Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 211

Dear David, lifted you up in prayer about an hour ago. May you all be blessed in the Lord our God and Savior.

We Christians cannot solve this problem as the story of the crow is not part of the Bible . As this story is from the muslim faith you should probably do better asking them . It's not up to Christians to concern themselves in the matters of other beliefs . I would never ask a muslin to try and help me with my Bible studies .

Dear Manoocher,

I am not familiar with what the Quran says, but I will say that, as a Christian believer, I stick with what God has revealed in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible as to what is true and what God wants us to know concerning ancient history and spiritual matters. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the God's revelation to mankind. He is the one promised in Genesis 3:15 to Adam and Eve that this person will be triumph over the evil one and restore fellowship with God for mankind. Jesus is the "Seed" promised to Abraham through Isaac (not Ishmael) who will bless all nations and in whom all the promises of God to Abraham are fulfilled.

Read Galatians 3:6-17 and Galatians 3:22-29. Those who believe the gospel of Jesus (Read the book of Romans), not Muhammed's Quran, and then one places their faith in Jesus Christ (not Allah) will be saved and reconciled to God, will receive eternal life because such a believer is in union with Jesus Christ and thus also with the Father, by the working of the Holy Spirit within this believer. This is the one and only way to have salvation from sin, death, hell, and the evil one.

I urge you to be reconciled to God in Christ if you do not already believe in Him. I recommend that you stick with reading only the Bible for Spiritual truth. May you be brought to Christ by the Father and place your faith solely in the God of the Bible, forsaking Allah, Mohammed, and the Quran or any other non-Christian religious writings.

Hi. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to ask the following question.

In Genesis 4-1-16 vi read the history av Abel and Cain. In the Quran (Q5;27-32) vi read the same story, where Muhammad at the end of the story adds the incident that Allah sent a crow scratching the ground to show Cain how to hide his brother's corpse. But this part of the story is not in Genesis.

How Muhammad came on this idea has been a big controversy between two groups: On the one hand scholars like Tisdal, Shorosh, Masoud Massihiyyen (Answeringislam) and many others claim that this part cab be read in the "Jewish book of myths and fables" which was written by "Pirke Rabbi Eliezer". But this book was written much later after Muhammad died, claims the first group. How can vi solve this problem.

Best regard, Almassian

Thank you dear brother and thank you all for your kindness .

Fuji, I pray that your Mom will heal from her rib. God is great and He does heal. I know God here's our prayers.

May God bless you and you're family.

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the true gospel that saves today

Prayers please for my mom Anita , she had a fall yesterday and broke a rib . She discharged herself from hospital as she is terrified of catching Covid because she has COPD so she won't stay in hospital . I'm sitting in my recently deceased dads bedroom listening to my mom groan in pain . Hopefully tomorrow I can convince her to go into respite care for a few days until she gets her strength back and the pain is more bearable for her , it's going to be a long night .

May God bless every creature that is suffering physical pain , may God bless us with His Kingdom on Earth soon , we all need healing physical and spiritual , only God can save us . He will . May it be soon .

S Spencer,

Thanks for enlightening me and for the warm welcome to the site. God bless you!

Fuji, thank you so much to remind us who we are. We are Christians in this world with our sinful bodies until we get a body fashioned like Jesus Christ. Daily cleansing of the spirit and body is important for growing in grace. I am not ashamed of being a Christian in Christ Jesus.

May we all continue to pray for our Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus for love and peace.

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 The Gospel

Good evening Chris,

I went to "Are All Saved" because of the groups of Scriptures that speak to God desiring all to come to salvation. These verses seem to imply that this is God's ultimate will or sovereign decree, which would mean that all humans are saved (universalism). Knowing that Scripture speaks of many going the "wide way" that leads to destruction and that all who are not written in the Book of Life will be judged and enter the Lake of Fire forever, these thoughts made me seek deeper understanding of this topic. I did find some good explanations and am considering each of them against Scripture. Sometimes, paradoxes are revealed in Scripture. And this topic may be one of those or the way it has been interpreted literally but superficially may bring us to err in thinking. May the Lord bless us with right understanding as we grow in grace and knowledge of God, our Father, Jesus, God our Savior, and the Holy Spirit, our Life-giving God, all whom are unified One whom we worship.

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I'll be getting back to posting on this topic in a day or two. Please record your questions for me as you see fit and then present them to me at the appropriate time. Even more so, I appreciate anyone who is willing to present a cohesive explanation of their soteriology as I am doing here. It is such an important aspect of our faith and doctrine and thus deserves a serious, thoughtful, and Scripture based treatment.

Thanks GiGi for this further submission on "Will all be saved?". That was very interesting to read, even as you shared from the writings of those men. There was much I could agree with, and of course, some things that could be debated.

But if I was to narrow down onto one particular 'stand-out' for me from those ten parts, it would be Romans 9:14-23 (as given). Whereas I would have actually referenced the whole subject matter given in Romans 9:1-24: where the apostle was speaking about Israel, examples from their history, God's Intervention, an imagined question proffered, & finally to Gentiles who would also be recipients of God's Mercy & riches. Blessings.

Amen KidinChrist!

God bless you and by the way, Welcome to the site!

Thanks again Brother Jesse.

Ephesians is a treasure!

"There is not a relationship between two people, but between three, you, me, and the Lord. I HAVE TO LINE UP WITH THE LORD FOR A RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU!"

Very well put Brother Jesse.

God bless you and all that you are doing!

Bronco wildtrak

You are so welcome to join us in such prayers. We never know how God will work in the lives of anyone let alone those He has given a position of governing. Let's not underestimate Him in such things, but instead believe that "with man, things are impossible, but with God all things are possible" (paraphrased, of course). We can believe for God to work in ways that bring him honor and glory as well as help those who call upon Him and even those that do not (yet)!

John chapter 17 verse 16 . Jesus says this about his disciples , can we really say this about ourselves ? Let's look at ourselves honestly . Just how much are we like everyone else in this world ? How many of the things that atheists are focused on or that people of other beliefs are interested in and talking about , are we also getting ourselves embroiled in ? If we are truly not of this world then those that are of this world should be able to recognise that we ( Christians ) are different . We are not like them , even if they disdain us for our non conformity we shouldn't be upset about that , rather be glad that we are so unlike them that they've actually noticed , that's a good thing ! Our light ( which is Christ ) should be shinning bright and dazzling those around us .

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 10

The thrust of what Paul is getting across in 1 Timothy 2:4 is that we should never forsake praying for someone because they belong to a certain class, group, or culture. No "tribe" is too far from God that He cannot save them, so pray with all diligence for God to move His sovereign hand and save."

And finally, I include this excerpt from John Piper:

If "all people" refers to every person without exception, then universalism is our conclusion only if God's desire to save is absolute. But the Lord desires one thing more than the salvation of all - His glory ( Isa. 48:11). In one sense, God can truly want all who have ever lived to be saved; however, this desire always defers to His will to glorify Himself, the will in view when the Bible says His will is always done. The Lord is glorified when sin is punished in hell, and so God's supreme desire is met even when people are not redeemed.

At this point, I will take this up in a day or two to give time for readers to consider this question for themselves. Then I will continue with how I understand this topic.

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 9

The subtext of the entire book of Romans is the division that is occurring in the church between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians. It takes a vision from heaven with God coercing Peter to be okay with entering into a Gentile household and sharing the gospel with Cornelius in Acts 10 (see also Acts 6; Gal 3:28; Eph 2:11-22).

For centuries and centuries, Jewish people were told that their people, children of Abraham, were God's chosen people. And if anyone wanted to enter into a saving relationship with Yahweh, they had to first become Jewish. Further, there was a deep animosity that ran between Jews and Gentiles in the first century. It would have been similar to the way a Southerner would have viewed a Northerner shortly after the Civil War. There was deep distrust and anger, not to mention a wide cultural distance between the two groups.

Now, after the death, burial, and resurrection of the Messiah, Jesus, it didn't matter whether you were Jewish, Greek, Scythian, or slave ( Col 3:11). All that mattered was your relationship with Jesus, and Jesus was open and available to any and all cultures, ethnicities, and tribes.

Therefore, when Paul is explaining that God desires "all people" to be saved he is not referring to all people without exception (every individual), but to all people without distinction (every kind) to be saved. Don't think that you shouldn't pray for those emperors or governors ( 1 Tim 2:2) just because they are Roman or Greek-pray for all people; God desires people from every tribe, tongue, and nation to be gathered around His throne ( Rev 5:9-10).

In Conclusion

I personally find the "all persons without distinction" argument to be more satisfactory than the "two wills of God" interpretation in 1 Timothy 2:4. I do affirm classic doctrine of the two wills of God, I just don't think that is the main point Paul is trying to make here in 1 Timothy.

See Pt.. 10

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 8

John Piper explains:

"The difference between Calvinists and Arminians lies not in whether there are two wills in God, but in what they say this higher commitment is. What does God will more than saving all?

The answer given by Arminians is that human self-determination and the possible resulting love relationship with God are more valuable than saving all people by sovereign, efficacious grace. The answer given by Calvinists is that the greater value is the manifestation of the full range of God's glory in wrath and mercy ( Romans 9:22-23) and the humbling of man so that he enjoys giving all credit to God for his salvation ( 1 Corinthians 1:29)."

Therefore this perspective would say that God desires all to be saved but this "desire" is fundamentally different than what God ultimately determines or decrees to happen.

(2) All Persons Without Distinction. This perspective views that when Paul explains that God desires "all people" to be saved he is not referring to all persons without exception, but to all persons without distinction. In other words, Paul is not referring to God's desire for all individuals who have ever lived, but to all kinds of people. God is not only the savior of Jewish people, but of non-Jewish people as well.

After explaining that we should pray for "all people" because God desires "all people" to be saved because Jesus gave himself as a ransom for "all people," Paul concludes with this: "For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth," 1 Tim 2:7. Why does Paul need to insert that little parenthetical oath (I swear I'm not making this up!). Likely because so few of the early Christians believed that people who were not Jewish could actually be saved.

In Acts 15, there has to be an entire church council held to figure out whether or not its okay for Gentiles to become Christians.

See Pt. 9

S Spencer,

Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.

1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter

1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27

God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).

God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:

"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.

-Peace and blessings

Chris,

Thanks for the insightful input. In conclusion, God love for mankind is absolutely immeasurable.

1st precept:"Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into." 1 Peter

1:12. 2nd precept: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Genesis 1:27

God loves all his creation of mankind, but for those with a reprobate mind and chose to live in sin intentionally and refuses to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and never will, (worker of iniquity) God hates... unless they sincerely turn from evil and try to live a life to follow Christ according to the biblical texts "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Psalms 51:10).

God love is present regardless, because God is love, but His love for mankind is welcomed with open arms if we choose Him:

"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." John 4:7-9.

-Peace and blessings

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 7

There are two basic Reformed interpretations of this verse (and other verses similar to it):

(1) The Two Wills of God. This is what is sometimes referred to as God's "antecedent" and "consequent" will (Thomas Aquinas) or God's "secret" and "revealed" will (Jonathan Edwards). A contemporary proponent of this perspective would be John Piper who refers to the "will of decree" and "will of command." This interpretation would see a difference between what God desires to happen and what He ultimately decrees to happen. God desires all to be saved, but He does not ultimately decree that all are saved. John Piper explains, "God wills not to save all, even though he is willing to save all." A helpful illustration would be Ezekiel 18:23, "Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" God takes no delight in the death of the wicked-He does not enjoy it. And yet, the wicked still perish. God desires something (the wicked not perishing) that does not ultimately happen. Why would God desire something but not get it? Why would He desire to save all, but not allow all to be saved? Universalists reply, "If God desires all to be saved then all must be saved." Open Theists reply, "God may desire all to be saved, yet all aren't saved because God can't save all." Arminians and Calvinists (Reformed) repudiate both of those replies.

Both Calvinists and Arminians agree that the problem does not lay in God's inability nor do they ignore the Bible's teaching of the reality of hell. Offering an alternative for why God does not save all, Piper explains, "because there is something else that [God] wills more, which would be lost if he exerted his sovereign power to save all." Believe it or not, both Arminians and Calvinists affirm this-the two wills of God. They simply disagree on what God's higher commitment is that prevents all persons from being saved.

See Pt. 8

WILL ALLL BE SAVED?

Pt. 6

3.Arminianism. This is a Christian perspective that understands that God knows the future and is in control, yet for God to have an authentic relationship with us He cannot impinge upon our choices-our "free-will" must be preserved. So, God desires all people to be saved, yet not everyone is saved because not all choose to be saved. (The name "Arminianism" comes from Jacob Arminius, a Dutch theologian who rebelled against the standard teaching of the church back in the late 16th century.)

4.Augustinian/Reformed. This is a Christian perspective that would understand that an individual's salvation is entirely dependent on the Lord. Our decisions and choices are real and we are held accountable for them, yet apart from the Lord's intervening work, none of us would choose God, thus it is God's prior choice of us that determines our response.

The reason that "all" are not saved is because God has not determined that "all" will be saved. (The name "Reformed" comes from the Protestant Reformation which occurred in the early 16th century, especially the tradition that followed John Calvin's teaching. "Augustinian" comes from the 5th century church father, Augustine of Hippo, who expounded this classic position clearly in his writings.)

A Reformed Understanding of 1 Timothy 2:4

Between the two Christian options given to us, it would seem like the Reformed tradition has the biggest problem with making sense of this verse. In fact, 1 Timothy 2:4 is a traditional proof-text that Arminians will typically run to when trying to discredit Reformed theology. So, how can those of the Reformed tradition make sense of this verse? If the Reformed believe that not all are saved because God has not elected all to be saved (see Rom 9:14-23), then how does 1 Timothy 2:4 make any sense at all? Doesn't the passage plainly say that God "desires all people to be saved"?

See Pt. 7

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 5

And this excert:

"Does God Desire All to be Saved?

September 2, 2022 Marc Sims

First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. - 1 Tim 2:1-7

What does Paul mean in verse 4 that God "desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth"? Or, in verse 6, that Jesus "gave himself as a ransom for all"?

Many a Christian over the years has been puzzled by these passages. If God desires all people to be saved, then why aren't all people saved? There have been four basic interpretive traditions of this passage:

1.Universalism. This is a heretical (non-Christian) perspective that ignores passages of Scripture that talk about the reality of Hell, judgment, or passages that teach about conscious faith in Jesus Christ being a prerequisite for salvation. So, the universalist assumes, God desires all people to be saved, therefore all are saved.

2.Open Theism. This is another heretical perspective that assumes that God does not know, nor determine, the future. Open Theists claim that for God to have an authentic relationship with us, He cannot know the future. God desires all people to be saved, but He can't do anything about it because He is dependent upon us to make those choices.

See Pt. 6

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 4

Even though it was God's will for Jesus to suffer and die, accountability still fell on those responsible for His death, as highlighted in ( Mark 14:21).

God's dispositional will reflects His attitude and what pleases or displeases Him. For instance, ( 1 Timothy 2:4) reveals God's desire for all to be saved and know the truth. This illustrates God's disposition towards the lost, emphasizing His desire for their salvation. Despite God's universal desire for salvation, not everyone chooses to accept it.

There is a distinction between God's dispositional will and His sovereign will.

In essence, the will of God comprises three elements: 1) God's sovereign will is manifested in His unchangeable decrees. He decreed that there be light, and there was light. , ( Genesis 1:3)-an illustration of His efficacious decree.



He permitted Satan to afflict Job And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. , ( Job 1:12)-an instance of His permissive decree. 2) God's revealed will is found in His precepts, provided to us so that we may live in holiness. We have the capacity (but not the right) to violate these commands. 3) God's dispositional will is His attitude. Sometimes, God ordains something that does not bring Him pleasure, such as the death of the wicked as seen in Ezekiel 33:11."

See Pt. 5

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 3

Because God is sovereign, He must at the very least, God "permits" all events and happenings. Within God's sovereign will, He chooses to allow many things to occur that do not bring Him pleasure. Referring again to the example of Joseph and his brothers, God decided, through an act of His decretive will, to permit the kidnapping and enslavement of Joseph. God's permissive will allowed the sins of Joseph's brothers to bring about a greater good (see Genesis 50:20). Despite every instance of mistreatment towards Joseph, God had the power to intervene, but He "allowed" the evil to take place, and in that limited sense, He sovereignly "willed" it to happen.

God's revealed or preceptive will is not concealed from us. This aspect of God's will encompasses what God has chosen to disclose to us in the Bible-His precepts are clearly stated. "He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God" ( Micah 6:8).

The preceptive will of God is what He desires us to do (or not do). For instance, we understand that it is God's will for us to speak the truth in love ( Ephesians 4:15), to repent, and turn to God ( Acts 3:19). It is God's revealed will that we refrain from committing adultery.

Obeying God's revealed will is crucial. As stated in ( 1 Corinthians 6:18), we should avoid sexual immorality. Similarly, ( Ephesians 5:18) advises against drunkenness. God's revealed will, as mentioned in ( Psalm 19:7), serves to guide and enlighten us.

We are bound to follow God's revealed or preceptive will, although we retain the ability to disobey. Adam and Eve, for instance, were instructed to be fruitful, tend the garden, and avoid a specific tree ( Genesis 1-2). Regrettably, they defied God's instructions ( Genesis 3) and faced the consequences of their actions. We cannot justify our sins by claiming they fulfill God's sovereign will.

See Pt. 4

WILL ALL BE SAVED?

Pt. 2

EXCERPT

"What is the difference between God's sovereign will and God's revealed will?

21 de July de 2024

Response

Human will is quite simple: when we desire something to occur, we "will" it to happen; when we take action, we demonstrate our "will" in the situation. God's will is more intricate. Theologians identify three distinct aspects of God's will in the Bible: His sovereign (decretive) will, His revealed (preceptive) will, and His dispositional will.

God's sovereign or decretive will is also known as His "hidden" will. It is "sovereign" because it reveals God as the Supreme ruler of the universe who ordains all events. It is "decretive" as it involves God's decrees. It is "hidden" because we often remain unaware of this aspect of God's will until His decrees come to pass. Nothing occurs outside of God's sovereign will.

For instance, it was God's sovereign will for Joseph to be taken to Egypt, endure imprisonment in Pharaoh's dungeon, interpret the king's dreams, ultimately rescue his people from famine, and receive honor from all ( Genesis 37-50). Initially, Joseph and his brothers were unaware of God's will in these circumstances, but at each stage, God's plan became clearer.

When Ephesians 1:11 portrays God as the one "who works all things according to the counsel of His will," it refers to God's sovereign or decretive will. God Himself affirms the certainty of His sovereign will in Isaiah 46:10: "My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please."

Due to God's sovereignty, His will cannot be thwarted The sovereign or decretive will of God can be categorized into His efficacious will and His permissive will. This distinction is necessary because God does not directly cause everything to occur. Some of His decrees are efficacious (directly contributing to the fulfillment of God's desire), while others are permissive (allowing for an indirect fulfillment of God's desire).

See Pt.3

BUT.. Scripture says that God desires all people to be saved.

While 1 Tim. 2 1-8 and 2 Peter 3:9 say that God desires all people to be saved, it does not say that He decrees it to be so. He is compassionate towards His creatures and does shed His goodness upon creation every day with the reliability of day turning to night to day again, rain in season, multiplication of animals to sustain us, and the yearly regrowth of vegetation for our diet as well. He sometimes spares unregenerate people from disasters and yet allows regenerate people to perish or suffer much loss. He allows both unregenerate and regenerate people to prosper and become rich and also allows both to be impoverished. But the Bible never says that all humans will be saved. It clearly teaches that only the elect will be saved.

I find this excerpt from the site: bibliotodo has a very good explanation for this question. Here is presented the prevalent interpretations to this question. I think it is only fair to present the various sides of this paradox in Scripture. Then is an Excerpt from Marc Sim's blog who explains with a few additional points.

I encourage each person to give this serious thoughtful prayer, including myself, before deciding on why all are not saved if God desires it to be so.

GiGi, I will pray with you on your written statement for Trump and our government . We all need God to cleanse the house and to make it better. I hope and pray that others will come on board and pray .

Only if more people knew the word ?

John 1:1-4

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the resurrection of Jesus Christ

Dear America Needs Repentance,

Scripture instructs us to pray for those who are appointed to govern, so I do so whomever is in that position. I am praying for President Trump in these times. May God direct His path, leading him to govern well, in justice, mercy, and wisdom. I pray for the U.S.A. and its people, that God will bring many to repentance and faith, that God will turn the tide of what has done so much harm to our country and citizens, and that He will replace evil policies and restore what are good policies. May our government act with integrity and humility, seeking the true good of the citizens living here, working lawfully and honestly according to the constitution and code of law in place, removing laws that are corrupt, and initiating legislation that upholds our freedoms and allows citizens to prosper from the hard work one does daily. I pray that lawlessness is no longer rewarded as well as sloth, that those who can work will be incentivized to work instead of taking welfare, may those who are in true need of assistance be given what they need. May God have mercy on our country and bless us as He has in the past since start. It is my hope that many believers in our country will set themselves to pray and live up to the calling of God in their lives to be imitators of Christ and live godly lives in a wicked world.

Hi KidinChrist.

I concur with Brother Chris, salvation is offered to anyone regardless of their present position!

In 1 Timothy 1:15 Paul says he was the chef of sinners. Jesus asked Paul in Acts 9:4 "why persecutest thou me? However Paul found grace. Paul was an instrument preserved before the foundation of the world by the foreknowledge of God.

When we consider the quote in Psalms 5:5

"thou hatest all workers of iniquity"

I believe that is those who are perhaps vessels of wrath who refuse the truth and deliberately going against God's will until the end with no repentance. God uses his foreknowledge to determine this as well.

Blessings.