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  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    A messenger of Satan

    When looking at the life of Paul ( 2 Cor. 12:17) or that of Job (focusing on chapter 1 and 2 with ramifications through the rest of the book) we see how Satan was actively interfering with and causing suffering for two great men of God. As we know Peter also was given thoughts from Satan ( Mark 8:33); and I recently brought up how that was very soon after something was revealed directly from the Holy Spirit; namely Christ's Divinity ( Matt. 16:17).

    These verses give us two major concepts to ponder; first that those who are truly serving the Lord are going to be attacked; and secondly that in a way as a part of the suffering promised to us ( 2 Timothy 3:12) we can be assured that we are one of His own.

    That ties into the series I am planning to put forth on assurance of salvation; but I am going to focus on this theme for a moment. I believe that it is fundamental in understanding Ephesians 6:12 and in general to how spiritual oppression and attacks shouldn't be ignored as what we will experience. In fact; all those who oppose us are more or less in league with the god of this world ( 2 Cor. 4:4; 1 Peter 4:12-19).

    Okay; I am going to pursue this one avenue (I prevaricated above). Satan is the accuser of the brethren ( Rev. 12:10). Since He often begins with the mind dangling the carrot of temptations and the like; then accusing us when we succumb to it brings thoughts that we have of being lost; unworthy; or an overall fear as a result of his minions affecting us. We need to differentiate between a Holy Spirit conviction of John 16:8 and that of our accuser. Also; when we sin and don't seek forgiveness Satan acts as a usurper with the legal authority we have opened up and this is allowed by the Lord oftentimes to buffet us. There is a difference between embracing a lifestyle of sin and momentary lapses. Remember that worldly sin brings death; Godly sorrow leads to repentance. ( 2 Cor. 7:10).
  • Josephus - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 6:4-6-- Jesus isn't gonna come die again. The scripture says it's impossible to be renewed if fallen away After receiving Jesus Then killing him again. This is a horrible scripture to think upon. Help us LORD that those you have called be chosen also.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Concluding thoughts on introduction to assurance of salvation.

    I would appreciate for those few that regularly respond to my posts to keep these discussions in prayer. I suppose I could put a separate prayer request up; but you guys know who I am talking about here. It would be good for this to permeate to a larger audience. I will; of course ask for prayer on that happening not for my own ego but because there are many who need to have a healthy assurance of salvation; and others who need to wrestle it out; as it were like Jacob with the Angel of God. How bad to we want the blessing; or how bad do we want Jesus? This is not wrong to pursue; as the persistent widow parable states. Sadly (speaking for myself) I spend much of my time asking for things that aren't His will and that is usually due to my heart condition rather than any obvious worldly desire as I wouldn't want to do something that stupid asking for a rebuke. I don't think I'm alone here; I sense that many have hearts that have turned cold and distant so that the concept of a loving God seems like an ecclesiastical topic on an esoteric plane rather than a daily living reality. Ugh; I suppose I'm worse off than I want to admit so I'll take any prayer I can get.

    Living out what is truly our living Hope should be done with love; joy; peace; longsuffering and the like. I feel at this juncture that I should ask you guys to pray that my heart is in the same place with my mind; which I feel has been trained to function at some proficiency in meting out the Word as a Berean and in a balanced manner. I want to warn about emotions and things other than the Word and Spirit ( Romans 8:16) giving us assurance. Those who know me here are aware somewhat of my personal struggles living with unsaved parents at present; and scars from a divorce years ago. Isaiah 53:5 is something I feel I must live out more effectively.

    Anyway; as I said I hope this generates further discussion on an important topic.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Introduction to the concept of eternal assurance; "once saved always saved".

    I have seen currently individuals who are knowledgeable in the Word and who seem to love the Lord who argue that we can lose our salvation. I don't feel comfortable fellowshipping where that is the standard doctrine; although the conviction level for holiness seems commendable to me. Nonetheless; the enemy an cause havoc for those who would be in despair and perhaps self destructive over that type of message. Equally as concerning are those who are allowing certain sins; particularly those who support a lifestyle of sin in the church today holding onto what many call a "hyper grace" mentality. First and foremost; of course we are to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith and DO something about it if not. ( 2 Cor. 13:5). Those who are His; of course willl hear His voice ( John 10:16) and be taught by God ( John 6:45).

    Blessed assurance is something which must transcend this world; and our love for God supersede any other affections and loyalties for us to be a true disciple of God ( Matt. 10:37-38). If we love Him we will obey His commandments ( John 14:15); this is a verse I have repeated quite often lately on this site.

    I would make a basic comment at present that those who are His sense His love; and also recognize that when being chastised ( Hebrews 12:6). When the Spirit is grieved ( Eph 4:30-31) a true follower of Christ will be aware of it; after all He has made His (actually OUR) abode in these individuals ( John 14:23). It is also true that those who are unbelievers cannot love God but they certainly can fear Him. In today's society; however it is likely that such boldness in rebellion in the world is tied into the lack of fear of the Lord in churches. The compromised Gospel and lifestyles today I will tackle in future posts.

    The book of John is something I have already covered sometime last year in detail as to the many examples proving Predestination.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Assurance of salvation

    This being the Sunday where we honor Jesus' Resurrection; I don't want to delve too deeply into a new subject of controversy to stimulate discussion. I am planning; Lord willing to tackle the topic of "once saved; always saved" in terms of what (in the correct sense) that means; and what it doesn't mean. Ephesians 2:6-7 seems to indicate that we are in some sense "already raised" with Him; and glorification seems to be the final result of a saved individual after glorification according to Romans 8:30. That also; BTW matches up with John 3:16 with an ongoing (as the Greek indicates) process; rather than someone who believes in a mere confession never dying. These verses fit into the first concept that those who are called and chosen have what we may call undue "favor" on their lives; preserved on this earth until in time and space a verbal confession and change of heart occurs ( Romans 10:9). Also it is a continuing process of sanctification; resulting in good fruit being produced. I will fill in more scripture later on based on that topic.

    A basic stumbling block is those who say that any sin can make us disqualified to enter heaven. 1 John 1:10 should be a clear rebuttal of that; and Paul's letters to the Corinthians who clearly were manifesting "carnal" behavior as well as other warnings about losing reward and getting into heaven as though through the fire ( 1 Cor. 3:15) show that there is a more complex theology involving not just the saved and lost but those who are at various levels in their walk. It appears; however that those who are exposed to any truth are held accountable and judged in a harsher manner ( Matt. 11:21 for example).

    There are many sections of scripture such as large portions of Hebrews which are very challenging; my Dake's Bible has many hundreds of verses that make it seem we can lose our salvation; some of which are more easily refuted than others.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, if you believe and follow Jesus you will be.
  • Josephus - In Reply on Revelation 12 - 2 years ago
    I definitely agree that the WORD OF GOD is --
  • Josephus - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jesus didn't take in the nature of demons or nephilim or Angels or any other creature. He took the nature of Man died for Man. Make and female. Sons and daughters. Jesus took upon himself the seed of Abraham. I'm not gonna add the scripture references I don't think I need to. Good day Sir
  • Josephus - In Reply on Psalms 30 - 2 years ago
    Amen "Tunney" it's refreshing to see and hear, true.love adoration and respect for God's WORD. His HOLY GHOST that is our earnest till the purchased possession. And note comfort and spirit of truth that will guide into all truth. For whatsoever he hears from Jesus Christ he speaks to us to hear. In turn we be obedient. Follow me Jesus said- thank you for seeing Jesus and hearing him. God blesd
  • Josephus - 2 years ago
    Where did darkness come from?
  • GIGI - In Reply - 2 years ago
    S. Spencer,

    Have a blessed day in remembering our Lord's Resurrection today. How glorious is this event that justifies us.

    I think that the Triune nature of God is a deep mystery that we cannot fully know in this life. But, we can believe and proclaim what the Scriptures makes clear about this most important aspect of His nature, being one God in substance and three distinct persons in eternal relationship with one another in the Godhead. This is the God we know and worship. This is the Only God revealed in Scriptures. This is the Only God who will ever be. And this is the God who saves us.
  • Preacher of Truth - 2 years ago
    Spiritual Truth - Part 1

    The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.

    This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

    Please remember, the words from the 'Word of God' are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17). Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).

    Please study the 'Word of God' and learn of the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44) and how and by whom this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

    It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4), but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).

    Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).

    And then will I profess unto them I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23). If you would like to know who by nature your Father is, may we suggest you read John 8::43-45.
  • Hills - 2 years ago
    will i be saved
  • Tunney on Psalms 30 - 2 years ago
    Thank YOU FATHER for this day as I worship and glorify YOU on this Resurrection Sunday. Let YOUR face shine upon us as we go forth as an army to do YOUR will. Let all the saints arise and not be silent in giving YOU praise!

    May my tongue extol and magnify YOU, because YOU so richly deserve the praise we should give unto YOU. "May the words of my mouth be acceptable unto YOU."

    Thank YOU LORD for answered prayers and the peace and comfort that follows as we learn to abide in YOU according to Scripture. Isaiah 26: 3 "Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee."

    Praise the LORD for all on this forum and for the promises YOU give to us. May we all endeavor to trust, believe, and walk for "...in the joy of the LORD is my strength.."

    April 9, 2023 Galatians 2:20; Matthew 28:18-20;

    Acts 4:10-12
  • Josephus - 2 years ago
    Will Adam never receive salvation
  • Josephus - 2 years ago
    What or who was Lucifer?
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    You're welcome Gigi.

    I love the way you break down the trinity.

    God bless you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Richard.

    God bless you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Chris.

    God bless you.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    The Resurrection Day

    John 10:18 shows us that Christ had the power to give up and take life back again. Starting at the statement at His death "it is finished" ( John 19:30) the atonement was complete at the same moment. The comment from the fellow prisoner (the one who repented) at the cross recieved a response just prior to that event where Christ assured him "today you shall be with me in paradise" ( Luke 23:43). This shows that sheol which at the time was the abode of all the dead (see state of Lazarus vs the rich man in the parable of Luke 16:19-31). Jesus came to set the captives free ( Ephesians 4:7-10) also alluded to in several other passages that could also refer to those captive in sin still on earth. He preached to the spirits in prison ( 1 Peter 3:19) which were either the demons or Nephilim and their offspring which were in the abyss before their time; or all the lost. Those who were His own were set free; their souls went to heaven and many appeared after His Resurrection ( Matt. 27:52-53). Thus; after this time only wicked in the torment part of hell still exist down there.

    Christ; of course was the "first of the firstfruits" ( 1 Cor. 15:20). There will be the following afterwards; those who came out of their graves at that time as I stated above; then those at His appearing (i.e. Rapture); then those at His coming (2nd Coming). The firstfruits continue until the 144,000 which is a sort of gleaning of Israel ahead of the main harvest the countless multitude coming out of the Great Tribulation. ( Rev. 7:9).

    What is most sobering is that Christ still bears marks on His body ( Luke 24:39); apparently the only one who is resurrected with such scars reminding us of his earthly suffering and existance. Hence; God did not allow His holy one to remain in sheol or see decay ( Psalm 16:10). He was the perfect; unblemished Lamb of God who we shall forever worship and adore.

    Agape; Happy Resurrection Sunday.

    Rich P
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    DEUTERONOMY 6:4.

    Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

    There's only one God.

    John 10:30.

    John 14:7-9.

    If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

    Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

    Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, PHILIP? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

    1 Corinthians 15:28.

    And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

    This is after the Millennium reign, Then he will establish the eternal reign.

    Then he will return to his place where he was in the beginning,

    ( back to the God head)

    "That God may be all in all"

    Who raised Christ from the dead?

    John 10:17-18.

    Romans 8:11.

    Act 13:30.

    Answer; The triune God. "Elohm".

    If Jesus is the body of the Father but yet a separate God as one claims. That contradicts what is written in scripture.

    Ephesians 4:4-6.

    "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

    One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

    One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."

    We're servants and worshipers of that one God. Now and for ever.

    God will share his glory with no man.

    Isaiah 42:8.
  • GIGI - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dearemi, I will pray for Erin today.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 12 - 2 years ago
    Hi Lisanne,

    I hope you don't mind my reply.

    I watched the video you listed and like you said it is detailed, and he tied a lot to his charts with many dates and signs that would be difficult to verify. Is he correct? I cannot say, I will just point out a couple of things. When he used Virgo and Leo to describe the woman, he said the sun was at her head and the moon was at her feet and above her head were 12 stars using Leo and three planets coming up with the date of Sept. 23, 2017.

    The things he said happened Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem and Trump did that in December not on Sept. 23, Israel made Jerusalem its capital in 1980. The Rabbi said 10 jubilees until the Messiah, and he tied that to 2017 but Jesus has not returned, I could list more.

    In Rev. 12 The woman is clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and 12 stars was upon her head. You can find in Gen. 37:9 a good description of Israel. He called the woman Israel but did not explain why he thought the woman was Israel.

    I would only say beware of those setting dates when only God the Father knows, he did not come out to say a date but he was tiptoeing around it. We can put together signs and dates that are mesmerizing.

    I hope you take this as my opinion of this video and not of you and please study for your understanding.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Donna sorry i mis spelled Stephen's name....I was gonna post something completely different but when i sat down at my computer this is what i posted....The H.G. came upon me and this is what i typed....Try to understand....When i think about Calvary and the blood of the lamb i get so excited and i just cannot hide it...Alex....No pun intended.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you brother S. Spencer. You've presented some very good & worthy thoughts for all to consider. For the Christian to live a joyous & abundant life, must have at its root the knowledge that their relationship to the Father, His Son & His Holy Spirit are secure because of Who God is, what He has done, & the promises given in His Word.

    For a believer to remain unsure of his salvation, trying his best to obey ALL the 'commandments' (not just found in the Ten), would to my mind, be a very fearful position to be in. Unfortunately, I think people have focussed on Church teaching & Christian behavior to determine that the 'eternal security of believers' is impossible because of the possibility of them falling away & ultimately rejecting Christ. Rather than consider that God makes no mistakes, that 'all which God hath given His Son, he should lose none of them' ( John 6:37,39). They fail to take into account that the Spirit's sealing (as you quoted from 2 Corinthians & Ephesians), is not a haphazard work dependent on the whims & fancies of the Christian - it is a permanent work of security, giving the believer the joy & power to live this Christ-separated, Christ-centered life.

    And then the question that comes to mind: for those who are uncertain that their salvation is secure & whether they will stand confident at the Bema Seat Judgement, how much faith & obedience will it take to assure them of their acceptance? One may never be obedient enough or good enough if resting on their strivings to please the Lord. Does one then just give up & live carelessly (as the 'once saved always saved' are often categorized as)? As I mentioned elsewhere, I think that believers are lacking knowledge of the mighty working of the Holy Spirit in a believer's life, seeing spiritual failures all around, & therefore trying even harder to live the God-glorifying life in their strength. When the answer simply lies in 'living & walking in the Spirit' ( Galatians 5:16). Blessings.
  • 0817880641 - 2 years ago
    Concerning Creation

    My question is When did God create other human beings?

    During the 7 Day's circle or after the 7 Day's circle?

    Second question

    We all know of the how part of Adam and Eve and am far more interested in the how part of other people?

    Adam comes from a dust, Eve from the ribs of Adam, Jesus Christ was born from the virgin Mary.

    How did God create other human beings?
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Donna i know i'm late to answer your question but i just noticed it...And its a very good question....There was no man worthy to shed his blood for humanity but Jesus....Steven was a great man of God like so many others but they still carried that stain and spot of Adam...Christ Jesus was the only man that didn't carry the stain and spot of Adam....Thus he was the only man that cd shed his blood for the sins of the world (humanity)....Thats y John the bap. said behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...No other man cd die for the sins of the world....God wanted a New Covenant for the sins of the world but it was only Jesus that was good enough to die for the sins of the world..There were many great men of God but none of them cd be the lamb of God... They cd stone Steven and the Prophets and many others simply b/c their blood had no redemption value...When he was crucified at Calvary the shedding of his blood God wanted the world to see it...He fulfilled that New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:34...via his blood...And here is the meaning of that New Covenant in his blood..If i be lifted up ( his blood ) i will draw all men unto me....This NC is truly enormous....simply b/c its all inclusive...I will know them all from the least to the greatest...This Know them all is an intimacy that is gonna result in a birth of CHRIST IN US....Thats y he always refered to himself as the son of man...Mankind is gona have a baby b/c of his blood...Smite the shepard ( his blood ) and the sheep will be scattered then will i turn my hand to the LIL ONES...The babes and sucklings his offspring in us sinners...What he did at calvary made this whole world clean...When we were yet sinners Christ died for all of us sinners...Thats y God was so upset with Peter commanding water baptism for the remission of sins...Telling Peter 3 times what i have made clean ( Calvary) do not call common or unclean...All the unclean animals in that sheet was Humanity made clean by his blood.GBU
  • Tunney on Isaiah 13:10 - 2 years ago
    May we be faithful as we pray for our nation's leadership and their need for a relationship with our LORD JESUS CHRIST. 1 Timothy 2:9. Let us not faint or be weak; but may we go forward and reach the lost. May we be not weary of well doing, but be strong through HIS word and promises.

    We must be about the work of the LORD, making disciples as we called to do in Matthew 28: 18-20.

    As GOD is not willing that anyone should perish, 1 Peter 3:9, we must be encouraged and plant the seed, water where we can so that the LORD GOD will give the increase. 1 Corinthians 3:6

    The time is at hand where all saints are called to duty and reach out, pray up, and tell to all the salvation available in the gospel of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Romans 10: 9-12; Acts 4:10-12.

    GOD bless all on this platform and praise the LORD on this Resurrection Sunday, 2023. GOD to shine HIS face on all, and be gracious as we await HIS coming.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Gi-Gi Gbu...love ya....But all the explaining in the world cannot change the scriptures....Rev.11:15...The kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of our lord and his Christ and he shall reign for ever and ever...There is no scripture that can change this...And many more that tells us His kingdom is gona be right here on this earth...

    .....And you said that this earth is too sinful for his kingdom to be here ...But you are not realizing what Jesus said....In John 16:8 kjv..When he the Spirit of truth is come ( the H.G. the manchild the kingdom ) he will reprove the world of sin and judgement and righteousness....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all Nations....All Nations is indicative of this beautiful earth...

    .....There is nothing wrong with this beautiful Earth that the blood of the lamb did not fix...@ Calvary...A new heart and a new spirit is all mankind needs...As being born again of his incorruptible seed ... Isaiah 62 :22kjv ...As the New heaven and the New earth shall remain so shall your SEED and NAME remain...Which is the seed of the sower that is gona form Christ in us, The H.G. his name sake the Kingdom....Which is our New heart and New spirit...Gi-Gi Always remember God so loved the world ( humanity) that he gave his only begotten son....And the gift of the H.G....The Promise is that Kingdom as the Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace and righteousness in the H.G. Romans 14:17 kjv

    ....Gi-Gi stay away from other bibles like the NSAB, OR Concordences and Church comentaries They can make the bible say anything....Thats y there are a approx. 20,000 different Churches and religions on every corner....They all have their big Concordences but none of them believe the same....The scriptures plainly tells the Anointing you have received of him ...will teach you all things...You need no man teach you 1 st John 2:27 kjv only
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 12 - 2 years ago
    Thanks Lisanne for the heads up. I had a quick look at it (first few minutes) since each of his messages are over an hour long, & I can see from his interpretation of the Revelation that many here will turn it off quickly. But I shall go through his messages as time permits. Thanks again.


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