is brought to thee; because God hath dealt graciously with me, and because I have enough. And he urged him, and he took it. Genesis 33:11. But he said, As the LORD liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none. And he urged him to take it; but he refused.

Galatians 1:4-5 Amen. Galatians 1:3.

One In Christ

Ephesians 2:11-17

11. Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenant of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13. But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15. Having abolished his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinance; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16. And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17. And came and preached peace to you which were a far off, and to them that were nigh.

18. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Alive With Christ

Ephesians 2:1-10

1. Any you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sin,

2. Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3. Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lust of our flesh; fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love where with he loved us,

5. Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ (by grace ye are saved;)

6. And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

7. That in the ages to come he might shew exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is gift of God:

9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Very nicely explained by Henry in 1710. This chapter speaks so loud to me that there is a need to share. First, the fact that we all know in Acts what happened in Damascus when Paul was converted. Here Paul uses the words to tell the readers in Spiritual way that He is in fact chosen by Jesus Christ 1:1 and became a servant of Christ 1:10. Paul even certified that he received the gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 not from man, but it is indeed by the revelation of Jesus Christ 1 :10-11. To certify something is indeed really deep in any professions. You investigate, you observe, you speak the truth, you have proven without a shadow of a doubt, you interviews people involved, you have all strong evidence, you even travel to a place to find that true evidence, you rely only on facts and the person that has integrity to tell truth. I guess you get the gist. The fact that he went to Arabia (Mt. Sinai) 1:17 God must have told Paul something that only Paul knows. Remember 2 Corinthians 12:1-4? How can you not think Paul is the 12th Apostle with this evidence? That is why 1 Timothy 2:15 tells us to study. Go figure and look at other Bible other than KJV. They removed the word "study". Folks I am not kidding you. There is something real God is telling us today. I would not lie either about this because I sense the urgency to tell this forum for whatever reason God only knows. Anyway, Paul then saw Peter for 15 days 1:18 and imagined the conversations then between Peter and Paul. In Acts Peter is telling everybody WHO they crucified was God. Then Paul revelation was that blood of Jesus Christ will saved the whole world if you believe and trust and have faith on that alone Romans 3:25. Not of works just by faith Ephesians 2:8-9. What a profound revelation. You do not want to be accursed 1:9 outside 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. We will be judged according to Paul's gospel Romans 2:16, Romans 16:25, 2 Timothy 2:8. I have not even say thekickeronthischapterandIranoutofspace

Please read and apply these verses to your post Giannis . Numbers Ch 11 V 24-29 . 1st Sam Ch 10 V 1-12 and Ch 25 v 1-35 . 1st Kings Ch 22 V 1-28 . Prov Ch 1 V 20-23 . Isaiah Ch 48 v 12-16 and Ch 59 v 9-21 : As for me , this is my covenant with them , saith the LORD ; my Spirit that is upon thee , and my words which I have put in thy mouth , shall not depart out of thy mouth , nor out of the mouth of thy seed , nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed , saith the LORD , from henceforth and forever . John Ch 14 V 16-20 and in particular v 26 . John Ch 15 V 26 and John Ch 16 v 13 . Finally 1st Thessalonians Ch 5 V 19+ 20 , I could go on . God uses whomever He sees fit to use to get His message across . I don't know anything about anyone on here and don't wish to know , I only know if their words are in line with the Bible . I don't care who anyone is how rich or clever or even how long they have been reading the Bible . I only go by their words and their heart . If those are in line with Christ , who once said to his disciples who were complaining about someone who they didn't know who was going around doing miracles , Let him alone . It's not for us to judge people , if their words are in line with the Bible , which doesn't mean a church , it means God's Words , that's fine by me .

What is temptation? How does it come? When you are alone, as Jesus was? If so, How will you recover! What is the cover?

These instances, God opens the doors that allow just enough darkness in, that we might see if only a shadow of things as they are, and the things to come!

How loving He is, giving us a glimpse of His power and glory! Redeeming us every second of every day! That we have an escape, If only for moment, as He allows us to know the power of His glory! Is, real, as the life we have in Him!

You see, this is how He works! This is how He strengthens the soul! This is the manna from heaven! This is the bread of life!

Temptation God allows. He is the one that allows Satan. The Father's will is to make us stronger!

Christ knows His own word! He knows the power of it! He knows that the laws of heaven and earth rotate and evolve from it! He knows all things!

Satan must follow after, if only for a little while! Soon to be frustrated once again, only by the power of His word!

We should always reflect on these things, these things that our Lord DIED for. We once again inherit the knowledge of knowing the truth! The wisdom to know the difference between reflective faith, and actual faith! How temptation reveals Satan's weakness's and strengthens us! The soul that believes will never be conquered! The soul of those who obey His word!

Thanks be to our Lord Jesus Christ!

Repent and be Baptized

Hello Richard.

The theory that the millenium started since the begining of the church era and stretches till nowadays (and goes further on) is not new. It is a doctrine in Eastern Orthodox Chistianity. They believe that the 1000 year period is not a litteral period of time but it is figurative. and all events described are also figurative

Why do they think that? They rely on the verses in 2 Peter 3:8-10. "(8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. (9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.(10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

In verse 10 it says that the day of the Lord will come when everything (ie earth and sky) will be burned away. But that time occurs at the end of the millenium.( Revelation 21:1).It is when everything old goes away and new earth and heavens are created. So they consequently reject the theory of a pretribulation rapture.

What could be the answer to that? A possible answer (that my church believe is right) is that what is called "the day of Lord" is not literally a day or a specific time but a period of time. A period during which all the events leading to the complete ending of this world will take place, stretching from the pretribulation rapture to the White Throne. It seems that there is no other solution since we have to combine 3 different events in one "day". (a)The rapture, which for me is clear enough that will take place when things in the world are still going well. (b)The second coming of Jesus on earth. We know that time, it is at the end of the 7th week. (c)The distruction of the old universe.

I have to be honest , you do sound a bit like the pharisees Gianni's , I'm sure that not your intention but look at what you seem to be saying : don't listen to him/ her over there , that person is uneducated , that person is just a..... carpenter ? How does he know what he's talking about ? We are God's priests , God will tell us first if He wants to say anything , God wouldn't tell him/ her anything ! Don't take any notice of that unkept loner , we are the educated knowledgeable ones , why would God reveal anything to him / her . Your post does come across a bit like that I'm sorry to say . God uses whomever He chooses . I'm certain He has and hopefully will continue to use us on here . And not just the well educated who think that because they are so , that they are closer to God . Please don't be offended by my rebuke , I usually enjoy your posts and I have genuine affection for you and I'm certain you did not mean to offend , but you kind of destroyed the whole purpose of this site .

The only degrees of which we read in the Bible are "THE Degrees" (steps) on the sundial of Ahaz by which the shadow of the sun went backwards in the days of his son Hezekiah, as a sign from Jehovah that he should recover from his sickness while Jerusalem was surrounded by the armies of the King of Assyria, and Hezekiah was under the sentence of death from the King of Terrors

On his recovery from his sickness, Hezekiah said ( Isa. 38:20) The LORD was gracious to save me: therefore we will sing my

songs [of the Degrees ] to the stringed instruments all the days of our life in the house of the LORD.

2 Kings 20

Isaiah 38

Chris,

That makes sense since Jerusalem, especially the Temple, was built on a hill, a southern extension of a mountain.

Hello Patrick, What you are identifying is "dispensationalism", and yes, it has not been taught throughout church history. You can search online one the subject. You can find on the site testallthingsDOTcom articles concerning this viewpoint that introduced the pre-tribulation rapture into Christian thought in the 1800's by Irwin and Darby in Ireland. Irwin learned of it from the writings of a Jesuit priest from Spain.

This site mentioned has several articles that explain many things about dispensationalism and what are the pros and cons of this viewpoint. I do not think that this KJV forum is the best place to study and discuss this since there are sites readily available that will give articles that address both sides. This forum tends to get heated up with topics such as this with people attempting to prove their viewpoint in this discussion format. I don't think that would be as helpful as you studying from online sites on your own. That is my recommendation.

To answer your question, the teaching of the Christian faith throughout history has been that Jesus will come back "on the Last Day" and that is when we all will be resurrected or translated. This last day is the Final Day in the History of the earth as it is now. Jesus' return will be the culmination of redemptive history and the plan of salvation in Him since before creation. There are several names that identify a couple differing viewpoints on this topic. post-millenialism, pre-millenialism, amillenialsim. These viewpoint address the coming of the Kingdom of God and the reign of Jesus over all the nations.